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Chewan Mesa
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Posted - 2006.07.07 11:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Bob Niac
i ask that this is kept constructive
evey1 said the armor tanked raven was nuts .. now look
Well, at least remove the Photon Scat II then...and, you completely ignore the handy shield bonus then the eagle gets, as well as no single dmg-mod in the lows...
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Pan Zhu'Liang
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Posted - 2006.07.07 11:22:00 -
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why don't you train for an actual deimos instead? there is no way you're ever going to torture an eagle into performing like one, though the ecm midslot setups above seem like a pretty good try.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:20:00 -
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"The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 12:29:39
TheIon setup posted is the only sane Beagle option. Personally howver I prefer it with an mwd instead of ab and 3 mfsII (you have to drop 1 of the med noses for a small knave). Less tank more gank :D (Eagles are cheap-ish anyway). Edit: make sure you find room for a Large extender you want to be pertially passive tanked on this as cap is tight with mwd on.
The OP set up is of course very bad.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker
"The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:37:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Spanker
"The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
Why is it a disgrace? Since I can't have ballistics in lows? At least I won't blow up like you will after a few despoilers start shooting you. And how many pints did you have anyway, seems an awfully short trip to the pub in the time it took you to reply!
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MECHcore
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: MECHcore on 07/07/2006 12:40:33
HI:
- 2x med nos T2
- 4x ion blasters T2
MED:
- 1x L shieldbooster T2
- 1x em hard T2
- 1x 10mn AB T2
- 1x x5 proto web
- 1x 20km fleeting scrambler
LOW:
- 1x mag field stab T2
- 3x PDU T2
Im using this setup for ages and it works very good , nice balance between damage output , tank and speed 
Works fine for solo and small gangcombat , exellent to catch big fish , got all beagle related skills maxed 
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Denrace
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:28:00 -
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As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though.
Its just really really bad.
Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods.
Nuff said!
Den
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Spanker
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Spanker
"The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships"
Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve.
Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
Why is it a disgrace? Since I can't have ballistics in lows? At least I won't blow up like you will after a few despoilers start shooting you. And how many pints did you have anyway, seems an awfully short trip to the pub in the time it took you to reply!
You dont need ballistic in lows. You need mfsII. NPCs can not blow up a HAC in belts or missions or 10/10 plex unless if you ctd ot suffer a stroke or your mouse goes dead or something. Shiled tank takes advantage of the Eagles bonuses and is as strong as the armor tank assisted by cap IIs in mids. So you give up all your lows for nothing.
You dont realise that, even against npc, a very healthy DPS improves your tank imeasurably.
The only correct point on your post is that I didnt go to the pub... I guess you pownt me there 
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: OrangeAfroMan
My Jaguar has about 50 more DPS and a better tank... and its a frigate :/ In fact my Artillery Wolf has more DPS.
Nerf the Jaguar and the Wolf!
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Denrace
As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though.
Its just really really bad.
Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods.
Nuff said!
Den
While I agree with you Den (see my posts above) the L booster tank though far inferior for generic tank purposes allows you to carry a scram (the passive tank eith 1 extender also needs a booster to be effective, with two extenders no room for scram) so its valid in some cases... All things considered I still prefer the passive tank.
OC 3 mfsII is the way, 3 pdsII is a waste of a Beagle (or rail Eagle for that matter).
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Nicose
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:55:00 -
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all those who thought this guys idea sucked.....STFU!
you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get WTFPWND by a caldari blaster ship. 
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:56:00 -
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150 DPS?
My Vengeance does 174. 
Sure this eagle can tank better but you're better off with a blaster thorax and don't waste a ****load of isk.
Actually looking again at this setup. Wont even tank well beacuse it will run dry pretty quick. A skilled pilot willl kill you in a tech 1 cruiser if you fly that.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:22:40
Originally by: Nicose
all those who thought this guys idea sucked.....STFU!
you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get WTFPWND by a caldari blaster ship.
You meant that he came up with it liek 2 years ago or that a Deagle is different to a Beagle 
Edit: @OP one last time: Demios = henchman Deimos = a moon -of March I think and a minor greek demi-god (or quarter-god not sure) get the names right the ship is Deimos.
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DirtyDozen
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:22:00 -
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4 Hvy Neutron t2
2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2
Invuln t2
EM t2
Fleeting Web
10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2)
1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
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U want stripes take ur ass to the service
Cause when it's on ain't no time to get nervous
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDozen
4 Hvy Neutron t2
2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2
Invuln t2
EM t2
Fleeting Web
10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2)
1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that.
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Kamasutra Sensei
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Posted - 2006.07.07 16:33:00 -
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I have been playing with capital ships only past 6 months so my wisdom is a bit dated. But I'm suprised I haven't seen this suggestion (if i missed it i'm sorry, give the first guy credit). I ama deimos pilot, back in the day people would put t2 small neuts and dmg mods on them to get retarded dmg. Maybe you could try a small t2 neut, mwd, and some dmg mods for an eagle gank. Just a thought. And don't flame me cause I've never flown an eagle, just trying to offer a fresh perspective.
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DirtyDozen
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Posted - 2006.07.07 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: DirtyDozen on 07/07/2006 17:21:26
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:25:23
Originally by: DirtyDozen
4 Hvy Neutron t2
2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2
Invuln t2
EM t2
Fleeting Web
10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2)
1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that. (you said gang so I ll let you keep the launchers instead of Nos )
Yeah i like the launchers cause i can fit furies and cause mass damage. But switching the neuts to ions, is that for fitting purposes? I've always felt like an mwd on a caldari ship is like suicide but i'll try it out. I do somewhere around 698 wreckings w/ the neuts, so i just kinda liked them since then. I have maxed out eagle skills across the board.
I'm always open to suggestions , so if there are anymore shoot away.
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U want stripes take ur ass to the service
Cause when it's on ain't no time to get nervous
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:03:00 -
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Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS,
10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web
1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyDozen
Edited by: DirtyDozen on 07/07/2006 17:21:26
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:25:23
Originally by: DirtyDozen
4 Hvy Neutron t2
2 hvy missles t2
Med Shield boost t2
Invuln t2
EM t2
Fleeting Web
10mn ab t2
3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2)
1 pdu t2
I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs.
Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that. (you said gang so I ll let you keep the launchers instead of Nos )
Yeah i like the launchers cause i can fit furies and cause mass damage. But switching the neuts to ions, is that for fitting purposes? I've always felt like an mwd on a caldari ship is like suicide but i'll try it out. I do somewhere around 698 wreckings w/ the neuts, so i just kinda liked them since then. I have maxed out eagle skills across the board.
I'm always open to suggestions , so if there are anymore shoot away.
I am not saying its like a Rule. Its just that I like extenders (L) and mwd and therefore dont mind droping my Neuts for Ions. A bit less range a bit more tracking meh.
As for mwds, point taken but (a) thats why you passive tank it -partially- (b) Eagle's cap is much better than the Cerbs and oc much better than any other Caldari ship (bar tech II BCs which I havent touched due to lack of SPs not interest)
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 18:09:58
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS,
10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web
1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or projectiles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS,
10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web
1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
I would go for Photon Hardeners but really no point. Mids are hard to setup. If not large shield extenders then mids are very easy.
MWD, Web, Scramb, Photon Hardener, Large Shield Booster.
Then again, PvP isnt consentual. Dont fight Amarr. 
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Mine:
4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS,
10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web
1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2
Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
I would go for Photon Hardeners but really no point. Mids are hard to setup. If not large shield extenders then mids are very easy.
MWD, Web, Scramb, Photon Hardener, Large Shield Booster.
Then again, PvP isnt consentual. Dont fight Amarr.
Hehe a compromise is 1 L extend instead of the scram or and med booster but this is good too.
Dont fight ammar is only half the story:
Dont fight ammar, dont fight a/c ships dont fight phoons dont fight Caldari dont fight Gallente with spare Em drones dont fight Thoraxes fitted with 425 a/cs ... thats a long list Jenny :P
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 19:13:00 -
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Blaster Eagles are just WRONG :|
If you want to use blasters use a Deimos, it's much better suited to the task.
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Waragha
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Posted - 2006.07.07 19:19:00 -
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There have been some crappy setups in here.. But this really takes the prize!
Grats..
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.07 19:23:00 -
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It's Beagle not Deagle you dimwit! You know, Blaster Eagle...
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
- In Rust We Trust -
Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine?
LOL -Suvetar |
Qual'thek
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Posted - 2006.07.07 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Waragha
There have been some crappy setups in here.. But this really takes the prize!
Grats..
Well then instead of just flaming....why not offer something constructive? Or just STFU  But i guess that what happens when u get an industrialist trying to talk pvp. |
wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.07.07 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Blaster Eagles are just WRONG :|
If you want to use blasters use a Deimos, it's much better suited to the task.
tbh its strange but blaster eagle is so better then deimos ...
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 22:51:00 -
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I've yet to hear a convincing argument to back that statement up, feel free to try
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.07 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
In a 1v1, an Eagle with blasters + ecm will obviously win (ecm h4x, ch34tz, etc), but the Deimos just screams "blaaaaaasterbooooaaaat".
And there-in lies the problem. It's all well and good to say that a Deimos will kick a Beagle's arse if it doesn't use ECM, but on TQ the vast majority of people will be fitting just that, making them more effective than a Deimos.
It's sad, but sadly true :/
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
- In Rust We Trust -
Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine?
LOL -Suvetar |
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