Same ole theme park mechanics with a star wars name and look. Space combat is on rails from my understanding. Kudos if thats your thing, but dont expect new, unique or innovation. Voice acting doesnt count either. For some reason thats the first thing people mention.

Same ole theme park mechanics with a star wars name and look. Space combat is on rails from my understanding. Kudos if thats your thing, but dont expect new, unique or innovation. Voice acting doesnt count either. For some reason thats the first thing people mention.

What, people aren't allowed to enjoy simple mechanics from time to time? Its better than WoW...

WoW has kung-fu pandas, so it's clearly the superior product.

Obviously, everyone knows that pandas make a game better, right?

HEY CCP, WHY DON'T WE HAVE PANDA SHIPS?!

Downloaded at 10.00mb/s.

WOW in space. No thank you.

Lol who said anything about wow? Why is that the default defensive argument in an MMO debate?

I am the only to be really disappointed with the graphics?

I had every graphical setting maxed out and it just felt chunky.

I played lotro from beta and to be honest it is miles ahead visually of SWTOR.

Also for all the people who have had a go at CCP and their character customization.. well Eve is just miles ahead of SWTOR. I could not believe how poor it was.

Have to say I am overall very disappointed with SWTOR

I am the only to be really disappointed with the graphics?
well Eve is just miles ahead of SWTOR.

WOW in space. No thank you.

I am the only to be really disappointed with the graphics?

It seems that you might not be in denial about this game not being as great as you had hoped. And attempting to convince the rest of us it is good, and not the same ole same ole that has been thrown at us for the last 6 years.

I dont think it's a bad game (hasn't been released so can't fully judge), but there's revolutionary about it, or even all that evolutionary about it. This style of 3 person button mash, grind, 0 skill has lost the allure for me, and many others.
For me that means I've already played it/done it. So that makes it a not great game.

Uh... WoW ripoff much? I saw at least a dozen features on the UI that were blatantly ripped off from WoW. And I know they can do better for graphics.

Wow, they managed to make it look worse than KOTOR-1. Go figure.

I know right, but why stop there! Add them as a fifth race to EVE. I bet that would attract millions of players from WoW and possibly even SWTOR, if CCP chooses the design I have here. This new panda race would fit EVE or any scifi game like a glove.This would be a fitting model for their ships and as a bonus it looks like it could have been made by the CCP guy who designed the new scorpion, so it is a totally realistic option. Naturally they would have to have their own CQ and units for DUST.

Looks totally awesome right?

SWTOR would be great, if they had made it a single-player by removing the grind.

Basically, the way I see SW:TOR is like six parallel small KOTOR sequels with worse graphics and a much smaller scope wrapped into and followed by a sci-fi WoW clone.

Not necessarily a bad deal, especially to die-hard fans of SW or sci-fi in general that only didn't bother with WoW because it was neither. But for everybody else, a resounding "meh".

The game isn't out yet but you are already sand in the vag bitter over it.
Honk! Honk! All board the bitter bus to lemon town.

The thing I thought when I heard about this game was:

Who will NOT play a jedi ?

And here I thought I was actually magnanimous by indirectly calling it a better sci-fi alternative to WoW (implying that people that didn't play WoW before would play SWTOR, alongside quite a few people that already play WoW), even if the multiplayer product looks inferior from just about every standpoint to the positively ancient singleplayer root game (which was awesome, back 8 years ago)
And yes, 8 years is ancient in computer terms, that's at least 4 or 5 major generations of hardware.

Well, it seems we EVE folks aren't the only ones who have to deal with dev controversy and forum rage threadnaughts...

It appears that there are issues for folks who pre-ordered the CE version of the game (the $150 version that comes with a statue!). People ordered, thinking that they'd have a grace period from the end of early access until their physical copy arrived in the mail, say from Amazon. Well, as of tonight, the stance has been changed and there will be no grace period.

To further complicate matters, many folks who ordered through Amazon (and others honestly) have had their shipping delivery estimates... moved back several days. Some who ordered on the 21st of July (day 1) and thought they'd be getting the game on release day (Dec 20th) are now seeing delivery as late as the 29th. One person who ordered the CE through Walmart got an updated delivery estimate of Jan3.

Note, it seems Amazon, Walmart, and others will be shipping the standard edition in advance of launch day. This seems to only be impacting the CE version. Several of these online retailers are specifically stating that EA has expressly forbid the early shipping of ONLY the CE - at least that's what is being reported by customers on the forums.

So, early access ends on Dec 19th, and come the 20th, many of these CE folks will be unable to play (lacking their retail keys) for days, possibly weeks or more. Tempers are running hot as you may well be able to imagine lol. It's important to again state, that the no-grace period stance was announced... tonight. Previous statements made clear that there WOULD be a grace period to allow for retail copies to filter through the mail at holiday time.

Now, I'm not one to think this compares to say... $70 virtual monocles (and I said as much), but it is a real kick in the genitals for many people. I'd say this is quickly becoming the TOR forum version of Incarna rage.

Whatever, the real reason I'm posting is this:

A clever TOR forum warrior made this spoof, which is common enough I suppose lol, to describe the situation.

I present, a former leader of Germany (say until the mid 40s or so...), upon being informed his CE copy will be arriving on Dec 26th - not the 20th as he had planned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DFT1Jwf4j0&feature=youtu.be

I've read about this and it seems to be mostly/only? Amazon customers that have this issue.
As for me I'm all set as I was smrt enough to pre-order both the standard and CE editions.

Also good news! Quoted from swtor's site:

"Early Game Access* for Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó is only a few days away! Starting December 13, 2011, The Old Republic will begin emailing invitations to start your Early Game Access. Invitations will be sent throughout the Early Game Access period offering rolling access to the game in the order in which you redeemed your Pre-Order Code, so be sure to check your email inbox!"

And this is why you stay away from physical copies and only do digital downloads.

I got my collectors edition today, and not for a stupid amount of cash. I got mine for the price they assumed it would go for.

Yes.. Give into your hate. It is the only way you can destroy me.

And this is why you stay away from physical copies and only do digital downloads.

Aww, I guess they finally crumbled from the insane amount of posts..

Knowing about the other TOR, you naughty boy you. Anyhow, get used to it. There are only so many three-letter acronyms to go around, and TOR is already established within the gaming community as another acronym for SWTOR, and no amount of whining on your part is going to change that. There is a little thing called "context" which helps most people distinguish one TOR from the other, but I'll gladly collect your tears

Grats. Not sure what price you paid... they assumed it would go for $150, and that's what it went for. The contents are kind of nice... for gathering dust. But it gives you something to do instead of trolling the TOR forums until early access, which is what everyone else seems to be doing.

I have no illusions; I'll likely quit after 90 days or so, but the screen caps bring back memories from SWG.

($55/month on a fiber line and it's still this slow).

Do you have any idea how much I pay for 600kB!? And I live in a ******* city no less! It just appears that there isn't a single provider who has though about actually putting a network node in my ******* neighborhood. Seriously, 600kB was MORE THAN THE LINE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ******* HANDLE.


I would ******* kill to have 1.4mB/s

For example, the sniper's rifle has the best range in the game plus huge alpha, but a long cooldown in the form of a single-shot-bolt-action-reload graphic, that is, if you sit still in one spot long enough to see it.

lol

too bad everyone exploiting the pvp match bug will be level 50 by the time you log in

their forums are on fire

seems that you can get full xp and rewards for a match timing out due to lack of players

perhaps they should have gone with deleting boot.ini

Still waiting for my EGA, though not confident it will be any time soon. IMO they should have let more people in today. The rage of the forums is palpable.

Guy is streaming himself leveling to 50 or whatever the cap is.

Pretty much a WoW clone.

Okay - couldn't wait and bought the pre-release for an extra $5. ROFLMAO...

I am confronted by a severely and radically bad download process that requires craeation of about 4 different accounts including a master account for "Origin" that says it "may create an Origin account from my SWTOR account info". The crusher are the security issues. The security system has prevented me, a paid cilent, from accessing paid-for content. I am in a terminal loop where I have paid-for access codes and the system thinks they have "already beed used"... The customer support is so overwhelmed that they first say "we can only answer security questions via phone call", then the phone maze says, "We only answer security questions" and "Call back later". Um, but, I have a security question ... and when is "later" ???

ROFLMAO ... if you can step back and ROFLMAO. This is gunna go down as the worst release in the history of gaming ...

I'm sure two weeks from now all will be well and there will be light sabres aplenty blazing in PvP battles. I saw the vidz with toons wielding dual-double-beam light sabres. Can't wait to get there.

And to get in a dig on CCP :: my station windows ALWAYS open in the same position, with the same size and config as the LAST WINDOW OPENED across two accounts on two different computers. Can't you get your object inheritance rules straight ? Customer Support has given me a non-effectual fix. I have a feeling CCP will never get it right, and the BioWare dudes will get it all working after an admittedly rocky start up.