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Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 18:46:00 -
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I'm looking for planets in High which have reasonable tax rates (<10%) in their POCOs .
Is anyone willing to name a few?
Since there seems to be no way to look it up via API or something like that. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:28:00 -
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1. Join a Player Corp.
2. Blow up a POCO and replace it with your own.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Ginger Barbarella
1981
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:36:00 -
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There are a few, and the whole incestuous RvB/Goonie thing out near the Forge/Citadel claims good rates if you have the skill trained to L5. There are also a few scattered around, but don't count on the good planets (plasma) being cheap in high sec. I do all mine in low, and pay 9% for my laziness.
I actually came across a few planets that had no POCOs in Domain yesterday. Odd, but maybe I hit them between them going BOOM and someone putting up new towers.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
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Posted - 2014.07.31 00:09:00 -
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Don't PI in highsec, go to lowsec, besides I've never found a private POCO in high or low with a tax of over 10%. Try being locked out at a tax of 100% in Syndicate, not very fun 
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
erg cz
Sliperer
103
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Posted - 2014.07.31 08:51:00 -
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In high sec you do not need POCO. If you produce T2 components, you are lucky if you can produce 500 M3 in two days. Cause planets are not that rich. And to get 500 m3 all you need is a command center. No taxes at all.
Of cause if you goal is to make a factory planet, then you need to check Dotlan for low jump count and high planet count systems. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
215
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Posted - 2014.07.31 11:22:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Don't PI in highsec, go to lowsec, besides I've never found a private POCO in high or low with a tax of over 10%. Try being locked out at a tax of 100% in Syndicate, not very fun
FYI: I was looking for WT POCOs near Amarr recently and found quite a few as high as 20%. But, yeah, still doesn't make hisec PI really worth it, going through a POCO or not, really worth it.
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Alexander Eisenhower
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:35:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:1. Join a Player Corp.
2. Blow up a POCO and replace it with your own.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Ummm, dont you have to wardec the owner corp first? That kinda shitz on the profit margin for like a year, lol |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:40:00 -
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Alexander Eisenhower wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:1. Join a Player Corp.
2. Blow up a POCO and replace it with your own.
3. ???
4. Profit. Ummm, dont you have to wardec the owner corp first? That kinda shitz on the profit margin for like a year, lol
You raise a potentially valid point about profits. Two things to consider though:
1. You may well end up getting taxes from other players using the planet.
2. How do you put a pricetag on the enjoyment of controlling your own exports? 
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Vartan Sarkisian
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
160
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Posted - 2014.07.31 14:59:00 -
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The yield alone makes hi-sec PI not worth it I think..
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. |
Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:23:00 -
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Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.01 00:20:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit.
There are five POCOs in Luminaire with a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing. |
erg cz
Sliperer
104
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:25:00 -
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Vartan Sarkisian wrote:The yield alone makes hi-sec PI not worth it I think..
Thats why ppl tends to use high sec planets for factory installations, not for extraction.
But even with low yield high sec extractors make profit on day 3. Of cause very low profit comparing to what you get in low sec, but it is also low maintanence activity. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:44:00 -
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Satyr Ersatz wrote:Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit. All 8 POCOs in Luminaire have a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing.
You forgot a 1 off that number...11%. I just passed through that way.
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Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.01 08:50:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Satyr Ersatz wrote:Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit. All 8 POCOs in Luminaire have a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing. You forgot a 1 off that number...11%. I just passed through that way.
I did not - the POCOs in Luminaire have 1% player tax. The overall tax for you, personally, is 11% because you don't have customs code expertise trained. Each level of customs code expertise will knock the NPC component of the tax down until, at level 5, the overall tax hits a minimum of 6% (5% for the NPCs and 1% for the player).
Unless you belong to a POCO-owning corporation or alliance, you will not find a lower player tax (and, by extension, a lower overall POCO tax) in all of high sec. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2014.08.01 10:28:00 -
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Satyr Ersatz wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:Satyr Ersatz wrote:Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Thx for the replies and mails.
Trying to shoot spots for my own POCOs doesn't sounds like there will be a return of investment in the near future. You have to keep in mind that you need a mercenary for it or you have field your own fleet + wardec cost, replacement POCOs and so on. There is also no guarantee that you will ever hold them long enough to break even or make actual profit. All 8 POCOs in Luminaire have a 1% player corporation tax. If you have rank 5 customs code expertise the total tax will be 6%. And it's pretty close to a couple of trade hubs if factory planets are your thing. You forgot a 1 off that number...11%. I just passed through that way. I did not - the POCOs in Luminaire have 1% player tax. The overall tax for you, personally, is 11% because you don't have customs code expertise trained. Each level of customs code expertise will knock the NPC component of the tax down until, at level 5, the overall tax hits a minimum of 6% (5% for the NPCs and 1% for the player). Unless you belong to a POCO-owning corporation or alliance, you will not find a lower player tax (and, by extension, a lower overall POCO tax) in all of high sec. edit: Someone could, I suppose, be operating high sec POCOs at 0% player tax as a charity, but I highly doubt it.
Point taken mate, I just went on another character with customs code at lvl 3 and it was down to 8%. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.01 10:29:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:
Point taken mate, I just went on another character with customs code at lvl 3 and it was down to 8%. Thanks for pointing that out.
Not a problem. :) |
Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.03 19:37:00 -
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erg cz wrote:In high sec you do not need POCO. If you produce T2 components, you are lucky if you can produce 500 M3 in two days. Cause planets are not that rich. And to get 500 m3 all you need is a command center. No taxes at all.
Just checked that out.
My first export was via a Lunchpad -> Planetary Export Tax around 280.000 ISK.
I did a 2nd export today with the lunch facility of the Command Center and that took nearly 360.000 ISK, though the exported volume was lower than the first time.
The taxes at the POCO weren't changed during that time frame.
So the Command Center is more expensive than the Lunchpad. The profit margin in Highsec is small enough. I think i'll stick with the Lunchpad.
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Ms Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.03 22:12:00 -
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Don't do PI in high sec. Get a cloaky hauler like a Viator. Fit it with inertia stabs and nanofibres in low and a cloak in high and cargo rig it. There are no bubbles in low sec and it's very difficult to lose your ship as long as you take care with your choice of planets and check local when you go to your POCO. Make safe points with a ceptor beforehand; somewhere to warp to and cloak up if you don't fancy docking (also make an insta-undock at any stations you use just in case).
I honestly have no idea why people do PI in high sec or why given the terrible rates anyone would bother wasting their money anchoring their own POCOs.
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Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.04 16:32:00 -
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Well, it's a kind of experiment. Maybe a bit tedious. But you need some objective within EVE. Mine for the next months will be to generate enough ISK via PI in Highsec to move to Lowsec or Providence including some more skills, cloak hauler, new command centers and so on. Maybe 150 to 200 million ISK. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.05 14:47:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:Well, it's a kind of experiment. Maybe a bit tedious. But you need some objective within EVE. Mine for the next months will be to generate enough ISK via PI in Highsec to move to Lowsec or Providence including some more skills, cloak hauler, new command centers and so on. Maybe 150 to 200 million ISK.
If you're willing to take the plunge, I'm sharing J104335 with three other corporations, and they are open to bringing more in right now. It's PI rich with a high sec static, and you can easily clear 1 billion ISK each month with characters from a single account. we're active in the WH at all times, so aside from the occasional cloaker it's relatively safe, and the POCO tax is set at 4%, with no other rents. If you're interested send me an email and I'll run the idea of bringing you in past the other corporations. |
Gor Yo
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.07 12:53:00 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:I'm looking for planets in High which have reasonable tax rates (<10%) in their POCOs .
Is anyone willing to name a few?
Since there seems to be no way to look it up via API or something like that.
10% is what Interbus takes in addition to player corp tax, so you wont find anything less than 10%, unless you train tax code skill high enough. |
Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
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Posted - 2014.08.07 12:53:39 -
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Alain Gainsbourg wrote:I'm looking for planets in High which have reasonable tax rates (<10%) in their POCOs .
Is anyone willing to name a few?
Since there seems to be no way to look it up via API or something like that.
10% is what Interbus takes in addition to player corp tax, so you wont find anything less than 10%, unless you train tax code skill high enough. |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:38:00 -
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Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low. |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:38:48 -
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Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:52:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low.
Better yet - wormhole space. |
Satyr Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:52:59 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Don't do PI in hisec. Live a little and head into low.
Better yet - wormhole space. |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.08 15:30:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Don't PI in highsec, go to lowsec, besides I've never found a private POCO in high or low with a tax of over 10%. Try being locked out at a tax of 100% in Syndicate, not very fun
Yup. I wouldn't bother with high-sec PI. Low-sec is much more profitable with only slightly more risk. And there are planets with 0-5% taxes too. |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.08 15:30:54 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Don't PI in highsec, go to lowsec, besides I've never found a private POCO in high or low with a tax of over 10%. Try being locked out at a tax of 100% in Syndicate, not very fun
Yup. I wouldn't bother with high-sec PI. Low-sec is much more profitable with only slightly more risk. And there are planets with 0-5% taxes too. |
Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:03:00 -
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Just a short Update on my experiment after about 14 days.
All planetary management skills are maxed. Without implants that would take about 102 days to max all 5.
So far i set up 2 colonies.
invesment:
skills - 9.750.000 ISK
colonies - 16.000.000 ISK
generated income:
1st colony - 7.870.000 ISK
2nd colony - 9.553.000 ISK
wallet: -8.327.000 ISK
Note:
I just started this and may not produce the best P2 products on my 2 colonies. The setup on the planets may not be the best as well. So beside max skills i'm performing like a new player.
The experiment will move on. |
Alain Gainsbourg
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:03:18 -
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Just a short Update on my experiment after about 14 days.
All planetary management skills are maxed. Without implants that would take about 102 days to max all 5.
So far i set up 2 colonies.
invesment:
skills - 9.750.000 ISK
colonies - 16.000.000 ISK
generated income:
1st colony - 7.870.000 ISK
2nd colony - 9.553.000 ISK
wallet: -8.327.000 ISK
Note:
I just started this and may not produce the best P2 products on my 2 colonies. The setup on the planets may not be the best as well. So beside max skills i'm performing like a new player.
The experiment will move on. |
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