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Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:00:00 - [1] HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 212 \| 26] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Signature Resolution = 125.0 m targetModule = 0.0 powergrid usage = 212.4 MW Charge size = 2.0 1=small 2=medium 3=l Accuracy falloff = 6250.0 m caldariNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 Tertiary Skill required = 12211.0 slots occupied = 1.0 Secondary Skill required = 3300.0 Primary Skill required = 3304.0 gallenteNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 requiredSkill3Level = 1.0 requiredSkill2Level = 3.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 Charge Rate = 1.0 Trackingspeed / Accuracy = 0.137 rad/sec Optimal Range = 4000.696 m Rate of fire = 4.72 CPU usage = 26.138 tf hp = 20.0 Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 4.036 Energy Damage Modifier = 7.219 x accuracyBonus = 0.0 - [ 212 \| 26] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Signature Resolution = 125.0 m targetModule = 0.0 powergrid usage = 212.4 MW Charge size = 2.0 1=small 2=medium 3=l Accuracy falloff = 6250.0 m caldariNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 Tertiary Skill required = 12211.0 slots occupied = 1.0 Secondary Skill required = 3300.0 Primary Skill required = 3304.0 gallenteNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 requiredSkill3Level = 1.0 requiredSkill2Level = 3.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 Charge Rate = 1.0 Trackingspeed / Accuracy = 0.137 rad/sec Optimal Range = 4000.696 m Rate of fire = 4.72 CPU usage = 26.138 tf hp = 20.0 Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 4.036 Energy Damage Modifier = 7.219 x accuracyBonus = 0.0 - [ 212 \| 26] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Signature Resolution = 125.0 m targetModule = 0.0 powergrid usage = 212.4 MW Charge size = 2.0 1=small 2=medium 3=l Accuracy falloff = 6250.0 m caldariNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 Tertiary Skill required = 12211.0 slots occupied = 1.0 Secondary Skill required = 3300.0 Primary Skill required = 3304.0 gallenteNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 requiredSkill3Level = 1.0 requiredSkill2Level = 3.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 Charge Rate = 1.0 Trackingspeed / Accuracy = 0.137 rad/sec Optimal Range = 4000.696 m Rate of fire = 4.72 CPU usage = 26.138 tf hp = 20.0 Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 4.036 Energy Damage Modifier = 7.219 x accuracyBonus = 0.0 - [ 212 \| 26] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Signature Resolution = 125.0 m targetModule = 0.0 powergrid usage = 212.4 MW Charge size = 2.0 1=small 2=medium 3=l Accuracy falloff = 6250.0 m caldariNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 Tertiary Skill required = 12211.0 slots occupied = 1.0 Secondary Skill required = 3300.0 Primary Skill required = 3304.0 gallenteNavyBonusMultiplier = 0.0 requiredSkill3Level = 1.0 requiredSkill2Level = 3.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 Charge Rate = 1.0 Trackingspeed / Accuracy = 0.137 rad/sec Optimal Range = 4000.696 m Rate of fire = 4.72 CPU usage = 26.138 tf hp = 20.0 Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 4.036 Energy Damage Modifier = 7.219 x accuracyBonus = 0.0 - [ 9 \| 15] E5 Prototype Energy Vampire powergrid usage = 9.0 MW Tech Level = 1.0 amarrNavyBonusMulitplier = 0.0 CPU usage = 15.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3423.0 Activation time / duration = 3.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 1.0 activation cost = 0.0 Energy Transfer range = 5500.0 m Energy transfer amount = 9.2 - [ 9 \| 15] E5 Prototype Energy Vampire powergrid usage = 9.0 MW Tech Level = 1.0 amarrNavyBonusMulitplier = 0.0 CPU usage = 15.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3423.0 Activation time / duration = 3.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 1.0 activation cost = 0.0 Energy Transfer range = 5500.0 m Energy transfer amount = 9.2
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:01:00 - [2] LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 1 \| 44] Armor Explosive Hardener II powergrid usage = 1.0 MW Primary Skill required = 3394.0 Active Explosive dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Activation time / duration = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 5.0 Active Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Active Thermal dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Thermal dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Explosive dmg resistance bonus = -55.0 % EM dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % CPU usage = 44.0 tf hp = 10.0 Active EM dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 30.0 Energy Passive thermal dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Passive kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Passive Explosive dmg resistance bonus = -1.0 % Passive EM dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % - [ 2 \| 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % Explosive dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % powergrid usage = 2.0 MW EM dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 30.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3394.0 Armor HP bonus = 100.0 % hp = 10.0 requiredSkill1Level = 5.0 Thermal dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % - [ 2 \| 30] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % Explosive dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % powergrid usage = 2.0 MW EM dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 30.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3394.0 Armor HP bonus = 100.0 % hp = 10.0 requiredSkill1Level = 5.0 Thermal dmg resistance bonus = -20.0 % - [ 173 \| 28] Medium Armor Repairer II powergrid usage = 173.0 MW Armor hp Repaired = 320.0 Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 28.0 tf Secondary Skill required = 3392.0 Primary Skill required = 3393.0 Activation time / duration = 9.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill2Level = 4.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 activation cost = 160.0 Energy
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:01:00 - [3] MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 1 \| 35] Tracking Computer II Max Range Multiplier = 1.15 x powergrid usage = 1.0 MW Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 35.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3317.0 Activation time / duration = 30.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 activation cost = 20.0 Energy Tracking Speed Multiplier = 1.3 - [ 1 \| 35] Tracking Computer II Max Range Multiplier = 1.15 x powergrid usage = 1.0 MW Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 35.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3317.0 Activation time / duration = 30.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 activation cost = 20.0 Energy Tracking Speed Multiplier = 1.3 - [ 1 \| 35] Tracking Computer II Max Range Multiplier = 1.15 x powergrid usage = 1.0 MW Tech Level = 2.0 CPU usage = 35.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3317.0 Activation time / duration = 30.0 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 activation cost = 20.0 Energy Tracking Speed Multiplier = 1.3 - [ 1 \| 9] Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation Targeting speed bonus = 57.5 % powergrid usage = 1.0 MW Targeting Range Bonus = 157.5 % Tech Level = 1.0 Max Locked Targets Bonus = 0.0 CPU usage = 9.0 tf Primary Skill required = 3428.0 Activation time / duration = 11.5 hp = 20.0 requiredSkill1Level = 1.0 activation cost = 10.0 Energy Scan Resolution Bonus = 157.5 % - [ 0 \| 44] Photon Scattering Field II powergrid usage = 0.95 MW Primary Skill required = 3420.0 Active Explosive dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Activation time / duration = 10.0 requiredSkill1Level = 4.0 Active Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Active Thermal dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Thermal dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Explosive dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % EM dmg resistance bonus = -55.0 % CPU usage = 44.0 tf hp = 20.0 Active EM dmg resistance bonus = 100.0 % Tech Level = 2.0 activation cost = 20.0 Energy Passive thermal dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Passive kinetic dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Passive Explosive dmg resistance bonus = 0.0 % Passive EM dmg resistance bonus = -1.0 %
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:02:00 - [4] Summary: Eagle Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] Heavy Neutron Blaster II [80xVoid M] E5 Prototype Energy Vampire E5 Prototype Energy Vampire Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation Photon Scattering Field II Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:02:00 - [5] SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powergrid : 1050.55 / 1093.75 MW CPU : 424.55 / 503.7 tf Capacitor (regen) : 1320.0 Energy (254.6sec) Max Cap Regen : 12.7 per sec (approx.) Max Cap Needed : 23.12 per sec Velocity : 201.25 m/sec Signature : 150.0 m Target Range : 110250.0 m Scan Resolution : 330.75 mm ECCM Gravimetric : 18.0 points Shield HP (regen) : 1968.75 (850.0sec) Max Shield Regen : 5.79 per sec (approx.) Shield EM : 66.25 % Shield Explo : 70.0 % Shield Kinetic : 77.5 % Shield Thermal : 85.0 % Armor HP : 1181.25 Armor EM : 73.56 % Armor Explo : 73.23 % Armor Kinetic : 75.21 % Armor Thermal : 90.91 % Structure HP : 1718.75 Drone Capacity : 0.0 m3 Capacity : 0.0 Warp Max Distance : 124.9 AU ==> 150.3 DPS <==
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:03:00 - [6] wtf? join col ! now
SasRipper	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:03:00 - [7] that has gota be the most awarked way to post a setup ever and it sucks ;/ Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
Capt 69	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:04:00 - [8] what the ****
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:06:00 - [9]
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:07:00 - [10] i ask that this is kept constructive evey1 said the armor tanked raven was nuts .. now look
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Bob Niac i ask that this is kept constructive evey1 said the armor tanked raven was nuts .. now look tbh maybe try fit ecm in meds? but this setup is wors ever it sucks heavy join col ! now
SasRipper	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:09:00 - [12] k this is constructive you are noob!. Plz undock in the eagle and self destruct it as it is in great pain! and at least fix the mids ffs Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
Deadeye Dave	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:10:00 - [13] Edited by: Deadeye Dave on 06/07/2006 23:11:46 Im no expert but blasters without a propulsion mod (MWD) arent going to be good against much especially without a web. Isn't a Blaster Eagle normally called a Beagle?
SasRipper	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:11:00 - [14] and this guy sells cap ships /me wonders when hes going to post a gun armour tanked phoeix or maybe a giga pulse shield tank moros Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
Leandro Salazar	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:11:00 - [15] You would have more success getting constructive responses if you didnt post in such a retarded way. Only the summary would have been more than enough... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Bob Niac Summary: Eagle 4x ions II 2x nos 3xhipnos multis mwd scrambler Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II bit fixed duno maybe it can be bit better setup join col ! now
Cuebick	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:15:00 - [17] Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Medium Diminishing Nos Medium Diminishing Nos Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Fleeting Webber Fleeting Scrambler 10mn Afterburner II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Mangetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic Unit II Power Diagnostic Unit II I had to resize my sig
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:16:00 - [18] Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:18:37 Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:17:43 i sell them .. i dun fly them and i have finnally decided to train my combat alt into an Eagle. This is a pure dps setup and armor tank. Please do not suggest sheild tanks.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Cuebick Edited by: Cuebick on 06/07/2006 23:15:30 Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Fleeting Webber Fleeting Scrambler 10mn Afterburner II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Mangetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic Unit II Power Diagnostic Unit II well this is good setup :) join col ! now
Marcus Alkhaar	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:17:00 - [20] You might try: 4x Electron Blaster II 1x Medium nos 1x Small nos 1x 10mn MWD 1x 20km scram 1x web 2x ecm modules 1x med rep 1x 800mm plate 1x exp hard 1x damage control it fits grid/cpu wise it actually might work out - hehe ---------------------------------------------- Marcus Alkhaar > so you're saying that I got the Pottsey-stamp? Pottsey > first class stamp Collector edition. Marcus Alkhaar > <--- Dances
Marcus Alkhaar	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:20:00 - [21] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Cuebick Edited by: Cuebick on 06/07/2006 23:15:30 Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Fleeting Webber Fleeting Scrambler 10mn Afterburner II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Mangetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic Unit II Power Diagnostic Unit II well this is good setup :) its the standard setup every decent Beagle pilot uses wrong? I use the excact same fitting and posted it alot of times in different Beagle-posts - so has MECHcore (just with 1 Mag stab II less and another PDS II ---------------------------------------------- Marcus Alkhaar > so you're saying that I got the Pottsey-stamp? Pottsey > first class stamp Collector edition. Marcus Alkhaar > <--- Dances
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:35:00 - [22] well i was thinking somewhat more "multi-purpose" setup somewhat of a dual edged sword. You cant tank as well but you sure as hell can dish it out
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.06 23:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Deadeye Dave Edited by: Deadeye Dave on 06/07/2006 23:11:46 Im no expert but blasters without a propulsion mod (MWD) arent going to be good against much especially without a web. Isn't a Blaster Eagle normally called a Beagle? yes but seeing yhow this is an armor tanked blaster setup, it is more reminisant of a Demios
Richard Cypher	Posted - 2006.07.07 00:18:00 - [24] Originally by: SasRipper that has gota be the most awarked way to post a setup ever and it sucks ;/ Instead of ****ing flaming him maybe you help him? kthxstfu. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Necrologic	Posted - 2006.07.07 00:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Bob Niac You cant tank as well but you sure as hell can dish it out Actually you arn't doing a whole lot. 150 dps is crap. You'd be better with a rail brutix if you want dps between 10 and 20km.
Xoduse	Posted - 2006.07.07 00:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Bob Niac Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:18:37 Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:17:43 i sell them .. i dun fly them and i have finnally decided to train my combat alt into an Eagle. This is a pure dps setup and armor tank. Please do not suggest sheild tanks. Pure DPS? Your using slots that could be filled with Mag Stabs for an untraditional armor tank, and the mids for a bunch of tracking junk. It looks like a sniper setup with an armor tank until you get to the blasters. Medium blasters dont track that freakin bad.
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.07.07 00:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Bob Niac Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:18:37 Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:17:43 i sell them .. i dun fly them and i have finnally decided to train my combat alt into an Eagle. This is a pure dps setup and armor tank. Please do not suggest sheild tanks. My Jaguar has about 50 more DPS and a better tank... and its a frigate :/ In fact my Artillery Wolf has more DPS. :/ Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Lady Amira	Posted - 2006.07.07 10:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Bob Niac well i was thinking somewhat more "multi-purpose" setup And that way madness lies. Fit for purpose and dont try to get a "one size fits all" setup. It can't be done effectively.
madaluap	Posted - 2006.07.07 10:31:00 - [29] think not many people get it, DPS calculations in quickfit SUCK, they are no where near the real dps... _________________________________________________
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.07.07 10:37:00 - [30] Armour tanking doesnt work in Eagle. Will never work because Eagle has bonus to shields not armour. Works on Raven because it is a battleship and it doesnt matter if you shield tank or armour tank as it doesnt have bonus to either. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Chewan Mesa	Posted - 2006.07.07 11:09:00 - [31] Originally by: Bob Niac i ask that this is kept constructive evey1 said the armor tanked raven was nuts .. now look Well, at least remove the Photon Scat II then...and, you completely ignore the handy shield bonus then the eagle gets, as well as no single dmg-mod in the lows...
Pan Zhu'Liang	Posted - 2006.07.07 11:22:00 - [32] why don't you train for an actual deimos instead? there is no way you're ever going to torture an eagle into performing like one, though the ecm midslot setups above seem like a pretty good try.
Spanker	Posted - 2006.07.07 12:20:00 - [33] "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships" Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve. - Shpank
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 12:28:00 - [34] Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 12:29:39 TheIon setup posted is the only sane Beagle option. Personally howver I prefer it with an mwd instead of ab and 3 mfsII (you have to drop 1 of the med noses for a small knave). Less tank more gank :D (Eagles are cheap-ish anyway). Edit: make sure you find room for a Large extender you want to be pertially passive tanked on this as cap is tight with mwd on. The OP set up is of course very bad.
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 12:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Spanker "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships" Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve. Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace.
Spanker	Posted - 2006.07.07 12:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Spanker "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships" Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve. Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace. Why is it a disgrace? Since I can't have ballistics in lows? At least I won't blow up like you will after a few despoilers start shooting you. And how many pints did you have anyway, seems an awfully short trip to the pub in the time it took you to reply! - Shpank
MECHcore	Posted - 2006.07.07 12:38:00 - [37] Edited by: MECHcore on 07/07/2006 12:40:33 HI: - 2x med nos T2 - 4x ion blasters T2 MED: - 1x L shieldbooster T2 - 1x em hard T2 - 1x 10mn AB T2 - 1x x5 proto web - 1x 20km fleeting scrambler LOW: - 1x mag field stab T2 - 3x PDU T2 Im using this setup for ages and it works very good , nice balance between damage output , tank and speed Works fine for solo and small gangcombat , exellent to catch big fish , got all beagle related skills maxed
Denrace	Posted - 2006.07.07 13:28:00 - [38] As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though. Its just really really bad. Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods. Nuff said! Den ________________________________________
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 13:35:00 - [39] Originally by: Spanker Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Spanker "The number of midslots caldari ships have make them better to armor tank with than most amarr ships" Scribble the above sentence down on a napkin, run down to your local pub with your mates and discuss. I'm sure insight will come by the second or third pint. Unless there's girls there. In which case forget everything about eve. Ewwweewwweeee the terrible ratting set ups with the 5 capIIs ... disgrace. Why is it a disgrace? Since I can't have ballistics in lows? At least I won't blow up like you will after a few despoilers start shooting you. And how many pints did you have anyway, seems an awfully short trip to the pub in the time it took you to reply! You dont need ballistic in lows. You need mfsII. NPCs can not blow up a HAC in belts or missions or 10/10 plex unless if you ctd ot suffer a stroke or your mouse goes dead or something. Shiled tank takes advantage of the Eagles bonuses and is as strong as the armor tank assisted by cap IIs in mids. So you give up all your lows for nothing. You dont realise that, even against npc, a very healthy DPS improves your tank imeasurably. The only correct point on your post is that I didnt go to the pub... I guess you pownt me there
Cade Morrigan	Posted - 2006.07.07 13:36:00 - [40] Originally by: OrangeAfroMan My Jaguar has about 50 more DPS and a better tank... and its a frigate :/ In fact my Artillery Wolf has more DPS. Nerf the Jaguar and the Wolf! -= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 13:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Denrace As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though. Its just really really bad. Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods. Nuff said! Den While I agree with you Den (see my posts above) the L booster tank though far inferior for generic tank purposes allows you to carry a scram (the passive tank eith 1 extender also needs a booster to be effective, with two extenders no room for scram) so its valid in some cases... All things considered I still prefer the passive tank. OC 3 mfsII is the way, 3 pdsII is a waste of a Beagle (or rail Eagle for that matter).
Nicose	Posted - 2006.07.07 15:55:00 - [42] all those who thought this guys idea sucked.....STFU! you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get WTFPWND by a caldari blaster ship.
MOS DEF	Posted - 2006.07.07 15:56:00 - [43] 150 DPS? My Vengeance does 174. Sure this eagle can tank better but you're better off with a blaster thorax and don't waste a ****load of isk. Actually looking again at this setup. Wont even tank well beacuse it will run dry pretty quick. A skilled pilot willl kill you in a tech 1 cruiser if you fly that.
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:21:00 - [44] Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:22:40 Originally by: Nicose all those who thought this guys idea sucked.....STFU! you'll be laughing on the other side of your face when you get WTFPWND by a caldari blaster ship. You meant that he came up with it liek 2 years ago or that a Deagle is different to a Beagle Edit: @OP one last time: Demios = henchman Deimos = a moon -of March I think and a minor greek demi-god (or quarter-god not sure) get the names right the ship is Deimos.
DirtyDozen	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:22:00 - [45] 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2 Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2 3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2 I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs. -------------------------------------------------- U want stripes take ur ass to the service Cause when it's on ain't no time to get nervous
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:25:00 - [46] Originally by: DirtyDozen 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2 Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2 3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2 I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs. Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that.
Kamasutra Sensei	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:33:00 - [47] I have been playing with capital ships only past 6 months so my wisdom is a bit dated. But I'm suprised I haven't seen this suggestion (if i missed it i'm sorry, give the first guy credit). I ama deimos pilot, back in the day people would put t2 small neuts and dmg mods on them to get retarded dmg. Maybe you could try a small t2 neut, mwd, and some dmg mods for an eagle gank. Just a thought. And don't flame me cause I've never flown an eagle, just trying to offer a fresh perspective.
DirtyDozen	Posted - 2006.07.07 17:21:00 - [48] Edited by: DirtyDozen on 07/07/2006 17:21:26 Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:25:23 Originally by: DirtyDozen 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2 Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2 3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2 I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs. Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that. (you said gang so I ll let you keep the launchers instead of Nos ) Yeah i like the launchers cause i can fit furies and cause mass damage. But switching the neuts to ions, is that for fitting purposes? I've always felt like an mwd on a caldari ship is like suicide but i'll try it out. I do somewhere around 698 wreckings w/ the neuts, so i just kinda liked them since then. I have maxed out eagle skills across the board. I'm always open to suggestions , so if there are anymore shoot away. -------------------------------------------------- U want stripes take ur ass to the service Cause when it's on ain't no time to get nervous
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:03:00 - [49] Mine: 4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2 ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:06:00 - [50] Originally by: DirtyDozen Edited by: DirtyDozen on 07/07/2006 17:21:26 Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 16:25:23 Originally by: DirtyDozen 4 Hvy Neutron t2 2 hvy missles t2 Med Shield boost t2 Invuln t2 EM t2 Fleeting Web 10mn ab t2 3 mag stab t2 (or 2 magstab2 and 1 tracking enhancer t2) 1 pdu t2 I haven't gone solo in this setup but works great for gangs. Drop the inv drop the neuts fit Ions fit L extender II, drop ab fit mwd tell me what you think after you have tried that. (you said gang so I ll let you keep the launchers instead of Nos ) Yeah i like the launchers cause i can fit furies and cause mass damage. But switching the neuts to ions, is that for fitting purposes? I've always felt like an mwd on a caldari ship is like suicide but i'll try it out. I do somewhere around 698 wreckings w/ the neuts, so i just kinda liked them since then. I have maxed out eagle skills across the board. I'm always open to suggestions , so if there are anymore shoot away. I am not saying its like a Rule. Its just that I like extenders (L) and mwd and therefore dont mind droping my Neuts for Ions. A bit less range a bit more tracking meh. As for mwds, point taken but (a) thats why you passive tank it -partially- (b) Eagle's cap is much better than the Cerbs and oc much better than any other Caldari ship (bar tech II BCs which I havent touched due to lack of SPs not interest)
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:09:00 - [51] Edited by: Crellion on 07/07/2006 18:09:58 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mine: 4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2 Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or projectiles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded)
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:11:00 - [52] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mine: 4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2 Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded) I would go for Photon Hardeners but really no point. Mids are hard to setup. If not large shield extenders then mids are very easy. MWD, Web, Scramb, Photon Hardener, Large Shield Booster. Then again, PvP isnt consentual. Dont fight Amarr. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.07 18:17:00 - [53] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Mine: 4 Hvy Ions T2, 2 Named Med NOS, 10MN MWD T2, 2 Large Shield Extenders T2, 1 Domination Warp, Fleeting Web 1 RCU T2, 2 PDU T2, 1 Mag stab T2 Jenny you have a HAC there (well almost a HAC Eagle isnt quite a HAC is it?) with a 20% resist on EM on its tank... it can get messy if you meet lasers or missles or even Em drone users (rare)... I never used a tech II Caldari ship without an Em hardener tbh ... (ceptors excluded) I would go for Photon Hardeners but really no point. Mids are hard to setup. If not large shield extenders then mids are very easy. MWD, Web, Scramb, Photon Hardener, Large Shield Booster. Then again, PvP isnt consentual. Dont fight Amarr. Hehe a compromise is 1 L extend instead of the scram or and med booster but this is good too. Dont fight ammar is only half the story: Dont fight ammar, dont fight a/c ships dont fight phoons dont fight Caldari dont fight Gallente with spare Em drones dont fight Thoraxes fitted with 425 a/cs ... thats a long list Jenny :P
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2006.07.07 19:13:00 - [54] Blaster Eagles are just WRONG :\| If you want to use blasters use a Deimos, it's much better suited to the task.
Waragha	Posted - 2006.07.07 19:19:00 - [55] There have been some crappy setups in here.. But this really takes the prize! Grats..
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.07 19:23:00 - [56] It's Beagle not Deagle you dimwit! You know, Blaster Eagle... TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Qual'thek	Posted - 2006.07.07 20:26:00 - [57] Originally by: Waragha There have been some crappy setups in here.. But this really takes the prize! Grats.. Well then instead of just flaming....why not offer something constructive? Or just STFU But i guess that what happens when u get an industrialist trying to talk pvp.
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.07.07 20:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Blaster Eagles are just WRONG :\| If you want to use blasters use a Deimos, it's much better suited to the task. tbh its strange but blaster eagle is so better then deimos ... join col ! now
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2006.07.07 22:51:00 - [59] I've yet to hear a convincing argument to back that statement up, feel free to try
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.07 22:51:00 - [60] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion In a 1v1, an Eagle with blasters + ecm will obviously win (ecm h4x, ch34tz, etc), but the Deimos just screams "blaaaaaasterbooooaaaat". And there-in lies the problem. It's all well and good to say that a Deimos will kick a Beagle's arse if it doesn't use ECM, but on TQ the vast majority of people will be fitting just that, making them more effective than a Deimos. It's sad, but sadly true :/ TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2006.07.07 22:54:00 - [61] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion In a 1v1, an Eagle with blasters + ecm will obviously win (ecm h4x, ch34tz, etc), but the Deimos just screams "blaaaaaasterbooooaaaat". And there-in lies the problem. It's all well and good to say that a Deimos will kick a Beagle's arse if it doesn't use ECM, but on TQ the vast majority of people will be fitting just that, making them more effective than a Deimos. It's sad, but sadly true :/ Hardly any of the setups here have ECM, besides, to effectively jam a HAC you'll need three jammers leaving you two slots, one for your scrambler and one for your ab (MWD will nerf your cap too much to sustain jammers long enough). Meaning a half clued up Deimos pilot will just MWD away. Discussing 1v1's between HACs will always be pointless though, there are too many variables given the ships inherrent specialities, I was merely covering all my bases
Helpdesk	Posted - 2006.07.07 23:13:00 - [62] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion ... and 80% of the Eagles range is optimal rather than falloff making tracking frigs at extreme close range more problematic. /me shakes head and cries. Below your optimal, only TRACKING (and sig radius of ship + gun) is taken into account wether you hit or not. Below optimal your fall-off does NOT MATTER. Optimal of 10km and fall-off of 20km or 20m makes no difference when tracking frigates below 10km... it's just that the first option can, in theory, hit up to 10 +2x20 = 50km, where the second example can only hit up to 10k+2x20= 10,040m. Now, back to the Eagle...
MECHcore	Posted - 2006.07.08 00:52:00 - [63] The nos beagle has its mayor strengt in tanking while dealing decent dps for a cheap HAC. 2 med nos T2 , 3x PDU T2 and u can run the L shieldbooster T2 pretty long , but just not enough for nonstop running with maxed skills. Max med blaster skills using ions T2 + 1 damage mod , and 5%damage implant , wrecking above 700+ damage on structure , with a rof of 3.07sec so that aint bad The eagle has still a 5% damage bonus each lvl , so its sumthing. Awesome ship i would say
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.09 00:11:00 - [64] wow a lot of decent posts here im suprised.. and here i thought it might be a flame war after seeing this i am def. going for a more traditional Beagle.
Nidhoggur	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:06:00 - [65] Originally by: Denrace As a long time Blasteagle pilot, I must say thats the worst setup i have EVER seen, no offence intended though. Its just really really bad. Dude...PASSIVE tank with extenders, and a rack of DMG mods. Nuff said! Den Den, I love your sig, but I think it would be more effective with just your char with a bounty on his head. Oh, yeah, the orginal post. Well, the DPS is real low for a blaster ship... I get much higher in my enyo. The whole setup just seems pointless and strained.
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.09 17:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Nidhoggur Oh, yeah, the orginal post. Well, the DPS is real low for a blaster ship... I get much higher in my enyo. The whole setup just seems pointless and strained. I love it when people read the whole thread. Heck i evevn love it when they come up with original names, like the name of a carrier. (which is against the EULA)
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.07.09 18:49:00 - [67] So uhm, where's the web, or MWD? God man, drop a tracking copr, or 2, or better yet all 3. Fit a web, fit a mwd, fit a scram.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.07.09 18:54:00 - [68] Originally by: Bob Niac Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:18:37 Edited by: Bob Niac on 06/07/2006 23:17:43 i sell them .. i dun fly them and i have finnally decided to train my combat alt into an Eagle. This is a pure dps setup and armor tank. Please do not suggest sheild tanks. I think my Harpy with Rails may out DPS you.
Nidhoggur	Posted - 2006.07.09 19:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Bob Niac Originally by: Nidhoggur Oh, yeah, the orginal post. Well, the DPS is real low for a blaster ship... I get much higher in my enyo. The whole setup just seems pointless and strained. I love it when people read the whole thread. Heck i evevn love it when they come up with original names, like the name of a carrier. (which is against the EULA) Sigh I have actually wasted a large amount of time reading this pathetic excuse for a thread, for the first thing. Secondly, thankyou for demonstrating your inherent lack of knowledge. I am in fact named after a dragon from norse mythology. Ironic how people look most cretinous while they are trying to look intelligent.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.07.09 19:06:00 - [70] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion In a 1v1, an Eagle with blasters + ecm will obviously win (ecm h4x, ch34tz, etc), but the Deimos just screams "blaaaaaasterbooooaaaat". And there-in lies the problem. It's all well and good to say that a Deimos will kick a Beagle's arse if it doesn't use ECM, but on TQ the vast majority of people will be fitting just that, making them more effective than a Deimos. It's sad, but sadly true :/ Doesn't Alasse have a trump for all Deimos vs Eagle discussions? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.07.10 11:20:00 - [71] Originally by: Nidhoggur Sigh I have actually wasted a large amount of time reading this pathetic excuse for a thread, for the first thing. Secondly, thankyou for demonstrating your inherent lack of knowledge. I am in fact named after a dragon from norse mythology. Ironic how people look most cretinous while they are trying to look intelligent. Cough Cough
Sharrow Za	Posted - 2006.07.10 16:02:00 - [72] Yes, we know there's a carrier called Nidhoggur. His point is that a) CCP didn't invent the name, and in fact probably b) that he had the name before the carrier existed.

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