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FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:38:00 - [1] Only 2 months (or so) away. Anyone want to guess how the pilotical map will shift? Personally I think we'll see a lot of curret 0.0 conflict die down whilst alliances try and land grab. My money is on someone after a few weeks hiring the MC to escort and egg or two out into the badlands.
Tao Han Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:40:00 - [2] I'm hoping for new blood on the map, perhaps one of the 50 "empire alliances" will actually do something interesting...
Nahual Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:42:00 - [3] My impression is that there will either be a new super power formed out of a coalition of people or one of the ones that are around at the moment will do it. These new regions will be quite expensive to kit out and keep from the number of people who would want it, so expect to see small groups try claim it for the first few weeks and then big brother to move in (waiting and seeing what'll happen in the first few weeks, form their plan and bam), possibly trading out their current home region. Whatever happens its ganna be great -----------------------------------------------
Emno Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:44:00 - [4] Originally by: FireFoxx80 My money is on someone after a few weeks hiring the MC to escort and egg or two out into the badlands. with no stations to haul freighters to that would be alot of hauling in indys/dreads ;s
Bermag Point-Zero	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:46:00 - [5] I guess what happens depends a lot of how good these territories are. If they are rich in minerals and other resources I guess the strong and established allieances will go grab them. It will also be interesting to see where the entrances will be for these territories. if some or all go thoorugh other 0.0 regions it will sure be interesting Looking forward to see the new regions on the test server
Tsukiko Kuro	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:49:00 - [6] Any guesses on what systems the warpgates/chokepoint will be in? And will it only be from 0.0 (Vale etc) or direcly from empire?
Blood Mary	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Tsukiko Kuro Any guesses on what systems the warpgates/chokepoint will be in? And will it only be from 0.0 (Vale etc) or direcly from empire? Jita
Eleese Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:58:00 - [8] I'm very curious to see who moves into the new regions. Because of the big power blocks alot of them have put alot of money and resources into their current homes. for example ascn arnt gonna leave their 20 stations behind :) However someone like D2 may be interested...they dont have many outposts. Otherwise I am not sure the smaller less established alliances have the man power to go out there and lay eggs.. possibly goonswarm may try to go out to new regions. Will be very interesting and im looking for to us being hired to go take a look :)
El Covah Die Diener Melkors HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2006.07.19 11:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Blood Mary Originally by: Tsukiko Kuro Any guesses on what systems the warpgates/chokepoint will be in? And will it only be from 0.0 (Vale etc) or direcly from empire? Jita Yulai pleeeeasssee ;) /emote remembers the good old times there
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2006 12:06:00 Originally by: FireFoxx80 Personally I think we'll see a lot of curret 0.0 conflict die down whilst alliances try and land grab. My money is on someone after a few weeks hiring the MC to escort and egg or two out into the badlands. Noooooo!! Hire us to keep the area CLEAN!! We'll cook all the eggs before they hatch!! No more egg-warming! MUHAHAHAHA!!! Seriously. - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Karina Harington Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:07:00 - [11] I've heard some people talking about forming alliances and getting the backing of some of the larger powers to establish themselves in the new areas. Having said that, it's all been rumours so far. It certainly doesn't seem like a bad plan (if rather sketchy).
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Tsukiko Kuro Any guesses on what systems the warpgates/chokepoint will be in? And will it only be from 0.0 (Vale etc) or direcly from empire? I'd guess the neighbouring regions as CCP want to encourage the 0.0 ethos, direct from empire would not work: Cache Great Wildlands Geminate Vale of the Silent (perhaps a little too north) As other people say though, the resources in the region will determine the demand for them. I imagine ISS or someone could make a lot of ISH by being the first to actually fly n egg out there, then resell docking rights to other alliances that want to build in the area. Also look at the map, one of the regions in the top-right has a one-system chokepoint. I suspect CCP will change that, if not, it'll be a sweet area for an alliance to defend. Geminate/Wildlands might just turn into the next Pure Blind though, gateway systems to far better regions...
TZeer Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:25:00 - [13] One thing that`s sure... Will be alot of shooty shooty for the people involved :)
Just Smith Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:27:00 - [14] might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
sableye O.R.C. Outrage Compliant	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:30:00 - [16] I can seen the goons trying to claim a few regions if there war for cloud does'nt go as they want, they certainly have the man power to get enough isk together to build a few outposts I would imagine, of the rest i can only see LV maybe claiming some of it beingt he major power in the area I just don;nt see this big land grab everyone expects happening though. ORC Recruiting You Today! Large Friendly 0.0/Empire Corp
sableye O.R.C. Outrage Compliant	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? ORC Recruiting You Today! Large Friendly 0.0/Empire Corp
MacDuncan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:32:00 - [18] Originally by: sableye Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? Damn....beat me with that question... As much as i would like it, it is not possible w. current game mechanics. --
Admiral IceBlock Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:33:00 - [19] Originally by: sableye Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? :o
Emno Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! that is content for like 1% of eve heh well could jump clone in motherships but meh thats only content for people with alot of isk now if they were to add a jump clone pos module then it would work
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:34:00 - [21] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 19/07/2006 12:34:44 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Originally by: sableye Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? damn i was triing to ask that stupid lag :/ join col ! now
Kcel Chim Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:40:00 - [22] Originally by: sableye Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? there could be 4-5 preset spacebeacons (permanent npc cyno fields) if they wanted to do it this way, which would be alot of fun since it would require motherships, dreads & titans to colonize the new region -> clonejumping + transporting ships and stuff to make pos -> eggs -> new empire. Once done an npc empire could build a few stargates and connect the old space with the new one. Hell that would be alot of fun but i guess it wont be the way it goes.
MacDuncan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:41:00 - [23] Edited by: MacDuncan on 19/07/2006 12:42:31 Jepp...THAT would be very funny indeed... Edit: And with those scenarios in the mind i'm sooo happy i'm not in for any logistics... --
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:49:00 - [24] Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2006 12:49:22 Originally by: Kcel Chim there could be 4-5 preset spacebeacons (permanent npc cyno fields) if they wanted to do it this way, which would be alot of fun since it would require motherships, dreads & titans to colonize the new region -> clonejumping + transporting ships and stuff to make pos -> eggs -> new empire. Once done an npc empire could build a few stargates and connect the old space with the new one. Hell that would be alot of fun but i guess it wont be the way it goes. TBH, this is exactly what I had in mind. There could be a few semi-permanent cynos in place that would be the springboard for colonization. CCP has stated that actual player-made gate construction is a feature that will happen "eventually". If you check out the current planned features, the "Linked POS's" are another option for travel to the new regions. Also, if jump drives were the only way to get into the area first, just imagine the absolute carnage that would ensue from people trying to establish the first foothold in the area! Yeah, it would be kind of restrictive at first, but it would force people who really wanted to do something new and different to really work for it. I like content that forces players to get inventive and be original. Opening up eight new regions that are bascially just more space seems like a wasted oppertunity to me. - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Jobie Thickburger Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Jobie Thickburger on 19/07/2006 12:55:11 Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2006 12:49:22 Originally by: Kcel Chim there could be 4-5 preset spacebeacons (permanent npc cyno fields) if they wanted to do it this way, which would be alot of fun since it would require motherships, dreads & titans to colonize the new region -> clonejumping + transporting ships and stuff to make pos -> eggs -> new empire. Once done an npc empire could build a few stargates and connect the old space with the new one. Hell that would be alot of fun but i guess it wont be the way it goes. TBH, this is exactly what I had in mind. There could be a few semi-permanent cynos in place that would be the springboard for colonization. CCP has stated that actual player-made gate construction is a feature that will happen "eventually". If you check out the current planned features, the "Linked POS's" are another option for travel to the new regions. Also, if jump drives were the only way to get into the area first, just imagine the absolute carnage that would ensue from people trying to establish the first foothold in the area! Yeah, it would be kind of restrictive at first, but it would force people who really wanted to do something new and different to really work for it. I like content that forces players to get inventive and be original. Opening up eight new regions that are bascially just more space seems like a wasted oppertunity to me. As cool as that sounds, it takes away my dreams of hiding under the radar out there untill I can form up an industrial empire and rule the Galaxy! Besides, Cyno Camping anyone? (hmmmmm that would be fun to watch, 30 dreads sitting around a cyno field.... waiting....) I'd think there would be a few enterances into this from 0.0, mabey one or two from Jove space once it opens up, But who knows..... *edit Typo, How did that get past the word filter? CEO - MGTTG
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:58:00 - [26] CCP will have to RP the new regions somehow. Why not with 'unexplained spatial phenomena' in the form of neutral cyno fields? You're right though, it would ensure that only the most powerful alliances could jump through. Perhaps make the cyno field move about each DT? would prevent 24/7 camping.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:03:00 - [27] Edited by: Seleene on 19/07/2006 13:04:03 Originally by: FireFoxx80 CCP will have to RP the new regions somehow. Why not with 'unexplained spatial phenomena' in the form of neutral cyno fields? You're right though, it would ensure that only the most powerful alliances could jump through. Why so? Carriers have excellent jump range and are well within the financial reach of a large percentage of the EVE population. Assuming CCP implements the "POS Linking" feature, it would not be that hard to set up a small base inside the new regions and start moving people and equipment through. The challange, of course, would be staying alive against the competions but since when is THAT new in EVE? Quote: Perhaps make the cyno fields move about each DT? would prevent 24/7 camping. Yup. Or make them completely random after downtime. As I said, it would be VERY interesting to see how things developed. The more I think about this, the more dissapointed I'll be if they just open these new regions up with no special plot twist. - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:22:00 - [28] oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:25:00 - [29] Originally by: FireFoxx80 oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month. Like the whole wormhole that collapsed thing! And the people who go to the new regions are cut off for like the next three months forcing them to really build up from NOTHING. Damn. That's harsh. It's freakin' awesome tho TBH. - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:42:00 - [30] How about some 'Natural' phenomenon that affects the gates in these regions and shuts them off for random time intervals (could be minutes/Hours/days/weeks). Would make moving round and the likes a little more hazardous and take a relative safety of instajumps out. Might need alot of coding though? MT
Hellraiza666 Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:44:00 - [31] Theres an idea for a new reality show on eve tv. SHIPWRECKED : EVE EDITION
Wizard Without Reason	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! I would probably condider quiting eve for gd if that came about. There are many players like me...................... We are not interested in carriers/dreads etc, content for the rich people or carebears while smacking down others. It probably will happen though because it seems ALL the decent content in game is purly made available to aliances like the current eve tournament ( yes i have a chip on my shoulder about that, id of loved to partake in that and refuse to make an aliance just to do so ). Without Reason corp website ^^looking for a PvP corp with little stress then look no further.
Pylse Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:47:00 - [33] I can only say one thing: Lots of people. No insta-jumps. Aaaaahhrrr
Muffin Menace Reikoku	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:52:00 - [34] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Theres an idea for a new reality show on eve tv. SHIPWRECKED : EVE EDITION :D __________________ "Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreamin"
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:54:00 - [35] Pointless discussion, Darth Solo already claimed them for himself and he don't like to share so though luck. Celes vs Xelas
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! I really hope not since a) Capital ships sux big animal ***** b) 8 Regions for the 8-9 alliances that can afford to use ships like that, erm no. c) We have 45682656 crappy empire alliances would be nice if they actually earned the right to be called an alliance.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:00:00 - [37] Originally by: Xrak Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! I really hope not since a) Capital ships sux big animal ***** b) 8 Regions for the 8-9 alliances that can afford to use ships like that, erm no. c) We have 45682656 crappy empire alliances would be nice if they actually earned the right to be called an alliance. Well, not to support or oppose the concept of that, I will say that if they DID do this it would still free up as much space in the long run because, after all, the jump drive capable alliances would have to effectively move from where tehy are now. And, let's be honest, if the benefits are there over what we have already I know that I'd be the first to ditch what we have for pastures a-new.
Jobie Thickburger Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:02:00 - [38] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: FireFoxx80 oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month. Like the whole wormhole that collapsed thing! And the people who go to the new regions are cut off for like the next three months forcing them to really build up from NOTHING. Damn. That's harsh. It's freakin' awesome tho TBH. Good idea, Problem is that not everyone is going to make the move at once, Would be fun to do, but wouldn't solve the problem that opening new regions would be for, Getting people spread out more. Would leave you with a hand full of people like me who would want to build up from nothing, cut off forever. Remember, its a 2 sided sword, and your trade good fuel will only last SO long... The moving cyno feild idea though, That I like... CEO - MGTTG
Dragon Slave Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:07:00 - [39] Make the jump in beacons cover a whole system, in that case you'll jump in at a random point in the system, safe from immidiate destruction :P
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:07:00 - [40] I claim all, now go back home
Eric carr Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:20:00 - [41] Inviting all the ecsisting alliances living near the new regoins to form a new supercoaltion so we can gatecamp the enterences to the new regions 23/7 Please only use english in your signature - Jacques([email protected])
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:21:00 - [42] Not to be an ass or anything, but why would someone QUIT over this? Heck, if some of the bigger alliances moved to the new regions to go WTFPWN each other it would just mean more oppertunity for those left behind to WTFPWN each other over the regions left behind. WTFPWNAGE for all!! \o/ I don't see the problem here tbh. - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:27:00 - [43] Think about the size of the veld rocks out there - they've been spawning and growing for 3 years now without so much as a touch of a miner II.... /me drools. Max
Hellraiza666 Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:28:00 - [44] Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 19/07/2006 14:33:12 Day 23 in the shipwrecked regions. Parmizan has been on the alcohol and is demanding womens clothes. Meanwhile on the other side of the island loxyrider is happily mining veld in his pimpicator and cordy is mining in her raven. Christopher multisanti went fishing but got killed by a little fish now called punisher. MAXsuicide is doing hit and runs in his mums car and the pre-nerfed crew are making babies.
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:48:00 - [45] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Theres an idea for a new reality show on eve tv. SHIPWRECKED : EVE EDITION
Hinkledolph Hinkledolph and K Associates	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:48:00 - [46] Cap ships only sounds like a great way for big alliances to never have to worry about pirates etc. A carebear paradise.
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:51:00 - [47] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: FireFoxx80 oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month. Like the whole wormhole that collapsed thing! And the people who go to the new regions are cut off for like the next three months forcing them to really build up from NOTHING. Damn. That's harsh. It's freakin' awesome tho TBH. Not sure how the mechanics would work though. CCP would have to change code, so it's unlikely to happen. But random cyno fields each DT, one way jumps for first month. You'd have to put a fairly meaty prize out there for someone to risk a carrier/dreadnaught. You'd have people *****ing that it's only one way, but then they chose to jump through. I agree with your later post though, large alliances (with exception of LV who border it) will have a hard time holding space on two sides of the universe. I suspect some will shut up shop and move out, leaving nearer 0.0 regions to smaller alliances.
shivan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:52:00 - [48] Uhm, if you are gonna force people to jump to the new region to start out there, how are they meant to get outpost eggs out there?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 14:55:00 - [49] Originally by: shivan Uhm, if you are gonna force people to jump to the new region to start out there, how are they meant to get outpost eggs out there? I guess that would depend on how big a ship you could move through a "Twined Jump Array" on a POS? - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Larsson7 Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:00:00 - [50] Looking at the opening of 8 new regions I think its important to consider several RP and logistical aspects for the game. Firstly - How do CCP announce the release of 8 new regions? Does the news item look something like this: "Scientists today are baffled that "X" amount of stargates have suddenly just "appeared" in the Universe. No one knows where they came from but now we have 8 new regions. YAY!" That is not only implausible but quite silly - especially from a game mechanics perspective. Seleene has put forward one of the most useable and interesting concepts of developing, exploring, settling and conquering the new regions. Do we want a sudden flurry of new gates that simply encourage pirate gate camping while haulers/freighters attempt to settle a new world? Having 8 more HED-GPs is not going to be many peoples idea of fun. Would this type of news story not be more plausible in terms of game mecahnics and role playing?:: "With the development and research into cynosaular technology and deep space probing, Caldari/Minmatar/Amarr/Gallente (pick one) researchers have discovered 8 Cynosaural echos left over from an ancient civilisation. No one is sure of how old these echos are or if the systems are still inhabited. The Amarr Empire/Caldari State/Gallente Federation/Minmatar Republic (pick one) have immediately began researching the possibility of calibrating existing Cynosaural fields to lock onto these echos and begin exploration of new territory and the possibility of new technologies. Several of the major Pirate factions have also began to focus on these new regions in the hope of extending their power base. Concord have refused to comment claiming they need to speak to the four major Factions before commenting" OK - so that Press release is far from perfect - but you get the drift!
fisty Ruffians	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:03:00 - [51] loads of cool idea... something like in that star trek movie, spatian anomaly that travelles through space and somehow generates cyno fields or/and disables gates as someone else said.... have like all wierd thing happen supernova's blackholes etc... i know its too much but there could be a big a$$ thing travelling through eve that messes things up...u dont realy get the feeling how space flight is hazardous like in star trek hehe Ciao
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:05:00 - [52] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 19/07/2006 14:33:12 Day 23 in the shipwrecked regions. Parmizan has been on the alcohol and is demanding womens clothes. Meanwhile on the other side of the island loxyrider is happily mining veld in his pimpicator and cordy is mining in her raven. Christopher multisanti went fishing but got killed by a little fish now called punisher. MAXsuicide is doing hit and runs in his mums car and the pre-nerfed crew are making babies. sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Raid Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:11:00 - [53] Location, Location, Location.. This all depends on where these new regions are located. If they are located behind current 0.0 regions then no new entities will take them. If they are lcoated where they currently are the closest entities will take the biggest chunks. If industrial alliances are looking at this as an oportunity to put up and outpost and mine some high end stuff forget it. These regions will be won at gunpoint.
OzaLoni Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:15:00 - [54] With the introduction of 8 new regions would it be fair to expect 8 (probably less) new factions?? Jove ??? We could take the story along the lines of said new factions trying to forge their way into eve space as we know it... due to superior technology are able to construct jump/star gates from their own space. Or maybe the current factions had sent discovers out into deep space to see new worlds to conquer and slowly they fire up cyno fields and each faction starts to colonise the new areas.. thus allowing players to capitalise on their success.. this way the regions can be brought in slowly and no one will know where the next portal will appear. I do like the idea of being stranded, castaways far away from home, never knowing if your be able to get back home. This is gonna be awesome! (hopefully) Only one image as a sig please - Cathath ([email protected])
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:16:00 - [55] Originally by: Larsson7 stuff Yeah, something about one of the pirate factions in the region announcing anomalies in the regions mentioned earlier (Vale, Geminate, Wildlands, Cache). 1st News Item. Mutter something about Minmatar scientists being baffled at what it could be (bless them), and some loon scientist suggesting they are a new form of super weapon. 2nd News Item. Loose a few science surveys (very star trek) played by Aurora actors. Have Minmatar blame pirates or offer a reward for information. Open up cynosural beacons in new region, move them about every day (you'd only need 4 or so). 3rd News Item. Give it a month, then simply drop some smugglers gates into the new regions, from exisiting systems as originally planned. Job done. People happy. RP quote filled.
dorannl	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:16:00 - [56] Another problem if you only go there with jumpdrive how to transport the egg. Or do you want to mine there build a freghter mine more to get a outpost? But would be fun to have a totaly indpendent state only problem who will invest so much time to build the first outpost.
Rutoo Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:23:00 - [57] Please Tell me 100% that you know for a fact the regions are not ging to be spread out thoughout the universe. That, infact, the 8 regions are going to stay where they are. I'm Gonna let you in on a little secret Delve, Queriuos, Period Basis > BloodRaiders Providence, Catch, Stain, Esoteria, Paragon Soul > Sanshas Curse, Immensea, Impass, Feyhabolis, Omist, Tenerifis, Detorid, Wicked Crek, Scalding Pass, Great Wildlands, Cache > Angels Vale of the Silent, Geminate, Tribute, Venal, ranch, Tenal > Guristias Fountain, Outer Ring, Cloud Ring Pure Blind, Fade, Deklein -> Serpentis Think they are going to add 8 new regions with only 1 type of NPC? I sure don't. Think that the new regions are going to be spread out so not just 1 or 2 alliences can control the new regions? i think so. Discuess.. _________________________________________________________ Sig In Prograss Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Larsson7 Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Rutoo Please Tell me 100% that you know for a fact the regions are not ging to be spread out thoughout the universe. That, infact, the 8 regions are going to stay where they are. I'm Gonna let you in on a little secret Delve, Queriuos, Period Basis > BloodRaiders Providence, Catch, Stain, Esoteria, Paragon Soul > Sanshas Curse, Immensea, Impass, Feyhabolis, Omist, Tenerifis, Detorid, Wicked Crek, Scalding Pass, Great Wildlands, Cache > Angels Vale of the Silent, Geminate, Tribute, Venal, ranch, Tenal > Guristias Fountain, Outer Ring, Cloud Ring Pure Blind, Fade, Deklein -> Serpentis Think they are going to add 8 new regions with only 1 type of NPC? I sure don't. Think that the new regions are going to be spread out so not just 1 or 2 alliences can control the new regions? i think so. Discuess.. I cant remember if I read correctly (or if old age is just the better of me!) I heard that the regions will be in the South West and North East - so its unlikely that any one Alliance could claim the lot.
Sovy Kurosei Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:41:00 - [59] The regions Southeast of Jove space will be opened up, as well as brand spanking new regions being opened up in the Northwest, I heard. So yeah. Like the cyno idea for the new regions, Seleene. ___________________
The Slayer Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:41:00 - [60] Seleene I think I lub you. That is honestly the best idea I have ever heard, and it really got me exciting thinking about it! If its just another 8 regions tacked on to the current ones ill be all disappointed now :( __________________________________ Your Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Estamel Tharchon, wrecking for 187.6 damage.
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:44:00 - [61] Originally by: Larsson7 "With the development and research into cynosaular technology and deep space probing, Caldari/Minmatar/Amarr/Gallente (pick one) researchers have discovered 8 Cynosaural echos left over from an ancient civilisation. No one is sure of how old these echos are or if the systems are still inhabited. The Amarr Empire/Caldari State/Gallente Federation/Minmatar Republic (pick one) have immediately began researching the possibility of calibrating existing Cynosaural fields to lock onto these echos and begin exploration of new territory and the possibility of new technologies. Several of the major Pirate factions have also began to focus on these new regions in the hope of extending their power base. Concord have refused to comment claiming they need to speak to the four major Factions before commenting" OK - so that Press release is far from perfect - but you get the drift! I love it. Fits in with New Eden Lore as well. However, there should be some way for the average pilot w/out a capital ship to explore these new regions. Perhaps a new skill set for exploration? Allowing a pilot to use small cyno fields to jump a BS or Cruiser to these echos? ------------------------
Larsson7 Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:48:00 - [62] Originally by: Exortius Amarrus Originally by: Larsson7 "With the development and research into cynosaular technology and deep space probing, Caldari/Minmatar/Amarr/Gallente (pick one) researchers have discovered 8 Cynosaural echos left over from an ancient civilisation. No one is sure of how old these echos are or if the systems are still inhabited. The Amarr Empire/Caldari State/Gallente Federation/Minmatar Republic (pick one) have immediately began researching the possibility of calibrating existing Cynosaural fields to lock onto these echos and begin exploration of new territory and the possibility of new technologies. Several of the major Pirate factions have also began to focus on these new regions in the hope of extending their power base. Concord have refused to comment claiming they need to speak to the four major Factions before commenting" OK - so that Press release is far from perfect - but you get the drift! I love it. Fits in with New Eden Lore as well. However, there should be some way for the average pilot w/out a capital ship to explore these new regions. Perhaps a new skill set for exploration? Allowing a pilot to use small cyno fields to jump a BS or Cruiser to these echos? I tend to agree! Considering the cynosaural echos would be unique it would not mean that every Frig/Cruiser/BC/BS in New Eden could start cynoing around the Universe at will. The new technology or skills would mean a jumpdrive that only operates with these individulal echos. There is certainly a lot of interesting ways that CCP could introduce the new regions and a lot of ways that would just not be interesting or challenging.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:51:00 - [63] My bet is on RA. Yes, seriously. Old blog
Rocksor	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:56:00 - [64] unstable wormholes... every pilot will suffer extreme braindamage... everyone will be cut to 5 million SP... have fun!!
kenbadger	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:02:00 - [65] If the introcduction of the cyno fields is brought in you can still jump in and out becuase if you can jump to it (cyno) you can also jump back to the system you came from.
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:05:00 - [66] Originally by: sableye I can seen the goons trying to claim a few regions if there war for cloud does'nt go as they want, they certainly have the man power to get enough isk together to build a few outposts I would imagine, of the rest i can only see LV maybe claiming some of it beingt he major power in the area I just don;nt see this big land grab everyone expects happening though. Honestly, I would expect that we'd be far more likely to keep fighting for cloud ring and environs and let the new regions suck our competitors away. Logistically, due to our large newbie population and very large casual or semi-casual player population, it's easier by far for us to fight for a region close at hand than it is to pull up stakes and move everyone to somewhere across the map, even if that new region is uncontested. If we all pulled up stakes and moved out of the Syndicate/OR/CR region, we'd have casual members, reactivating members, etc., logging into our old home regions every day for months afterwards and wondering where all their friends were. We're good at logistics because we have to be, but the thought of moving (what by that time would probably be) 3000+ goons, many of them rank newbies, to an entirely separate region of 0.0 space. . .oh god, the thought alone is horrible. I think we'd rather just keep fighting where we are.
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:07:00 - [67] Regions in Northwest? Makes sense I suppose, stops people whining that those poofy Southerners have it easy. Not sure that CCP would invest that time in changing the data though, especially when we have 8 regions ready to be populated. No doubt though: - Kali 1 will be delayed, and we won't see it until Jan '07. - It'll be dropped from Kali 1. - The changes won't be visible on the test server (much like new chokepoints), to prevent anything gaining an unfair tactical advantage.
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:08:00 - [68] Originally by: kenbadger If the introcduction of the cyno fields is brought in you can still jump in and out becuase if you can jump to it (cyno) you can also jump back to the system you came from. Yeah. I think the only way around that would be to introduce system-wide no-jump bubbles. Similar to the ones used in deadspace to prevent warping.
Endlos Null Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:10:00 - [69] How about this for when they introduce the 8 new regions? Don't have the regions show up on the map (except for the first system into it) and have a contest for whomever can make the best map of the region, they get a prize and the region shows up on the map. It would promote exploration and would really have a sense of the unknown.
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:11:00 - [70] Its rare I get "excited" about anything in eve anymore. 8 new virgin NPC station free regions is one of those times. Love the 1 way jump gate idea. Love the stranded in deep 0.0. with no way back idea.
FireFoxx80 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:12:00 - [71] Interesting.... could instead introduce an exploring/beta type thing and simply hide the systems from the map and prevent autopilot routes being set/guessed.
Whiskey Leech	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:26:00 - [72] Edited by: Whiskey Leech on 19/07/2006 16:28:34 Edited by: Whiskey Leech on 19/07/2006 16:27:22 Originally by: Endlos Null How about this for when they introduce the 8 new regions? Don't have the regions show up on the map (except for the first system into it) and have a contest for whomever can make the best map of the region, they get a prize and the region shows up on the map. It would promote exploration and would really have a sense of the unknown. Ive been suggesting something similar for new regions some time ago, but in my version the new regions would newer show up on the in-game map. Each gate, belt and celestial object would have to be found by scanner and/or probes. Basically be the ultimate playerrun regions, and hardest to survive, for the most hard-core players. Kind of like this, ranked from easiest to toughest, and least to most player run in every aspect: 1.0-0.5 0.4-0.1 0.0 with NPC station 0.0 without NPC station 0.0 with conqurable stations 0.0 without NPC and conqurable stations and no map
Slimy	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:37:00 - [73] Originally by: Dianabolic Well, not to support or oppose the concept of that, I will say that if they DID do this it would still free up as much space in the long run because, after all, the jump drive capable alliances would have to effectively move from where tehy are now. And, let's be honest, if the benefits are there over what we have already I know that I'd be the first to ditch what we have for pastures a-new. I'm assuming this is the attitude that CCP is banking on. Migration rather than expansion. Nobody likes being over-extended, and it makes little sense to claim more space than you can effectively populate (either at present, or in the very near future).
Two step Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:41:00 - [74] Another alternative would be to have the gates to the new regions only let in frigates for the first couple months. If anyone wants to get heavier ships in, they will need to jump them in or build them.
Avernus Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 16:59:00 - [75] Blood and fire, shattered fleets and broken dreams. The first month will be intense as alliances and independant corporations vie for position in these regions. One or two groups will move in wholesale and try to get a leg up on the competition, most will send in scouts to begin with to survey and appraise... all the while, a mixed flood of the curious and the determined alike will set course for these regions. Expect massive camps, roaming opportunists, pitched battles, emergency diplomacy, new allies and new foes; all on a daily basis. The new regions will be chaos incarnate until those who manage to invest themselves in the regions begin to solidify control... if they can. OMG it's going to be fun Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:05:00 - [76] Originally by: Two step Another alternative would be to have the gates to the new regions only let in frigates for the first couple months. If anyone wants to get heavier ships in, they will need to jump them in or build them. I dont know why there are ppl out who always want to limit something? just open them up and let the players deal with it, thats all what eve is about. limitations ftl.
Eleese Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:09:00 - [77] Its one of the those new developments from ccp which has me wishing i had access to all the major alliances leader forums to see what they planning. Then again that will spoil the surprise... hmmm Eitherway this is why i love eve..politics and territory disputes are cool.
Karel51 Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:17:00 - [78] I'm looking forward to these regions opening up myself, should be lots of oppertunities for up and comming alliances, lots of new living space, battles and lore to be created :) Just a personal opinion, but I bet Red Alliance, as currently being one of the strongest alliances without a real home any longer, maybe one of the main contenders for some of those new regions.. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:31:00 - [79] Originally by: Dianabolic Well, not to support or oppose the concept of that, I will say that if they DID do this it would still free up as much space in the long run because, after all, the jump drive capable alliances would have to effectively move from where tehy are now. And, let's be honest, if the benefits are there over what we have already I know that I'd be the first to ditch what we have for pastures a-new. Sounds good but would be a pain in the ass everytime you want to get something from empire.
VonKaplanek III Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:32:00 - [80] one way only....wow, now thats a good idea..... and no more than 3 jump in points
Gravis North Star Networks Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:37:00 - [81] I foresee massive gate camping. And a lot of people making and copying BM¦s. -----------------------------------------------
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:41:00 - [82] Originally by: sableye I can seen the goons trying to claim a few regions if there war for cloud does'nt go as they want, they certainly have the man power to get enough isk together to build a few outposts I would imagine, of the rest i can only see LV maybe claiming some of it beingt he major power in the area I just don;nt see this big land grab everyone expects happening though. We need an outpost in the new regions like we need a hole in the head. Too many people would be trying to take it away :p My vote's on ASCN and ISS for the outposts there, really. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:44:00 - [83] Originally by: Hellraiza666 and the pre-nerfed crew are making babies. i'll issue the order for Emray to make babies with you.
dghdfgh	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:57:00 - [84] I suspect there will be NPC stations seeded there before they go live, or at least Conquerables. I'd like to see someone take the absolutely huge number of medicore PVP/Industrial corps, failed/disbanded alliance corps and better PVP corps that don't have a home and make a 4-5k member alliance before this thing opens, A'la ASCN of the north. Even without stations, you can pop an Egg in a gateway system, build the thing under heavy heavy protection, and expand outwards from there.
Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:02:00 - [85] Some info if it hasn't been said already: There will be one new NPC pirate faction. New faction backstory already complete or very close to it. My speculation: CCP has already decided on how to open up the new regions, we'll just have to wait and see The new regions are the previous Polaris space, IIRC. Could be wrong though.
Heliodor Mordureau Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:12:00 - [86] OMG more shooty shooty \o/ ________________________________________________ Look mate, if it's smack you want then I'll start sending Rohann into your Alliance chat everyday for a week. -DB Preacher
Jobie Thickburger Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:14:00 - [87] Originally by: dghdfgh I suspect there will be NPC stations seeded there before they go live, or at least Conquerables. I'd like to see someone take the absolutely huge number of medicore PVP/Industrial corps, failed/disbanded alliance corps and better PVP corps that don't have a home and make a 4-5k member alliance before this thing opens, A'la ASCN of the north. Even without stations, you can pop an Egg in a gateway system, build the thing under heavy heavy protection, and expand outwards from there. Not going to take the time to look it up for a Faceless Noob who can't even come up with a good name, But in the Dev Logs, Its already been stated, numberous times, that the new regions will be completly without stations, and fully player developed. Conquerable stations came out before Outposts, and I think even before POSs. Now that we have both, they are no longer needed, and as such, won't exsist in the new regions of 0.0 CEO - MGTTG
Nez Perces Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:22:00 - [88] Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/07/2006 18:23:17 Much of the new content that CCP introduces, tends to get better with time, like a good wine...I suspect these new 8 regions and the accompanying new NPC faction shall be no different.. Lvl 4 missions when they first came out and made a mockery of the release of Exodus.. anybody? I therefore find it hard to get all excited about them, however, I have no doubt that in time they will be a great asset once brought into balance with the rest of the game.
Shigsy Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:24:00 - [89] One prob, how do you travel between new systems... Are there already gates in there? Well that doesn't make sense, does it? They should just make one MASSIVE system :D, the size of 8 regions... now that'd be great.
Liet Traep Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:00:00 - [90] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: FireFoxx80 oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month. Like the whole wormhole that collapsed thing! And the people who go to the new regions are cut off for like the next three months forcing them to really build up from NOTHING. Damn. That's harsh. It's freakin' awesome tho TBH. I'd sign up for that. get a group of peeps. stuff a mothership filled with gear and go wandering. Living out of a pos for 3 months scratching a living in the bandlands with no way to get home. fecking awesome fun. Especially if you fly amarr and don't have to worry about ammo. :)
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:10:00 - [91] I would laugh at people getting stuck in the new regions out of jump fuel :D sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Kingdoc Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:22:00 - [92] Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen. ------------------------------------- Unnerf boobies! / boost e-penor!
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:47:00 - [93] Right so only carriar pilots and ships with cynos can jump in? So The only pilots able to be in that space the first few months would be a hand few.As only motherships have the ability for clone jumping.And i believe very few people have one BOB and EST being the only two i can think of. So basicly only dread and carriar owners/pilots Also what about the small guys? They can't just build a mothership,with how agressive everyone gets to anyone building em. If ya ask me this should be a great spot for some pirating .People moving cargo in and around everywhere O my! Im getting gitty like a school girl just from thinking about the haulers =P The jump idea sounds fun but sence its so limit it kinda sinks.Unless we have a way for the smaller guys to get in.Then its just pointless isn't it?Well a new jump method would be nice i guess something besides a gate =) CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:49:00 - [94] The only way for a little guy to get a piece of 0.0 action in EVE is for him to become a big mean SOB. The new regions won't be different. Originally by: Kingdoc Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen.
Quutar Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 19:51:00 - [95] Originally by: Kingdoc Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen. This I find funny. If these new regions are valuble, then the rich would have the best ability to take, hold, and exploit those resources. The only time that new resources have been made "availible" to the little guy has been forced migration (won't ever happen in eve) and lottery style give outs (Tech 2 lottery anybody... it was fair to the little guy... except when any little guy won... they sold the bpo to a big guy, then *****ed about the lack of availiblity) I see the groups/factions that have the best organization and resources being able to carve out a home in these new regions. It is going to be hard, harder than 0.0 is currently... so you assume the "little guys" with no experiance will be able to walk right in and take it... and magically figure out a way to keep those with bigger guns from taking it from you? Eve is about social evolution... only the strong survive out in 0.0. Strength has many forms, and not always in combat skill. But, strength will hold these regions, not some forced "welfare" system for little guys. sonofabeachballbouncingmarymotherfiretrucker
Ghaulth Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.19 20:44:00 - [96] Originally by: Kingdoc Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen. If the rich move on to greener pastures, the poor (by which, I assume, you mean those who don't currently have a piece of the 0.0 pie) will move into the areas that are left vacant. 8 new systems is a lot. Assuming the new regions have resources just marginally better than the current top-end regions, it would make more sense to abandon current holdings, than try to hold them, if you want to make a land-grab. The last thing you want to do is spread yourself too thin by defending more resources than you can effectively exploit.
Eximius Josari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.07.19 20:50:00 - [97] I can't wait to see who else will be there with us. Click Above
Wizard Without Reason	Posted - 2006.07.19 21:20:00 - [98] Originally by: Seleene Not to be an ass or anything, but why would someone QUIT over this? Heck, if some of the bigger alliances moved to the new regions to go WTFPWN each other it would just mean more oppertunity for those left behind to WTFPWN each other over the regions left behind. WTFPWNAGE for all!! \o/ I don't see the problem here tbh. I didnt say i would quit, its just that it would be another nail in my coffin so to speak, just getting hacked off with missing on loads of storyline content, tourny etc content just because im not in an alliance. The idea of not having normal means of travel and ways in like we have now to these new areas basically means people like me will NEVER be able to explore and test there areas themselves, would really suck. Ive been giving this some thought and heres my idea. Have like 2-3 choke/entry points to every new region but have it so they occur in different systems randomly from the neighboring existing regions/parts of empire....kind of like the palace in the old film called krull. So basically you have like a 6 hour window or somthing when you find a jumpgate to actually be able to use it to get to the region. Personally i would prefer them all to appear from low sec empire space thus preventing the existing mega powers within eve to just go next door from where they currently reside and shut them off from other eve players. It would increase the lvl of fun and unexpectedness in eve massivly, would stop aliances from putting outposts up in systems of chokepoints for defense which gain them massive advantage. Imagine having a mining op with all nice new ore and a jumpgate apear in system, people start filtering in and wrecking the op etc, would create more risk. Gate campers would be fecked also cos imagine if they sit either side of gate with backup and the gate disapears, half ther gang stranded in hostile territory....they now become the hunted Plz CCP think of the smaller corps/aliances and allow us a better foothold into new content. Without Reason corp website ^^looking for a PvP corp with little stress then look no further.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.07.19 21:45:00 - [99] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/07/2006 21:51:51 I hope the ore there to be decent but pirates to be horrible, making it less interesting for the PvP crowd. Think Angel loot and difficulty and no bounty. In addition some worthwhile moons would be nice. Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Hellraiza666 Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.19 21:57:00 - [100] Originally by: Keta Min Originally by: Hellraiza666 and the pre-nerfed crew are making babies. i'll issue the order for Emray to make babies with you. what about tod ♥
Quutar Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 21:59:00 - [101] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/07/2006 21:51:51 I hope the ore there to be decent but pirates to be horrible, making it less interesting for the PvP crowd. Think Angel loot and difficulty and no bounty. In addition some worthwhile moons would be nice. Well, back last patch they changed for a short time all the rogue drones in the game. No or little "loot" but added bounties. Also changed thier behaviour and other things... This was rolled back, and it was stated by one of the devs that this was a kali DB release that accedentaly got rolled in, and was meant to be the rogue drones in the new unreleased regions. So I think that rogue drones will be one of the larger NPCs in the new regions... maybe even a 10/10 rogue drone complex? sonofabeachballbouncingmarymotherfiretrucker
Jovius Marginus	Posted - 2006.07.19 22:00:00 - [102] Edited by: Jovius Marginus on 19/07/2006 22:00:20 Something like http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=366865&page=1 could help with Seleene's idea.
Jay Phor Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.19 22:44:00 - [103] poor Bookmakers
Logan Williams Super Nova Cartel	Posted - 2006.07.19 23:36:00 - [104] A very wise man once told me "Be holding Great Wildlands whenever they open that space." This has been over a year and a half ago. JUKO-1 is perhaps the closest system to the new group of regions. Somewhere in the V-IH finger there is almost guaranteed to be an entrance. Originally by: Logan Williams Cry CYVOK and let slip the geeks of diplomacy
emptydude	Posted - 2006.07.19 23:41:00 - [105] if they do make it so you have to use a jump drive to get in, i doubt that the new regions would see much action until an alliance makes a concerted effort to get established out there. the logisitics of using a carrier in unknown space would be too difficult for most. maybe have something like an old deepspace gate has been discovered in a newly colonized system. this gate (being old and battered) has a dodgy power supply, and only works for x hours a day, at random times. gives the chance for the opportunists to get setup out there, and cuts down on the chance of permanent camping. or have real smuggler gates. something like concord intelligence has been leaked of a smuggler gate in a system. players have to scan down this gate to get access to the new regions. maybe make it more interesting, by saying only the region where the gate is? then if you find one you could keep it seeekrit. either way, i predict a lot of non-action whilst big alliances scout out the area, and small groups dive in head first and try to find a nice little corner. i doubt anyone will make a serious claim until they have seen where is the most easily defendable nd stuff. -------- YOU'VE READ IT. YOU CAN'T UN-READ IT.
JeanPierre Rothschilde	Posted - 2006.07.20 00:06:00 - [106] Er... Forget getting to the new regions for a second, how would you move around in the new 8 regions? They all mysteriously have gates ready built?
TheDevilsJury O.R.C. Outrage Compliant	Posted - 2006.07.20 00:12:00 - [107] The Obvious RP option CCP could take for all the gates "appearing" is that for years up to now the empires have been exploring unknown space and building gates, and the gates are now ready. ----------------------- sig below Originally by: ISD I don't think I've ever seen anyone hijack their own thread before
Randay	Posted - 2006.07.20 00:30:00 - [108] its all mine, stay the hell out. ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
Constantinee Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 01:56:00 - [109] I say the souther coalition takes cntrl of it and will at some poitn collide with d2 the goonies and Center for disese in the middle leaving syndiacte and the upper left regions open for BoB to take from d2 and all those people. Want a Cheap sig?
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.07.20 04:23:00 - [110] Hmm considering it would be unfair to spawn the new 0.0 cosmos systems in any current regions.As it would seem devs are aligned with w.e alliance is there. Anybody think they will all be in the new regions.Making them a lot more desirable. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 04:34:00 - [111] Originally by: JeanPierre Rothschilde Er... Forget getting to the new regions for a second, how would you move around in the new 8 regions? They all mysteriously have gates ready built? Presumably, jovian gates.
Calenth Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 04:34:00 - [112] Honestly, I think the new regions should be a wedge, furthest ones out best truesec, closest ones in worst truesec, and the worst-truesec systems adjacent to and accessible from empire space. That way you'll get a real free for all. All these complex "only let people with motherships in" plans will just mean that the top alliances partition it out diplomatically between themselves before most people get a chance to run around in it.
Ric Tishek Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 06:27:00 - [113] If the new regions are also the new COSMOS regions, I'd link them to our universe through ancient jumpgates in current COSMOS constellations. The advantages are obvious: - No current alliance / group can control the chokepoints with their existing claims. - The stargates in the new regions are then leftovers of the Talocan, Yan-Jung etc. - It's possible to limit the gates with keys, that have to be found / gained with research or loyalty points first. is it really your spirit that manifests in your clone or is this just a Jovian trick to get fresh DNA for their minds?
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.20 07:09:00 - [114] Hehe. This remind me on America when ppl had to race to mark the lend they wish to live on. Some lost everything they had, some low life scum get a fortune, some found their little heaven, etc,etc. I guess this wont be much different. Many expensive ships/loot will be gonne. DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Sharcy Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 07:21:00 - [115] Edited by: Sharcy on 20/07/2006 07:22:50 Originally by: Larsson7 Firstly - How do CCP announce the release of 8 new regions? Does the news item look something like this: "Scientists today are baffled that "X" amount of stargates have suddenly just "appeared" in the Universe. No one knows where they came from but now we have 8 new regions. YAY!" That is not only implausible but quite silly - especially from a game mechanics perspective. Not to diminish your idea about echos from an ancient civilization, but keep in mind we already have that civilization in EVE, as a Deus Ex Machina: the Jove . I think CCP will never develop them into the game as an additional race really, just to be able to use them for explaining developments like this -- Sonnema is recruiting!
OzaLoni Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 08:08:00 - [116] Hehe after reading through some of the ideas we could kill off bm's for good with the new regions... Make the regions have strange effects causing jump gates to appear and disappear.. thus making bms totally useless.. people guessing as to which way they have to travel. Local could display just the number of people, but not who... they only appear when you can phyiscally see them.. Each region could have different effects etc Only one image as a sig please - Cathath ([email protected])
Wrok Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 08:39:00 - [117] ALL THE PIE WATS WILL MOVE TO THE ARA...and gank stuff... plain and simple
Selfe Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.20 08:59:00 - [118] Id like to see some of the smaller alliances try to claim a peace. The first few weeks would be interesteding towatch what happeneds.
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.07.20 09:56:00 - [119] Originally by: xeom Hmm considering it would be unfair to spawn the new 0.0 cosmos systems in any current regions.As it would seem devs are aligned with w.e alliance is there. Anybody think they will all be in the new regions.Making them a lot more desirable. 4 of the cosmos regions will probably be existing npc pirate faction regions. you'll never jump alone
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:05:00 - [120] CCP stated 1 or 2 new pirate factions as well as rogue drones going in. Good idea to
dimensionZ Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.20 10:15:00 - [121] Originally by: Miss Overlord CCP stated 1 or 2 new pirate factions as well as rogue drones going in. Good idea to Last thing i read in this forums was that ccp wasnt going to introduce new npcs. ----------------------------------------
Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:18:00 - [122] Edited by: Fortior on 20/07/2006 11:23:26 Originally by: dimensionZ Originally by: Miss Overlord CCP stated 1 or 2 new pirate factions as well as rogue drones going in. Good idea to Last thing i read in this forums was that ccp wasnt going to introduce new npcs. It isn't such a far fetched thought that there will be one or perhaps two new factions considering some of these old blogs. Perhaps the deranged survivors of the Second Jove Empire? Originally by: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=330 Eight New Regions We'll be opening up the eight existing but closed regions in the "top right" section of the universe (No, not Jove, just below them). They won't be owned by any NPC faction and there will be no conquerable stations, only ore and stuff. This is done to make room for more players. It will include various rogue NPC entities. Originally by: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=341 And about regions. The 8 new ones are now getting resource distribution, their rogue NPCs being authored, backstory worked on and some other nice twist. What I'm most looking forward to here is that it has no NPC stations, this area of space will be built up by players. Now I just need to get my other 1489 player infrastructure and sovereignty features in and we're all good!
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.07.20 16:36:00 - [123] For the NPCs I say let faction warfare be the deciding factor for npc spawns. The pirate factions want a piece of the action as much as the empires and alliances do. So start the regions out with rogue drone spawns (improved ones with good loot hopefully) and then introduce npcs with factionial warfare. --- Originally by: Boris A I found the rock music button!
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:04:00 - [124] Hm, with no stations I suspect the back areas will be mostly unpopulated. It might not be a bad idea to fit out an Apoc (or the tier 3 BS if it's good) and then just move in as far away as I can and bring in some GSCs and then just rat in super deep space where no one ever goes :) Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Edison Frisk Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:11:00 - [125] Edited by: Edison Frisk on 20/07/2006 17:12:21 Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! agreed edit: wtf lag double post - me?! with my reputation....?!
Edison Frisk Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:11:00 - [126] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! agreed
breaky1	Posted - 2006.07.20 18:31:00 - [127] Edited by: breaky1 on 20/07/2006 18:33:14 Edited by: breaky1 on 20/07/2006 18:31:50 Given Asor's enlightening post (Tin-hattery) regarding secret alliance cooperation, I expect a BoB/D2/IRON/FLA/Sparta/NFC/Goonie/ASCN coalition will fake a massive multi-sided attack in the new regions to prevent any small corps from entering the region. After infrastructure is in place, they will most likely peacefully divide the regions among themselves and never fight there again. EDIT: for forum http illiteracy
Morning Maniac Eve University The Big Blue	Posted - 2006.07.20 18:49:00 - [128] A system where the new regions could only be reached via a limited number of cynos fields would heavily favor those with motherships and titans. Carry ships in the hold, let people jump clone in and you can actually leave the system you have jumped into. If you only have carriers or dreads one of the pilots has to eject, get into a ship with a cynos field and then go elsewhere. That's assuming that you can actually field a bunch of capital ships... MM http://eve.xonectic.com/forum/(out of game) EVE University commercial
xenorx 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.20 18:56:00 - [129] Have I missed something? Where has CCP said they were going to open up 8 new regions? Anyone got a link to what was actually said? It is an interesting idea though. Would be nice to see a expansion in space. I remember back when logging in at peak times and finding 2000 ppl online was considered a lot. Now things are just to crowded for my liking. As for the ideas presented here for how to access them. Well, of course those with a large jump capable fleet of dreds,carriers, and mother ships are gonna lobby for no gates and jump only access. It would give them space they dont have to defend and only they could access. If there is any truth to this then I hope they just spawn some new gates and let everyone fight their way in. Everyone from a 1 day old noob to the 3 year old characters have equil right to try and grab a piece for them self. No one can hear you scream in space, so just shut up and die already.
levitron Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:44:00 - [130] Originally by: sableye Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Just Smith might be nice if they was connected to all of the 0.0 regions but it might be to much chaos I think the new regions should REQUIRE you to use a Jump Drive to reach them! You want in? You'd best get the Carriers and Dreads ready to move some indys and mining barges. THAT's a new frontier, folks! how would you get someone there to make the cyno field? You would have to make an alt with the New race thats coming, you know, the Wizards.
levitron Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:50:00 - [131] Originally by: Berrik Radhok Hm, with no stations I suspect the back areas will be mostly unpopulated. It might not be a bad idea to fit out an Apoc (or the tier 3 BS if it's good) and then just move in as far away as I can and bring in some GSCs and then just rat in super deep space where no one ever goes :) If its the areas you see on the map but cant get to, just do a station count and you'll see all kinds of stations in there. And I havent really checked them out in awhile but it seems I remember seeing higher security systems also in there, some .5 even. I'll have to look at them again and see if it has changed any.
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:53:00 - [132] Originally by: levitron Originally by: Berrik Radhok Hm, with no stations I suspect the back areas will be mostly unpopulated. It might not be a bad idea to fit out an Apoc (or the tier 3 BS if it's good) and then just move in as far away as I can and bring in some GSCs and then just rat in super deep space where no one ever goes :) If its the areas you see on the map but cant get to, just do a station count and you'll see all kinds of stations in there. And I havent really checked them out in awhile but it seems I remember seeing higher security systems also in there, some .5 even. I'll have to look at them again and see if it has changed any. Kinda useless... CCP has stated that the new regions will be populated with rogue drones. There will be no bountys only alloy drops.
BlueOrca Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.21 07:22:00 - [133] Idea 24 hours before they launch the new regions, ISD will announce that in 32 (4 systems for every new region jump-in system) systems all over EVE (0.0 systems with no soveranty) scientists found space-time anomalies similar to jump-gates that link these systems with systems in the new ( long lost) regions, but these anomalies are to unstable to use for travel. So they issue gate BPCs, for the people that want to create new gates into the new regions. You must just get sovranity, build a gate, transport it to the anomaly, with a freighter, put it there and wait for the next DT. Next step get on the other side, take soveranty build another gate and place it there and after another DT the link is complete. Is a 4-5 days work, lots of logistics, must have a big fleet to protect both ends (for 2 days you will be able to jump into that system, but not back, except for capital ships), and the will be a prize for the first alliance that gets the connection to that region, and also it will name that region. what is "23"?
Franky B Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.21 11:22:00 - [134] and that way. all the grown up alliances get the lewt and the rug rats are left with... exactly the same deal as before. the new regions arent there as lebensraum for old alliances (or so I hope...)
Morela Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.21 11:26:00 - [135] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: FireFoxx80 oooo damnit, I have an idea... Make the jump one-way for a month. Like the whole wormhole that collapsed thing! And the people who go to the new regions are cut off for like the next three months forcing them to really build up from NOTHING. Damn. That's harsh. It's freakin' awesome tho TBH. Words cannot describe how much this idea kicks total friggin butt. DO THIS CCP! I BEG OF THEE! My god man, Good idea..
gaz widdow	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:05:00 - [136] Yea sometime back i wondered about random wormholes which spawned in a different system after each downtime. Gives you 24 hours to get your act together and move through also should give you time to astablish some sort of base. Or what a find it would be for a individual who wishes to sell the location. But that said imagine it spawning in jita
Cringeley Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:19:00 - [137] Originally by: BlueOrca Idea 24 hours before they launch the new regions, ISD will announce that in 32 (4 systems for every new region jump-in system) systems all over EVE (0.0 systems with no soveranty) scientists found space-time anomalies similar to jump-gates that link these systems with systems in the new ( long lost) regions, but these anomalies are to unstable to use for travel. So they issue gate BPCs, for the people that want to create new gates into the new regions. You must just get sovranity, build a gate, transport it to the anomaly, with a freighter, put it there and wait for the next DT. Next step get on the other side, take soveranty build another gate and place it there and after another DT the link is complete. Is a 4-5 days work, lots of logistics, must have a big fleet to protect both ends (for 2 days you will be able to jump into that system, but not back, except for capital ships), and the will be a prize for the first alliance that gets the connection to that region, and also it will name that region. If there's one thing alliances need its more prizes and territorial monopolies... So far the best idea I've heard is that one-way jump thing. That would be great. -------------------------------------------- Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust.
Karina Harington Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:22:00 - [138] Originally by: levitron If its the areas you see on the map but cant get to, just do a station count and you'll see all kinds of stations in there. And I havent really checked them out in awhile but it seems I remember seeing higher security systems also in there, some .5 even. I'll have to look at them again and see if it has changed any. That's Jove space, which CCP are not opening. If you look a little east of it, there's a big cluster of empty (station-wise) systems. Those are the systems CCP are opening up.
Glassback M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.21 12:43:00 - [139] These discussions are pointless. They are giving the regions to me. I decide what happens. G. I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
Xodius Raldari Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.21 13:35:00 - [140] lets have something new besides Sansha,Blood,Guristas,and Angel, they get old after a while.
Kashre Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.23 00:10:00 - [141] They need to have ( at least) one entrance from GW close enough to send cap ships through, and they need to have a further one entrance that is near to every 0.0 region currently in the game. Then we can all go fight over em. :P Maybe a real North vs South war would really happen. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa
Will Hunter Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.23 00:21:00 - [142] Having them accessable by cap ships only, would be pointless as there will be no stations, which means no way to transport an outpost egg... Its a nice idea, but ultimately will lead to 8 carebear alliances that don't have to worry about normal fleet incursions into the new regions, and will spend 99% of there time killing rogue drones for minerals...
Sevrec GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.23 03:25:00 - [143] I've always thought there should be a jump drive module that can be fit on smaller ships. Costs you a highslot and maybe some other penalties. Presto, now anyone can access the "jump-drive only" space. This would improve the "new frontier" feeling as well as help alleviate the massive gatecamp battles I expect will show up when people try to control the entrances. And I want to take my little punisher through a cyno field.
Johanen Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.23 05:27:00 - [144] I just hope that we finally get a faction Dominix. I'd love to have my precious mission Domi with an extra mid or high slot, a higher base resist set, or some sexy bonus to drones or tanking. That and the Drone BSs look awesome, I want to fly one arround.
The Reporter	Posted - 2006.07.23 05:35:00 - [145] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Only 2 months (or so) away. Anyone want to guess how the pilotical map will shift? Personally I think we'll see a lot of curret 0.0 conflict die down whilst alliances try and land grab. My money is on someone after a few weeks hiring the MC to escort and egg or two out into the badlands. Its common information from the spy networks that BOB is already gearing equipment and assets to take over and control the new regions which frankly is a superb idea by the way This will be their new region. What puzzles me is MC acting as if Seleene didnt already knows this! It should be fun for all though.
Gray Carmicheal Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 09:03:00 - [146] As for the Stargates between the systems individually (I'm ALL for Seleene's idea of one-way jump-ins into the new regions) past the initial systems, there's a pre-established Pirate faction there, THEY built some form of a stargate, and at first we won't be able to utilize them because our ships will not have the access codes/freqs/tech for them. This would make a few skills (I.E., Hacking) useful, as well as those "Shiplog" drops that noone bothers with. Just to add to the melting pot of ideas. Only one sig image please - Cathath
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:59:00 - [147] These new territories will be nothing but roving HAC gangs eating alive anything they see, at least until a number of people move in to setup defense. Taking the current resident to defense ratio that most regions present, it'll take 10,000 pilots moving to a single region to defend it. :p ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever

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