Which is why, and I said this very clearly in my past few posts, I merely hope that CCP investigates any potential abuse of this exploit very thoroughly.

*shakes head*

You're trying really hard to not understand this.

They can't investigate jack ****. Any time in which someone looked at their API is 100% of the time a legitimate action, thanks to the fact that there are so very many accepted ways to use it.

Also, CCP should immediately remove the bit of the API that allows for this exploit to occur in the first place.

Aside from your continued misuse of the word "exploit", you are correct.

If they are able, they should patch that out. If not, then they should give up on the pointless siphon concept and just remove them from the game, to be replaced with something that wasn't so ill conceived.

And I don't imagine NOT uploading data for everyone to see is particularly difficult.

You'd think so, but clearly not.

CCP and all that. Still, now that someone has actually pointed a big'ol finger at the exact problem, there shouldn't be any problems in removing it.

Regardless of the above, still not an exploit to look at your own API data.
I mean what options would we have to avoid it if it were an exploit? Refuse to look at our API data? Unreasonable. Pretend we didn't see it? Unreasonable.

It wouldn't be an exploit to continue using the API, but if it was used explicitly for this purpose without CCP being told then it was an exploit.

Oh, likely, yes.

I still find it funny that, apparently, no one from the dev team who designed these things actually bothered to check.

And you prove this how?

Yup, thats right. If any of you have put a Siphon on a tower belonging to CFC/PL/N3 or any other Sov holding alliance your Siphon was detected through the API end point. Something that CCP said " wouldnt be possible". Since all the major nullsec sov holding alliances knew about this and used it, they should all be fined all the moon goo they have mined since the siphon units were released in game.

They knew about this and contiuned to use it without notifying CCP. Which would be an Exploit.


Source.

It's pretty similar to being able to see the notification mail when someone attacks your POS through the API - clearly an exploit knowing when you're being attacked...?

Or worse, you see the killmail of your structures. You know someone is there shooting up your stuff.

/c

It's pretty similar to being able to see the notification mail when someone attacks your POS through the API - clearly an exploit knowing when you're being attacked...?

Or worse, you see the killmail of your structures. You know someone is there shooting up your stuff.

/c

thats it, REPORTED!!!

thats it, REPORTED!!!

In general nothing is an exploit until CCP says it is.

But once they do, you'd best listen. Claiming ignorance or continuing to use it because you think you can't get caught is a ban wave waiting to happen.

Just sayin'

Mr Epeen

Well people said from the beginning that siphons don't do much and some times I hate being right, though my reasons was that I couldn't be arsed to baby sit a one.

It should definitely go on that direction: defend and live on your territory or loose it.

The difference is there's no notification for the Siphon Units and there isn't supposed to be one. It's not like pulling the numbers from the API and doing the math is an automatic thing that just pops up in front of you and you can't help but look at it. If that's what was being done, without telling CCP about it, then it was an exploit.

It's pretty similar to being able to see the notification mail when someone attacks your POS through the API - clearly an exploit knowing when you're being attacked...?

Or worse, you see the killmail of your structures. You know someone is there shooting up your stuff.

/c