For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.


Edit: For any miners wanting advice on how not to become a statistic, ask questions in New Citizens Q&A about how to keep your Venture safe. I or other people will give you advice.

For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.


Edit: For any miners wanting advice on how not to become a statistic, ask questions in New Citizens Q&A about how to keep your Venture safe. I or other people will give you advice.

For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.

And USA is at top place of list of IPs used by banned accounts but I don't see any antiUSA CODE initiatives. At least be more creative when finding excuses for this sh!t.

1 plex for 30 days of killing ventures? surely code could spare a better prize than 1 plex

Greetings Esteemed Community!

Code is proud to present a competition running in August to the pilot who can kill the most ventures in High Sec!

A plex will be given to the player who can kill the most Ventures in High Sec starting from the 1st of August through to the 31st of August.

Rules!

1. Venture Pilots must be unique and different players.

2. Kills must be made in High Security Space (1.0 - 0.5)

3. Anyone can participate - You do not need to be a member of the Code Alliance or The New Order.

Prizes -

1st place - A 30 day Pilot license extension

2nd place - Rattlesnake Hull

BONUS!!!! -

As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!

(The Venture Pilot must not be biomassed at the end of the competition etc)

Screenshot the age of the pilot along with the killmail and employment history of the pilot to loyalanon with the title - Youngest Venture Pilot killer - XXXX (x's are pilots name)

I look forward to another round of content creation for Eve online courtesy of Code Alliance.

1 plex for 30 days of killing ventures? surely code could spare a better prize than 1 plex

Code - making a big deal out of the easiest kills in new Eden.

Pathetic.

As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!

Why dont you offer something to go along with first prize?

Wow , a WHOLE plex .

Anyone got a decent Venture fit?

Thinking DCU 2, Med extender, couple of Invul hardners. Maybe Neuts in high & ECM drones? Would that survive long enough for Concord to show up?

Don't sound like much of a contest.

Month long, cheap prizes and easy prey.


No wonder people like to laugh at CODE

Don't sound like much of a contest.

Month long, cheap prizes and easy prey.


No wonder people like to laugh at CODE

This part is idiotic.

The rest, I hope you all have fun with it.

The encouragement to specifically target new players, that's just dumb.

Youngest ganker killing a Venture, not youngest Venture pilot

Let the tears begin !!!

Youngest ganker killing a Venture, not youngest Venture pilot

Oh, come on now, don't let reading comprehension get in the way of a good witch hunt.

Except that both readings are equally possible and were considered.

Youngest (venture pilot) killer, or (youngest venture pilot) killer.

New Order. The nerdy kids who were bullied in high school and now resort to bullying anyone who can't fight back in a video game to feel tough.

Very impressive champ. Pat yourself on the back and get yourself a cookie.

Oh, come on now, don't let reading comprehension get in the way of a good witch hunt.

That way I don't multibox my way into a free prize, I imagine.

Make an alt, kill my own venture with said alt after a few hours.

This is what code do.
And look around, were all massive nerds you numbnuts.

James did not post it after all. This was an initiative proposed and funded by an individual CODE member.

Fortunately we have a couple of days to work out the particulars.

New Order. The nerdy kids who were bullied in high school and now resort to bullying anyone who can't fight back in a video game to feel tough.

Very impressive champ. Pat yourself on the back and get yourself a cookie.

Brb, need to go find it.

Edit: found it.

The only way this game could be nerdier is if our avatars were all anime and rode sparkly unicorns.

Anyone calling blowing up internet spaceships bullying needs a reality check, and denigrates victims of actual bullying. Grow the eff up.

I guess you don't get the irony of playing a spaceship based MMO and posting on an internet forum about it, while calling other people nerds. Everyone here is a nerd, bro. The only way this game could be nerdier is if our avatars were all anime and rode sparkly unicorns.

Anyone got a decent Venture fit?

Thinking DCU 2, Med extender, couple of Invul hardners. Maybe Neuts in high & ECM drones? Would that survive long enough for Concord to show up?

Sorry OP. I see no challenge in ganking Ventures.

I like to play this game to have fun, not to ruin other peoples fun

It would be funny however if all the Ventures near starting areas were to have someone looking after them. Or a system police other than concord. (because obviously all the people looking for venture kills will go to a system near the starting zones.)

Even better, a gank the gankers "alliance".
Obviously.. since "CODE" is already established. Maybe the name should be something more like... De-CODE...

Just to keep things interesting for both sides.
Not going against CODE of course *shiver* but just to make sure you guys or anyone joining in this "competition" doesn't get too bored while doing so

It's all about fun in the end!

Even better, a gank the gankers "alliance".
Obviously.. since "CODE" is already established. Maybe the name should be something more like... De-CODE...

yeah, the problem is that they are doing their gimmick (anti-ganking) out of anger (or whatever feeling), with the sole intention to allow their ranks to go back to "ignore everything and pretend that EVE is single-player".

The statistic merely shows that a large number of bots get culled before they mature into exhumer pilots.

Sorry, I find mining more fun then this. That's how leet I am!

You are the one who needs a reality check.

There are real people playing this game,
many with abaolutely real and absolutely questionable personalities.


You can talk against it all you want and still the fact remains
that your silly group is attracting those who love to pick on others.

You can twist it all you want, but a personality is NEVER detachable from
what it does, even when simply playing a game! The fact that people have fun
picking on others MUST mean that there is something in their personality
THAT MAKES IT FUN FOR THEM!

These people are on BOTH sides on the equation...
... but your side is the one actively recruiting it.

I can't wait for your response! I have six options what you
will reply roughly and you will most likely pick one of them.
We already made bets here about that! XD

Don't let me down, i can win 50 bucks. (:

Feel free to establish one, but the difficulties of doing so are well documented.

2. Kills must be made in High Security Space (1.0 - 0.5)

...... The only way this game could be nerdier is if our avatars were all anime and rode sparkly unicorns.

Anyone calling blowing up internet spaceships bullying needs a reality check, and denigrates victims of actual bullying. Grow the eff up.

I guess you don't get the irony of playing a spaceship based MMO and posting on an internet forum about it, while calling other people nerds. Everyone here is a nerd, bro. The only way this game could be nerdier is if our avatars were all anime and rode sparkly unicorns.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.

You are the one who needs a reality check.

There are real people playing this game,
many with abaolutely real and absolutely questionable personalities.


You can talk against it all you want and still the fact remains
that your silly group is attracting those who love to pick on others.

You can twist it all you want, but a personality is NEVER detachable from
what it does, even when simply playing a game! The fact that people have fun
picking on others MUST mean that there is something in their personality
THAT MAKES IT FUN FOR THEM!

These people are on BOTH sides on the equation...
... but your side is the one actively recruiting it.

I can't wait for your response! I have six options what you
will reply roughly and you will most likely pick one of them.
We already made bets here about that! XD

Don't let me down, i can win 50 bucks. (:

And USA is at top place of list of IPs used by banned accounts but I don't see any antiUSA CODE initiatives. At least be more creative when finding excuses for this sh!t.

You can twist it all you want, but a personality is NEVER detachable from
what it does, even when simply playing a game! The fact that people have fun
picking on others MUST mean that there is something in their personality
THAT MAKES IT FUN FOR THEM!

Can someone show me where it says that code are going to target rookie systems?

Code probably won't, but some other idiot will.

of course they wont
that would require taking risks



which is the same reason they continuously ignore all the ratting bots out in null

Can you provide me with some evidence to show that code has ever cared about null sec?

Anyone calling blowing up internet spaceships bullying needs a reality check, and denigrates victims of actual bullying. Grow the eff up.

I guess you don't get the irony of playing a spaceship based MMO and posting on an internet forum about it, while calling other people nerds. Everyone here is a nerd, bro. The only way this game could be nerdier is if our avatars were all anime and rode sparkly unicorns.

As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!

(The Venture Pilot must not be biomassed at the end of the competition etc)

Screenshot the age of the pilot along with the killmail and employment history of the pilot to loyalanon with the title - Youngest Venture Pilot killer - XXXX (x's are pilots name)

Personally, I have disliked Ventures ever since I saw the artwork for them, which doesn't fit with the rest of EVE's ship models. Also, they were intended to be used for lowsec/nullsec ninja-mining, but have been abused by people who AFK mine in highsec instead.

I'm a little confused.

The venture is not much a ship for highsec. Why use a venture if you can use something bigger?

Yet the contest is calling for highsec kills of said ship that is designed for hostile space.

Look here.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/179000-1/page/1

Rezard's fit in that thread is alright. Read through all the options (and the bogus options, too).

Edit: ECM drones is an interesting question. Rezard's fit doesn't technically need the Hobs because it can tank any highsec rat. But the ECM drones being helpful are a function of what you're able to interrupt in a gank. My opinion is the Venture is better off always aligned (which you should do anyway) and warping (un-preventable by a lone Cat pilot). The Hobs let you collect some meager bounty which isn't inconsequential for a rookie pilot (which interestingly you're not).

Even better, a gank the gankers "alliance".
Obviously.. since "CODE" is already established. Maybe the name should be something more like... De-CODE...

Even better, a gank the gankers "alliance".
Obviously.. since "CODE" is already established. Maybe the name should be something more like... De-CODE...

My question is why the second prize is better than the first hmmm...

Scumbag Capsuleer:
"Cries about CODE. sanctioned event that involves ganking ventures. Does nothing to save said pilots."

Perhaps a month long competition supported by you Venture sympathizers which involves:

- Most prevented ganks
- Most kills on -10 pilots in High-Sec
- Most ECM on -10 pilots

I believe Astecus tried something like this for a while but he is just one man. Perhaps you bears need less words and more actions.

I'd also like to point out that assuming a noob is ganked in a Venture, it's a way better loss than if we hit their Exhumer down the line because no one cared to inform them that we or others like us exist. I'm certain there are early game missions that provide you with 10+ Ventures. This thread full of tears is just further proof that we are the only ones who truly care about the fate of High-Sec.

High-Sec belongs to us, friends. You've already lost. At this point you're all just an audience so just sit back and enjoy.

The Code always wins

High-Sec belongs to us, friends. You've already lost. At this point you're all just an audience so just sit back and enjoy.

Scumbag Capsuleer:
"Cries about CODE. sanctioned event that involves ganking ventures. Does nothing to save said pilots."

Perhaps a month long competition supported by you Venture sympathizers which involves:

- Most prevented ganks
- Most kills on -10 pilots in High-Sec
- Most ECM on -10 pilots

I believe Astecus tried something like this for a while but he is just one man. Perhaps you bears need less words and more actions.

I'd also like to point out that assuming a noob is ganked in a Venture, it's a way better loss than if we hit their Exhumer down the line because no one cared to inform them that we or others like us exist. I'm certain there are early game missions that provide you with 10+ Ventures. This thread full of tears is just further proof that we are the only ones who truly care about the fate of High-Sec.

High-Sec belongs to us, friends. You've already lost. At this point you're all just an audience so just sit back and enjoy.

The Code always wins

How about a contest where we see how many kills New Order can get if they only attacked ships that can actually fight back?

I will throw in ISK for that contest.

Ok well that is lame. The whole point of a fight is to fight unfairly, that way you win. Fighting something that doesn't fight back seems like good strategy.

You know what else is not a fight and not fun? Mining. Oh and indie crap.

Yet players pay subs and log on all the time to do these things.

Perhaps you shouldn't try and judge what is and is not fun for others.

I'm not judging...but shooting a mining frigate isn't combat. And it's not a fight no matter how hard you close your eyes and wish it to be.

It's like punching babies in the face and laughing at them when they start to cry.

Some people seem to enjoy it.

What is wrong with you. It is not anymore like punching a baby in the face than its water boarding Obama.

Its effing venture's for gods sake. With a warp core strength of 2. This is a *game* where you get to shoot other space ships.

If you don't like games where people shoot other people in space ships, then perhaps eve is not for you.

As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!

How about a contest where we see how many kills New Order can get if they only attacked ships that can actually fight back?

Besides freighters & jump freighters, name me a ship that New Order people like to shoot that cannot fight back.

People Die, Antigankers Cry and the Code just keeps on Winning!



Be a part of the content creation this August!

Shuttles and pods


So can i donate prizes or do I just wait for the contest to end then hope I get them to the right people?

Alright one venture for last place contracted.

People Die, Antigankers Cry and the Code just keeps on Winning!



Be a part of the content creation this August!

People Die, Antigankers Cry and the Code just keeps on Winning!



Be a part of the content creation this August!

Lol my name. I hope CCP lets me keep it.

I fully support this awesome and fun idea.

I dare say I'll pass the message along. BTW, can groups participate, or is it just individuals?

Why does code continue to let you speak for them?

I fully support this awesome and fun idea.

I dare say I'll pass the message along. BTW, can groups participate, or is it just individuals?

How about a contest where we see how many kills New Order can get if they only attacked ships that can actually fight back?

I will throw in ISK for that contest.

This part is idiotic.

The rest, I hope you all have fun with it.

The encouragement to specifically target new players, that's just dumb.

No you just line up and shoot muskets at people who dont even know what a musket is

This sir, is eve. I'm sure we'll make our way into murdering mission ships sooner rather than later and then you'll be back once more crying about how they're PVE ships.

Perspective in this game is huge and from here it looks like this glass is half full of your tears.

The Code always wins.

I shoot ships all the time. I love PvP even though PvP doesn't seem to love me back .. haha. I'll get the hang of it in time

The relevance of this competition is just... I don't know. I just don't see the point in shooting ventures. They don't shoot back and to get over the strengthened core you just have to change your fit a bit.

I guess if you're bored.. then go for it. But remember, there are many, many other less mind numbing activities to do in EVE

There doesn't need to be a point. This is a game about shooting spaceships. It is fun to shoot space ships. A Venture is a space ship. End of debate.

There doesn't need to be a point. This is a game about shooting spaceships. It is fun to shoot space ships. A Venture is a space ship. End of debate.

It's the Eve version of the Special Olympics.

As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!

Who are you?

For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.

Man this is horrible conclusion

50% of banned bots who flew ventures doesn't mean that 50% of all venture pilots out there are bots.

Your conclusion is very silly and illogical.

Lets just say that ......(statistically).... 50% of all criminals wears red shirts

By your logic...... 50% of all people who wears red shirt are criminals and needs to be shot down. Yea... even the good ones. And only in secure places (hi-sec)

Such faulty logic is seen only among creationists, AGW deniers or anti-vaxers ffsake !!!

Do you realize that venture is primary mining noob ship?

I always was and always will support serious and reasonable happenings, like Hulkageddon or Burn Jita. But Venture hunt seems like very bad idea based on faulty logic for me

I can guarantee you that most of your Venture kills will be newborns.

This just throw a bad shadow on CODE. So far, CODE has been just clowns of the hisec, bullies and bottom-feeders... But after this venture hunt, they will be newborn killers.... Such "reputation" is bad even in ruthless EVE

Why would you target Ventures? They are only flown by new players in highsec.

Maybe it would make sense if the competition was held in lowsec. But somehow I can't see you doing that.

With this in mind, please be aware that if this event becomes a source of rookie griefing, or begins to take place in and around rookie starting systems where new players are being harassed, then our policies on new player harassment and griefing will come into play.

Now CCP's said that, the questions got to be asked (because a lot seem to be under the impression it was only rookie systems where it was classed as harassing new players) - how far does "around" cover ? because some rookie systems like Kisogo and Chaven are only 2 jumps from Perimeter and Amarr (where lots of things go pop).

Just an idea but maybe sometime in the future there could be a symbol added on the overview next to a pilots name to designate pilots under say a month old ? That way people doing these types of events could clearly see if they were targetting a newer player without having to "show info, check employment history" which might mean they miss a kill or make a mistake when flying around trade hub areas close to rookie systems.

The way I read this is that a PLEX will be awarded to the youngest pilot who takes part in the competition and goes out to kill ventures, rather than the youngest victim that's killed in the event. If this is the case, then there's no problem in my mind.

You should learn more about correlation and causation.

Correlation does not prove causation. However, it does merit further investigation.

The Venture - not the 'AFKtar', not the Thanatos, not a Marauder, not even exhumers - is the most commonly banned botting ship in EVE. There are a wide variety of possibilities as to why. But it is an undeniable fact that a large number of people set up trial accounts, train them into Ventures, and run bots on them in the safety of highsec.

As for newbies -.... what's the big deal? ....

....Being shot at early in a fight where I couldn't win, that I could only escape helped me get hooked on EVE.

Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.

well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code

Well.....yeah.... but seriously.... VENTURES ? .......its noob mining frigate ffsake... You cant go lower that this ...well...you can. .....Possible "Rookie ship kills competition" is lower

well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code

Holy ****, one of those Ventures was lugging a PLEX around.

Every time I see this I consider myself lucky to be too paranoid for doing something so dumb. You can activate a PLEX from the other side of New Eden, for heaven's sake! There should never be a situation where you're forced to do this.

But really how young is a young player? How many are old players training up alts. etc.

Also ventures are not just for newbs. We used them all the time in the WHs and what other ships get cloud harvesting bonus?

This.


And this.

I'd hazard to guess half the Ventures you encounter beyond rookie areas are in fact alts of older players. Ventures are also very common in wormholes, not so sure about low/null but I suspect they see just as much use there too.

But why would someone mine veldspar in a venture on their alt? And if they knew about a better use for ventures, why would they be mining in high sec at all?

Need to mine something while your new alt is skilling up. But honestly if I had an ISK for everytime I saw someone do something terribly inefficient or just plain silly in EVE I'd never need to PLEX again.

The better question is though why would you come to a 0.5 system to mine Veldspar in the first place?

Answer is they're usually not mining Veldspar.

Over half of the venture kills in high sec are of players less than a week old. There's no way all of those are alts, and if that doesn't constitute rookie griefing then I don't know what does.

Over half of the venture kills in high sec are of players less than a week old. There's no way all of those are alts, and if that doesn't constitute rookie griefing then I don't know what does.

Yeah, looks like this event is causing a bunch of rookie griefing. You may not "support" it but you sure are encouraging it.

Can you provide me with some evidence to show that code has ever cared about null sec?

This.


And this.

I'd hazard to guess half the Ventures you encounter beyond rookie areas are in fact alts of older players. Ventures are also very common in wormholes, not so sure about low/null but I suspect they see just as much use there too.

The New Orders links to the Nullsec botting overlords is well documented.

But as for 'evidence' that 'code' ever cared about Nullsec? Well there are the continaul references to the Mittani and the goons. Its as though they have some significant influence on the New Order. Btw did I mention James 315 is an goon?