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Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:42:00 - [61] After 3 pages of comments NOBODY has anything intelligent to say about anything. - LOL
ArtemisEntreri	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:46:00 - [62] Originally by: Eltigre After 3 pages of comments I have nothing intelligent to say about anything. - LOL fixed Originally by: Vadoc Trax The only actual players are BoB, everyone else are their alts, and alts of alts. CCP is also BoB.
TheJacko	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:48:00 - [63] lol funny thred
pootii	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:54:00 - [64] these kinda dudes both freak me out and amuse me to no end. good thread, tigre! oh, the old days!
Mineral Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:55:00 - [65] Originally by: Eltigre Yes, but in EVE the missiles are made out of 1's and 0's and they do no real damage to anything. In space, when a bomb explodes there is a small area that contains debris from the materials the bomb was made out of which expands outward from the center of the explosion. On Earth, when a bomb explodes the same thing happens except there is an atmosphere that contains molucules of air and other particles that helps to radiate the explosion outward. Some have asserted that bombs in space do damage differently than on Earth's atmosphere but with a little more thought we can see how a bomb in space would still do a great deal of damage especially if the bomb was packed with enough matter to give the explosion more punch. You still failed to realize that the explosions caused by missiles in the game are not caused by conventional explosives. Gravitons do not require a medium to travel in, plasma is matter itself, EM is the same case as gavitons, and nuclear functions on a variety of levels, primarily the electromagnetic spectrum which as was already stated, is its own medium. And while I realize it's all ones and zeros, you have yet to realize that those ones and zeros function on a physics generator that is very similar to the laws of physics in which we operate. Nothing intelligent to say? I think not. Originally by: Metatron Celestia You can stab, gank, grief, ransom miners, steal from their can, but if you pop their ore can, my gawd there will be hell to pay. Dude, where's my char?
pootii	Posted - 2006.07.09 02:56:00 - [66] Anyway im sure eltigre has a lot of experience blowing up bombs and missiles and space. CCP, I hope you're listening. Get it together, guys. oh, the old days!
Blind Man	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:04:00 - [67] lol i wanna kill this guy too
Mineral Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:09:00 - [68] Originally by: pootii Anyway im sure eltigre has a lot of experience blowing up bombs and missiles and space. CCP, I hope you're listening. Get it together, guys. Like I already said, I'm bored. I just felt like arguing one of the many things he said that was false, rather than purely flame. I like to get a sense of the intellectual level people are taking things on, and so far this guy is doing mediocre at best. Everything else he has said is pure nonsense though... Originally by: Metatron Celestia You can stab, gank, grief, ransom miners, steal from their can, but if you pop their ore can, my gawd there will be hell to pay. Dude, where's my char?
xeom	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:11:00 - [69] Originally by: pootii Anyway im sure eltigre has a lot of experience blowing up bombs and missiles and space. CCP, I hope you're listening. Get it together, guys. I agree,clearly eltigre has a understanding of the game that even surpases the devs.Its unbelievable that the GM's even told him it was legal.How can they he's allready in another platue. I say we start a new religion right now called "eltigreism",clearly some one with this much intelligence needs to be worshiped. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:11:00 - [70] EVE is a cartoon. Cartoon Physics can be bent and shaped to allow any effect one desires. The coyote runs in mid-air because of Cartoon Physics. Missiles in EVE do less damage to small ships because of Cartoon Physics. If you all want to believe big missiles do less damage to small ships in space then by all means believe it - but don't be surprised if reality works differently, especially if I am the one building the missiles. Originally by: Mineral Inquisitor Originally by: Eltigre Yes, but in EVE the missiles are made out of 1's and 0's and they do no real damage to anything. In space, when a bomb explodes there is a small area that contains debris from the materials the bomb was made out of which expands outward from the center of the explosion. On Earth, when a bomb explodes the same thing happens except there is an atmosphere that contains molucules of air and other particles that helps to radiate the explosion outward. Some have asserted that bombs in space do damage differently than on Earth's atmosphere but with a little more thought we can see how a bomb in space would still do a great deal of damage especially if the bomb was packed with enough matter to give the explosion more punch. You still failed to realize that the explosions caused by missiles in the game are not caused by conventional explosives. Gravitons do not require a medium to travel in, plasma is matter itself, EM is the same case as gavitons, and nuclear functions on a variety of levels, primarily the electromagnetic spectrum which as was already stated, is its own medium. And while I realize it's all ones and zeros, you have yet to realize that those ones and zeros function on a physics generator that is very similar to the laws of physics in which we operate. Nothing intelligent to say? I think not.
Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:12:00 - [71] Well pardon the f_ck out of me for trying to engage my brain just a little itty bit. - LOL Originally by: xeom Originally by: pootii Anyway im sure eltigre has a lot of experience blowing up bombs and missiles and space. CCP, I hope you're listening. Get it together, guys. I agree,clearly eltigre has a understanding of the game that even surpases the devs.Its unbelievable that the GM's even told him it was legal.How can they he's allready in another platue. I say we start a new religion right now called "eltigreism",clearly some one with this much intelligence needs to be worshiped.
Franky B	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:13:00 - [72] Originally by: Eltigre Originally by: GPerson I hope to no end that this guy is trying to get us all ***ed off. Actually, that must be it - no one can be this* stupid. I could care less how many of you get p***ed off at little ole me. I am still ROLF over all this ! So you made you little 1's and 0's attack my little 1's and 0's using some NPC 1's and 0's. Who cares ! Soon I will have a nice shiny new set of 1's and 0's and we can do this all over again using nothing but 1's and 0's. ALL OF US ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO PAY FOR NOTHING BUT 1's and 0's - LOL. If you care so little for your "1's and 0's" then why bother posting about it? you got probed and popped, didnt pay ransom (which encourages pirates just to pop on sight instead) and now you're whining about being "exploited" by a (clearly UNDERPOWERED gang) zealot, 2 vexors and a cov ops ship... I think we may have found ourselves a new war target...
xeom	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:14:00 - [73] Originally by: Eltigre Well pardon the f_ck out of me for trying to engage my brain just a little itty bit. - LOL Originally by: xeom Originally by: pootii Anyway im sure eltigre has a lot of experience blowing up bombs and missiles and space. CCP, I hope you're listening. Get it together, guys. I agree,clearly eltigre has a understanding of the game that even surpases the devs.Its unbelievable that the GM's even told him it was legal.How can they he's allready in another platue. I say we start a new religion right now called "eltigreism",clearly some one with this much intelligence needs to be worshiped. Please master im only here to learn,teach me you're ways. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Mineral Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:23:00 - [74] Originally by: Eltigre EVE is a cartoon. Cartoon Physics can be bent and shaped to allow any effect one desires. The coyote runs in mid-air because of Cartoon Physics. Missiles in EVE do less damage to small ships because of Cartoon Physics. If you all want to believe big missiles do less damage to small ships in space then by all means believe it - but don't be surprised if reality works differently, especially if I am the one building the missiles. So you think you can bend the laws of physics to your liking now. You passed the stupid test with flying colors, congratulations. Well, I don't plan on posting here anymore, though I will watch as it's getting quite funny. Have fun evading the various people who will be searching for you in-game. Originally by: Metatron Celestia You can stab, gank, grief, ransom miners, steal from their can, but if you pop their ore can, my gawd there will be hell to pay. Dude, where's my char?
Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:51:00 - [75] Machariel build begins - my cost is less than 40 mil isk ! (This assumes I had everything else less the 40 mil isk.) Obviously the BPC cost something but since I had it already there was no need to pay for it again... It should be noted that I saved 60 mil isk cuz I bought a BPC rather than a prebuilt Machariel but I am sure everybody who reads this will be thinking "DUH" by now. - LOL I just wanted to let everyone know that I am not offended because some of you are thinking I am STUPID. I walked away with isk in my pockets whereas Damien Smith walked away with much less isk in his pockets. The fact that I walked away with more isk than Damien Smith is entertainment enough - well for me anyway. I could care less what happens to me so long as I always walk away with more isk than the other guy. This is why I refuse to pay pirates, believe it or not. "He who walks away with the most isk is the winner." Damien Smith wanted me to pay him what I would have gotten from the insurance. Obviously there is no reason to give-up what I stood to gain. By the time Damien Smith got around to asking for isk my ship was already gone so there was no incentive for me to pay my insurance money to him. Had Damien Smith asked for money BEFORE blowing up any ships I may have given him 20 mil isk but then he would have had to either kill the NPC's that were shooting at me or wait patiently for me to kill them because not killing the NPC's would have resulted in losing my ship. Damien Smith f_cked himself out of an easy 20 mil isk. In my book this makes Damien Smith pretty silly STUPID. I doubt seriously Damien Smith got anything even remotely close to 20 mil isk for his troubles. Sh_t I would pay Damien Smith 20 mil isk per week just to cease playing the game but I doubt seriously he ever thought of making money that way either. Even if it cost me 50 mil isk to replace the T2 mods I lost in the Raven I would still have to replace the Raven which means I needed the insurance money to do that and I would not hesitate to drop another 50 mil isk on the T2 crap I lost in the Raven than went "poof". The mistake most silly STUPID pirates, like Damien Smith, makes is they try to get too greedy. If they asked for 20 mil isk and were nicer about being a pirate they might actually get more isk than "crashing the dinner-party kill the waiters then ask for ransom or they kill the waiters". You must admit, it is pretty STUPID to ask for ransom AFTER the thing you sought to ransom was already dead. Of course "maybe" the implants I was wearing was worth more than 100 mil isk so "maybe" I would be willing to pay that much to keep them but Damien Smith had no way to know this for sure either way. On the other hand, even if I was wearing implants worth 500 mil isk why would I want to pay someone 1/5th their value just to keep them when that person would only return again and again to ask for that same amount repeatedly. Losing the implants was the only way to avoid being a target for such ransom. Hey, Damien Smith, don't be so STUPID and maybe you make more isk. Just a suggestion. I still walked away with the most isk between Damien Smith and myself. Heck, Damien Smith, I might have been willing to pay ya 20 mil isk just to get you to leave me alone had I known you were cloaked close enough to do what you did - assuming I had some "proof" you were on the level. 100 mil isk only invites me to call your bluff, so to speak, but then by that time where was no bluff but I still refused to pay. This is the problem with criminals - criminals are always STUPID. If criminals were not STUPID they would be business people like Ken Lay who was a criminal but is also now DEAD. On the other hand, business people are just really smart criminals who happen to live enough by the law to get away with it. Something to think about... 4 hrs until my Machariel is done !
garishwinner	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:56:00 - [76] Edited by: garishwinner on 09/07/2006 03:57:21 Originally by: Eltigre Machariel build begins - my cost is less than 40 mil isk ! (This assumes I had everything else less the 40 mil isk.) Obviously the BPC cost something but since I had it already there was no need to pay for it again... It should be noted that I saved 60 mil isk cuz I bought a BPC rather than a prebuilt Machariel but I am sure everybody who reads this will be thinking "DUH" by now. - LOL you sir need to learn opertunity cost, simply because you have something, does not mean that using it is free EDIT - lag only posted my quote
Altrex Stoppel	Posted - 2006.07.09 03:57:00 - [77] Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 09/07/2006 04:03:31 Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 09/07/2006 04:01:04 So you're getting your UBER MACH congrats. Wanna give us your set-up for it? Maybe we can get KilRock involved too!...I hope this is fake. Originally by: Eltigre I walked away with isk in my pockets whereas Damien Smith walked away with much less isk in his pockets. I doubt seriously Damien Smith got anything even remotely close to 20 mil isk for his troubles. Even if it cost me 50 mil isk to replace the T2 mods I lost in the Raven I would still have to replace the Raven which means I needed the insurance money to do that and I would not hesitate to drop another 50 mil isk on the T2 crap I lost in the Raven than went "poof". Hey, Damien Smith, don't be so STUPID and maybe you make more isk. Just a suggestion. UUuuuhm Ok. Can someone else read those lines I quoted and see if any of that adds up to him walking away with more isk? Especially the one about 50 mil in mods and im doubting he walked away with 20 mil? Originally by: Mr. Male i leae the leagacy cuz this pain blows me my hair hurts cuz the world hates me and so does the eve and my tears go unwiped cuz i cry tears of sand and milk.
Altrex Stoppel	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:02:00 - [78] Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 09/07/2006 04:02:57 DOUBLE POST Originally by: Mr. Male i leae the leagacy cuz this pain blows me my hair hurts cuz the world hates me and so does the eve and my tears go unwiped cuz i cry tears of sand and milk.
GPerson	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:06:00 - [79] If I ever hear someone say they have faith left in humanity, I'm pointing them to this thread. This is really getting funny now. ~ Originally by: Sarmaul If you're not breaking several laws and putting yourself in mortal danger, you're not having fun.
Altrex Stoppel	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:08:00 - [80] Originally by: GPerson If I ever hear someone say they have faith left in humanity, I'm pointing them to this thread. This is really getting funny now. If the world relied on him to reproduce I hope the women look to monkeys. Originally by: Mr. Male i leae the leagacy cuz this pain blows me my hair hurts cuz the world hates me and so does the eve and my tears go unwiped cuz i cry tears of sand and milk.
ArtemisEntreri	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:23:00 - [81] Originally by: Eltigre Machariel build begins - my cost is less than 40 mil isk ! Ok let's start here, it cost you 40 mill isk? The mins required are above that which means you're only counting the mins you had to buy. Of course the mins you already have are worth something, you're wasting them on this ship instead of selling them for isk meaning you're down 400 mill + mins = 490 mill give or take Originally by: Eltigre Obviously the BPC cost something but since I had it already there was no need to pay for it again... Again this is just silly logic, of course you don't need to pay for it again but resell value or the isk you spent before, you're losing isk by using it. Originally by: Eltigre I walked away with isk in my pockets whereas Damien Smith walked away with much less isk in his pockets. Again, you lost a raven 30 mill if it was insured and then there's the t2 fitting which is around 40. Originally by: Eltigre Had Damien Smith asked for money BEFORE blowing up any ships I may have given him 20 mil isk but then he would have had to either kill the NPC's that were shooting at me or wait patiently for me to kill them because not killing the NPC's would have resulted in losing my ship. I convoed you but when I did you decided to block me. That's when we decided to pop you. And also instead of killing your npc and accepting a convo you decided to try to kill me rather than the npc. Originally by: Eltigre Damien Smith f_cked himself out of an easy 20 mil isk. In my book this makes Damien Smith pretty silly STUPID. I doubt seriously Damien Smith got anything even remotely close to 20 mil isk for his troubles. We got fun and we got 30 mill+ in loot Originally by: Eltigre Even if it cost me 50 mil isk to replace the T2 mods I lost in the Raven I would still have to replace the Raven which means I needed the insurance money to do that and I would not hesitate to drop another 50 mil isk on the T2 crap I lost in the Raven than went "poof". Replace the raven? If you pay the ransom you don't lose the raven at all Originally by: Eltigre The mistake most silly STUPID pirates, like Damien Smith, makes is they try to get too greedy. If they asked for 20 mil isk and were nicer about being a pirate they might actually get more isk than "crashing the dinner-party kill the waiters then ask for ransom or they kill the waiters". You blocked me = you being rude. 20 mill? for a raven? It costs 30 mill to insure mate. Originally by: Eltigre You must admit, it is pretty STUPID to ask for ransom AFTER the thing you sought to ransom was already dead. Of course "maybe" the implants I was wearing was worth more than 100 mil isk so "maybe" I would be willing to pay that much to keep them but Damien Smith had no way to know this for sure either way. On the other hand, even if I was wearing implants worth 500 mil isk why would I want to pay someone 1/5th their value just to keep them when that person would only return again and again to ask for that same amount repeatedly. Losing the implants was the only way to avoid being a target for such ransom. Because then you won't lose them that one time and maybe you'll be more cautious next time? Originally by: Eltigre I still walked away with the most isk between Damien Smith and myself. Yes you had more isk in your wallet afterwards but you lost your raven, which was worth more than the insurance. Originally by: Eltigre Heck, Damien Smith, I might have been willing to pay ya 20 mil isk just to get you to leave me alone had I known you were cloaked close enough to do what you did - assuming I had some "proof" you were on the level. 100 mil isk only invites me to call your bluff, so to speak, but then by that time where was no bluff but I still refused to pay. Why do you keep talking about giving us 20 mill and come around talking about not accepting any ransoms? Originally by: Vadoc Trax The only actual players are BoB, everyone else are their alts, and alts of alts. CCP is also BoB.
Viper ShizzIe	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:36:00 - [82] Edited by: Viper **zIe on 09/07/2006 04:41:22 Originally by: Eltigre But apparently the GM's who operate this game enjoy playing Pirates themselves too much so they favor Pirates in this game. This is why most of the systems in EVE are low-sec space. All the valuable ores are in low-sec space. It is easier to lose sec rating than gain it. CCP loves Piracy, apparently. Originally by: Eltigre BLAH BLAH - I think I am the real winner here anyway ! I get a new ship and you got a little T2 crap. BLAH BLAH BLAH And you got a few T2 trinkets. Crime in EVE pays the victim. Originally by: Eltigre BTW - I am building a Machariel with the insurance isk I got for losing the Raven Want a Cookie?
Sakura Nihil	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:37:00 - [83] Owned .
Nastro Azzura	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:40:00 - [84] Someone hold me, this guy is making me sad. :( -------------------- Looking to join a pirate corp. Contact me for info.
Blind Man	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:53:00 - [85] i cant believe my eyes
Viper ShizzIe	Posted - 2006.07.09 04:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Eltigre Edited by: Eltigre on 09/07/2006 04:46:52 My net worth in-game is in the hundreds of billions with a minimum of 50 bil isk per year and 48 bil isk in liquid assets. Paying out 20 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith would be meaningless - heck I get that much from a L4 kill mission like the one Damien Smith farted on. I could do the Math for Damien Smith but I doubt he would be able to follow the line of reasoning. Needless to say, I would gladly lose 60 mil isk to avoid paying out 100 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith every single day of the week and twice on Sunday and I would not even have to give it a second thought. If you have "hundreds of billions" of ISK, then why worry about Originally by: Eltigre I saved 60 mil isk cuz I bought a BPC rather than a prebuilt Machariel but I am sure everybody who reads this will be thinking "DUH" by now. - LOL Oh, I'll take his 20-60m if he doesn't want it =)
Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 05:03:00 - [87] 50 bil isk per year is only 2.5 bil isk per month and yes I do make this easily with no effort. This is from just one medium value T2 mod I make and sell. I also make and sell a T2 Stealth Bomber and 2 low value T2 mods. I also own 4 Starbase towers that cost me around 50 mil isk per week but I keep 8 weeks fuel in-stock at all times. Trust me, I can afford to tell every single pirate in-game to go f_ck themselves without giving it a 2nd thought. Originally by: Nastro Azzura Edited by: Nastro Azzura on 09/07/2006 04:52:27 Originally by: Eltigre Edited by: Eltigre on 09/07/2006 04:46:52 My net worth in-game is in the hundreds of billions with a minimum of 50 bil isk per year and 48 bil isk in liquid assets. Paying out 20 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith would be meaningless - heck I get that much from a L4 kill mission like the one Damien Smith farted on. I could do the Math for Damien Smith but I doubt he would be able to follow the line of reasoning. Needless to say, I would gladly lose 60 mil isk to avoid paying out 100 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith every single day of the week and twice on Sunday and I would not even have to give it a second thought. I've got a good feeling that says you're lying. You don't seem to comprehend simple EVE things, so I'm going to guess you're not making 50bn a year.
Eltigre	Posted - 2006.07.09 05:06:00 - [88] It was a simple enough proposition. Pay 100 mil isk for a ship that was already blown-up or pay 60 mil isk and die. This was less than a 2 second no-brainer so I chose to die and save 40 mil isk. Even when you have billions of isk to play with one still finds oneself making simple decisions that affect millions of isk. Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Eltigre Edited by: Eltigre on 09/07/2006 04:46:52 My net worth in-game is in the hundreds of billions with a minimum of 50 bil isk per year and 48 bil isk in liquid assets. Paying out 20 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith would be meaningless - heck I get that much from a L4 kill mission like the one Damien Smith farted on. I could do the Math for Damien Smith but I doubt he would be able to follow the line of reasoning. Needless to say, I would gladly lose 60 mil isk to avoid paying out 100 mil isk to a bum like Damien Smith every single day of the week and twice on Sunday and I would not even have to give it a second thought. If you have "hundreds of billions" of ISK, then why worry about Originally by: Eltigre I saved 60 mil isk cuz I bought a BPC rather than a prebuilt Machariel but I am sure everybody who reads this will be thinking "DUH" by now. - LOL Oh, I'll take his 20-60m if he doesn't want it =)
Nastro Azzura	Posted - 2006.07.09 05:07:00 - [89] Did it ever occur to you, that after paying the ransom, they would stop scramming you, and you could warp, OMG WHAT A CONCEPT! -------------------- Looking to join a pirate corp. Contact me for info.
Viper ShizzIe	Posted - 2006.07.09 05:11:00 - [90] Originally by: Eltigre 50 bil isk per year is only 2.5 bil isk per month ORLY? 50/12=4.16 mmmk? Originally by: Eltigre and yes I do make this easily with no effort. This is from just one medium value T2 mod I make and sell. I also make and sell a T2 Stealth Bomber and 2 low value T2 mods. So that's 3 T2 mods, and one T2 frig. So it's obviously not Originally by: Eltigre from just one medium value T2 mod I make and sell. Originally by: Eltigre Trust me, I can afford to tell every single pirate in-game to go f_ck themselves without giving it a 2nd thought. We love you too. =)

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