Meh.

Just out of curiosity how much did you lose?

I mean it's kind of hard for me to sympathize since I don't lose that many med clones, and when I do my first reaction is to buy a new one before I even check my own losses... I thought spending those few seconds zoomed in on your broken capsule had that effect on everybody.

So i'm guessing you live alone or have beaten the kids hard enough that they never go in and look at your game, so there's no way you'd ever lose a clone without knowing..

New suggestion to dev team.
Modify the Training Queue so that it flashes constantly RED when a characters Skill Points are not supported by a clone with sufficient capacity.

Why do people assume at all times that if they do it, everyone that doesn't is a moron? Look if you want to troll something so you can big note your self fine, but do it somewhere else, this maybe a post that seems lame to you but it does affect people and is warranted..

Oh, please. If you have kids and you don't have a keyboard lock command macroed in, you get what you get.

I have a simply question for you. Why be a **** and oppose something that helps people when it does nothing what so ever against you?

Sharing your account is banable ... even 'accidentally' with the kids

So i'm guessing you live alone or have beaten the kids hard enough that they never go in and look at your game, so there's no way you'd ever lose a clone without knowing..

What's more important, having warnings in place to protect you from Accidentally losing your shiny ship, or having something in place to protect your ability to FLY your shiny ship

What's more important, having warnings in place to protect you from Accidentally losing your shiny ship, or having something in place to protect your ability to FLY your shiny ship

So you lost level 5 in something, and you sucked it up and you retrained your skill, OK so tell me you didn't feel sick to the pit of your stomach when you did lose it,

now tell me you didn't ask your self why there's no safety to protect your skills...

So what's the point in objecting to something that will prevent that overwhelming feeling of disgust to other people? What's wrong with doing something simple that helps other people.

I lost 1.3m sp between 2 characters that I thought were up to date in there clones. turns out they weren't. Point isn't that I lost them or overlooked the clones, point is that AFTER overlooking them, they stayed overlooked because something so important doesn't have any warnings associated with it that are easily noticed..

So i'm guessing you live alone or have beaten the kids hard enough that they never go in and look at your game, so there's no way you'd ever lose a clone without knowing..

Its kind of amazing, if I was trying to get the developers to make it so you could light you bum on fire and stick it out a airlock in jita, you lot would be all in favour of it and probably telling the everyone I should be a world leader, but I pipe up and try and do something that makes sense and helps to protect the most important asset in the game, all you can do is tell me I'm crazy and should suck it up and stop whining and let everyone else do the same..
So you lost level 5 in something, and you sucked it up and you retrained your skill, OK so tell me you didn't feel sick to the pit of your stomach when you did lose it, now tell me you didn't ask your self why there's no safety to protect your skills...

OH goody, now tell us all honestly that you didn't...

So what's the point in objecting to something that will prevent that overwhelming feeling of disgust to other people? What's wrong with doing something simple that helps other people.

Its kind of amazing, if I was trying to get the developers to make it so you could light you bum on fire and stick it out a airlock in jita, you lot would be all in favour of it and probably telling the everyone I should be a world leader, but I pipe up and try and do something that makes sense and helps to protect the most important asset in the game, all you can do is tell me I'm crazy and should suck it up and stop whining and let everyone else do the same..
So you lost level 5 in something, and you sucked it up and you retrained your skill, OK so tell me you didn't feel sick to the pit of your stomach when you did lose it, now tell me you didn't ask your self why there's no safety to protect your skills...

OH goody, now tell us all honestly that you didn't...

So what's the point in objecting to something that will prevent that overwhelming feeling of disgust to other people? What's wrong with doing something simple that helps other people.

I lost 1.3m sp between 2 characters that I thought were up to date in there clones. turns out they weren't. Point isn't that I lost them or overlooked the clones, point is that AFTER overlooking them, they stayed overlooked because something so important doesn't have any warnings associated with it that are easily noticed..

So i'm guessing you live alone or have beaten the kids hard enough that they never go in and look at your game, so there's no way you'd ever lose a clone without knowing..

EVEMon already nags you incessantly if the clone for one of your toons is out of date. And honestly, who doesn't use EVEMon already anyway? If you aren't for some reason, start.

Strange, has nobody called this a 'sneak remove clone insurance' attempt and a redundant thread yet ? Really weird and slow day I guess. Next step is 'never lose implants' thread, can't wait for that one.

Because simple mistakes happen to everyone, where does it say that if your a in game you have to be one here in the forums?

Snip, Please refrain from profanities - ISD Atomic Dove

Ive lost dread 5 and bs 5 to this and its just human error.. u should remember urself to up it and keep checking if u dont its ur own problem..

OK so tell me you didn't feel sick to the pit of your stomach when you did lose it, now tell me you didn't ask your self why there's no safety to protect your skills...

OH goody, now tell us all honestly that you didn't...

So what's the point in objecting to something that will prevent that overwhelming feeling of disgust to other people? What's wrong with doing something simple that helps other people.

Here is what has actually happened:
1) Elitist forum bros enter the thread and criticize the OP :because:
2) Other forum bros come in, and follow such opinion because they cannot think for themselves.
3) Rare forum bro that might agree with the OP won't speak up because he doesn't want to look uncool.

It sounds childish and that is quite honestly my point: You guys are immature in your thinking.

Sharing your account is banable ... even 'accidentally' with the kids

well, seems there's been some thought into this, and the majority of the objections aren't for any good reason other than, I lost my skill points and had to learn , others should have to do it also... Pretty juvenile to be honest, but people seem to be starting to see past it, also liked Anthar Thebess' idea about buying back lost skill points, CCP could have it so a corpse that didn't have enough upgrade to store all the skill points would show differently to others and be ransonable, if the player can get the corpse back and get it to a medical facility then experts could recover the skill points for a fee. But that's another topic I guess and if I mix them I'm sure some of the readers will get quite hysterical and try to have the entire thread removed..

well, seems there's been some thought into this, and the majority of the objections aren't for any good reason other than, I lost my skill points and had to learn , others should have to do it also... Pretty juvenile to be honest

Meh.

Just out of curiosity how much did you lose?

I mean it's kind of hard for me to sympathize since I don't lose that many med clones, and when I do my first reaction is to buy a new one before I even check my own losses... I thought spending those few seconds zoomed in on your broken capsule had that effect on everybody.

I like how people don't see an issue with a game so badly done that external utilities are an outright necessity.

Technically, if they're under 18 (13?) then you can share with them all day, and it's not bannable; as they're unable to legally accept the EULA / TOS.


However, agree that OP should've locked the computer or logged out if going AFK with kids in the house (assuming "Kids" was the cause in the first place).

If "Kids" wasn't the cause, then OP should probably lock the Jack & Jim up before logging in (also, Glenlivet, Macallan, $other_distillery, depending on tastes)

Couple of problems with your post, there. No matter how old the other person is, it's YOU who agreed not to share your account. And just because the person you share it with couldn't sign a contract, doesn't make them not "people" for the purposes of the TOS, which you would still be in violation of. Is anybody going to ban you for letting your kid play a toon on your account? I doubt it. But your "technically" explanation is flat wrong.

Also, a License Agreement operates under different laws than a normal contract, although a license can be part of a contract. If minors couldn't be held to TOS or EULA's, then nobody could get banned from any website for anything as a minor, and you go and get your kid brother to swear on club penguin and see how that goes for you.

You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account.

How does this ****** thread have 4 pages....?

I lost 1.3m sp between 2 characters that I thought were up to date in there clones. turns out they weren't. Point isn't that I lost them or overlooked the clones, point is that AFTER overlooking them, they stayed overlooked because something so important doesn't have any warnings associated with it that are easily noticed..

Go back to WoW or Hello Kitty Online, or where ever the hell it was you came here from that lets you die endlessly and repeatedly without any penalty. I've lost SP due to low med clone once. My loss of 100k SP was enough to make me pretty rabid about checking my clones. I bet you will be as well, now. Learn from your loss and move on.

No sympathy here.

I like how people qualify things that make your life easier as "neccesities".

Granted the EULA states it as "Made on behalf of" and not "shared with" ... but seeing as it's "your account that you made so your kid could play" ... it's still "Shared" (though not in the "You can play at X time, and I'll play at Y time" sense)

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Why do people assume at all times that if they do it, everyone that doesn't is a moron? Look if you want to troll something so you can big note your self fine, but do it somewhere else, this maybe a post that seems lame to you but it does affect people and is warranted..

I think you should never lose SPs for any reason.

I would like to see the end to clone upgrading altogether and have them institute a new ISK sink to take its place like requiring all ships to use fuel (except noobie ships and perhaps those types of ships a noobies would need to get started in EVE).

1. if you died you would still lose implants so as to not harm that industry.

2. This adds player based industry (making fuel) while removing NPC industry (upgrading clones).

I leave "types of ships noobies would need", undefined because it would take experimentation to find the proper classifications of ships to add to the list.