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 Kesh Inehre    |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
[1] I love the fact that both sides insist that the game is getting better for the other side's game style... -Kesh |
 Kesh Inehre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:15:00 -
[2] I love the fact that both sides insist that the game is getting better for the other side's game style... -Kesh |
 Zaphod Robotnik |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:16:00 -
[3] Then on avaerage the game is simply getting better. Period. Result  -- Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps |
 Zaphod Robotnik Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:16:00 -
[4] Then on avaerage the game is simply getting better. Period. Result -- Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik Former President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/ |
 Veruna Caseti |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[5] I know, it's so funny. Half the posts are about the "death of pirating" and the other half are about how all the pirates are destroying the game for everyone by griefing and gate camping. It really is hilarious if your one of the few who aren't too stubborn to see it from both sides.  Veruna Caseti Ishukone |
 Veruna Caseti Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[6] I know, it's so funny. Half the posts are about the "death of pirating" and the other half are about how all the pirates are destroying the game for everyone by griefing and gate camping. It really is hilarious if your one of the few who aren't too stubborn to see it from both sides. Veruna Caseti Ishukone |
 Agent Red |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:21:00 -
[7] well kesh it seems u have just identified yourself as a carebear by labeling pirates who imo have very legit concerns "griefers" which they are not. just because u get blown up doesnt mean the person who blew you up is a griefer. it means you got pwnt. kthx agent red |
 Agent Red Caldari |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:21:00 -
[8] well kesh it seems u have just identified yourself as a carebear by labeling pirates who imo have very legit concerns "griefers" which they are not. just because u get blown up doesnt mean the person who blew you up is a griefer. it means you got pwnt. kthx agent red |
 drunkenmaster |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:41:00 -
[9] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 02/10/2003 19:41:24
chill red pirates call anti-pirates carebears anti-pirates call pirates griefers it's just one of those things... This guy sounds like neither. |
 drunkenmaster Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:41:00 -
[10] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 02/10/2003 19:41:24
chill red pirates call anti-pirates carebears anti-pirates call pirates griefers it's just one of those things... This guy sounds like neither. |
Indigo Seqi |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:53:00 -
[11] Griefers are just a seperate class of players, neither pirate nor "carebear" |
 Indigo Seqi Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:53:00 -
[12] Griefers are just a seperate class of players, neither pirate nor "carebear" |
Torik |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:08:00 -
[13]
On the same note he might have identified himself as a pirate (or griefer) by labeling non-pirates with very legit concerns as "carebears". Both "griefer" and "carebear" have been used all over the place and are now fairly meaningless labels. People use them all the time without considering if the term really applies to a particulat person. |
 Torik |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:08:00 -
[14]
On the same note he might have identified himself as a pirate (or griefer) by labeling non-pirates with very legit concerns as "carebears". Both "griefer" and "carebear" have been used all over the place and are now fairly meaningless labels. People use them all the time without considering if the term really applies to a particulat person. |
 Sphalerite |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:20:00 -
[15] Awwww... I was hoping this would be a battle of the buzzwords thread. You know... Carebears vs Griefers. which word has less meaning? Exploit vs Nerf. Who can break this cycle of abuse? Miner II vs "I'm quitting." What do I care less about? |
 Sphalerite Caldari Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:20:00 -
[16] Awwww... I was hoping this would be a battle of the buzzwords thread. You know... Carebears vs Griefers. which word has less meaning? Exploit vs Nerf. Who can break this cycle of abuse? Miner II vs "I'm quitting." What do I care less about? |
Shauna |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:36:00 -
[17] /emote searches for buzzword bingo card... |
 Shauna Gallente X-Factor Industries |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:36:00 -
[18] /emote searches for buzzword bingo card... |
 Kesh Inehre |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:53:00 -
[19] Hehe... I'm neither griefer nor carebear. I respect both pirates, pirate hunters and miners, traders. I enjoy the "forum flame wars" though. -Kesh |
Kesh Inehre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:53:00 -
[20] Hehe... I'm neither griefer nor carebear. I respect both pirates, pirate hunters and miners, traders. I enjoy the "forum flame wars" though. -Kesh |
 Mjr Tom |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:11:00 -
[21] Most of the people in the game do not fit even the hyperextended versions of the words 'griefer' or 'carebear'. Sadly, most of the people in the game do not post on these forums either. I'm fortunate enough to never have been called a griefer or carebear. I don't blow people up, but I don't whine about being blown up either. Although, I am sure some of the pacifist-extremists probably think I am because I support the idea of Eve being a PvP game. |
 Mjr Tom Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:11:00 -
[22] Most of the people in the game do not fit even the hyperextended versions of the words 'griefer' or 'carebear'. Sadly, most of the people in the game do not post on these forums either. I'm fortunate enough to never have been called a griefer or carebear. I don't blow people up, but I don't whine about being blown up either. Although, I am sure some of the pacifist-extremists probably think I am because I support the idea of Eve being a PvP game. |
 margerie dubois |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:21:00 -
[23] We're known as the "neutrals"  We make up the majority of almost every game out there, tend to be the quietest, don't get ulcers  , and are usually scratching our heads when "griefers" and "carebears" go for blood over tweaks in the gaming system.Marge |
 margerie dubois |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:21:00 -
[24] We're known as the "neutrals" We make up the majority of almost every game out there, tend to be the quietest, don't get ulcers , and are usually scratching our heads when "griefers" and "carebears" go for blood over tweaks in the gaming system.Marge |
Relentless |
Posted - 2003.10.02 23:05:00 -
[25]
Pirate is not the same thing as griefer. but the occupation does attract most of the griefers. Pirating is a lot more appealing if you're the sort who gets your jollys from ruining someone elses day. |
 Relentless Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.02 23:05:00 -
[26]
Pirate is not the same thing as griefer. but the occupation does attract most of the griefers. Pirating is a lot more appealing if you're the sort who gets your jollys from ruining someone elses day. |
cball |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:00:00 -
[27]
No one cares about the pirating, its the griefers and exploiters that ruin any game, including Eve.  Why is some can't see the difference between griefing, exploiting and pirating?  I have ran into a few pirates, won a few fights with them, lost a few, I even paid a few tolls, and accepted it as part of the eve universe, but griefing and using exploits is what will ruin any game for the rest, including the pirates.  Long live the carebears!  |
 cball Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:00:00 -
[28]
No one cares about the pirating, its the griefers and exploiters that ruin any game, including Eve. Why is some can't see the difference between griefing, exploiting and pirating? I have ran into a few pirates, won a few fights with them, lost a few, I even paid a few tolls, and accepted it as part of the eve universe, but griefing and using exploits is what will ruin any game for the rest, including the pirates. Long live the carebears! |
 cball |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:02:00 -
[29]
ok, I'll do it, you're a carebear-pirate, there I said it... |
Sylvius |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:02:00 -
[30] I'm probably a carebear by most standards (I avoid PvP, but I have no problem with it), and I happen to think the game is getter better for me. |
 Sylvius |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:02:00 -
[31] I'm probably a carebear by most standards (I avoid PvP, but I have no problem with it), and I happen to think the game is getter better for me. |
cball Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:02:00 -
[32]
ok, I'll do it, you're a carebear-pirate, there I said it... |
 cball |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:04:00 -
[33]
yaaa, forum wars can be fun, as long as its kept in the RP aspect, some forget it is just a game, and can't resist the personal attacks vs the attack on the charactor.. |
cball Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:04:00 -
[34]
yaaa, forum wars can be fun, as long as its kept in the RP aspect, some forget it is just a game, and can't resist the personal attacks vs the attack on the charactor.. |
 Chucky |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:13:00 -
[35]
I'm neither griefer nor carebear. I have no respect any of them (They are equally worthless) and I like to fan the flames  ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
 Chucky |
Posted - 2003.10.03 00:13:00 -
[36]
I'm neither griefer nor carebear. I have no respect any of them (They are equally worthless) and I like to fan the flames ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Miz Cenuij |
Posted - 2003.10.03 04:04:00 -
[37] I dont kill for money or loot anymore. I kill simply for the love of killing, does that make me a carebear? lol Oh yeh I find the sound that pods make when they pop really kinda addictive as well. and im going to kill them". |
 Miz Cenuij OctoberSnow Corp |
Posted - 2003.10.03 04:04:00 -
[38] I dont kill for money or loot anymore. I kill simply for the love of killing, does that make me a carebear? lol Oh yeh I find the sound that pods make when they pop really kinda addictive as well. and im going to kill them". |
Miz Cenuij |
Posted - 2003.10.03 04:07:00 -
[39] Consider this... Without pirates, there would be less demand for new ships and equipment. As such we are helping the EVE economy along... and im going to kill them". |
Miz Cenuij OctoberSnow Corp |
Posted - 2003.10.03 04:07:00 -
[40] Consider this... Without pirates, there would be less demand for new ships and equipment. As such we are helping the EVE economy along... and im going to kill them". |
Lord Azraiel |
Posted - 2003.10.03 06:42:00 -
[41] Also without pirates, this game would really suck, i mean, without pvp, we basically pay 12 bucks a month to mine. mining is one big excersize in patience and how much of borin **** can you take. "I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!" |
 Lord Azraiel Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire |
Posted - 2003.10.03 06:42:00 -
[42] Also without pirates, this game would really suck, i mean, without pvp, we basically pay 12 bucks a month to mine. mining is one big excersize in patience and how much of borin **** can you take. |
Zezman |
Posted - 2003.10.03 08:11:00 -
[43] The politics of the player base is far more interesting than any dev created content this is true. Now, if only the complainers would just shut their damn YAPPERS!!!!! and play the game DOWN BY THE RIVER! (»)(») À\Oo/ À=\/= This is Rat. It is a vermin. It has eaten all of Bunny's lettuce. |
 Zezman Murder of Crows E N I G M A |
Posted - 2003.10.03 08:11:00 -
[44] The politics of the player base is far more interesting than any dev created content this is true. Now, if only the complainers would just shut their damn YAPPERS!!!!! and play the game DOWN BY THE RIVER! |
Kesh Inehre |
Posted - 2003.10.04 00:14:00 -
[45] indeed |
Kesh Inehre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.04 00:14:00 -
[46] indeed |
StealthNet |
Posted - 2003.10.04 01:32:00 -
[47] Ok. Im in korridi right now, with a megathron cargo full of megacyte. Please come get it, destroy the mega, pod me... then give me... ummm let me see... 500 mil back ? Disclaimer: that was a failed attempt to make some humor... Im not in Korridi nor I have the money to have a cargo filled with megacyte... _______________________________________________ |
 StealthNet Gallente X-Factor Industries |
Posted - 2003.10.04 01:32:00 -
[48] Ok. Im in korridi right now, with a megathron cargo full of megacyte. Please come get it, destroy the mega, pod me... then give me... ummm let me see... 500 mil back ? Disclaimer: that was a failed attempt to make some humor... Im not in Korridi nor I have the money to have a cargo filled with megacyte... _______________________________________________ |
Setec |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:12:00 -
[49] A pirate is not necessarily a griefer, and a griefer is not necessarily a pirate, though the two can overlap. An anti-pirate is not necessarily a carebear. It depends what you're against--whether you fight against pirates as opponents, or whether you are against their very existence in the game. If you want pirates out of the game, or you desire an unrealistic reduction in their role, you're a carebear and deserve the derogatory label. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |
 Setec Caldari The Silent Rage |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:12:00 -
[50] A pirate is not necessarily a griefer, and a griefer is not necessarily a pirate, though the two can overlap. An anti-pirate is not necessarily a carebear. It depends what you're against--whether you fight against pirates as opponents, or whether you are against their very existence in the game. If you want pirates out of the game, or you desire an unrealistic reduction in their role, you're a carebear and deserve the derogatory label. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |
WhiteDwarf |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:26:00 -
[51] "An anti-pirate is not necessarily a carebear. It depends what you're against--whether you fight against pirates as opponents, or whether you are against their very existence in the game. If you want pirates out of the game, or you desire an unrealistic reduction in their role, you're a carebear and deserve the derogatory label" If pirate activity includes gate camping in a 0.4 system (awefully close to a 1.0 noob starting zone) using questionalble tactics to essentially kill noobs, then yes, I think a reduction in that kind of activity is called for. Label me what you will, as you know by now, it is of no concern to me... "Trust No One" |
 WhiteDwarf Caldari Battlestars |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:26:00 -
[52] "An anti-pirate is not necessarily a carebear. It depends what you're against--whether you fight against pirates as opponents, or whether you are against their very existence in the game. If you want pirates out of the game, or you desire an unrealistic reduction in their role, you're a carebear and deserve the derogatory label" If pirate activity includes gate camping in a 0.4 system (awefully close to a 1.0 noob starting zone) using questionalble tactics to essentially kill noobs, then yes, I think a reduction in that kind of activity is called for. Label me what you will, as you know by now, it is of no concern to me... "Trust No One" |
 Donathan Slade Kay Korporation Knights Of the Southerncross |
Posted - 2007.04.09 18:35:00 -
[53] Ok, maybe because I'm new..... wtf is a Greifer, and wtf is a Carebear? |
 Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong |
Posted - 2007.04.09 18:38:00 -
[54] /me throws garlic at the thread |
 Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises |
Posted - 2007.04.09 18:42:00 -
[55] The key to enjoying the forums is to not take any of it seriously, and laugh at the fools who do. Especially in COAD. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
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 Humpalot |
Posted - 2007.04.09 18:44:00 -
[56]
Or to resurrect 3.5 year old threads. |
 deathforge The Accursed |
Posted - 2007.04.09 18:54:00 -
[57]I call myself a griefer to spite the carebears that seek solace in calling me a griefer. Whatever makes ya feel better, keep bringing me loot And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Low skillpoint Rifter piracy video |
 MotoTsume Gallente Clan Black Scorpion |
Posted - 2007.04.09 19:03:00 -
[58] Edited by: MotoTsume on 09/04/2007 19:01:25 Edited by: MotoTsume on 09/04/2007 19:00:18
A griefer is a person who's only enjoyement in any game is the ruining of other peoples game time and takes this to the extreme; possibly even by going after the same people over and over, that said, not all pirates are griefers - but the profession does lend itself to griefers. Now a carebears is a fluffy cartoon bear from a kids show many years ago edit:spelling and more clarification It's just a game........Or is it????? |
Donathan Slade Kay Korporation Knights Of the Southerncross |
Posted - 2007.04.09 19:19:00 -
[59]
Seriously, people saying they arn't carebears, well of course they are fluffy cartoon bear's.. So what are they?  |
 fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2007.04.09 19:25:00 -
[60] Tbh, griefing is an overused word to describe something which the vast majority of the time, isn't griefing, it's playing the game in a cold, vicious universe  BoB vs the coalition of family value's |
 Liam Money Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.04.09 19:48:00 -
[61]
You have just identified yourself by using the letters pwnt. |
 Soporo Caldari |
Posted - 2007.04.09 19:53:00 -
[62]
Sorry to tell you this, but if iskies and loot is your thing, you probly aint a griefer. It's the guy who sits in n00b systems and baits 3 hour old n00bs that is. |
 HelloDevette |
Posted - 2007.04.09 20:22:00 -
[63]
I see pirates being those that want to profit from ransoming/stealing/blowing **** up and looting. Griefers are people that do it just to ruin someone's day and don't care about the isk. I would also say that anyone who is scared of a remotely fair fight is probably a griefer. Also anyone that is too scared to 1v1 and tries some 6v1 gank crap. |
 Zhett Haukes Shih Yang Tong |
Posted - 2007.04.09 20:26:00 -
[64] Thread necros: Griefer or Carebear? (Or just forum seach gone horribly wrong?) |
 Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy |
Posted - 2007.04.09 20:34:00 -
[65]
You just greifed the forums. A carebear is some one who beleives PvP without consent is rape A griefer is some one who goes out of their way to mess with some one over and over. |
 Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War |
Posted - 2007.04.09 22:27:00 -
[66] Edited by: Plutoinum on 09/04/2007 22:24:03
- if 6 try to kill me, I try to get away/survive. - if I'm in a gang with 6 and get the chance to kill one hostile, I kill him. - if it's 5 vs. 5 then we might have a good fight. That's all I think about it and that's how the majority in 0.0 plays. Those that complain about how unfair it is instead of trying to make the best out of any situation are called victims. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
 Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat |
Posted - 2007.04.09 22:40:00 -
[67] Gotta love how we've just resumed the debate, 3 years on. 
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 Kyletoo |
Posted - 2007.04.09 23:33:00 -
[68] I'ma carebear that hires pirates to kill greifers, does that count? |
MotoTsume Gallente Clan Black Scorpion |
Posted - 2007.04.09 23:48:00 -
[69]
I think that makes you a Smurf It's just a game........Or is it????? |
 Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium |
Posted - 2007.04.10 00:44:00 -
[70] ill grief your carebear -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW! |
 Clair Bear |
Posted - 2007.04.10 04:13:00 -
[71] In before the lock: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=carebear&word2=griefer We win! |
 PostWithYourMain |
Posted - 2007.04.10 04:22:00 -
[72] Necro = griefer! |
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy |
Posted - 2007.04.10 04:46:00 -
[73]
O RLY? Fight against log off tactics to protect your space from isk farmers! |
Clair Bear |
Posted - 2007.04.10 05:09:00 -
[74] Edited by: Clair Bear on 10/04/2007 05:05:40
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Kyletoo |
Posted - 2007.04.10 15:25:00 -
[75] I guess a pirate paid by a carebear to kill a greifer is actually a mercenary.  = VICTORY |
 Stevobob Freedom Guard Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2007.04.10 17:50:00 -
[76] Edited by: Stevobob on 10/04/2007 17:46:47
Actually, the COW I've encountered in small gangs run when more than two hostiles jump into system |
 Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2007.04.10 17:54:00 -
[77] If both sides are complaining equally, the game must be balanced. |
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy |
Posted - 2007.04.10 17:57:00 -
[78]
Win Fight against log off tactics to protect your space from isk farmers! |
 Khayden Epic Caldari |
Posted - 2007.04.10 19:37:00 -
[79]
Funny, you object to the term griefer, but overlook the term carebear which is equally as offensive to the intended recipient. This guy was obviously insulting on an equal opportunity basis. |
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises |
Posted - 2007.04.10 20:16:00 -
[80] Carebear vs greifer has a different definition for everyone, namely if you build stuff everyone else is a griefer and if you blow stuff up everyone else is a carebear. But more generally, a griefer is someone who enjoys ruining other peoples fun just to be a spiteful *****, not killing people for money/loot/whatever other reward. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
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 lordharold Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2007.04.10 20:29:00 -
[81] Necro is bad... *click* -Lord Harold |
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