If only warp speed modules werent so goddamn bad,

mind elaborating for the less experienced among us

I agree, reverse it back, same number as before this patch.

We want adaptation. But we want something given to the now much slower ships to justify them more. Just sit and accept things like an impending doom is not adapting. Battleships are now only used seriously when they travel trough titan bridges. They need some tweaks to justify them for operations that move the traditional way.

Nothing stopping AF rigging for it too.

Surely a BS managing it isn't a problem then :)

I am yet to hear a good argument why BC's and BS's shouldn't be able to move around at base 2.7/3.0 au speeds to bring sexy back.

All smaller ships can still go way faster if selfsame rigged/implanted. The delta in speeds remains, especially when you concede that align times would remain the same.

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Who are you to say battleships can afford to lose rigs compared to smaller ships, thats pretty arrogant.

I assure you the increased buffer from trimarks/slaves are of great importance to many BS pilots.

(I think perhaps you meant to say you were a clown-car pilot instead of a BS pilot?...)

Also, unless you are just trolling at this point (or willfully ignorant/dyslexic/etc), I clearly suggested hyperspatial/ascendancy nerfs to address your whiny 'BS's would go to fast' concerns, could be done on a mass basis, so how does that equate to 'nerfing literally everything'? Also, weren't people able to to move ships bigger than Cruisers around before ascendancy implants were available by your 'nothing to see here' mentality?...

I tried to follow your 'logic' dude, but its pretty clear you've entered the troll zone.

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Some battleships can. Most can't. This issue only reinforces the current state where the Megathron is the only BS used for shooting things (as opposed to the Armageddon and Scorpion) that is worth flying at all. 8 lows and trivial fitting means it's easy to make up for the loss of rigs, you can't do this on Amarr BS (needs fitting/cap mods) or Minmatar BS. (doesn't have the slots to begin with)

One rig isn't going to do it. With implants it will, but the main advantage of battleships over HACs is cost. You don't want to start blinging them out with expensive implants, in that case you should just fly an Ishtar.

So, spending more time travelling between content is a good thing?

......wut......

Rigs and modules should be to make ships better at what they do, not un-frak a pre-frakked condition baked into base warp speeds of cruisers and larger since the warp-speed changes (screwup) recently implemented, that made these ships *suck* to fly now.

Tell me though, why we can't we buff the warp speeds as mentioned in the OP? Specifics please.

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Are you saying an ascendancy implanted & rigged Rattlesnake would go faster than an ascendancy implanted & rigged Stiletto?

Also, isn't the answer to nerf ascendancy implants and hyperspatial rigs also as part of the proposed changes if you have an issue with new top-speeds of BS's?

Dont think the proposed changes must be done in a vacuum, of not also looking at ascendancies and hyperspatials. The differentials would remain.

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a bs has a hard time losing the 5-10% cpu per rig with fitting one of those rigs