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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 11:22:00 -
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"I dont care if your friend quit the game, but you cant accuse us of exploiting when we arent. None of the game mechanics are being abused, no loophole is being used, no bug, not even the smallest bug is being exploited.
So for all i care your friend can cancel all his accounts, no problem with us, but dont come here screaming sploit sploit! when its not the case."
What you are doing is obviously something CCP "missed".
This game has a lot of holes in it, just look's like you guys found another one. And instead of reporting it as a bug, you are exploiting it in typical griefer fashion.
The sentries are there for a reason, and it's not to give pirates an advantage. If you step back and look at the situation, I just don't see how any of you think any part of the scenario is "legitimate" Totally laughable...
I'm sure CCP will shut you guys down sooner or later. I would like to see all those involved get banned. Banning is probably one of the only true deterants to exploiting in on-line gaming.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 17:24:00 -
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"And please explain to me how, in empire space, beinf attacked by gate camping pirates with extremely low security ratings and getting killed by Sentry guns when you try to fight back ISN'T an exploit? I don't care if there's some "trick" to setting things up that way, it still boils down to the fact that something is being done to cause the game to work differently than it otherwise should. Something that has no purpose other than to disrupt the game for others"
Exactly what I've been trying to say all along, you worded it much better than I.
SI will get spanked for this, mark my word. Hopefully all involved get banned.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 17:35:00 -
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"It's not an exploit, it's extremely smrtythinking.."
K
m0o used to say the same thing about thier "setup"
Either way you look at it, SI is still trying to gate camp in a system where it's not allowed, hence the sentry guns being there in the first fukking place!
It may have been cute and all the way they figured it out, but it will be stopped by CCP...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 17:48:00 -
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"You'll have to live with keeping on your toes in 0.4 space and below, because this sin't an exploit and is not going to go anywhere"
We shall see...
CCP can patch anything...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:10:00 -
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"jesus you people.....USE YOUR BRAINS...discorp i like you :)...rest of you just go try all your stupid experiments....EXPLOITERS!!! i guess you don't know how stupid you sound when you say that"
I could really care less what cute little trick is being used...
Fact is, there is gate camping by a pirate corp, happening in a system with sentry guns.
Sentry guns were put in place to stop such griefing in protected space, obviously a loophole was found, and it needs to be remedied.
I don't care if they are in good faction standing with the sentry gun owners or not, whatever the scenario pans out to be, what they are doing flies in the face of CCP's intent.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:25:00 -
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"In terms of setting up so the other person can't fight back that is entirely our goal"
Translation: we will use loopholes in game mechanics anywhere possible to make our griefing tactics safer for us. It's not an exploit until CCP decides it is, so for now we will continue to use bad game mechanics to grief those players who happen to pass through a 0.4 system where they were led to believe the sentry guns will protect them from gate campers.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 18:47:00 -
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"WD who ever said .4 systems were safe? did ccp ever say that sentry guns were unavoidable for the pirates?"
If a system has sentry guns at the gates, the reason they were put there was to stop pirates from shooting pilots passing through without taking some kind of risk (i.e. if they shoot a pilot within range of the gate, the sentry gun attacks the aggressor, so they can't sit there and keep shooting). Why else would sentry guns be there? To aid negative sec players in gate camping, LOL!
This whole thing is such a joke, I can't believe all the support for such an obvious game flaw! It's truly amazing.
Negative sec players using sentry guns to thier advantage, just step back and take a macro look at the whole situation... Obviously this should not be happening, I'm sure CCP did not intend for this to happen.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:06:00 -
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"If pirating = griefing you can be sure I won't be buying your dictionary anytime soon and I sure as hell will never hire you as a translator"
In SI's version of the dictionary:
Pirating = Gate Camping.
They recieved this dictionary as a gift from a retired m0o griefer. (who quit the game because of people like me, YAY!)
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:12:00 -
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"I'm tempted to reveal what's really going on just to see the look on your face :)
Do you have a webcam?"
Why don't you then, like someone said, what do I care, I only have 8 days left...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
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"[ 2003.10.01 23:46:07 ] TomB > Pirate hi-jaking has always been my dream, but making it into a good feature will be a difficult task"
Sounds like the Dev's have not truely implemented TomB's dream, sounds like they have more work to do...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:53:00 -
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"Pirate one warps out, leaving you as agressor (as the other three didnt really shoot at you). The sentry gun sees you as only agressor and start firing and blow your ship up. Then the Space Invaders blow up your pod
Damend good thinking, lads, damned good thinking."
Yeah, pretty neat trick, but...
Just don't shoot back!
This is dissappointing, I thought it was something better than that...
Like firing missiles & torps from out of range of the sentries, etc.
I guess I would have never got caught in this scheme, as I don't return fire near gates or stations...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.10.02 22:31:00 -
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"Whitedwarf: You don't have to shoot back to get your stuffing torn out, we *do* still shoot. I guess you could call the other thing a sort of 'backup plan'"
Then how come you guys could never get me?
I must have made it though at least 10 or so of your blockades...
Admittedly, that was before you were using this tactic.
However, I would never get caught in that situation, cause I use the map...
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