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Pine Marten
Viziam
Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:30:00 -
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It was missions for me. They were all new to me and it was generally fun. Now it feels like a job just 2 make isk. Not that much at that. Now 2 make isk in empire, you have 2 do incursions. That's decent isk, but those are even more boring that mission's. At least your missions change. We need to eliminate concord and just make all space 0.0. Missions pay 20x as much.
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Alexei Stryker
Steiners Erben
Die Konkurrenz
42
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:32:00 -
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The girls in Eve. They are pretty |
Zimmy Zeta
Lisa Needs Braces.
43195
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:33:00 -
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http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-110069-1270913064.jpg
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19782
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:43:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:It was missions for me. They were all new to me and it was generally fun. Now it feels like a job just 2 make isk. Not that much at that. Now 2 make isk in empire, you have 2 do incursions. That's decent isk, but those are even more boring that mission's. At least your missions change. We need to eliminate concord and just make all space 0.0. Missions pay 20x as much.
It's to not 2, you saved yourself 3 whole key presses...
Content wise your premise is flawed, missions are fine for making isk, and they don't require blingy pimpmobiles to do it. I dare say you don't need them to incursions either they seem to be the preferred ships when trying to get into an incursion fleet.
TL;DR, you're full of it
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Prince of Sunset
Smokin Aces.
0
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:44:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:It was missions for me. They were all new to me and it was generally fun. Now it feels like a job just 2 make isk. Not that much at that. Now 2 make isk in empire, you have 2 do incursions. That's decent isk, but those are even more boring that mission's. At least your missions change. We need to eliminate concord and just make all space 0.0. Missions pay 20x as much.
Talk about a post from left field....
You are finding out one of the solid truths of EVE. Anything that doesn't involve interacting with people sucks, because EVE isn't the kind of game that entertains you, it's the kind of game that simply gives you a place to find entertainment or yourself.
I hear of solo pve players talking about boredom all the time. I never hear that same thing from people who do various forms of pvp and other means of screwing around with others talk of boredom. The same with incursions, the actual gameplay itself is boring because it's pve and pve is boring in every game but at least you have people to koke around with on voice comms. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4136
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:45:00 -
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I always loved the depth of its industry.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15724
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:47:00 -
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Asks about the first thing you loved in game.. then uses thread to whine about missions.
*checks forum
Yep.. General Discussion.
Carry on.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:48:00 -
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Jukebox. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
701
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:50:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:Now 2 make isk in empire, you have 2 do incursions.
If you really think this is true - you're doing EvE wrong.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6415
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:52:00 -
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The freedom to do what I like
Including calling BS on this thread
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Zinther Del'Ara
Viziam
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:55:00 -
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Mining and the music. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1401
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:56:00 -
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Space Pirates RPG!!!  |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies
The Unthinkables
2637
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:56:00 -
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The first thing I loved about the game were the ship designs. Eve is,hands down, a damned beautiful game.
Surprisingly though, it's the people that keep me playing Eve. I must be a masochist.
MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it.
The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3352
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:57:00 -
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My bff 4 lyfe
Oh god. |
Korsiri
Epilogue Enterprises
110
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:57:00 -
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Sitting in my first Megathron... felt so badass. And, later, diving into a wormhole for the first time. |
Felicity Love
2049
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:59:00 -
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Back in the day, it was choosing your skills as part of that first character generation.
Then doing the Tutorials for two days...
It really cut down on the ADD types and instant gratification kids... EVE was so much better, because it was a somewhat different community of players, before the "Great Dumbing Down" began and all the spoonfeeding was added to attract a wider variety of players.
Good times... and the JUKEBOX was awesome ! ! ! ! ! !
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
1057
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:02:00 -
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That constant feeling that I could be doing something useful with my time other than station spinning and running numbers (no I'm not referring to RL....mostly) |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5640
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:15:00 -
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Title Question wrote:What is the first thing you loved about the game?
How whiny and pedantic the people that post in GD are. What a gold mine of enjoyment it is.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Serene Repose
1446
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:17:00 -
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I don't love anything about the game. It's a game. If you think you love something about the game, you really either need to A.) Learn the actual definition of the word "love", B.) Really...go OUTSIDE. MEET SOMEONE. GET A DOG, or C.) All of the above.
Love about EVE. I enjoy it. I love my satin shoes.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
101
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:20:00 -
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I was coming from UO Siege Perilous so it was the free for all PvP. |
Saera Blutrausch
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:20:00 -
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First thing i loved was the complexity of everything. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6419
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:25:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I don't love anything about the game. It's a game. If you think you love something about the game, you really either need to A.) Learn the actual definition of the word "love", B.) Really...go OUTSIDE. MEET SOMEONE. GET A DOG, or C.) All of the above.
Love about EVE. I enjoy it. I love my satin shoes.
I don't love anything about shoes. They are shoes. If you think you love something about shoes, you really either need to A.) Learn the actual definition of the word "love", B.) Really...go OUTSIDE. MEET SOMEONE. GET A DOG, or C.) All of the above.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I ain't going outside and other people are filth, and dogs are inbred
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Angelica Everstar
29
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:28:00 -
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For me it was the player run markets. PvP of the mind 
Any typos, spelling errors and bad grammer found, are free and yours to keep
Current bond : PFA05 500b / Total 825b |
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
85
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:03:00 -
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My Bantam. Made my first million in one evening in that.
Dam did I feel rich. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
22647
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:06:00 -
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the fact that it could download and install an update from within the client without no stinkin' launcher.
those were the days... 
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Chaotic Past
Periphery Bound
2
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:16:00 -
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Below the Asteroids on command and repeat...enough said
https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/eve-online-below-the-asteroids |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
765
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:37:00 -
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The skill system interested me, the one server interested me, the open world concept interested me, what hooked me was mining.
In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Repeat 0ffenders
266
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:43:00 -
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I like how the topic lasted two sentences.
I loved fleeting up with a few other people. If CCP scaled the difficulty and benefit of running missions in groups, it'd better encourage that gameplay. Maybe fleetmates could participate for a percentage of the overall rewards/bounties.
(Keeping with the original post's structure)
The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
136
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:44:00 -
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It used to be the complexity of the game but they have since nerfed that so now I feel like a bot.... I need a code agent to just put me outa my misery. |
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
31
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:02:00 -
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Parking my teenyweeny Velator next to this guys megathron in an asteroidbelt (mega was a nice mingingboat before barges came along)
when 100 mill was actually a lot of iskies... Gawd now i feel old again  |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
581
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:47:00 -
[31] - Quote
Space Disco!
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what."
--áAaron Birch |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
586
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Posted - 2014.07.24 18:56:00 -
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Mining, lol
*hangs head in shame* |
Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
52
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:13:00 -
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Exploration, now it's a mix of that and solo PvP.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Beta Maoye
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:14:00 -
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The feeling that I was in space and flying between space stations light years apart. |
flakeys
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
2349
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:21:00 -
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Your ship exploding and then .... gone .
That was SO awsome .... well after i got control of my emotions  .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
74
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:22:00 -
[36] - Quote
When I first undocked and saw that beautiful Gallente nebula. |
Samuel Triptee
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
48
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Posted - 2014.07.24 20:32:00 -
[37] - Quote
The visuals
The audios
The fact that after an hour I still had absolutely no idea what to do.
Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today? |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation
DemSal Unlimited
1316
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Posted - 2014.07.24 20:40:00 -
[38] - Quote
seriously? The concept of one server and the fact that every decision can make a difference. You carry your history and can become someone if you choose to make the effort.
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9 |
Hal Morsh
404 Ship Not Found
Violent Declaration
120
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:12:00 -
[39] - Quote
Space
I enjoy a good session of mining. |
CompleteFailure
Killian Industries
178
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:20:00 -
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Of all the words in your OP, you felt it necessary to abbreviate the word "to?"
Stop being lazy. |
Emiko P'eng
109
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:36:00 -
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The Sheer Complexity and as pure a Sandbox as you can find in an online game |
Kijimea
Mulors
13
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:36:00 -
[42] - Quote
First thing i loved was that awesome looking universe. The first thing i hated and i still do is the community. Ingame Bio's are incredibly stupid and forum is full of wannabe's. However, the game itself is sweet. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
3911
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:19:00 -
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The fellow in Local paying 10M to two newbies who were willing to duel each other right outside the station (winner gets cash). Newbie fight club, he called it.
And then the first fight before I jumped in.. the winner seemed ecstatic in Local. He was so happy And then the loser and the winner write the exact same sentence.
He'd pulled out an alt to scam the fellow out of an easy 10M.
Love this game.
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Ria Nieyli
14334
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:21:00 -
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The economy.
Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1007
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:16:00 -
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Oh, god... the hatemail.
The hatemail that carebears send when you suicide gank their ships.
Something about receiving racist slurs and gay insults in my EVEmail box on a regular basis does it for me.
What is funny? Apparently this conduct is condoned by CCP, because those conducting this behavior continue to log in and play EVE.
Do I report it or petition it? Nah. It is not my job to be the PC police of the internet. They can search their own logs, I'm not doing their work for them.
But I welcome this special brand of open-mindedness and tolerance in an MMO - CCP's willingness to look the other way keeps me hard, keeps me coming back for more.
Sadly, encouraging people to read and understand the Code in TS, or perhaps even conducting a sing-a-long session - well, turns out that's a bridge too far - permabannable behavior.
Lucky for us, CCP is more forgiving when it comes to RL threats and getting called the N-word. A-OK in New Eden. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
1300
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:59:00 -
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The Jukebox.
This is-á a signature. |
Don Purple
343
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:21:00 -
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Psychotic Monk and Cannibal Kane,
They made me the pilot I am today.
I am just here to snuggle. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
100
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Don Purple wrote:Psychotic Monk and Cannibal Kane,
my first week in eve my ceo made me watchlist these great men. Btw I have that ceo's corpse :D
They made me the pilot I am today.
Are those two your characters also? |
Da Dom
Wii R
108
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
What was the first thing I loved about this game...?
Warping past a planet for the first time
:)(: |
Glathull
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
483
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Posted - 2014.07.25 07:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
Honestly, what got me hooked was the forums. I got laid off in 2008. I had lots of time on my hands, a decent severance package + unemployment. I'd never played any kind of MMO before. I tried a bunch. I would download a game, do some stuff, then find a forum to read about stuff and talk to people. EvE was the only game that had a community that didn't make me want to punch a kitten or throw a land mine at a bunny.
I wish I could remember the name of my very first character. Or the email address I used to sign up with. Would be a blast to go get that guy and bring him back, whoever he was. Oh well.
Turrents |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
612
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:05:00 -
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First time warping in 2002 was what hooked me. >_>
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6443
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Posted - 2014.07.25 09:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
Harrison Tato wrote:Don Purple wrote:Psychotic Monk and Cannibal Kane,
my first week in eve my ceo made me watchlist these great men. Btw I have that ceo's corpse :D
They made me the pilot I am today. Are those two your characters also?
He wishes lol
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
667
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Combat. Everywhere.
Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Mari Camos
Finnish Space Jaegers
Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:07:00 -
[54] - Quote
A sandbox. With space ships.
There seemed to be so many faces of EVE. So many things you could do, so many things you could be.
And I ended being bad at EVE.
Let the lager decide what is wrong, what is right. |
Jamagh
Grand Violations
242
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:20:00 -
[55] - Quote
I'm in space!
"Please stop reopening silly rumor threads."-á CCP Navigator. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
546
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:29:00 -
[56] - Quote
Pine Marten wrote:It was missions for me. They were all new to me and it was generally fun. Now it feels like a job just 2 make isk. Not that much at that. Now 2 make isk in empire, you have 2 do incursions. That's decent isk, but those are even more boring that mission's. At least your missions change. We need to eliminate concord and just make all space 0.0. Missions pay 20x as much.
Since you enjoy grinding and don't like CONCORD, here... pick your poison:
Brothers of Tangra - Space for rent in the expansive Drone Regions
Space for rent in the South. N3 rental program
[0.0 Rental] ***Chribba Secured!*** Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere- CFC Rental Program
o.0 |
Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus
Universal Consortium
84
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:31:00 -
[57] - Quote
I think it was the words ''The learning curve in this game is so brutal, it makes learning Mandarin, translated into Klingon seem like a piece of ****''
Plus it looked absolutely stunning. I came across a drone hive in a L4 the other day and was insanely impressed - the thing just looked so goddamn alien.
Only DayZ has induced a level of paranoia close to heart attack levels,as Eve does when flying through Null and low sec. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:17:00 -
[58] - Quote
I loved the complexity as well as the simplicity. I set up a training plan where I wouldn't be able to fight in the ships I wanted as a newbie for a few months, but I jumped into a nullsec corp almost right away and still found a place.
The idea that my 'plan' wouldn't come into effect for six months was amazing to me. The fact that just by scouting and setting up tacticals for my corp (when I was about a month old) earned me hundreds of millions of ISK in thank you donations showed me a side of the community that blew me away, and I have been hooked ever since. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
546
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
Since I've answered the not-so-hidden "remove CONCORD" part of the post, I'll answer the question from the title now:
It's the lack of skill grind.
o.0 |
Marsha Mallow
1352
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:51:00 -
[60] - Quote
Love is probably a bit strong, but the first entertaining thing I recall was being Concorded whilst a few of us duelled on station in rookie ships. By duelling I mean just taking random potshots and being splattered all over the undock. Docking to find a brand new ship made me really happy, but then it took a while to work out how to get in it. It's a fairly common question in Rookie chat even now, and still makes me snigger. Usually by the point people ask it they are really frustrated and either bellow in caps or grovel in shame over the question.
Saw a guy once screaming his ship had just given birth to an egg (was probably just a vet taking the mickey) but he had people wetting themselves laughing when he ranted on for ages about not being ready to be a parent.
Aura's "Silly pilot" routine was pretty funny too.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Erin Crawford
157
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:04:00 -
[61] - Quote
Undocking and getting that sensation of open, endless space...
I still think the camera should face outwards from within the docking port when undocking and not facing the station. It gives a much greater sense of one entering space. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2472
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:15:00 -
[62] - Quote
I'll let you know when it happens.
This is not a signature. |
Dalts
goat lips
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
70
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:09:00 -
[63] - Quote
Well, back in 2005 I was happily ninja ratting in a 0.0 entrance system in my trusty Cyclone, when suddenly I got jumped by someone in a ship I didn't even recognise...
...a few seconds or so later I had been absolutely melted by the Absolution, and from then on I loved lasers and my training changed from Minnie to Amarr, it was almost poetic watching how quickly I melted. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6282
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:39:00 -
[64] - Quote
When I was a newbie I joined a fleet led by the well known DaBigRedBoat
He told us stories while we shot POS and such in Branch
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1159
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:51:00 -
[65] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:When I was a newbie I joined a fleet led by the well known DaBigRedBoat
He told us stories while we shot POS and such in Branch
I wish my FC would tell me stories... |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15786
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:When I was a newbie I joined a fleet led by the well known DaBigRedBoat
He told us stories while we shot POS and such in Branch I wish my FC would tell me stories...
I thought like you once, and then I listened in on a highly sexualized graphic retelling of an abortion by a DBZ character.
BNI coms scarred me for life.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
marVLs
629
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:49:00 -
[67] - Quote
Music, it makes all that atmospere, that cool space climate (first start 6 or more years ago when You start in space not station).
I don't care about all that human interactions etc. that Seagull want more and more, i just want the best SPACE game... |
Creamdream
Unlimited Potential
2
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:00:00 -
[68] - Quote
The tutorials |
Dyscordia
Dissident Aggressors
Mordus Angels
24
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Posted - 2014.07.26 19:02:00 -
[69] - Quote
Red shift while in warp. It was attention to detail that really grabbed me at first. |
Nikolai Lachance
Happy Wheels Logistics
132
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Posted - 2014.07.26 22:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
The proper sense of scale. I liked that planets and stuff were the right size and appropriate distances apart. So many space games get this wrong-- presumably to make the space environment feel more interesting and populated.
It would be even cooler if things actually moved in proper orbits, but I realize that would add an order of magnitude of complexity to navigation and a lot of gameplay systems... oh well. |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
637
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Posted - 2014.07.26 22:18:00 -
[71] - Quote
The first time I right clicked a module and hit show info, and I wasn't treated like mentally deficient cucumber as other MMO's are so fond of doing.
Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
captain kikaz
Debitum Naturae
C0VEN
5
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Posted - 2014.07.26 22:49:00 -
[72] - Quote
The fact I could take your stuff off you and keep it and you couldn't do a damn thing about it.
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