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Syndra Dreams
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:10:00 -
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Good day everyone,
As the longtime CEO of EvEgathering.com in the silent back ground, I am sad to inform you that EvEgathering.com, after 3 years, will be shutting down permanently on August 1st 2006.
Our final news article tells why.
It has been a fun ride.... we will miss so many pilots we know and the community overall.
We wish each and everyone one of you great success.
To Acix Reborn and EvE-NN.com news network... You are the ****nit and we lub you dearly. We apologize to you personally Acix.
oh and we still have our accounts active...so attempting to troll up and start the hatred about quiting eve wont work here....
We are not quiting our accounts....
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TricksR4Cats
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: TricksR4Cats on 19/07/2006 11:16:02
you know what, I don't even know what eve gathering is, but reading that "news" article left me with the impression of a big, long-winded whinge at something. You're having a temper tantrum and sticking 2 fingers up at... someone.. ccp? las vegas? the community? I dunno. It seems a bit childish to me.
EDIT: yay first!
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Sinlare
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:19:00 -
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Make sure Blackhole Bob gets some professional help, there is seriously something wrong with that guy. |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:19:00 -
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Sad to see such a good site go. It was a very good resource and I personnally found it useful on a number of occasions.
Goodlook with all your future endevours.
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Saine
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:22:00 -
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Best add it to the list.
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Boonaki
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:22:00 -
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Don't **** off the devs if you want their support.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:31:00 -
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k, cya.
www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming |
Martinus Crimson
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:34:00 -
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I've red every ******* mail Kieron typed and they all made perfect sense to me, after what BB did with his whole helpchannel issues.
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
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What a sad day in space 
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:36:00 -
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Dirty pool posting that stuff from kieron on that site. After reading it, I felt slightly soiled that I'd even gone to the evegathering site in the first place.
Over reacting and acting the twelve year old having a tantrum is no way to do business with a professional corporation, regardless of motivation.
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FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Martinus Crimson
I've red every ******* mail Kieron typed and they all made perfect sense to me, after what BB did with his whole helpchannel issues.
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason.
you know, even though saying this acronym for the first time probably throws me into the depths of being an official forum *****, but......
QFT
www.EVE-Gamers.co.uk - YOUR community for EVE Gaming |
Jon Hawkes
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:37:00 -
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You may want to take the "Heading into 2007..." banner off the front page then...
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Eldo Davip
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:38:00 -
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Please keep it civil. To not try to flame/troll, CCP/Devs, Blackhole Bob or Eve Gathering as a company.
Regards,
Eldo Davip
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Ander
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:39:00 -
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I read a lot of accusations about CCP "black balling" someone.
From the following mail conversation, I first see one person apologizing for his past misconduction. The responce to that mail is rather harsh, but if you're given several chances to improve and yet goes on with the same stuff you can't be expected to be forgiven the 5th time you repeated the misconduction.
After the reply of CCP it looks like that person made a big rant once more + on these forums..
Not taking sides, but using evegathering's big footprint for ones own vendetta is silly. It's not at all surprising that CCP decides to pull support rather than listening rants of one person using a platform built by many.
Also... the volunteer politics/discussion shouldn't be open for anyone outside volunteers/CCP. But that's just my opinion. We had too much intrigues on the forums about the volunteers in the past. Dont want to see that again :)
EVE PIRATE
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:51:00 -
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Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 11:51:00 -
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It's obvious that the reason CCP would pull support from EvE Gathering is that they don't want to become more tied to an organization that posts private communications, and demonstrates a historic pattern of questionable judgement.
It's a shame really, but the fault isn't CCP "black balling" anyone, it's CCP protecting their interests from an obviously volatile organization.
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R3dSh1ft
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:01:00 -
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I agree with Kieron,
He is only trying to protect the community from the seriously offensive temper of BB, did any of you see his site after the 'incident' before.
That would make a hardened felon cry...
I appreciate the work that has been put into eve gathering as a player, but as a member of the community I wouldn't personally want CCP associating themselves with a guy like that...
BB used up his 9 lives and then some.
As for the accusations of selling unlicensed material, I dont see anywhere Kieron implied that, only that there should be no implied or explicit statement that CCP endorse the gathering. On the other hand they give you free permission to use EVE logos and the forums to advertise it...
I'm not exactly a fanboi but I have to think Kieron has made the right decision by the community here.
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite
Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
Thats the impression I got too.
Pretty low blow posting private communications publicly I might add.
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Kahlen Rahl
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite
Quick summary (the way I understand it anyway)
player: CCP will you help us with this thing we're doing? Yes or No, either is good, just let us know.
CCP: No. You've misbehaved badly, we're not risking it.
player: WTF? You said NO?? That's not what I wanted to hear. Please say yes.
CCP: Ok, we talked about it some more, but it's still No. Sorry.
player: You suck. I'm taking my website down. Hah, that'll show them.
That might be, but please stick this in front of your little summary:
player: CCP, will you help us with this thing we're doing for the first time? We're not sure it's gonna pan out, but it would be real cool!
CCP: Sure, we will have Oveur, TomB, ActiveALLi, LeMonde and Kieron + some ISD staff there. We'll also bring prizes and some exclusive stuff to this event we're not sure will work out as well.
player: Great, well, it was a success! the place was packed, we had Urban Mongral (from EVE Radio afaik) there to host the Q&A session, everyone had a really great time! There were some nutters that even came all the way from Europe JUST to be here and meet the Devs (and their US based corp members and friends). Even CCP said they liked it and were happy we did it!
--- months pass ---
CCP: you did a bad thing in help channel bob. prepare to be CCP'dokkend!
player: bah, I'm real sorry. It was my personal emotions getting a bit out of hand there. OF course, I was just suddenly kicked out of a channel I've been helping in for over 2 years, I set up the only big EVE meeting in the US and I've done some other good things (like the newbie IGB guide).
CCP: We don't care what you've done or haven't done for the community, get lost.
player goes ahead and still tries to get the whole thing off the ground ....
--- continue with the part ms. Fernite posted please.
Now maybe you see there is a bit more to it than just someone asking for help from CCP without any prior contact of any form, besides the obvious thing that happened in the ingame help channel. (I know a few details about that as well, which I won't share here, as my personal views don't matter much in this discussion.) There are always 2 sides to every discussion.
Just think about it. Posting the email conversation with Kieron might be a bad move, it was done however AFTER the final decision was sent to Bob. I could well imagine being ****ed and dissappointed as well. |
Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:22:00 -
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Yay, finally.
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Sensor Error
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:25:00 -
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so you shout and scream, and cause a lot of trouble on these forums, and then complain and throw a tantrum when CCP start to ignore you? You could quite easily hold the gathering anyway, tone it down a bit so you're not paying $10,000 a day for a premium venue, get a lower cost one and do it for the fans. So what if CCP arn't coming? people WILL still come. Just look at the London meet. Ah well, nice knowing you!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Mulkir
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Martinus Crimson
Get help and quit whining, CCP doesn't support you anymore and imo they have a damn good reason.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:29:00 -
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With all respect and empathy due to the people that have worked hard over at EvEGathering who are experiencing a loss...
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
Posting the email conversation with Kieron might be a bad move,
Might have been a bad move? If it was such a bad move - why is it still up there? Isn't this type of reactionary "bad move" further evidence that CCP made a wise decision?
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
it was done however AFTER the final decision was sent to Bob. I could well imagine being ****ed and dissappointed as well.
After the final decision? If the intention was to just "talk the talk" so CCP would support the event then kudos to CCP for their instinct and decision. I would have thought the the trust that the CCP / EvEGathering relationship was built on would have extended further then "well, they aren't involved anymore, so now I can say whatever I want."
The word integrity comes to mind.
I'm not a CCP fanboi either, and I have been outspokenly critical of directions they have taken, but this here deserves a big "thank you CCP" for protecting the best interests of their game, and by extension protecting my favorite past time!
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Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
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My summary covers what is posted on your site. I don't know, nor do I care a lot about what happened before.
If CCP as a business don't want to affiliate with you and yours, that's their decision. Throwing a hissy fit over their decision is just more proof that CCP made the right decision.
Ayway, the point of my summary was to illustrate something. Perhaps you missed it.
First you ask CCP nicely if they still want to cooperate. You say that either a yes or a no is good, all you want is an answer. Both 'yes' and 'no' are good, as long as there's an answer.
The answer comes, it's no, and you go off like a 3 year old in the supermarket that just heard his mother tell him 'no, you can't have this piece of candy'. And you come here looking for sympathy? Good luck with that.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:44:00 -
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After reading their recent drama, I'm beginning to think that maybe Blackhole Bob would make a better goonswarm director than organiser of events 
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Xriss Ravana
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:46:00 -
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What happening in the ingame help channel? Just for us people out of the loop :P
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Gariuys
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 19/07/2006 12:49:24
Originally by: Eldo Davip
Please keep it civil. To not try to flame/troll, CCP/Devs, Blackhole Bob or Eve Gathering as a company.
Regards,
Eldo Davip
Seeing as my post was removed you thought it was flaming but it's not. Seeing how responds to the whole situation I think he needs help in sorting out some issues. I'm not saying he's bonkers or anything. I'm saying that reacting like he's doing is not healthy for yourself or your enviroment.
And this is not disucssing moderation. 'Posting this in his best interest. Hope he does something with it.
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Rolath
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:51:00 -
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YES I LIKE CAPITALS BEFORE ANYBODY SAYS ANYTHING...
YOU SAID YOU WERE QUITTING BEFORE... 3 DAYS AFTER YOUR OFFICAL STATEMENT WAS DUE
YOU SAID SORRY AND CAME BACK.. WTF WAS WITH THAT?
NOW YOU SAY YOUR GONNA CONTINUE PLAYING EVE, BUT VERY PUPLICIY LINK TO A SITE WITH CCP COMMUNCAE... HAH! NEVER USED EVE-GATHERING, DON'T NEED IT. YEA I LISTEN TO EVE-NN AND YOUR VOICE IRRATATES ME.
NOW ******* LEAVE THE FORUMS ALONE AND STOP WHINING BOBBO.
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Ann Mari
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:54:00 -
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I must say... After reading through all those mails I think you threw a very childish temper tantrum.
You repeatedly say that you'll understand if CCP doesn't want to continue to work with you, and when they politely say that they don't want to work with you, you throw a tantrum.
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"There can be no justice, if rules are absolute"
"The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
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Jags
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:54:00 -
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You act like a fud with a company what do you expect ?
Shouting and screaming , abusing volunteers and staff members.
Sorry you reap what you sow.
As much as your work to set up Eve gathering 2007 was admirable , your conduct elsewhere was and continues to be deplorable IMO and the fact that you are acting like a petty 4 year old kid throwing his toys out the pram pretty much sums it up.
Gotta back CCP 100% on this one.
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Archon Doom
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Archon Doom on 19/07/2006 12:55:30
nvm
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xriss Ravana
What happening in the ingame help channel? Just for us people out of the loop :P
Blackhole Bob got banned a while ago. Rather than take it like a man, he replaced the entire evegathering.com site with a long, vicious and obscene rant about the volunteers in ISD. He then went off on a huge hissy fit on the eve forums, and announced to everyone he was quitting.
Several days go past, Bob calms down (a bit), site comes back.
Several months go past, Bob tries to get Kieron to support another event. Kieron says "ummm... not after the **** episode". Bob has another hissy fit, thus demonstrating kieron's responses were totally justified.
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Garia666
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:04:00 -
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I think its very sad when ppl who put so much time and effort in the community leave in such a way.
Take care and thanks for what you guy`s have done for the community
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Kahlen Rahl
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eilene Fernite
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
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My summary covers what is posted on your site. I don't know, nor do I care a lot about what happened before.
If CCP as a business don't want to affiliate with you and yours, that's their decision. Throwing a hissy fit over their decision is just more proof that CCP made the right decision.
Ayway, the point of my summary was to illustrate something. Perhaps you missed it.
First you ask CCP nicely if they still want to cooperate. You say that either a yes or a no is good, all you want is an answer. Both 'yes' and 'no' are good, as long as there's an answer.
The answer comes, it's no, and you go off like a 3 year old in the supermarket that just heard his mother tell him 'no, you can't have this piece of candy'. And you come here looking for sympathy? Good luck with that.
Dear Ms. Fernite,
I would hereby like to inform you that besides knowing Bob ingame, and having been one of the European nutters that flew out to Vegas, I have no further affiliation with EVE Gathering, R-U-OK, Procore or whatever in any form.
Please refrain in the future of referring to www.evegathering.com as 'my' site, as there is nothing there I could claim ownership of.
My post was purely intended to highlight the situation, and provide *some* background to an otherwise wierd story for most.
Thank you for your time.
With kind regards,
Kahlen Rahl |
Nihn Lemai
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:15:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Xriss Ravana
What happening in the ingame help channel? Just for us people out of the loop :P
Yea, I second that. I want the rest of the story. What did really happen?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:18:00 -
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I think posting the emails didn't really help the attempt to lay the blame elsewhere and get some sympathy
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:20:00 -
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As far as i can tell its your own fault, anyone who reacts in such a childish way deserves to be treated like a child in my honest opinion. Never used the site, didnt go to the gathering. I support CCP fully on this one.
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Bull Slater
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:33:00 -
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I'm in agreement with the majority here that your attitude and actions in those e-mails (posting them for all to see is very unprofessional in any business!) is a very bad decision and I can see why CCP want nothing to do with your event. You might have done a lot to help and ran a very good event in 2006 (I have no idea, I wasn't there and don't know about it) but that doesn't make you immune to punishment for bad / stupid / immature behaviour towards CCP staff, volunteer or otherwise or entitle you to special treatment (personal message from kieron as to why you were banned). You're a paying customer, but so are the majority of players and I doubt many people who have been banned in the past have had e-mails stating why they've been banned unless they e-mail to ask first. I imagine most would also realise what they've done to warrant the ban.
You ask for a simple "yes or no" but when you get it, you want more and ask what you can do to rectify it but are told it's not possible then throw a real hissy fit, stamping your feet and saying "if I can't get my way I'm taking my ball and going home" except the ball is the website. If you want to close the website then close it but the way you're going about it with links showing those e-mails in what looks like an attempt to get support for your cause is not a smart move.
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BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:45:00 -
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let me be clear since i was sleeping when Syndra posted this....
Evegathering.com is no more....no temper tanturm here, though some of you see it that way I am sure...we are just leaving...why should we continue to do this when obviously most of you really dislike us that posted here as well as kieron did the right thing in "protecting you" from the aweful blackhole bob.
It was a great ride...
feel free to point out the obvious...thats why I personally posted it late last night to our site...we know our errors...we wanted you to see them also..we also wanted people to know were human to...many think we posted it to somehow cry and whine...we posted it to show how you will be treated if you violate CCP's rules on thier forums and chat channels. We wanted you to see, where you never want to be, if you defy authority....
I posted the email to publically show our errors and beliefs...not to bash CCP or ISD...most of you SEE THAT and ran to berate me not really knowing the whole scoop, just this one email convo......or even seeing that we were bashing ourselves more then anything and stateing we feel pretty bad about it. You all only saw me as some horrible defiant 12 years baby as thats what you were looking for...
we dont want to start some hate war and never did......we just wanted to say so long...and may your journies be good ones in EVE. We learned from our errors... we will take value in that.
I personally would like to thank CCP for thier support of eve gathering 2006....it was great time and thank you very much.
I personally wish to thank a friend in real life, Acix Reborn of EvE-NN.com news network. I also wish to thank the many whom have supported us over time. I also would like to thank those who posted constructive criticism to help us grow...and be better...when we errored.
oh, as for posting so called private communications...and openly flaming CCP into oblivion???...yup I did that to...
I was wrong and we are gone..end of story/drama/and general rabble rabble...
Happy warp trails all!
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
Richard Stryker
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:45:00 -
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Though it saddens me that I won't be able to go to a fanfest much closer to me and cheaper, I feel some satisfaction that I won't be supporting such unprofessional conduct as Bob's. You asked for a simple answer and after receiving it you spit the dummy.
After all this however I do hope that CCP does realize there are a very large number of EvE addicts that would love to have a fan fest in North America. I hope CCP looks at last years success and works with some real professionals to get a bang up gig going in North America for 2007. I for one will be there if they do.
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Graelyn
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 13:53:00 -
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"We were wrong and we're not sorry."
Ya, see ya round. o/
Was greatly looking forward to Vegas 07, but CCP did the right thing.
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia
Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade |
DirtyHarry
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 14:14:00 -
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My question so I can judge this matter is:
What did BB say to the support staff after his ban? was it racist, sexist, RL threats or just extreamly angry/agressive?
I DON'T want to know exact words as that would breach the forum rules and get myself/you a warning, just want to know the general idea in what was said so I can decide if Kieron/CCP were right in their decision.
thx <3
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F-E Forum // RKK Forum |
Netto
Celestial Fleet
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 14:55:00 -
[43]
I was really looking forward to taking CCP's money in the poker game :(.
Met ya at the 2006 Vegas gathering BB, was fun and I saw a ton of potential for 2007. It's a pity it ended like this but what can ya do.
Netto
Celestial Fleet - We care. |
Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.19 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
Originally by: Eilene Fernite
Originally by: Kahlen Rahl
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My summary covers what is posted on your site. I don't know, nor do I care a lot about what happened before.
If CCP as a business don't want to affiliate with you and yours, that's their decision. Throwing a hissy fit over their decision is just more proof that CCP made the right decision.
Ayway, the point of my summary was to illustrate something. Perhaps you missed it.
First you ask CCP nicely if they still want to cooperate. You say that either a yes or a no is good, all you want is an answer. Both 'yes' and 'no' are good, as long as there's an answer.
The answer comes, it's no, and you go off like a 3 year old in the supermarket that just heard his mother tell him 'no, you can't have this piece of candy'. And you come here looking for sympathy? Good luck with that.
Dear Ms. Fernite,
I would hereby like to inform you that besides knowing Bob ingame, and having been one of the European nutters that flew out to Vegas, I have no further affiliation with EVE Gathering, R-U-OK, Procore or whatever in any form.
Please refrain in the future of referring to www.evegathering.com as 'my' site, as there is nothing there I could claim ownership of.
My post was purely intended to highlight the situation, and provide *some* background to an otherwise wierd story for most.
Thank you for your time.
With kind regards,
Kahlen Rahl
I noticed nothing in your post to show that you aren't an associate of BB or of evegathering.com. My apologies for the mix up. Just replace 'you' and 'your' with the proper equivalents of 'BB'. My points still stand.
Thank you for your time.
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Arcsine
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
I posted the email to publically show our errors and beliefs...not to bash CCP or ISD...
That has to be the biggest back-tracking dump I've seen to this date on these forums.
That being said, however, Evegathering.com was becoming a pretty good site, and it will be somewhat sad to see it go - but, alas, to many emotional people are involved in that project.
Also, more importantly, just because you spent bazillions of dollars for your love of the game, it doesn't mean anyone owes you squat. Your money, your decision.
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BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: DirtyHarry
My question so I can judge this matter is:
What did BB say to the support staff after his ban? was it racist, sexist, RL threats or just extreamly angry/agressive?
I DON'T want to know exact words as that would breach the forum rules and get myself/you a warning, just want to know the general idea in what was said so I can decide if Kieron/CCP were right in their decision.
thx <3
i got banned for telling a ISD member to start answering questions and stop policing the channel and lurking all the time, when he warned me for posting a part of a petition, that showed a distraught player whom just lost his first big ship, where I was reimbursed for a raven a while back to give him hope all was not lost, as he just got jacked and was a newer type player, and was frustrated and was asking about ship reimbursement...hoping all was not lost
while other's laughed, said "good luck with your petition LOL" and all that, I posted a offical DEv response where they replaced my raven due to a game bug. It gave him hope to not loose faith that eve was a bit to harsh...
for that I was told and warned I would be banned for posting even that, from a ISD member who was lurking instead of answering questions. He just popped in, policed me and was not answering any questions.
So basically I was perma banned for telling ISD to get in there and help these people as I was answering 3 players at once on most mornings for hours on end for many many months and I have helped in that channel for over two years......after they policed me for posting the reimbursement petitons first two lines, to show this guy, CCP will help you if in fact EvE did have issues that caused his ship loss...
I got banned for posting part of my petition and then telling the ISD completely off when it was more important to him to enforce the rules while he lurked and was watching players seriously struggle....including he knew very well I was a wrecking force answering machine in help channel at a high level for a LONG time.
I had just had enough...something this minor escalates to this today....because its more important to FOLLOW the RULES to the LETTER then to actually provide answers and really help in the help channel.
there its expained 
I
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:42:00 -
[47]
CCP did the right thing. No matter who does what for eve, they can not be allowed to throw tantrums like this that could potentially affect CCP or EVE as a game. Period.
BB is acting like a three year old. Grow up man. You put alot of effort into eve, but you also have a not so good history of this kind of crap. And CCP can't afford to base a real life gathering off of your unstable emotions.
I hope CCP put togther another US event. (I invite them to contact www.penny-arcade.com and just tack it onto the PA expo) But I'm not suprised they made the choice they did. And frankly, the reaction we are seeing now is justification of their choice.
Good job evegathering, you did one decent event. Congrats. Now, when you can be operated by someone without an emotional imbalance, maybe CCP will work with you again.
OH, and all this for being banned from a HELP CHANNEL. Are you ******* kidding me? Moronic. Just curious, but have you heard the phrase cut off your nose to spite your face?
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:48:00 -
[48]
ouch, what a mess.
I guess the best thing to do would be to take a break & chill for a while.
Communicating with CCP / ISD can occasionaly be frustrating, but dont take it to heart man.
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:49:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Pakalolo on 19/07/2006 15:50:04
on second thought, nm, i don't want anything to do with this.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.07.19 15:57:00 -
[50]
Are you or did you ever consider joining ISD instead?
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 19/07/2006 15:41:07
Originally by: DirtyHarry
My question so I can judge this matter is:
What did BB say to the support staff after his ban? was it racist, sexist, RL threats or just extreamly angry/agressive?
I DON'T want to know exact words as that would breach the forum rules and get myself/you a warning, just want to know the general idea in what was said so I can decide if Kieron/CCP were right in their decision.
thx <3
i got banned for telling a ISD member to start answering questions and stop policing the channel and lurking all the time, when he warned me for posting a part of a petition, that showed a distraught player whom just lost his first big ship, where I was reimbursed for a raven a while back to give him hope all was not lost, as he just got jacked and was a newer type player, and was frustrated and was asking about ship reimbursement...hoping all was not lost
while other's laughed, said "good luck with your petition LOL" and all that, I posted a offical DEv response where they replaced my raven due to a game bug. It gave him hope to not loose faith that eve was a bit to harsh...
for that I was told and warned I would be banned for posting even that, from a ISD member who was lurking instead of answering questions. He just popped in, policed me and was not answering any questions.
So basically I was perma banned for telling ISD to get in there and help these people as I was answering 3 players at once on most mornings for hours on end for many many months and I have helped in that channel for over two years......after they policed me for posting the reimbursement petitons first two lines, to show this guy, CCP will help you if in fact EvE did have issues that caused his ship loss...
I got banned for posting part of my petition and then telling the ISD completely off when it was more important to him to enforce the rules while he lurked and was watching players seriously struggle....including he knew very well I was a wrecking force answering machine in help channel at a high level for a LONG time.
I had just had enough...something this minor escalates to this today....because its more important to FOLLOW the RULES to the LETTER then to actually provide answers and really help in the help channel.
there its explained
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:13:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Are you or did you ever consider joining ISD instead?[...]
You do not need teal chat for answering questions.
Lately many teals do not even correct stuff they know to be wrong info while lurking or chatting in help. Or they're busy elsewhere.
Elsewhere is not the rookie help channel according to rookies stumbling into the help channel.
Many new teals are seen once or twice, never to appear again.
If I hurt some teal's feelings with this, ... who cares.
Some of you do an outstanding job and I guess you know who you are.
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BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:16:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
CCP did the right thing. No matter who does what for eve, they can not be allowed to throw tantrums like this that could potentially affect CCP or EVE as a game. Period.
BB is acting like a three year old. Grow up man. You put alot of effort into eve, but you also have a not so good history of this kind of crap. And CCP can't afford to base a real life gathering off of your unstable emotions.
I hope CCP put togther another US event. (I invite them to contact www.penny-arcade.com and just tack it onto the PA expo) But I'm not suprised they made the choice they did. And frankly, the reaction we are seeing now is justification of their choice.
Good job evegathering, you did one decent event. Congrats. Now, when you can be operated by someone without an emotional imbalance, maybe CCP will work with you again.
OH, and all this for being banned from a HELP CHANNEL. Are you ******* kidding me? Moronic. Just curious, but have you heard the phrase cut off your nose to spite your face?
like you have all the facts huh???
let me give you just a few facts now though ... I own and operate evegathering.com soley and no one has any right to it but me. Its not ever coming back...nor is evegathering.com or any event of that nature done by us
these forums indicate jack crap mate...no one else will step up in the USA and have not for over three years now...there are a few reasons why...i leave that to you to contemplate while you stew over this post somemore...
please feel free to hope someone does.....
good luck with that...
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
Galk
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:24:00 -
[53]
They don't like crusaders bob.
You're dead right, but your only allowed to think it.. not point it out...
Expect a damp reaction, just keep it in your own head you did whats right and whats good in the world.
Fair play to you.
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Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free.
We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:30:00 -
[54]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
CCP did the right thing. No matter who does what for eve, they can not be allowed to throw tantrums like this that could potentially affect CCP or EVE as a game. Period.
BB is acting like a three year old. Grow up man. You put alot of effort into eve, but you also have a not so good history of this kind of crap. And CCP can't afford to base a real life gathering off of your unstable emotions.
I hope CCP put togther another US event. (I invite them to contact www.penny-arcade.com and just tack it onto the PA expo) But I'm not suprised they made the choice they did. And frankly, the reaction we are seeing now is justification of their choice.
Good job evegathering, you did one decent event. Congrats. Now, when you can be operated by someone without an emotional imbalance, maybe CCP will work with you again.
OH, and all this for being banned from a HELP CHANNEL. Are you ******* kidding me? Moronic. Just curious, but have you heard the phrase cut off your nose to spite your face?
like you have all the facts huh???
let me give you just a few facts now though ... I own and operate evegathering.com soley and no one has any right to it but me. Its not ever coming back...nor is evegathering.com or any event of that nature done by us
these forums indicate jack crap mate...no one else will step up in the USA and have not for over three years now...there are a few reasons why...i leave that to you to contemplate while you stew over this post somemore...
please feel free to hope someone does.....
good luck with that...
yep, more of the childish hissy fit attitude that has ccp thinking you are to imature to entrust with something linked to them (the game and any gahtering related to it).
Now go away
don't go away mad
just go away...
FRODO HAS FAILED;
BUSH HAS THE RING!!!
The Hippo mating ritual |
ParMizaN
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:31:00 -
[55]
Seems like an immature tantrum from here to be honest; pulling down a guide, and refusing to allow anybody to re-host it..
sig edited for lack of pink really
PINK -eris |
Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:31:00 -
[56]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
CCP did the right thing. No matter who does what for eve, they can not be allowed to throw tantrums like this that could potentially affect CCP or EVE as a game. Period.
BB is acting like a three year old. Grow up man. You put alot of effort into eve, but you also have a not so good history of this kind of crap. And CCP can't afford to base a real life gathering off of your unstable emotions.
I hope CCP put togther another US event. (I invite them to contact www.penny-arcade.com and just tack it onto the PA expo) But I'm not suprised they made the choice they did. And frankly, the reaction we are seeing now is justification of their choice.
Good job evegathering, you did one decent event. Congrats. Now, when you can be operated by someone without an emotional imbalance, maybe CCP will work with you again.
OH, and all this for being banned from a HELP CHANNEL. Are you ******* kidding me? Moronic. Just curious, but have you heard the phrase cut off your nose to spite your face?
like you have all the facts huh???
let me give you just a few facts now though ... I own and operate evegathering.com soley and no one has any right to it but me. Its not ever coming back...nor is evegathering.com or any event of that nature done by us
these forums indicate jack crap mate...no one else will step up in the USA and have not for over three years now...there are a few reasons why...i leave that to you to contemplate while you stew over this post somemore...
please feel free to hope someone does.....
good luck with that...
I don't have, nor have I claimed to have, all the facts. And I don't care.
Let me lay it out for you.
BOB-tantrum and hissy fit about ISD/Banning from channel.
CCP-Yeah, about that, STFU and get over it
BOB-fine, F#$% you I'm taking my ball and going home.
CCP- Yeah, about that, STFU and get over it. and we are done associating with you.
B0B-Fine, whine, *****, moan. Rabble rabble.
Did I miss anything important?
Maybe someone will pick up the torch and have another US event. Maybe they won't. Either way, that is not the point here. And the fact you think it is is simply sad. You provided a service to EVE community. Then you tried to use your status to justify acting like a child. And now you're ****ed that your 1 single effort to pull off a US gathering should outweigh the fact that you are obviously not a stable individual. Which is too bad for all of us.
Bye bob. It's been an interesting ride. And for the eve gathering that you pulled off. Kudos and undying thanks. It doesn't change my opinion that CCP did the right thing here, but it does deserve thanks.
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:36:00 -
[57]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
no temper tanturm here
I was about to link the your leaving message on evegathering.com along with the words "Sir, I beg to differ", but you seem to have taken it down (as you did with the ISD comments before). Taking your little temper tantrums down is an improvement, but maybe at some point you'll learn not to post them at all 
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BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:36:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Galk
They don't like crusaders bob.
You're dead right, but your only allowed to think it.. not point it out...
Expect a damp reaction, just keep it in your own head you did whats right and whats good in the world.
Fair play to you.
thanks, but I am deleteing the site as we speak. At least you read the postings here...thanks for that...it is very much appreciated...
I will keep the IGB Guide, to goto a good home once, I find one....that will keep it up for players...
That guide alone takes in 500+ unique visitors a day at this time....and has for many months now and continues to grow...in one month over 10,000 pages views...being the guides all text, my logs say this guide was kicking butt in eve and then some...
I expected to be brutally roasted here...as you see it does not really affect me....after three years of all this I am pretty numb to forums trolls and the likes....
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
Kurren
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:40:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Kurren on 19/07/2006 16:46:00
Hmmm... I enjoy elitist behavior as much as the next guy, but if I was in CCP's shoes I'd have kicked you with them too.
Don't go on and on about being a FREE site when that is simply a turn around from bashing VOLUNTEERS.
Now, the problem is, you've ruined it for anybody else that wants to throw an Eve Gathering in the States. CCP will probably assume we have some form of association with you, or are you in alt form. Honestly though, anybody can make reservations at the Hard Rock Casino. Why exactly have you proclaimed yourself as special?
Who are you again?
A nobody. A somebody. A paying customer. You are me with a different avatar. The only difference is one of us has ruined any attempts for a gathering in the future for the rest of us. Thanks.
Nobody cares that you'll be removing your guide. I'm sure any novice with a question can log in to the HELP CHANNEL and ask. Problem solved.
Go be a somebody special somewhere else.
edit - spilleng
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SobaKai.com
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Arcsine
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:41:00 -
[60]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
no one else will step up in the USA and have not for over three years now...there are a few reasons why...
You know, you come across as a nice, witty guy on eve-nn podcast - I find it really odd that you come off as some arrogant sob who thinks that he is the best thing that has happened to eve-online, ccp or the United States Eve Gaming community. Well, let me give some, most likely, unwanted insight:
You're just a guy who really likes eve, put up a website and put together a lan party, and luckily got some CCP to come down to that party.
Please, don't say that you can predict that no-one will ever try to have another EVE-USA-Party, or noone has tried. However, I would guess that chances are CCP will now probably decline any invite from anyone here in the US for a future party.
I'm going to let it die now. Will you?
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Karazaan
Rakyra
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:44:00 -
[61]
Are you the one that asked an Impoc?
(my shortest post EVER!) |
Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:45:00 -
[62]
Just to help things along. (and salt the wounds)
If CCP would like to have a US gathering, this is how it's done. http://www.pennyarcadeexpo.com/registration.php#exhibitreg
Clicky Keiron. You register, we show up. Someone else does all the hard work.
End of story.
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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Buster Bloodvessel
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:50:00 -
[63]
Damn - I missed the drama. Why couldn't you leave it up a little longer?
wystler stole my sig |
Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:51:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Tachy
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Are you or did you ever consider joining ISD instead?[...]
You do not need teal chat for answering questions.
Lately many teals do not even correct stuff they know to be wrong info while lurking or chatting in help. Or they're busy elsewhere.
Elsewhere is not the rookie help channel according to rookies stumbling into the help channel.
Many new teals are seen once or twice, never to appear again.
If I hurt some teal's feelings with this, ... who cares.
Some of you do an outstanding job and I guess you know who you are.
it has nothing to do with chat color. it has to do with doing what ISD does. If you want to help, then help out. You could have joined ISD then if you had any problems taken care of it in private.
as far as I can tell BhB threw a fit in the help channel because HE wasn't satisfied with the level of help.
It's not like BhB is the only person to ever spend a lot of time helping noobs in the channel. Many others do it as well.
The drama of the whole matter amazes me.
this one incident ruined a great event for many other players. And the actions of BhB are to blame. If he would have acted like a mature individual none of this would have ever occured.
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Azrael Bierce
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:59:00 -
[65]
Does anyone have a copy of the site anywhere? I quite enjoyed the in game guide.
What happened to the site staying up til Aug 1?
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:08:00 -
[66]
After reading this entire thread and the apparently taken down EveGathering.com private e-mails all I can say is wow.
BB you are taking this way out of context and your continuing posts show that you have as others have stated an inflated ego and importance issue with yourself. I would recommend you yourself re-read your messages to and from Kierion where you start off rational and then go off on a tagent.
Now when you are re-reading those pretend for a moment that you are not you and you will see what we are trying to tell you. You broke the rules, you got warned, you blew it up, you got banned, you continue to blow it up way out of proportion and you wonder why people CCP wants to dissasociate with you.
For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter.
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:17:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 19/07/2006 16:46:00
Hmmm... I enjoy elitist behavior as much as the next guy, but if I was in CCP's shoes I'd have kicked you with them too.
Don't go on and on about being a FREE site when that is simply a turn around from bashing VOLUNTEERS.
Now, the problem is, you've ruined it for anybody else that wants to throw an Eve Gathering in the States. CCP will probably assume we have some form of association with you, or are you in alt form. Honestly though, anybody can make reservations at the Hard Rock Casino. Why exactly have you proclaimed yourself as special?
Who are you again?
A nobody. A somebody. A paying customer. You are me with a different avatar. The only difference is one of us has ruined any attempts for a gathering in the future for the rest of us. Thanks.
Nobody cares that you'll be removing your guide. I'm sure any novice with a question can log in to the HELP CHANNEL and ask. Problem solved.
Go be a somebody special somewhere else.
edit - spilleng
then tell CCP to throw you a Fanfest in the USA and see how far you get......or better yet since I am just some lucky sod anyone should be able to doit...
If you think I personally ruined it for the whole USA fanbase all I can do is laugh....and say THANK YOU!
CCP is kewl..ISD is NOT...CCP stands behind ISD...but they are not the issues...
no one cares about my guide?? my webserver stats say other wise...keep throwing the hate over here. I have my superman hate cape on...feel free to blaze into help channel and ask your questions...
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:19:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Helplessandlost
After reading this entire thread and the apparently taken down EveGathering.com private e-mails all I can say is wow.
BB you are taking this way out of context and your continuing posts show that you have as others have stated an inflated ego and importance issue with yourself. I would recommend you yourself re-read your messages to and from Kierion where you start off rational and then go off on a tagent.
Now when you are re-reading those pretend for a moment that you are not you and you will see what we are trying to tell you. You broke the rules, you got warned, you blew it up, you got banned, you continue to blow it up way out of proportion and you wonder why people CCP wants to dissasociate with you.
For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter.
My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
BlackHole Bob
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:21:00 -
[69]
my last post ...CYA...it was fun!....
Blackhole Bob
CEO: R-U-OK Corporation
In Game Player Guide
EvEGathering.com |
DirtyHarry
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:23:00 -
[70]
I personally find ISD hard to communicate your point to, they police the areas they are in charge of with a "****-like" fashion.
Now ingame I got gagged once in the help channel for making the point that scamming was a path that new players could take if they so chose so and it was not against the rules (rules set out by CCP not moral rules), and im not even going to mention the stupid reasons I have been warned/tempbanned from this forum as it would no doubt lead to more nice emails in my inbox from mods.
HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event.
No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey 
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Havocide - Old School For Old Fools
F-E Forum // RKK Forum |
Helplessandlost
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:25:00 -
[71]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Helplessandlost
my stuff
My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback
Well considering you associated and have named your company more then once in relationship to the EveGathering I would say the two have been inter-related by you.
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Sinlare
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: DirtyHarry
HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event.
No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey
BB forgot to mention in his 'explanation' that he replaced his site after his ban, with the most awful page full of swearing and accusations directed at people at ccp and other things more nasty. |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:34:00 -
[73]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 19/07/2006 15:41:07
Originally by: DirtyHarry
My question so I can judge this matter is:
What did BB say to the support staff after his ban? was it racist, sexist, RL threats or just extreamly angry/agressive?
I DON'T want to know exact words as that would breach the forum rules and get myself/you a warning, just want to know the general idea in what was said so I can decide if Kieron/CCP were right in their decision.
thx <3
i got banned for telling a ISD member to start answering questions and stop policing the channel and lurking all the time, when he warned me for posting a part of a petition, that showed a distraught player whom just lost his first big ship, where I was reimbursed for a raven a while back to give him hope all was not lost, as he just got jacked and was a newer type player, and was frustrated and was asking about ship reimbursement...hoping all was not lost
while other's laughed, said "good luck with your petition LOL" and all that, I posted a offical DEv response where they replaced my raven due to a game bug. It gave him hope to not loose faith that eve was a bit to harsh...
for that I was told and warned I would be banned for posting even that, from a ISD member who was lurking instead of answering questions. He just popped in, policed me and was not answering any questions.
So basically I was perma banned for telling ISD to get in there and help these people as I was answering 3 players at once on most mornings for hours on end for many many months and I have helped in that channel for over two years......after they policed me for posting the reimbursement petitons first two lines, to show this guy, CCP will help you if in fact EvE did have issues that caused his ship loss...
I got banned for posting part of my petition and then telling the ISD completely off when it was more important to him to enforce the rules while he lurked and was watching players seriously struggle....including he knew very well I was a wrecking force answering machine in help channel at a high level for a LONG time.
I had just had enough...something this minor escalates to this today....because its more important to FOLLOW the RULES to the LETTER then to actually provide answers and really help in the help channel.
there its explained
Looks like you were a moron and out of line, and paid for it.
For all you know, that ISD was working with people in private convos, or had just logged and was catching up on the channel.
Regardless, you have no right or authority to tell them how to do their job, and you are not allowed to post petitions or GM responses from them. You may have been trying to help, but you were wrong in what you did, and you just made yourself even more wrong by attacking ISD.
No sympathy here, and if I bashed ISD like that, I'd expect CCP to not want anything to do with me, or any gatherings I'd run, as well.
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:38:00 -
[74]
Blackhole Bob, thank you for your efforts in hosting the player gathering earlier this year, your efforts with the IGB help guide and other contributions made to the EVE community. If you chose to depart from the EVE community, those contributions will be missed.
To the players saying recent events are going to have an impact on a US player party hosted elsewhere, rest assured they won't. CCP's focus is the FanFest, but we will continue to support player events.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Kurren
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:39:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Sinlare
Originally by: DirtyHarry
HOWEVER on that note I do believe Kieron is more fair and open minded than that and he would have to have a VERY good reason to say that your comments in emails to the ISD staff went too far. It couldnt have been simple moaning about their decisions, it would have to be more of a verbal attack for him to take the action of "black balling" you and your company/event.
No doubt this will be deleted but what the hey
BB forgot to mention in his 'explanation' that he replaced his site after his ban, with the most awful page full of swearing and accusations directed at people at ccp and other things more nasty.
People do that. It's called denial. Everybody thinks too much of themselves to "incriminate" (I couldn't think of a better word...) themselves and make themselves look bad in their own eyes.
Themselves themselves themselves...
I do see a game ban coming though. Albeit, I'm not the most civil of forum posters, but I can see his reactionary attitude blowing up in his face. He's tried to publicly humiliate CCP and Kieron personally. He's insulted a respected group of volunteers, again, publicly. Then, when told to stop whining and view it from another's perspective, we get _teh flamez_ as well... publicly. Something tells me he's the only one not noticing this pattern, but a good hardy punch to the ban_button might open his eyes.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:41:00 -
[76]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Helplessandlost
For your sake and your company I personally hope none of your customers see this, I for one would not do buisness with you based on what I have seen of just your actions in this matter.
My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...
That doesn't matter. If they see it, it will not reflect well on you or OMG OMG PROCORE PRODUCTIONS (as I seem to recall it being called)
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
my last post ...CYA...it was fun!....
I don't buy this
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:43:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 19/07/2006 17:45:42
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
CCP is kewl..ISD is NOT...CCP stands behind ISD...but they are not the issues...
ISD members, STAR in this case, quite cool. You're just a self-righteous ******* that can't admit they were wrong.
You get punished, you didn't like it, and instead of doing the mature thing, you cry and scream and ***** and show everyone your true colors.
And if you were such a great helper, why didn't YOU join STAR? Surely you'd have risen in their ranks in no time since you're so much better than them, right?
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
My company outside of eve has nothing to do with eve or gamers period...thanks for the constructive feedback
Considering that you had it showing on your site, yes it does.
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FooB2
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:46:00 -
[78]
last post? do you promise?
so, you got "permabanned" (yet, are still able to post here), by ISD because they enforced one of thier own rules, and you threw a hissyfit because you are not exempt from this rule?
the only mistake CCP have made here is letting you stay here this long.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
And if you were such a great helper, why didn't YOU join STAR? Surely you'd have risen in their ranks in no time since you're so much better than them, right?
Malthros, I think you've missed the point. Obviously STAR wouldn't see Bob's clear superiority over them, because they just aren't clever enough. For example, none of them are capable of writing such an obscene rant as Bob did after the ban. That is a true demonstration of intelligence, maturity and suitability to help
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:23:00 -
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God, just ban him already and be done with it.
I spoke my piece the last time we had this little runaround. Though I do wish I had seen his rant this time for comedy value... anyone save the emails?
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:34:00 -
[81]
BB hasnt posted for a while.. do you think he has actually gone this time?? we can only hope.. nice responce from kireon there, respectful, to the point and pleasant... a lot to be learned there 
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Dafuzz
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:02:00 -
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I have been toying with the idea of doing something like this in Florida.
Time to put some real thought into it.
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:04:00 -
[83]
CCP were obviously just proved right in distancing themselves from you.
Your expectations of them were unreasonable considering your recent behaviour. And yet you just repeat that behaviour again and sit there wondering why thy won't do as you've asked.
Concerning your ban from the help channels. If you cannot understand the reasoning behind making GM / Dev -> Player communication regarding exploits and re-imbursements private, then you really shouldn't be sat in the help channels in the first place.
You did know that this was the case, but you still went ahead and did it because you could justify it in your own mind. That, in itself, is pure arrogance. Thinking the rules don't apply to you because of some fantasised justification is presumptuous beyong belief. You could have achieved your aims of consoling a new player in numerous other ways; but you chose to knowingly break the rules.
Live with the consequences of your actions, stop blaming everyone else for them.
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