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Karazaan Rakyra	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:44:00 - [61] Are you the one that asked an Impoc? (my shortest post EVER!)
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:45:00 - [62] Just to help things along. (and salt the wounds) If CCP would like to have a US gathering, this is how it's done. http://www.pennyarcadeexpo.com/registration.php#exhibitreg Clicky Keiron. You register, we show up. Someone else does all the hard work. End of story. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Buster Bloodvessel	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:50:00 - [63] Damn - I missed the drama. Why couldn't you leave it up a little longer? wystler stole my sig
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:51:00 - [64] Originally by: Tachy Originally by: Vincent Gaines Are you or did you ever consider joining ISD instead?[...] You do not need teal chat for answering questions. Lately many teals do not even correct stuff they know to be wrong info while lurking or chatting in help. Or they're busy elsewhere. Elsewhere is not the rookie help channel according to rookies stumbling into the help channel. Many new teals are seen once or twice, never to appear again. If I hurt some teal's feelings with this, ... who cares. Some of you do an outstanding job and I guess you know who you are. it has nothing to do with chat color. it has to do with doing what ISD does. If you want to help, then help out. You could have joined ISD then if you had any problems taken care of it in private. as far as I can tell BhB threw a fit in the help channel because HE wasn't satisfied with the level of help. It's not like BhB is the only person to ever spend a lot of time helping noobs in the channel. Many others do it as well. The drama of the whole matter amazes me. this one incident ruined a great event for many other players. And the actions of BhB are to blame. If he would have acted like a mature individual none of this would have ever occured.
Azrael Bierce Elite Storm Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:59:00 - [65] Does anyone have a copy of the site anywhere? I quite enjoyed the in game guide. What happened to the site staying up til Aug 1?
Helplessandlost Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:08:00 - [66] After reading this entire thread and the apparently taken down EveGathering.com private e-mails all I can say is wow. BB you are taking this way out of context and your continuing posts show that you have as others have stated an inflated ego and importance issue with yourself. I would recommend you yourself re-read your messages to and from Kierion where you start off rational and then go off on a tagent. Now when you are re-reading those pretend for a moment that you are not you and you will see what we are trying to tell you. You broke the rules, you got warned, you blew it up, you got banned, you continue to blow it up way out of proportion and you wonder why people CCP wants to dissasociate with you. For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter. "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
BlackHole Bob Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:17:00 - [67] Originally by: Kurren Edited by: Kurren on 19/07/2006 16:46:00 Hmmm... I enjoy elitist behavior as much as the next guy, but if I was in CCP's shoes I'd have kicked you with them too. Don't go on and on about being a FREE site when that is simply a turn around from bashing VOLUNTEERS. Now, the problem is, you've ruined it for anybody else that wants to throw an Eve Gathering in the States. CCP will probably assume we have some form of association with you, or are you in alt form. Honestly though, anybody can make reservations at the Hard Rock Casino. Why exactly have you proclaimed yourself as special? Who are you again? A nobody. A somebody. A paying customer. You are me with a different avatar. The only difference is one of us has ruined any attempts for a gathering in the future for the rest of us. Thanks. Nobody cares that you'll be removing your guide. I'm sure any novice with a question can log in to the HELP CHANNEL and ask. Problem solved. Go be a somebody special somewhere else. edit - spilleng then tell CCP to throw you a Fanfest in the USA and see how far you get......or better yet since I am just some lucky sod anyone should be able to doit... If you think I personally ruined it for the whole USA fanbase all I can do is laugh....and say THANK YOU! CCP is kewl..ISD is NOT...CCP stands behind ISD...but they are not the issues... no one cares about my guide?? my webserver stats say other wise...keep throwing the hate over here. I have my superman hate cape on...feel free to blaze into help channel and ask your questions... Blackhole Bob CEO: R-U-OK Corporation In Game Player Guide EvEGathering.com
BlackHole Bob Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:19:00 - [68] Originally by: Helplessandlost After reading this entire thread and the apparently taken down EveGathering.com private e-mails all I can say is wow. BB you are taking this way out of context and your continuing posts show that you have as others have stated an inflated ego and importance issue with yourself. I would recommend you yourself re-read your messages to and from Kierion where you start off rational and then go off on a tagent. Now when you are re-reading those pretend for a moment that you are not you and you will see what we are trying to tell you. You broke the rules, you got warned, you blew it up, you got banned, you continue to blow it up way out of proportion and you wonder why people CCP wants to dissasociate with you. For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter. My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback Blackhole Bob CEO: R-U-OK Corporation In Game Player Guide EvEGathering.com
BlackHole Bob Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:21:00 - [69] my last post ...CYA...it was fun!.... Blackhole Bob CEO: R-U-OK Corporation In Game Player Guide EvEGathering.com
DirtyHarry Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:23:00 - [70] I personally find ISD hard to communicate your point to, they police the areas they are in charge of with a "****-like" fashion. Now ingame I got gagged once in the help channel for making the point that scamming was a path that new players could take if they so chose so and it was not against the rules (rules set out by CCP not moral rules), and im not even going to mention the stupid reasons I have been warned/tempbanned from this forum as it would no doubt lead to more nice emails in my inbox from mods. HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event. No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey --------------- Havocide - Old School For Old Fools F-E Forum // RKK Forum

Helplessandlost Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:25:00 - [71] Originally by: BlackHole Bob Originally by: Helplessandlost my stuff My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback Well considering you associated and have named your company more then once in relationship to the EveGathering I would say the two have been inter-related by you. "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
Sinlare Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:32:00 - [72] Originally by: DirtyHarry HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event. No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey BB forgot to mention in his 'explanation' that he replaced his site after his ban, with the most awful page full of swearing and accusations directed at people at ccp and other things more nasty.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:34:00 - [73] Originally by: BlackHole Bob Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 19/07/2006 15:41:07 Originally by: DirtyHarry My question so I can judge this matter is: What did BB say to the support staff after his ban? was it racist, sexist, RL threats or just extreamly angry/agressive? I DON'T want to know exact words as that would breach the forum rules and get myself/you a warning, just want to know the general idea in what was said so I can decide if Kieron/CCP were right in their decision. thx <3 i got banned for telling a ISD member to start answering questions and stop policing the channel and lurking all the time, when he warned me for posting a part of a petition, that showed a distraught player whom just lost his first big ship, where I was reimbursed for a raven a while back to give him hope all was not lost, as he just got jacked and was a newer type player, and was frustrated and was asking about ship reimbursement...hoping all was not lost while other's laughed, said "good luck with your petition LOL" and all that, I posted a offical DEv response where they replaced my raven due to a game bug. It gave him hope to not loose faith that eve was a bit to harsh... for that I was told and warned I would be banned for posting even that, from a ISD member who was lurking instead of answering questions. He just popped in, policed me and was not answering any questions. So basically I was perma banned for telling ISD to get in there and help these people as I was answering 3 players at once on most mornings for hours on end for many many months and I have helped in that channel for over two years......after they policed me for posting the reimbursement petitons first two lines, to show this guy, CCP will help you if in fact EvE did have issues that caused his ship loss... I got banned for posting part of my petition and then telling the ISD completely off when it was more important to him to enforce the rules while he lurked and was watching players seriously struggle....including he knew very well I was a wrecking force answering machine in help channel at a high level for a LONG time. I had just had enough...something this minor escalates to this today....because its more important to FOLLOW the RULES to the LETTER then to actually provide answers and really help in the help channel. there its explained Looks like you were a moron and out of line, and paid for it. For all you know, that ISD was working with people in private convos, or had just logged and was catching up on the channel. Regardless, you have no right or authority to tell them how to do their job, and you are not allowed to post petitions or GM responses from them. You may have been trying to help, but you were wrong in what you did, and you just made yourself even more wrong by attacking ISD. No sympathy here, and if I bashed ISD like that, I'd expect CCP to not want anything to do with me, or any gatherings I'd run, as well.

kieron	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:38:00 - [74] Blackhole Bob, thank you for your efforts in hosting the player gathering earlier this year, your efforts with the IGB help guide and other contributions made to the EVE community. If you chose to depart from the EVE community, those contributions will be missed. To the players saying recent events are going to have an impact on a US player party hosted elsewhere, rest assured they won't. CCP's focus is the FanFest, but we will continue to support player events. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Kurren Farscape Mining	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:39:00 - [75] Originally by: Sinlare Originally by: DirtyHarry HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event. No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey BB forgot to mention in his 'explanation' that he replaced his site after his ban, with the most awful page full of swearing and accusations directed at people at ccp and other things more nasty. People do that. It's called denial. Everybody thinks too much of themselves to "incriminate" (I couldn't think of a better word...) themselves and make themselves look bad in their own eyes. Themselves themselves themselves... I do see a game ban coming though. Albeit, I'm not the most civil of forum posters, but I can see his reactionary attitude blowing up in his face. He's tried to publicly humiliate CCP and Kieron personally. He's insulted a respected group of volunteers, again, publicly. Then, when told to stop whining and view it from another's perspective, we get _teh flamez_ as well... publicly. Something tells me he's the only one not noticing this pattern, but a good hardy punch to the ban_button might open his eyes. --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:41:00 - [76] Originally by: BlackHole Bob Originally by: Helplessandlost For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter. My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period... That doesn't matter. If they see it, it will not reflect well on you or OMG OMG PROCORE PRODUCTIONS (as I seem to recall it being called) Originally by: BlackHole Bob my last post ...CYA...it was fun!.... I don't buy this
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:43:00 - [77] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 19/07/2006 17:45:42 Originally by: BlackHole Bob CCP is kewl..ISD is NOT...CCP stands behind ISD...but they are not the issues... ISD members, STAR in this case, quite cool. You're just a self-righteous ***** that can't admit they were wrong. You get punished, you didn't like it, and instead of doing the mature thing, you cry and scream and * and show everyone your true colors. And if you were such a great helper, why didn't YOU join STAR? Surely you'd have risen in their ranks in no time since you're so much better than them, right? Originally by:** BlackHole Bob My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback Considering that you had it showing on your site, yes it does.
FooB2 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:46:00 - [78] last post? do you promise? so, you got "permabanned" (yet, are still able to post here), by ISD because they enforced one of thier own rules, and you threw a hissyfit because you are not exempt from this rule? the only mistake CCP have made here is letting you stay here this long. www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:49:00 - [79] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia And if you were such a great helper, why didn't YOU join STAR? Surely you'd have risen in their ranks in no time since you're so much better than them, right? Malthros, I think you've missed the point. Obviously STAR wouldn't see Bob's clear superiority over them, because they just aren't clever enough. For example, none of them are capable of writing such an obscene rant as Bob did after the ban. That is a true demonstration of intelligence, maturity and suitability to help
SpaceDrake Taleweaver	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:23:00 - [80] God, just ban him already and be done with it. I spoke my piece the last time we had this little runaround. Though I do wish I had seen his rant this time for comedy value... anyone save the emails? --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?... Plays "Amarii Oulasangeri" ingame. Andre got solded!

Mtthias Clemi Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:34:00 - [81] BB hasnt posted for a while.. do you think he has actually gone this time?? we can only hope.. nice responce from kireon there, respectful, to the point and pleasant... a lot to be learned there
Dafuzz Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:02:00 - [82] I have been toying with the idea of doing something like this in Florida. Time to put some real thought into it. -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:04:00 - [83] CCP were obviously just proved right in distancing themselves from you. Your expectations of them were unreasonable considering your recent behaviour. And yet you just repeat that behaviour again and sit there wondering why thy won't do as you've asked. Concerning your ban from the help channels. If you cannot understand the reasoning behind making GM / Dev -> Player communication regarding exploits and re-imbursements private, then you really shouldn't be sat in the help channels in the first place. You did know that this was the case, but you still went ahead and did it because you could justify it in your own mind. That, in itself, is pure arrogance. Thinking the rules don't apply to you because of some fantasised justification is presumptuous beyong belief. You could have achieved your aims of consoling a new player in numerous other ways; but you chose to knowingly break the rules. Live with the consequences of your actions, stop blaming everyone else for them. \| The BIG Lottery \| BIG Sales \| 962306 \|


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