Graphical prettiness really isn't the big deal here; the quality of the game has more to do with the actual gameplay than anything else. Shiny graphics are nice, but long-term retention of players is always a question of gameplay. Admittedly, development of art and gameplay are orthogonal concepts, and focus on the one shouldn't impact focus on the other, but of the two, the gameplay is always the bigger deal.

Regardless, though, art and rendering are always going to be client-side issues, not server-side. If the art was available to be rolled out, any delays would have less to do with their servers, and more to do with client-side performance... aka, how well it will actually run on your machine.

graphics are a low priority compared to...well everything else.

perhaps you should wake up.

Bet you play Minecraft!

Bet you play Minecraft!

I have heard that CCP DOES HAVE THE IMPROVED GRAPHICS READY, but because of their slow servers, they cannot go public with it as it will affect the gameplay too much.

They also need an overhaul of the explosions. In World Of Tanks, each tank has a few unique explosions when it is destroyed. I hate seeing a huge Battleship instantly disappearing replaced by a small explosion graphic. It should be seen to explode properly not the poor way it happens now.

I hope they see some of the sense I've tried to make here. I like that you can communicate with CCP; they DO listen to their supporters, unlike the larger franchises, and I like them being an independent Icelandic/Scandinavian company against mainly American opposition, so I will continue to back them for as long as I can.

I just hope they act soon before the subs numbers decline irreparably.

after years of dwarf fortress and roguelikes, I've some to the conclusion that graphics don't really matter, its only the casuals who think about them so hard.

Wow, we're in the top ten? Eve does better then I thought it would.

But seriously though, the new games are too different to take away the crazies populating Eve, I think we're safe.

graphics are a low priority compared to...well everything else.

perhaps you should wake up.

"Elite: Dangerous is an MMOG, but with the important addition, that you can choose if you want to meet other players or not and there is even a mode to play fully offline."

Taken from the Elite: Dangerous FAQ.

Sounds just like Eve online doesn't it? *Coughs End sarcasm here coughs*



World of tanks also doesn't have to deal with the possibility of 100 vs 100 vs 100 fights.

They also believe in hard facts as well, change doesn't come easy, and you must PROVE OR HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO INVEST IN CHANGE.

do you have proof that sub numbers are declining?

I don't consider myself a casual (at least not in EVE terms), but Is still don't want to play ELITE (wireframes only). I want a feast for the eyes as well as awesome gameplay and mechanics.

graphics are a low priority compared to...well everything else.

perhaps you should wake up.

Is ship customization (paint, skins) dead in the water at this point?

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Suppose it would be rude of me not to respond to such a lengthy reply.

On your final remarks, I do not have to prove anything, I am stating my opinion.

But I am seeing that other games are coming out with greater and more powerful graphics, as I said, higher res models and full 3D support.

When I play Eve I want to marvel at the craft, at the wonder of space how it could look in a REAL galactical environment. It is almost there, I believe, just needs a tad more to push it back up to among the best looking games on the market.

Of course, looks are not everything but they do add rather than the converse to the experience.

And if CCP did not consider they require better models then WHY DID THEY DESIGN THEM!!?? Because they have been made, it is just the client or whatever that needs upgrading.

It's all well and good to say, "We like Eve the way it is now, please don't change a thing!" You can't stand still and expect people to stay, or be charged -ú15 a month!!

CCP are not standing still, I would say, but they may need to get the priorities in order.

At least changing the explosions for ships as they have in World Of Tanks would be a small graphical upgrade. As for the problem with 100+ battles going on with all that animation, that would be down to the quality of the user's hardware settings, so long as Eve supplied the content, which at the moment they don't (they only give a 'token' explosion which looks a bit poor)!

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The big one has already been stated. Flashy graphics catches people eye and gets more people to try it.

good graphics and effects grab people attention and make them try the game.
off course its not what will make them keep playing but if people dont get curious and try at all they wont keep either.

Why should it be low priority? What has the Art Department to do with Game Balance, Game Mechanics, Code Base, Website Maintenance, Server Maintenance?

High-res textures are basically done, and that would be a huge upgrade in of itself. Ship painting/customization is next on the list, followed by more cosmic anomalies, i.e.: comets, solar flares, radiation storms, etc.

Is that true about the cosmic anomalies?? Coz that's something I've been asking about for ages and would make space more exciting in Eve.