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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23499
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Posted - 2014.07.28 23:38:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:That's like saying Eminem sold more records than the grateful dead because he's a better musician.
So you're saying I should become a very thin front for an LCD distribution business?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Alundil
Isogen 5
607
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Posted - 2014.07.28 23:51:00 -
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Samantha Floyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:CCP Peligro wrote: That 5-digit-liked posts count... o/ o/ Tip's like count is a direct measure of the amount of emotional poster butt hurt he's caused  Like count on EVE forums is more like a high school popularity contest... you're either one of the cool kids or you're not
Something something .... That's what the unliked/known say
:jk couldn't resist.
Real post: good job team security.
I'm right behind you |
Rankan
State War Academy
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:06:00 -
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CCP Peligro wrote:
All in all, we've banned roughly 30,000 bots since the beginning of 2013
So your really saying 30,000 accounts have been banned.
Do you have numbers on how many were paid accounts and how many were 14 or 21 day trials? Seeing the number of Ventures, I suspect there are a lot of trial accounts being used.
Oh and Good Work btw. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3283
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Posted - 2014.07.29 01:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:That's like saying Eminem sold more records than the grateful dead because he's a better musician. So you're saying I should become a very thin front for an LSD distribution business? e: Wtfspelling?!
You should become a very thin front for an LSD distribution business.
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
691
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Posted - 2014.07.29 01:39:00 -
[35] - Quote
Your graph is missing the absolute most important numbers: PLEX on banned accounts.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3283
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Posted - 2014.07.29 01:44:00 -
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Samantha Floyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:CCP Peligro wrote: That 5-digit-liked posts count... o/ o/ Tip's like count is a direct measure of the amount of emotional poster butt hurt he's caused Like count on EVE forums is more like a high school popularity contest... you're either one of the cool kids or you're not
well yes , one ither "gets" eve or one does not.
problem?
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
--áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
693
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Posted - 2014.07.29 01:51:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Samantha Floyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:CCP Peligro wrote: That 5-digit-liked posts count... o/ o/ Tip's like count is a direct measure of the amount of emotional poster butt hurt he's caused Like count on EVE forums is more like a high school popularity contest... you're either one of the cool kids or you're not well yes , one ither "gets" eve or one does not. problem?
Yeeaah
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3285
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Posted - 2014.07.29 02:18:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Samantha Floyd wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:CCP Peligro wrote: That 5-digit-liked posts count... o/ o/ Tip's like count is a direct measure of the amount of emotional poster butt hurt he's caused Like count on EVE forums is more like a high school popularity contest... you're either one of the cool kids or you're not well yes , one ither "gets" eve or one does not. problem? Yeeaah
Yeeaah
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
--áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.07.29 02:24:00 -
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i really had no idea that the amounts of isk were so high.
good info, cheers |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3286
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Posted - 2014.07.29 02:36:00 -
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actual question, in graphs , where TF does the republic of Ireland fit?
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out."
-Omar Alharazaad
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
--áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Epic Rupture
Riot Industries
10
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Posted - 2014.07.29 03:00:00 -
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So, where does IsBoxer fall in this? And please don't give the "We don't recommend you use it" response. People are using it and we need this to be clarified. I know people who use it and they think it should be banned. That's reason enough for me. |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
778
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Posted - 2014.07.29 03:57:00 -
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Epic Rupture wrote:So, where does IsBoxer fall in this? And please don't give the "We don't recommend you use it" response. People are using it and we need this to be clarified. I know people who use it and they think it should be banned. That's reason enough for me.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1291641&page=10#274
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2743356#post2743356
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2750884#post2750884
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Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
595
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Posted - 2014.07.29 04:01:00 -
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Thank you for these pretty numbers and graphs 
Keep fighting the good fight 
And could someone, please sticky this (at least for a while)?
o.0 |
Masao Kurata
Z List
71
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Posted - 2014.07.29 04:07:00 -
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I want to believe that you're fighting the war against bots but it's hard to when completely obvious bots continue operating months after multiple detailed reports of the precise behaviour which proves that they cannot possibly be controlled by a human. It often feels like you just don't care about the bots and value botter subscription fees over making sure the only bots in the game are red crosses.
I don't know what kind of response I'm looking for, maybe an acknowledgement that you need to improve your logs? If we can tell beyond a shadow of a doubt that a ship (or, as often the case, a pod) is being flown by a bot and you claim that you can't, something is wrong and I really hope that it's not apathy. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3342
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Posted - 2014.07.29 04:17:00 -
[45] - Quote
Yeah, sounds more and more like "the war on drugs".
So you keep hammering the buyer.
How about posting explicit data on how many sellers you nailed, and the value of that chunk of ISK?
How about their ingame affiliations?
Until we get full transparency on who you nailed, this kind of stuff is just more propaganda. |
Delta Tremor
Tremor Recorded
Variable Enterprise Training Standards
9
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Posted - 2014.07.29 04:45:00 -
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ISK buyers - if they missed the point on strike two, they will still have the drive for strike three, thus wasting CCP's and player's time.
Strike One - Seize ISK 10 day ban, 10% skills reduction
Strike Two - Seize all assets, cancel and seize all sell orders and contracts, PERMANENT BANHAMMER!
Don't tolerate those who think breaking the rules is worth trying to get away with it.
Set up stings on sites that sell ISK or Items - look for things which connect gamers with the selling sites
Sell sites ISK and Items at low prices that disappear after so many hours/ change of hands - ruin their reps with faulty products.
Look at fan sites that have adverts for selling sites
Closely look at all sites that sell ISK or advertise for other sites that sell ISK Put a cheating collaboration clause in the contract which your lawyers can word to overcome the First Amendment screamers When you cut off a site which carries a link to a site which enablers others to cheat, you are not limiting that site's First Amendment rights. Don't let a reseller of PLEX advertise for ISK sellers or have links to sites that have adverts for sellers.
30k bans in 2013 - Great! Now that you've skimmed the surface, DIG DEEP!! |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1990
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Posted - 2014.07.29 04:58:00 -
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If someone is renting null systems and ends up getting banned for RMT/Botting, does the ISK they paid to the landlord get removed?
If not, perhaps it should be?
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1990
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Posted - 2014.07.29 05:02:00 -
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Delta Tremor wrote:ISK buyers - if they missed the point on strike two, they will still have the drive for strike three, thus wasting CCP's and player's time.
The problem with going all crazy on the ISK buyers is that in a vast majority of MMOs out there ISK buyers are never banned, or even reprimanded. Removing the ISK is fine, but quick to ban might not be the best idea.
Even the smartest dog needs to be told a few times to learn new tricks.
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Delta Tremor
Tremor Recorded
Variable Enterprise Training Standards
9
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Posted - 2014.07.29 06:02:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Delta Tremor wrote:ISK buyers - if they missed the point on strike two, they will still have the drive for strike three, thus wasting CCP's and player's time.
The problem with going all crazy on the ISK buyers is that in a vast majority of MMOs out there ISK buyers are never banned, or even reprimanded. Removing the ISK is fine, but quick to ban might not be the best idea. Even the smartest dog needs to be told a few times to learn new tricks.
Use cap letters to drive home the policy in trial and new accounts and a good explanation on strike one with a very firm description of what strike two brings.
Go ahead and change it back to three strikes when there is incontrovertible evidence proving the smartest dogs are now playing Eve. |
2pt
Tremor Recorded
Variable Enterprise Training Standards
33
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Posted - 2014.07.29 06:52:00 -
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OK - scamming is legal...
But SPAMMING IS NOT! So, am I the only one who petitions the exactly 30 second interval scammer for spamming? |
Anthar Thebess
615
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Posted - 2014.07.29 06:53:00 -
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Why you don't implement silver bullet for RMT alliances.
If at given time from one alliance to many people is banned for RMT - they get warning .
If nothing changes - alliance is disbanded.
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Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
249
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:25:00 -
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One fact over all of them jumped off the screen.....
Moldova has interwebz
I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12543
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
Sentamon wrote:Delta Tremor wrote:ISK buyers - if they missed the point on strike two, they will still have the drive for strike three, thus wasting CCP's and player's time.
The problem with going all crazy on the ISK buyers is that in a vast majority of MMOs out there ISK buyers are never banned, or even reprimanded. Removing the ISK is fine, but quick to ban might not be the best idea. Even the smartest dog needs to be told a few times to learn new tricks.
They are people and know they are cheating. The clubbing they get is perfectly fine
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
12484
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Posted - 2014.07.29 08:03:00 -
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Wonder how much of those spambots are really RMT related. And for spambots please just mute them on strike 1 so they can keep spamming being unaware of it and keep paying their subs.
/c
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12543
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Posted - 2014.07.29 08:06:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Wonder how much of those spambots are really RMT related. And for spambots please just mute them on strike 1 so they can keep spamming being unaware of it and keep paying their subs.
/c
You sly dog you.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1991
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Posted - 2014.07.29 08:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sentamon wrote:Delta Tremor wrote:ISK buyers - if they missed the point on strike two, they will still have the drive for strike three, thus wasting CCP's and player's time.
The problem with going all crazy on the ISK buyers is that in a vast majority of MMOs out there ISK buyers are never banned, or even reprimanded. Removing the ISK is fine, but quick to ban might not be the best idea. Even the smartest dog needs to be told a few times to learn new tricks. They are people and know they are cheating. The clubbing they get is perfectly fine
Unless you're a large alliance engaged in an exploit of epic dimensions, then it's all haha's, a wink, and a pat on the back.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124145
hypocrites, gotta love em
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Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
419
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Posted - 2014.07.29 08:43:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Yeah, sounds more and more like "the war on drugs".
So you keep hammering the buyer.
How about posting explicit data on how many sellers you nailed, and the value of that chunk of ISK?
How about their ingame affiliations?
Until we get full transparency on who you nailed, this kind of stuff is just more propaganda.
I'd like the numbers and alliances they belong to too. Mostly because I suspect that if there were a significant number in the larger alliances, we would probably be better at keeping house than CCP. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out
Overload Everything
209
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Posted - 2014.07.29 10:09:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Wonder how much of those spambots are really RMT related. And for spambots please just mute them on strike 1 so they can keep spamming being unaware of it and keep paying their subs.
/c
when is the next jita local analysis?
i remember the day jita was silent.....or at least not a constant stream of isk doubling, i think if you post another they might sweep the system clean again. |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
780
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Posted - 2014.07.29 10:22:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Yeah, sounds more and more like "the war on drugs".
So you keep hammering the buyer.
How about posting explicit data on how many sellers you nailed, and the value of that chunk of ISK?
How about their ingame affiliations?
Until we get full transparency on who you nailed, this kind of stuff is just more propaganda. I'd like the numbers and alliances they belong to too. Mostly because I suspect that if there were a significant number in the larger alliances, we would probably be better at keeping house than CCP.
I suspect a significant proportion would be in NPC corps, how would we go about keeping house then?
Would you adjust that figure so it is a % of the population, or just go on a witchhunt based on raw numbers?
"Oh, this alliance has 10 RMTers, they are fine, this other alliance has 100, burn them with fire" or
"Oh, this alliance has 10/12 members RMTing, this other alliance has 100/3000, perhaps we should burn the 10 members"
Finally, @Dinsdale, whilst CCP Pelligro did say the ban duration related to buyers, are you actually suggesting that sellers go free whilst buyers get banned?, because that would be a Guiness Book worthy feat of stretching, even for a nimble trained acrobat such as yourself.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3343
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:06:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Arkady Romanov wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Yeah, sounds more and more like "the war on drugs".
So you keep hammering the buyer.
How about posting explicit data on how many sellers you nailed, and the value of that chunk of ISK?
How about their ingame affiliations?
Until we get full transparency on who you nailed, this kind of stuff is just more propaganda. I'd like the numbers and alliances they belong to too. Mostly because I suspect that if there were a significant number in the larger alliances, we would probably be better at keeping house than CCP. I suspect a significant proportion would be in NPC corps, how would we go about keeping house then? Alliances without the information on names would be no better at keeping house than now. Do we trust Eve players to adjust that figure so it is a % of the population, or just go on a witchhunt based on raw numbers? "Oh, this alliance has 10 RMTers, they are fine, this other alliance has 100, burn them with fire" or "Oh, this alliance has 10/12 members RMTing, this other alliance has 100/3000, perhaps we should burn the 10 members" Finally, @Dinsdale, whilst CCP Pelligro did say the ban duration related to buyers, are you actually suggesting that sellers go free whilst buyers get banned?, because that would be a Guiness Book worthy feat of stretching, even for a nimble trained acrobat such as yourself.
All I can say is that whenever CCP champions how wonderful they are in their "kill the RMT'ers" PR campaigns, the majority of their verbage is about buyers. Every transaction has a buyer and a seller. And if RMT economics is anything like any other illicit economy, there are a heluva lot more buyers in the market than sellers. Nailing sellers would shrink RMT activity faster than nailing buyers.
And outing BOTH sides would do wonders for credibility. |
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