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Garia666
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 17/07/2006 08:07:24 It would be nice to see that those two guysÆs giving comment in the matches. Would do that in a more appropriate manor. With that I mean maybe give comment in a more neutral way. (Like they do in other sport matches)
In my opinion you guyÆs talk to much downgraded about the people and there ships.
For example if you only listen to the comment about the KAOS typhoon... ItÆs like way under the belt. Also what you guyÆs do or like in EVE isnÆt really an + for the match thatÆs going on.
Plz DonÆt get me wrong here. EVE TV is awesome and I love the live matches just be a bit more professional on your comments since this game is with people and people do have feelings..
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Xaarist
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:07:00 -
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imho it "lives" from being not that professional. found me with a grin on my face once and in a while. i did not see that typhoon scene you're refering too though. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD... |

Ajaya
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:19:00 -
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They're not unprofessional, it's just that they play the game, and like anyone who plays teh game, there are those they dislike for whatever reason, and those they like for whatever reason, and no matter what that will bleed over into their commentary, as nuetral as they try to be.
Honestly, I think if they were truely neutral the commentary would be rather boring. |

Garia666
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ajaya They're not unprofessional, it's just that they play the game, and like anyone who plays teh game, there are those they dislike for whatever reason, and those they like for whatever reason, and no matter what that will bleed over into their commentary, as nuetral as they try to be.
Honestly, I think if they were truely neutral the commentary would be rather boring.
Well i dont totaly agree with you there. ( you can give comments on the actual way of fighting ) But i dont think you shouldnt take it on the ship type.
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Josiah Bartlet
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:36:00 -
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Some people can find problems with anything cant they? Why not just enjoy it and realise they are spendign their time to bring this to us. I seriously doubt they get paid. --- SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |

Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:38:00 -
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agreed with this topic.
Also would be a nice idea to get interview from the Team leaders. Interests for the other Teams and/or TV users.
Also would be nice to get EvE-TV all the time. Like 1 hour per week with news or so.How the eve-radio.
Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:39:00 -
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my favourite: Oh my god, did u see that... sabre going down in 15s... what a display of firepower...
That is annoying and ridiculous. However i only hope for gate camps with logistic drones out. --------- Boost caldari. It will reduce whining on forums due to the fact: 45% chars are mostly caldari specialized. |

Word Wench
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:41:00 -
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whine whine whine . . my lord, some people feel the need to go out of their way to complain about anything they can . .
"Oh, he talked bad about this guy's ship or tactics, that's just wrong, whaaaaaa".
You are either one of those tree-hugging liberals who think "every kid's a winner" in sports OR you are too young to understand how the world really works.
Stop complaining and just sit back and watch Eve TV and enjoy it. If you can't do that, then turn the channel.
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 17/07/2006 08:45:00 Right, I'm sorry but you've got to give Al Haquis a go, he lives in Iceland so there's no excuses!
Last time round Al did some commentary for the Ushra'Khan matches on their own ts server (he was their spectator/sub blokey) and they were absolutely fantastic, half of the BoB directorate were on the server ****ing themselves laughing.
I recorded their first match against V which can be found here. Be warned, there's some mild swearing.
Al Haquis for God 2006.
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.07.17 08:51:00 -
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most of the coverage was pretty good, the only prob was that the comentaters had dated information, they didnt know that most of kaos had left ect (adga gone to lv and species to ascn ect) one of the comentaters even said that he rarely played nowadays so wouldnt it have been a little better to have someone that does?
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Pegas
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:00:00 -
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The comentators on EVE TV imho were not that bad. Ofc a bit more impartiality would be nice, but otherwise they are doing a great job.
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Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:07:00 -
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Best part is that their voice/tone level and choice of words makes it sound professional - their game knowlegde is alot better than the 1st tournament, but still has some way to go :)
I'm defintely enjoying watching EVE TV!
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:22:00 -
[13]
someone call the whaaambulance ffs :s
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion I recorded their first match against V which can be found here. Be warned, there's some mild swearing.
"It looks like everything's happening!"
"Take down that ******* drone ******* thingiemabob!"
"Light Darkness with a stupid name still has a ship..."
ROFL!!!! Yes, I wanna hear this guy on EVE TV!!   -
History of the MC movie! |

Tanya Kovacs
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:37:00 -
[15]
Well sometimes say are talking to much about other things then the action on the battlefield, so they are missing things.
Sabre is killed by other ships. After some minutes "Uh where is the Sabre?" 
Anyway: I like biased moderators :) -- All my postings reflects just my personal opinion and my lacking knowledge of proper english.
There is no lag in EVE \o/ |

Degaal Valen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:40:00 -
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What they really need to do is have one of those token sideline female reporters like they have over here for American Football. Some woman tooling around in a covops telling us pointless anecdotes about how one side likes to read Art of War quotes before their matches.
Also I haven't heard anything that sounded like favoritism more just that they are expecting certain people to win. The one match my alliance had that I got to watch they didn't expect us to win and made that abundantly clear but they seemed happy to note that our representatives did better than they expected. I don't think that's favoritism.
It stands to reason a well-entrenched alliance with older characters is going to outperform newer and/or smaller alliances. This isn't favoritism.
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Tadis
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:42:00 -
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Oh lighten up guys.
They are doing it for your entertainment. They dont have to, no one involved does.
But they volunteer and try and make your Eve experience better.
I dont think you'll find any other game out there doing the same.
So perhaps dont complain, be happy with you got, and appreciate the effort they are going to ya? ___________________________________
NRG Recruiting |

Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:03:00 -
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Stavr0s is the new Alan Hansen. .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |

Dao 2
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ajaya They're not unprofessional, it's just that they play the game, and like anyone who plays teh game, there are those they dislike for whatever reason, and those they like for whatever reason, and no matter what that will bleed over into their commentary, as nuetral as they try to be.
Honestly, I think if they were truely neutral the commentary would be rather boring.
a lot of the comments make it seem like they dont play the game.....
aye and smashing on kaos was stupid, theyre thoroughly kicked ass too ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
Also the gal |

Kcel Chim
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:28:00 -
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there are 3 options how you, the listener can react.
a) take it serious and be grumpy about it (no fun and ruins a fine and unique experience)
b) dont stream in and listen to your own sources or reports a day later (this way you dont get worked up)
c) take it like any sports commentatory with a grain of salt and enjoy it, we just had the football WC and the comments there were also awefull and unprofessional alot of times (this way you can enjoy the game and make fun of the guys doing the commenting - something they dont mind since they dont take themself too serious either and know they are not pro gamers nor uberpvpers)
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:48:00 -
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theyre doin an awesome job imo.
i mean all of us know the details they sometimes get wrong, but their comments are fclassic and its good fun to listen to em.
unintential jokes for the win ;) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Mi'zuro
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:50:00 -
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At least the Typhoon had the last laugh when it downed the Rattlesnake.
The commentary has been ok so far, I just wish they'd focus a little more on what's going on and less about how long it is before they can go to the pub. 
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:52:00 -
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I'd only ask that they avoid eating during matches. LIstening to the guy trying to comment on a match with his mouth full of food was kinda frustrating... ---
Sanguine Legion - Forums |

Karach
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:52:00 -
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mah there are 2 "schools" about comments
one more "professional" that say the commentator should just report what is happening adding a technical comment where necessary.
and one more "entertaining" where the comment is not stricli inherent to what is happening but it adds color with opinions or past experience of commentators.
both are valid and have pro and cons, first one risk to become a bit boring as basically you are alredy describing what people see on the screen, second one risk to become a bit out of place with people speaking of everything exept what is happening.
peronally i prefer the second "school", and i think is also nice that commentators express their opinion about a certain ship (maybe not about a name :P) or a strategy as long it doesn't became just bashing but ther's some motivation behind it.
imo they are doing a good work, the only real comply i have to do is that sometimes they speak one over another (but probably will get better as they will get more used to comment battles).
and for the phoon (<3 phoon) yup i agree, and for sure they don't know the ship too much, but in the end it makes it better when you see the rattlesnake go boom and the phoon happyly fly around  
(i'm also a bit surprised that there where so few phoons, i think is quite suited for this kind of engagement, waaaay more than tempests... but that's another story )
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Tecam Hund
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tecam Hund on 17/07/2006 11:02:40 I think the commentators did an awesome job tbh. Didn't find them to be overly in favour of either side, and if you limit yourself to absolute neutrality the comments would be dry and uneventful.
It was entertaining how they commented on KAOS team I think. They underestimated the Phoon in hands of a skilled pilot and in the end it made KAOS victory more exciting. I, for one, came close to cheering out loud when it sucked command ship dry and it went down in seconds. Then a Rattlesnake kill \o/
So in short... Sports matches commented in a proper a neutral manner make me fall asleep. It might be good if you don't see them on TV because you can actually have a clear picture of whats going on, but we all have screens in front of us and can make our own judgements. Overall it was amazing fun.
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2Shae
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Posted - 2006.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: 2Shae on 17/07/2006 11:17:06 AL Harquis ftw!!!
"their crow pilots still alive, ooopps oops"
"quite a job to bring down that thingmy bob i ****** that twice three times maybe more, thats not an easy thing to do"
"light darkness with a stupid name is still alive"
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Mned Graydroggen
Satal's Legion
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Posted - 2006.07.17 11:19:00 -
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I enjoyed the show alot. The only thing that made me grumble at times is that the commentators are talking so much around that they miss ships going down..
Hey they lost their sabre, or did they ? Lets have a look, yes the ship went down.
On another note. Would be cool if the camera could follow the commentators. Several times there where frigs moving in to kill the drones, would like to have seen that.
Anyway, constructive critisim is never bad imo.
Kudos to the team though. Had a great day watching the show :)
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Epsilon 1
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2006.07.17 11:21:00 -
[28]
"There's NOS coming out of the deimos!!"
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.17 11:22:00 -
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seem to be good commentators but the problem seemed to be in the knowledge of certain ships.
too many times I heard them call a destroyer a recon ship or hear them say "that megathron must be setup for close range damage" when clearly the megathron is heading AWAY from the fight and is shooting rails (its kinda obvious when hes not making any attempts at approaching and the firing effects are for rails...)
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Wanmeili
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Wanmeili on 17/07/2006 12:04:45 Edited by: Wanmeili on 17/07/2006 12:01:49 To be fair, who could possibly be counted on to provide total, expert PvP commentary for a game with a cult following like EVE? I think they've been decent so far. Bias is to be expected, sometimes. After years of watching women's tennis with Chris Evert commentating matches with Steffi Graf, the EVE commentators are practically impartial.
I bet no one would get that reference.
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Hardin
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 17/07/2006 08:45:00 Right, I'm sorry but you've got to give Al Haquis a go, he lives in Iceland so there's no excuses!
Last time round Al did some commentary for the Ushra'Khan matches on their own ts server (he was their spectator/sub blokey) and they were absolutely fantastic, half of the BoB directorate were on the server ****ing themselves laughing.
I recorded their first match against V which can be found here. Be warned, there's some mild swearing.
Al Haquis for God 2006.
Sounds like Ramruqai on speed and other hallucogenic drugs. Not that I have ever heard Ramruqai on drugs - but it is what I would I would imagine he would sound like 
------------------------------ Hardin's Blog (BACK UP!)
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Hardin
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:10:00 -
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I think commentators have done a good jobs so far. Its not easy to track all the action and then talk about it and mistakes are inevitable..
However I am upset with Stavros for his 'roleplay' comments 
I certainly do not go running round woods shout 'pew' 'pew' at people. I only do that at home  ------------------------------ Hardin's Blog (BACK UP!)
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DjDangle
Euphoria Released Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:12:00 -
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Hehe, lots of people sounding like lil girls here.
It's a bit of harmless fun, if you can't take criticism, your prob playing the wrong game.
I hear there is a good one for the nintendo where you look after cute furry dogs, might be better for you...
Cry me a river, build a bridge, get over it.
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Al Haquis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:26:00 -
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Uff
The Internet does not forget. IŠm so going to give you a pay back Alasse.
Brings back ace memorys. But the Eve Tv are doing ace, guys just admit it you love it when commentators say somthing you dont like. Gives you a reson to post on the net. :)
At last want to say Team Fishcakes and Bob FTW.
P.S : Amarrians suck .
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Council Member, Tahiri Warrior Masuat'aa Forums

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Coahim Madden
Syncore Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.17 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Coahim Madden on 17/07/2006 13:08:39
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Stavr0s is the new Alan Hansen.
That was what I was thinking when I saw him on EVETv. -------
Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.
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Havelcek
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.17 13:23:00 -
[36]
Dudes, forget about the commentators? How about the guys in the dinner-break interviews and player-pieces? Talk about hysterical...man some corps out there need to not be allowing their members on EVE-TV...you know who you are =)
Highest of comedy...EVE-TV ftw

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DeWieKat
Xenobytes Stain Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.17 13:28:00 -
[37]
i think they were o.k. , its not easy to sit there in front of a camera that provides the show for 6000+ eve players and comment multiple engagements for the whole day.
ok, this red haired guy, stavros his nick was i guess, he was bit of a s-mart-ass, but it just might been a self defencive thing, which is very common in this kind of situation.
good work guys, keep it up ;)
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Pride NL
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 13:43:00 -
[38]
Respect for the commentators to comment on the events on the fly. It must be very hard. The knowledge of the guys is pretty good.
Only as said, they should be more neutral and not so biased as they are now. Its annoying for the opponents viewers.
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.17 13:52:00 -
[39]
Seconding the suggestion that they interview the FC's after the battle. Would be interesting to get their input as to what happened. Would have the added bonus of taking up more air time so that the commentators won't have to kill time in between fights.
But this suggestion aside I am thrilled with the way the fights are being broadcast. I'm having a great time watching the rounds on Eve TV while chatting about it over alliance TS and in game.
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Kryztal
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:00:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Kryztal on 17/07/2006 14:00:20 bleh whiiine.
Think they are awesome, wouldnt want some old farts with a stick up their bum beeing all professional and no play. Keep up the good job guys *\o/*
BobÖ Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain |

Rift Scorn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:00:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Stavr0s is the new Alan Hansen.
    
Brilliant Fitz!
So does that make Ifni Gary Lineaker? 
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03! |

Mr Gonzales
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:04:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion here.
That's fantastic
'[someone]'s getting murdered, which is ok, he's used to that'  'oooooh, bing badda boom, POW!'
I agree. Get this guy on EVE TV :P
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War Ping
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:04:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Rift Scorn
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Stavr0s is the new Alan Hansen.
    
Brilliant Fitz!
So does that make Ifni Gary Lineaker? 
Martin OÆNeil tbh
Gary Lineker = host ;p
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War Ping
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:10:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Mr Gonzales
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion here.
That's fantastic
'[someone]'s getting murdered, which is ok, he's used to that'  'oooooh, bing badda boom, POW!'
I agree. Get this guy on EVE TV :P
at least let him watch and do it on some ts 
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Exus
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:13:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Edoo Commentator: And this crow is going down fast.... 3....2..........1..........and there we go......its about to pop.......oh yes this is how we like it....................................................actually..its still alive.
   
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Morpheous Kleen
12-Gauge Kaos Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:30:00 -
[46]
hmm with all these people qouting the commentators i think someone should make a sound board of all these qoutes :D could be fun 
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Serelon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:35:00 -
[47]
Seriously
Get teh Al onto eve-tv, it can't possibly go wrong. 
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Irimi Nage
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:40:00 -
[48]
<3 Al - he truely is a god amongst men :)
Every time you're in a gang with him, it's just non-stop gold quotes.
---
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Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:44:00 -
[49]
Just give me Howard Cosell and John Madden.
The current crew is doing fine, quit your whining and grow some skin. Sheesh
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:57:00 -
[50]
1. They are much better than last year 2. Its much harder commentating on eve than you think. 3. Eve T.V. is great. What other MMORPG would offer this? 4. Were you expecting John Madden and Pat Summerall?
DM
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.17 15:02:00 -
[51]
I think they are doing a grand job, it's not like they are getting paid.
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Wierd Beard
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.07.17 15:10:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Wierd Beard on 17/07/2006 15:10:57 I really enjoyed the commentators. Considering that they're not professionals and I'm guessing, have little to no broadcast experience. They were stellar. Sure they'd be critical at times. But thats what commentators do. Comment and analyze. If they can give me a bit of a chuckle while doing it. Even better!
The only truly bad thing I can think to say was that I had a hard time finding enough bandwidth to keep the video streaming smoothly. But I eventually found a good mirror and all was pie.
Great job EvE-TV! Looking forward to the coming weekend 
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BenYGW
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 15:45:00 -
[53]
EVE TV is amazing, no other game has done anything like it and even tho the comentators arnt totaly professional they still do a great job, and it just makes it more ammusing to watch. Its just a shame that when someone offers advice they get instantly flamed about it. |

Tao Han
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:26:00 -
[54]
I'm pretty impressed with it all tbh.
Never thought I would be watching EVE matches on the TV, and the commentators are doing a good job.
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.17 16:40:00 -
[55]
Stravos 4tw.
"Why do you think the RED team did so poorly in the last fight?"
"Do you think it had anything to do with the lack of player owned structures?"
------------- Recruit me |

Monarch
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Posted - 2006.07.17 17:39:00 -
[56]
The commentators spend most of the time regurgitating past experiences and not discussing events on the field. More than once the have been arguing over garbage when a ship has been destroyed. IÆd be nice to have more insight as to what tactics are being used and the movement of the pieces on the field.
It is however 100% better than the last time when they didnÆt know what a Heavy Assault Cruiser was.
The guys on the couch need proactiv, makeup and a diet coke.
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DrDevice
The Priory Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.17 17:56:00 -
[57]
I must admit, i think its only the commentary that keeps it watchable.
when it takes 5 ships a good 5 minutes to kill one ubertanked zealot its not exactly a right riviting watch, so i think the spout rather a lot of rubbish without it sounding too much like rubbish :)
so keep up the good work people, and lets face it unproffesional, controversial comments make for much more interesting comments :)
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 18:01:00 -
[58]
I think their proffesionalisim is excellent personally, sure they make comments, but so does Motty, it's what makes him so uber tho. I'd rather have someone with a slight bias in him commentating than a robot.
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Sean Dillon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 19:04:00 -
[59]
If u know how they should do it, do it yourself.
I think they did a good job. They try to bring some sensation to it.
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Purgatori
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 19:23:00 -
[60]
Bah .
Disagree with the topic .
The EVE TV and each person on it, Has been fantastic . I stoped watching TV, Stoped playing EVE to listen and watch EVE TV . The Comments made were fine . Lets see a bit of humor here geez guys lighten up .
This is the best thing EVE has brought to us . Live TV and i bow to the people invloved . They've done a great job and looking forward to watching the next parts .
On a side note. Cant please them all can we!
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Raid
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 19:27:00 -
[61]
IMHO they need an expert on the couch. Stav, while being an interesting personality doesnt know whats going on half the time. Sure he's fun to watch but you really need an expert up there.
Enter Joshua Foiritain.
Who better to talk about those tiny obscure alliances than him? He can be on teamspeak and answer questions regarding alliances and be as neutral as its gonna get.
Just a thought.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 19:32:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Raid IMHO they need an expert on the couch. Stav, while being an interesting personality doesnt know whats going on half the time. Sure he's fun to watch but you really need an expert up there.
Enter Joshua Foiritain.
Who better to talk about those tiny obscure alliances than him? He can be on teamspeak and answer questions regarding alliances and be as neutral as its gonna get.
Just a thought.
Good call tbh.
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Degaal Valen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.17 19:36:00 -
[63]
My best friend is blind so when we watch a movie or play an American football simulator I still have to tell him what is going on on the screen.
Commentating is about 100x harder than you think it is, trust me.
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krissi79
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Posted - 2006.07.17 20:49:00 -
[64]
Tyrrax looks like a hippie 
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Sykosys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 21:12:00 -
[65]
My favorite EVE TV comment had to be the one where they were discussing the large amount of missles ships (Caldari)
Then they sadi something about how with missle ships you just need to press F1 to f8 LOL
I thought this was funny.
Also on a side note that man Al Haquis was the one who took me under his wing an taught me the senseless way I PVP. It shows by the number of ships I have actually lost LOL
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Manus Ghostface
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 22:15:00 -
[66]
I think the coverage has been pretty good, I was sick a lot of the weekend so missed the early matches. It definately raises the bar for online games, especially when you consider the size of CCP and the player base compared to EQ, DAOC or WoW.
CCP is definately the dog with the most fight pound for pound.
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Roule
Catalyst Reaction
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Posted - 2006.07.17 22:16:00 -
[67]
The best commentsi heard from them were the comments about red alliance, about been upset coz they couldnt use the logon trap and at the next fight they would have to bring a badger and pop a tower out to stand a chance of winning. Those comments were genious
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Gabriel BriGGs
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.17 22:42:00 -
[68]
They are doing a good job, but things that I would suggest..
1. Less chitchat, more play by play. 2. Don't diss the losing team to badly. 3. Keep the dirty talk to a minimum. Some of us watch the whole session of eve tv, or atleast listen to it, and we hear the same things over and over sometimes. 4. in the play by play, try and let us know what kind of battle it is.. are all 10 ships going close combat? are some trying to take range positions? is the HAC manevuring with the command ship? etc. it's hard for us to see what's going on exactly on the tv, so the commentators could do a bit more detailed play by play i think. I know itsprobably hard when they dont control all the cameras and what not
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Knuck
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 22:58:00 -
[69]
Fantastic job, really enjoying the coverage. Yeah there was the odd time where I was yelling at my monitor (FFS OFC THE DOMI ISN'T MOVING THEY HAVE A ******* RAPIER :p) but just goes to show how immersive and entertaining the whole thing is. Nice work Eve TV guys 
lol @ Al Haquis, yeah they really need to get him in there 
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Stampert
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.17 23:01:00 -
[70]
I think the commentary has been excellent and fun to watch. Especially with the dig at Remedial 
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Horb
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.18 00:53:00 -
[71]
While at times the commentators say some unimpressive things like...
Shock and awe reactions when a destroyer gets blown up...
and asking why they haven't seen many zealots in the tournament when there is one every other match...
and just sometimes reporting wrong information regarding what a ship can do...
I will say I have been extremely impressed with the commentary overall. They have sounded confident and have really added to the enjoyment of EVE TV. They have a very good grasp of the game and can explain it well. These guys are commentating on video games. Not like CCP went out and looked up a bunch of resumes on monster.
Did anyone here the first tournament on eve radio? The DJ refused to uncloak so he could target and give damage reports because he was afraid of being blown up. These guys are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.18 01:52:00 -
[72]
I dont know how often they paly eve but when they do they must play with roids or Serps or something... they are to slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
You see the smaller ships especially getting little damage, trying to fly away getting weebed going half armour then boom. Then 30 secs later they say... "it appears we have lost the Jaguar of so and so... what happened there? We will wait for confirmation..." Lol guys... its a pvp contests you have to keep your eyes on the ball.
Its like watching a prat Chinese DVD with the subtittles lagging 3 scenese behind.
A few free tips:
You see a small ship getting a lot of damage and reaching structure then nothing happens. He is not "holding his tank" he has managed to fly away / built transversal /has disengaged. Peel your eyes off him... you dont have to comment for 20-30 secs on whether he is taking damage or not. If the red is not moving on a ship with 4-600 hp on that part of it then nothing's happening by Jove. Tell us about the HAC about to explode on the other side of the screen.
You see Ravens holding shield at 70-80% continuously and you say : "Omg they cant break this tank evah" Folks thats active shield tanking and it is NOT sustainable. You should rather say: "Now we will have to see how long his cap charges will hold"
You comment often how last ship standing from the losing squad has rep drones on it. It is his own drones. They slowly came back since they had nothing to repair. They are not helping him.
You were talkign about a Mega doing no damage blah blah and what a bad choice blah blah blah on a game on Sunday. you completely missed the point where his team had a Rapier to begin with but that was blown up so the bad guys were all over him and his guns wouldnt track. read ships and mods a bit.
Also short range set ups webbed a long range away from target by Rapiers/Huggins or frigs are dead in the water. Dont ask yourselves "what is their plan? What is that Domi doing?" All he is doing is cursing his luck trust me....
You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them. Since he was last man standing their was no booster/boosting. Generally only BSs have so many hitpoints that it is difficult to make sure wether they are reping actively or not. In smaller ships if you are seeing a linear progressive breaking of the shield tank it means its passive....
Anyway nm thanks for trying your best... pay more attenion to whats happening because those who cant understand these things are not particularly enlightened by the comments.
On the bright side I have seen some improvement from Day 1 to 2 to 3.
Finally the camera men should set some sort of standings to the teams so we can see say 5 red and 5 blue dots of some sort ... this will give a far better insight in whats happening...
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Ceratin
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.07.18 02:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 17/07/2006 08:07:24 It would be nice to see that those two guysÆs giving comment in the matches. Would do that in a more appropriate manor. With that I mean maybe give comment in a more neutral way. (Like they do in other sport matches)
In my opinion you guyÆs talk to much downgraded about the people and there ships.
For example if you only listen to the comment about the KAOS typhoon... ItÆs like way under the belt. Also what you guyÆs do or like in EVE isnÆt really an + for the match thatÆs going on.
Plz DonÆt get me wrong here. EVE TV is awesome and I love the live matches just be a bit more professional on your comments since this game is with people and people do have feelings..
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Degaal Valen What they really need to do is have one of those token sideline female reporters like they have over here for American Football. Some woman tooling around in a covops telling us pointless anecdotes about how one side likes to read Art of War quotes before their matches.
Also I haven't heard anything that sounded like favoritism more just that they are expecting certain people to win. The one match my alliance had that I got to watch they didn't expect us to win and made that abundantly clear but they seemed happy to note that our representatives did better than they expected. I don't think that's favoritism.
It stands to reason a well-entrenched alliance with older characters is going to outperform newer and/or smaller alliances. This isn't favoritism.
In all seriousness... ive followed "TV/cast" in several other games and honestly... the female VJs/casters always literally triple or quadrouple the turn-out. Seriously...
I've been really enjoying EveTV, as a newbie. I'd agree that they could show a bit more impartial flare at times, but it's understood that they are players with passion... and they are honest about it (real bias tries to hide itself).
My final comment is for all those involved in EveTV to keep doing the 'we have a question from a newbie' types of segments and to remember that not all viewers understand or care about 20 minute diatribes about pure technical issues.
It's the overall team strats and such that are most fun, and of course the social/alliance drama tidbits are also fun. Just keep in mind, guys, that you're promoting a game we all love in doing this so... be nice. ---------------------- Ф Blood Eagle ---------------------- |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.18 06:02:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Crellion You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them.
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ph33rf4ct0ry
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.18 07:59:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Crellion You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them.
Gang modules are high-slots.
The pwn was hard here
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Distrans
Pech und Schwefel
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Posted - 2006.07.18 08:07:00 -
[77]
EveTV I liked the CCP-Interviews, the cuts, the second studio moderator - well done.
But please come up with some new commentators for the fights. Maybe friends in real life (like we have Netzer and Delling commenting football in Germany - comedy gold) with some subtle humor. Guys who are on par and have decent game knowledge without getting lost in technical details.
Xod came over bored and arrogant ignoring and shrugging off the other commentator all the time. None witty or uplifting at all. Can I meet your shieldtanked Typhoon? *fits 2 snowball launchers* 
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SengH
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.18 08:30:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Crellion You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them.
Gang modules are high-slots.
While running gang mods he still doesnt have cap to tank though. The drain is pretty big.
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Axristos
EPSILON TEAM Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.07.18 08:30:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Purgatori Bah .
Disagree with the topic .
The EVE TV and each person on it, Has been fantastic . I stoped watching TV, Stoped playing EVE to listen and watch EVE TV . The Comments made were fine . Lets see a bit of humor here geez guys lighten up .
This is the best thing EVE has brought to us . Live TV and i bow to the people invloved . They've done a great job and looking forward to watching the next parts .
Agreed
It was a funny weekend and I am waiting to see next round. don't give up guys eve needs that kind of shows.
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UnknownHuman
12-Gauge Kaos Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:33:00 -
[80]
I 100% agree with this topic. Lemme add some things. The commentators are way out of line when they are routing for people ship destruction just cause of the way the ship looks. That to me is ridiculous. Each alliances depending on if they really want to win or not is spending a ton of isk to finance the mods and the ships and for a commentator to be routing for destruction like that is just appauling.
Also, I am just sooo happy that KAOS shown the commentators and the "Experts" that they were all wrong about the Typhoon and it is indeed a great ship to pvp in. And people dont need Fleet issue this or that to win.
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Aquiesce
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 19:25:00 -
[81]
to be honest the commentary has been pretty good so far, only bit that i really laugh about is when they lose ships and they turn up every now and then.
only negative is their obsession to talk about BoB during every fight and every bit between every fight.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:49:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Crellion You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them.
Gang modules are high-slots.
See what I mean. They need somebody that can fly the darn ships and understand what they do. I dont fly commands so for me.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:53:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Crellion on 20/07/2006 00:54:17
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Crellion You commented how a Vulture went down too fast on an occasion. If you had looked close you wuld have seen that the ship was not repairing at all. The "gang support" commands can have 3 mids taken up with gang modules leaving another 3 for the tank. Some use only hardeners there and let their gangm8s support them.
Gang modules are high-slots.
The pwn was hard here
Yup. (Now he can have something more than a single Enyo kill of me on the MC KB )
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Garia666
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 10:34:00 -
[84]
well it seems allot of people have something to say about it. I hope the commentators have read it and try to keep a couple of things in mind.
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Zembla
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 11:44:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Tanya Kovacs Well sometimes they are talking to much about other things then the action on the battlefield, so they are missing things.
Sabre is killed by other ships. After some minutes "Uh where is the Sabre?" 
QFT.
This is something that threw me off personally. I decided to rather watch the matches without sound than hearing stuff like that. It's a bit like watching a good footy match on tv, if the commentators really don't know their stuff and are just yapping and trying to be interesting I'll be focusing/irritating myself on that instead of on the footy. I'm not saying they're that bad, but they should be focusing more on the match yes :p
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MEANmichine
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Posted - 2006.07.20 11:46:00 -
[86]
Good job, very interesting and informative, i learned some things there, would like to see TV more often as a teaching aids for us noobs to pvp.
please keep up the good work
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:19:00 -
[87]
OK, now that i've really caught up on most of the coverage, i can properly comment.
First of all, i just want to say i think you guys have done an EXCELLENT job overall. That goes to everybody involved with this. The first day obviously had some technical challenges, but it came together well.
So, i hope the rest of my comments are taken as constructive feedback...
Camera
No more tight close-ups and spinning uber-camera work, please. That's nice for a pretty promo video but not good for live coverage when peopel observing really are interested in information not Teh Pretty.
I'd request that the HUD be shown almost 95% of the time so that viewers can fully see the overall "score." If you do any close-up shots, keep it back a bit and really focus on showing the support activities (support, drones, etc). We know what bew bew bew and bang bang looks like. We are tuned in to watch a match not eve itself, generically.
Live Talk
Focus more on what we cant see well. It's great to get the updates on ships dying and i think even tho we can sorta see that as well, it's useful to call it out (i.e. "the flycatcher is dying fast!"). HOWEVER, what we cant see well and you can... are all the drones and support inter-relationships.
Half the battle is about the teamwork going on out there on-the-fly and i'd like to hear much more focus on that stuff. I want to hear immediately if logistic drones switch to another ship, etc. We can see if ships are taking damage, but that other stuff isn't being fully captured in the coverage. If there's 1 thing that could be done better in the commentary is to really try to focus on capturing all that stuff.
Overall Eve-TV & Tournet setup
Perhaps this isnt controlled by Eve-TV, but it would be nice to have more "overview & analysis" time pre-match about the specific ship rosters in the upcoming fight.
In other words, right now we sometimes have the couch potatoes quickly discuss the upcoming roster but IMO that should be done consistently and be a main focus of this. General discussion about the alliances is fun, but what matters are the ships put on the field. As with sport, pre-game analysis is ROSTER oriented. It should be the same in this tourney.
I dont know how early the rosters ar announced, but i think for the overall success of this project they should be required at a precise time before the match. Enough time to allow proper discussion (and betting/smacktalk) but not so much that the opposing team can do more than adjust tactics.
Surely some might argue that it oughta be a surprise to the opposition at the moment of the match start, but i think that's less of a legitimate factor in a tourney of this caliber and the overall success and popularity should take precedence over some 2 minute sense of surprise. If you need that extra surprise to decide matches, then this isnt really the type of fighting the fans want.
So, i'd like to see more discussion right before the match about the 10 ships and the 2 teams based on actual ship rosters. That allows folks to really ask questions, make predictions and discuss strengths/weaknesses BEFOREhand which is great for observers and the entire Eve-TV project.
Anyways, i have to say im fairly new to eve and really enjoying this tournament. I hope these comments are useful.
Ф Blood Eagle is a state of mind...
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natashii
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:32:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Edoo Commentator: And this crow is going down fast.... 3....2..........1..........and there we go......its about to pop.......oh yes this is how we like it....................................................actually..its still alive.
bahaha. yeah i was dying of laughter at that point.
Or when they are like:
"OH WOW, that Ishtar's shields went down fast...I guess its over ladies and gentlemen"
/everyone in eve screams "IT'S BLOODY ARMOR TANKING FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!"
But EVE TV 4TW ;) Keep it up. It's fun yelling at your screen. ==============================
For God's sake, shake me. Shake me like a British nanny.
Shoot 'em all in ze face!
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