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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:39:00 -
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Yeah, graphics look like crap, even if they add AA, it's going to look like crap. |
Majuan Shuo
Sons Of 0din
7
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Posted - 2011.12.01 19:26:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Zions Child wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Zions Child wrote:SpaceSquirrels wrote:Same ole theme park mechanics with a star wars name and look. Space combat is on rails from my understanding. Kudos if thats your thing, but dont expect new, unique or innovation. Voice acting doesnt count either. For some reason thats the first thing people mention. What, people aren't allowed to enjoy simple mechanics from time to time? Its better than WoW... WoW has kung-fu pandas, so it's clearly the superior product. Obviously, everyone knows that pandas make a game better, right? HEY CCP, WHY DON'T WE HAVE PANDA SHIPS?! I know right, but why stop there! Add them as a fifth race to EVE. I bet that would attract millions of players from WoW and possibly even SWTOR, if CCP chooses the design I have here. This new panda race would fit EVE or any scifi game like a glove. This would be a fitting model for their ships and as a bonus it looks like it could have been made by the CCP guy who designed the new scorpion, so it is a totally realistic option. Naturally they would have to have their own CQ and units for DUST. Looks totally awesome right?
Ill have you know Pandarians are an old, noble race in Warcraft lore. I was always the Brewmaster Hero in WC3 long long before WOW ****** my favorite lore up - nice to see its coming back.
"I believe the Winter expansion needs to be a huge success, and so they are giving us ice cream, and cake, and ice cream cake, and pizza, and hookers, and blow, and pizza. Any and everything they think players want and they can do by winter, they will stuff into this expansion." |
Destamon
Azure Freelancers
3
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:35:00 -
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TOR graphics in the Thanksgiving weekend beta were a lot worse than previously, so I'd reserve final judgment until the game is out (early access starts in two weeks). Apparently they distributed the build without hi-res textures and there were some settings problems, too (and obviously AA-ing was fubared). Having played in the beta weekend, I can say that the graphics style is very well done and fits the game nicely.
There is nothing revolutionary about the game... it's your everyday themepark MMO with WoW/EQ mechanics and lightsabers and a BioWare story. Many features are nicely streamlined, like auto-loot, item customization, companions, and crew skills. Space combat is of course an arcade minigame on rails, they said as much from day one. You can upgrade the items of your ship and your companions. The voice-acted story manages to draw you in and care much more about your character. Also, zapping people with force lightning does not get old, whether it's in a torture cutscene or out on the field.
It's not breaking any records but it's a solid game that's shaping up to be the most serious contender to WoW's themepark throne yet. They have something like 1.5 to 2 million pre-orders to date if you count Europe as well, although it remains to be seen how many will stick around. I'll surely draw ire for this but I plan on playing both EVE and TOR for now. They are entirely different experiences, and I like both. |
Jack Cavanaugh
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 00:17:00 -
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I predict this will be only slightly less of an abortion than STO. |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
118
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Posted - 2011.12.06 07:36:00 -
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The problem is not only that the spaceship combat is a revival of the old tunnel shooter, but the MMO part as well. Yes you can make good or evil choices but they have no overall consequences to the story: Spare a guy or kill him, regardless of your choice he is gone from the game and does not appear again.
Also the spaceship mini-game brought the final decision that I will certainly not purchase SWTOR. In all honesty it is overhyped and not even a contender for WoW. People are likely to play it for a month or two, then they have seen most of it.
SWTOR would be great, if they had made it a single-player by removing the grind. |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2011.12.06 08:10:00 -
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They ended all the beta testing the other day and now everyone are just waiting for the pre-launch/launch.
It seems I can barely post without linking something, besides my crappy screenshots didn't make it justice. So for those interested here are a few links to some of the game content on YouTube:
Dev Dispatch - Companion Characters
Game Features
Choose Your Side: Jedi Knight vs. Bounty Hunter
PvP -- Voidstar
Character Progression -- Imperial Agent
Choose Your Side: Trooper vs. Sith Inquisitor
Character Progression - Jedi Consular
Choose Your Side: Imperial Agent vs. Jedi Consular CCP In-Game Event 2011.11.23 -áGÇó-á Nyio -áGÇó-á Grenade? |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
100
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Posted - 2011.12.06 10:12:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:
SWTOR would be great, if they had made it a single-player by removing the grind.
What? Grind? Sorry, was too busy enjoying the story to notice. Also was too busy enjoying PVP to notice. |
whatever whateverson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.12.06 12:27:00 -
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The way I see it, SWTOR is Knights of the old republic 3 and after the story/single player the game is useless and one can unsub, expensive SP game that would be better if it was singleplayer only. If anyone thinks the pve/raid will be any better than wow you are fooling yourself, I don't blame you but it is fact and pvp will not even be close to eve, so the game is somewhere in between wow and eve... again, don't waste money on collectors editions and long subscription plans, do yourself a favor and sub for a month or 2 to finish the story/stories and quit. Take it for what it is, KOTOR 3!
SWG pre NGE was a better game when it comes to everything but the story/sp/questing.
I however will wait until it fails and go FTP within the year and enjoy the KOTOR 3 then :) for free! |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
519
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Posted - 2011.12.06 12:50:00 -
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Basically, the way I see SW:TOR is like six parallel small KOTOR sequels with worse graphics and a much smaller scope wrapped into and followed by a sci-fi WoW clone.
Not necessarily a bad deal, especially to die-hard fans of SW or sci-fi in general that only didn't bother with WoW because it was neither. But for everybody else, a resounding "meh". http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
200
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Posted - 2011.12.06 13:16:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Basically, the way I see SW:TOR is like six parallel small KOTOR sequels with worse graphics and a much smaller scope wrapped into and followed by a sci-fi WoW clone.
Not necessarily a bad deal, especially to die-hard fans of SW or sci-fi in general that only didn't bother with WoW because it was neither. But for everybody else, a resounding "meh".
The game isn't out yet but you are already sand in the vag bitter over it.
Honk! Honk! All board the bitter bus to lemon town. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
81
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:13:00 -
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The thing I thought when I heard about this game was:
Who will NOT play a jedi ? FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
523
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Posted - 2011.12.06 22:54:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Akita T wrote:Basically, the way I see SW:TOR is like six parallel small KOTOR sequels with worse graphics and a much smaller scope wrapped into and followed by a sci-fi WoW clone. Not necessarily a bad deal, especially to die-hard fans of SW or sci-fi in general that only didn't bother with WoW because it was neither. But for everybody else, a resounding "meh". The game isn't out yet but you are already sand in the vag bitter over it. Honk! Honk! All board the bitter bus to lemon town. And here I thought I was actually magnanimous by indirectly calling it a better sci-fi alternative to WoW (implying that people that didn't play WoW before would play SWTOR, alongside quite a few people that already play WoW), even if the multiplayer product looks inferior from just about every standpoint to the positively ancient singleplayer root game (which was awesome, back 8 years ago) And yes, 8 years is ancient in computer terms, that's at least 4 or 5 major generations of hardware. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
0
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:19:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:The thing I thought when I heard about this game was:
Who will NOT play a jedi ?
I've been in beta for months now up until it closed Sunday night...
To answer your question, sure, Consulars/Inquisitors are popular (and some think OP) but the Knights/Warriors are struggling something fierce - at least in the eyes of most players who tried them. While I liked my Guardian, I don't think it's nearly as epic feeling as my Sage. The current feeling is that Sentinels/Marauders are extremely underpowered and far too easily killed. BW made some changes towards the end of beta in an effort to beef up Sentinels/Marauders but they still seem to be lacking oomph.
Troopers/BH are really popular, and there are a ton of smugglers/IAs running around. I'll be honest, while I only really tested the Republic side, I was loving my troopers. They're fun to play, I was enjoying the story, and a lot of people are giving Vanguards/PT the edge over Guardians/Juggs for tanking in PvP.
So... while I am one who has to have a jedi, there are a lot of people finding the non-jedi classes to be really entertaining.
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Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
100
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Posted - 2011.12.07 00:59:00 -
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Bounty hunter in the house.
The only reason I'll also roll a Jedi Knight is because T7 is AMAZING. |
Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
0
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Posted - 2011.12.07 01:06:00 -
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^ I preferred Kira really over T7... My opinion may have been different had I played my sentinel more, but as a Guardian, I didn't need T7 tanking for me and I loved Kira's damage output. I called her murder machine lol. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
201
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Posted - 2011.12.07 16:02:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Alpheias wrote:Akita T wrote:Basically, the way I see SW:TOR is like six parallel small KOTOR sequels with worse graphics and a much smaller scope wrapped into and followed by a sci-fi WoW clone. Not necessarily a bad deal, especially to die-hard fans of SW or sci-fi in general that only didn't bother with WoW because it was neither. But for everybody else, a resounding "meh". The game isn't out yet but you are already sand in the vag bitter over it. Honk! Honk! All board the bitter bus to lemon town. And here I thought I was actually magnanimous by indirectly calling it a better sci-fi alternative to WoW (implying that people that didn't play WoW before would play SWTOR, alongside quite a few people that already play WoW), even if the multiplayer product looks inferior from just about every standpoint to the positively ancient singleplayer root game (which was awesome, back 8 years ago) And yes, 8 years is ancient in computer terms, that's at least 4 or 5 major generations of hardware.
The bitterness is strong with this one!
Here, have a bagel. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
523
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Posted - 2011.12.07 16:09:00 -
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Poppy or sesame ? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
3
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Posted - 2011.12.08 06:52:00 -
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Well, it seems we EVE folks aren't the only ones who have to deal with dev controversy and forum rage threadnaughts...
It appears that there are issues for folks who pre-ordered the CE version of the game (the $150 version that comes with a statue!). People ordered, thinking that they'd have a grace period from the end of early access until their physical copy arrived in the mail, say from Amazon. Well, as of tonight, the stance has been changed and there will be no grace period.
To further complicate matters, many folks who ordered through Amazon (and others honestly) have had their shipping delivery estimates... moved back several days. Some who ordered on the 21st of July (day 1) and thought they'd be getting the game on release day (Dec 20th) are now seeing delivery as late as the 29th. One person who ordered the CE through Walmart got an updated delivery estimate of Jan3.
Note, it seems Amazon, Walmart, and others will be shipping the standard edition in advance of launch day. This seems to only be impacting the CE version. Several of these online retailers are specifically stating that EA has expressly forbid the early shipping of ONLY the CE - at least that's what is being reported by customers on the forums.
So, early access ends on Dec 19th, and come the 20th, many of these CE folks will be unable to play (lacking their retail keys) for days, possibly weeks or more. Tempers are running hot as you may well be able to imagine lol. It's important to again state, that the no-grace period stance was announced... tonight. Previous statements made clear that there WOULD be a grace period to allow for retail copies to filter through the mail at holiday time.
Now, I'm not one to think this compares to say... $70 virtual monocles (and I said as much), but it is a real kick in the genitals for many people. I'd say this is quickly becoming the TOR forum version of Incarna rage.
Whatever, the real reason I'm posting is this:
A clever TOR forum warrior made this spoof, which is common enough I suppose lol, to describe the situation.
I present, a former leader of Germany (say until the mid 40s or so...), upon being informed his CE copy will be arriving on Dec 26th - not the 20th as he had planned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DFT1Jwf4j0&feature=youtu.be |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
307
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Posted - 2011.12.08 07:10:00 -
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Fallon Windskimmer wrote:Well, it seems we EVE folks aren't the only ones who have to deal with dev controversy and forum rage threadnaughts... It appears that there are issues for folks who pre-ordered the CE version of the game (the $150 version that comes with a statue!). People ordered, thinking that they'd have a grace period from the end of early access until their physical copy arrived in the mail, say from Amazon. Well, as of tonight, the stance has been changed and there will be no grace period. To further complicate matters, many folks who ordered through Amazon (and others honestly) have had their shipping delivery estimates... moved back several days. Some who ordered on the 21st of July (day 1) and thought they'd be getting the game on release day (Dec 20th) are now seeing delivery as late as the 29th. One person who ordered the CE through Walmart got an updated delivery estimate of Jan3. Note, it seems Amazon, Walmart, and others will be shipping the standard edition in advance of launch day. This seems to only be impacting the CE version. Several of these online retailers are specifically stating that EA has expressly forbid the early shipping of ONLY the CE - at least that's what is being reported by customers on the forums. So, early access ends on Dec 19th, and come the 20th, many of these CE folks will be unable to play (lacking their retail keys) for days, possibly weeks or more. Tempers are running hot as you may well be able to imagine lol. It's important to again state, that the no-grace period stance was announced... tonight. Previous statements made clear that there WOULD be a grace period to allow for retail copies to filter through the mail at holiday time. Now, I'm not one to think this compares to say... $70 virtual monocles (and I said as much), but it is a real kick in the genitals for many people. I'd say this is quickly becoming the TOR forum version of Incarna rage. Whatever, the real reason I'm posting is this: A clever TOR forum warrior made this spoof, which is common enough I suppose lol, to describe the situation. I present, a former leader of Germany (say until the mid 40s or so...), upon being informed his CE copy will be arriving on Dec 26th - not the 20th as he had planned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DFT1Jwf4j0&feature=youtu.be
I've read about this and it seems to be mostly/only? Amazon customers that have this issue. As for me I'm all set as I was smrt enough to pre-order both the standard and CE editions.
Also good news! Quoted from swtor's site:
"Early Game Access* for Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó is only a few days away! Starting December 13, 2011, The Old Republic will begin emailing invitations to start your Early Game Access. Invitations will be sent throughout the Early Game Access period offering rolling access to the game in the order in which you redeemed your Pre-Order Code, so be sure to check your email inbox!" CCP In-Game Event 2011.11.23 GÇó Nyio GÇó Grenade? GÇó Forums |
Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
3
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Posted - 2011.12.08 07:17:00 -
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Nyio wrote:I've read about this and it seems to be mostly/only? Amazon customers that have this issue. As for me I'm all set as I was smrt enough to pre-order both the standard and CE editions. Also good news! Quoted from swtor's site: "Early Game Access* for Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó is only a few days away! Starting December 13, 2011, The Old Republic will begin emailing invitations to start your Early Game Access. Invitations will be sent throughout the Early Game Access period offering rolling access to the game in the order in which you redeemed your Pre-Order Code, so be sure to check your email inbox!"
Some Walmart folks are having issues with the CE, some people are unsure about what Gamestop is doing... Honestly, people are asking about all the online pre-order retailers including Best Buy and Newegg, so it's not quite limited to just Amazon.
I went DDE, and my regular code should come on the 16th so... I'm personally not going to experience this problem. I just found it all very... familiar in an "OMG INCARNA IS THE DEVIL!!!" sort of way, and I appreciated the funny video.
However, the forum rage is high right now over there. I'm on page 69 of 79 as I type this.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
524
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Posted - 2011.12.08 09:48:00 -
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And this is why you stay away from physical copies and only do digital downloads. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
Fallon Windskimmer
Dedicated Inactivity
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Posted - 2011.12.08 11:01:00 -
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Akita T wrote:And this is why you stay away from physical copies and only do digital downloads.
Amen.
I think I said I'm not going to be impacted. I do think this is a crappy move and quite the change from what had been official policy (the grace period thing) as of August. But of course, this is Star Wars, and regardless of what you may or may not think of the game, it is drawing from the huge (and at times rabid) SW fan base. Many many many people had to have their CEs with the Darth Malgus statue and game soundtrack, and whatever else is included.
I decided on digital simply so as to make my access something easy. Assuming Verizon doesn't have a massive service outage, I'll be playing on the 20th.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
205
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:56:00 -
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I got my collectors edition today, and not for a stupid amount of cash. I got mine for the price they assumed it would go for.
Yes.. Give into your hate. It is the only way you can destroy me. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
307
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Posted - 2011.12.08 14:28:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:I got my collectors edition today, and not for a stupid amount of cash. I got mine for the price they assumed it would go for.
Yes.. Give into your hate. It is the only way you can destroy me.
Grats! Still waiting for mine, but expecting it early next week. CCP In-Game Event 2011.11.23 GÇó Nyio GÇó Grenade? GÇó Forums |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
308
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Posted - 2011.12.10 06:09:00 -
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Aww, I guess they finally crumbled from the insane amount of posts..
"The Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó Community Forums are currently unavailable as we make improvements and prepare for launch. They will be available again on Tuesday, December 13th. If you have questions or require support, please contact Customer Service"
CCP In-Game Event 2011.11.23 GÇó Nyio GÇó Grenade? GÇó Forums |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
23
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Posted - 2011.12.10 06:34:00 -
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SOMEONE PLZ CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG ...
WHy no one has LINKED BRO TEAM PILL REVIEW of SWTOR?????????? WHYYYY????/ Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Destamon
Azure Freelancers
3
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:14:00 -
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Akita T wrote:And this is why you stay away from physical copies and only do digital downloads.
Due to a silly move by EA, people outside the launch regions cannot buy the digital version and are forced to go through Amazon et al.
Nyio wrote:Aww, I guess they finally crumbled from the insane amount of posts..
The forums are going to be wiped before early access begins, so this is their move now I guess. The timing is a bit suspicious though; it could have waited until Monday. |
Kambiri Zoltana
the united Negative Ten.
4
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:21:00 -
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The game is going to be hella expensive 60 euros upfront and no trial.
I didnt beta test because of the 20 gb download for the beta. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
23
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Posted - 2011.12.11 01:09:00 -
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I get angry every time someone calls SWTOR plain TOR ...
TOR is like something else, much more effective too btw than playing SWTOR.
#trollin Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Destamon
Azure Freelancers
3
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Posted - 2011.12.11 11:49:00 -
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Knowing about the other TOR, you naughty boy you. Anyhow, get used to it. There are only so many three-letter acronyms to go around, and TOR is already established within the gaming community as another acronym for SWTOR, and no amount of whining on your part is going to change that. There is a little thing called "context" which helps most people distinguish one TOR from the other, but I'll gladly collect your tears |
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