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Tkotm Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 13:57:00 - [1] Sunday 2 April, incoming message from Myyhera broadcasted on all Minmatar Channels: " The Wings of Maak leave the Ushra'Khan alliance. We are tired of the complete lack of reaction from the Minmatar republic, we are tired of been called terrorists or even worse pirates! We are freedom fighters, we fight for our enslaved brothers, but we cannot achieve our goals without the backing of our government... So until the parliament changes it's point of view and changes this cold war into an open war, we will keep our distances. We will never be able to change anything while we are punished by our authorities when we kill a slaver or stoped by our customs when we try to bring back our freed brothers to their home. " Monday 3 April, Members of The Wings of Maak corporation rally under a new banner 'Maak Inc.'. We want to leave the republic and its incapable bureaucrats behind. We have approached the GA alliance in order to be able to hold our own region//constelation where we would be able to make our own laws. Wesneday 7 Juin, A Matari Mothership vanishes while under Captain Karishal Muritor's command. We are intrigued by the story, especially as the republic's parliament outdoes itself once more as they are unable to explain its disappearance. Meanwhile the Amarr Empire is putting pressure on Concord to find the position of the ship. Saturday 1 July, some will call it a coincidence, the more extravagant will call it the will of god. On the same day that the GA alliance suffers a crushing defeat in the north, questions are finally been answered on the Motherships disapereance: "If you would stand before me and call this state of affairs in which we are held right and true, then I am sure that it is better for me and my men to fight and die without any right than to live in such a lie." - Captain Muritor Is this the sign we have been waiting for? Is the Republic finally waking up? It's a difficult decision but the orders are given: "It is time for us aswell to stop living a lie, The Minmatar Republic wishes to stay blind, so be it. Terrorists? Pirates? Regardless of what Concord thinks, it will be very ill-advised for any Amarr or slaver to travel unprotected or to mine in belts from now on. It is time for us to return home, please start the move to Nakah where our Thukker brothers will be freeing up an office for us. Even though most of our operations will be based around empire, we will bring all the support we can to our brothers and friends Ushra'Khan."
Graelyn Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 17:42:00 - [2] Again? Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Dantalus Portos Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:15:00 - [3] Edited by: Dantalus Portos on 19/07/2006 18:16:40 I would urge my Amarrian brothers to take the resurgence of Maak very seriously. They are misguided, they are terrorists, but their pilots are skilled and they do not fear battle. Their destruction is inevitable but their threats should not be taken lightly. Maak's treachery and wantan ways will only be cleansed by the purifying light of Amarrian lasers. I look forward to the day when Tkotm's corpse is in stasis within my cargo hold. Amarr Victor!
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.19 18:20:00 - [4] We shall see you burn, Terrorists. Deus Vult! PIE Website PIE public channel:'PIE Public'
Karn Mithralia Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 00:25:00 - [5] It will be good to fly with you and your brothers again Tkotm. Death to slavers! ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.20 02:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Dantalus Portos I look forward to the day when Tkotm's corpse is in stasis within my cargo hold. I could provide you with one... ____
Camar Stormriders	Posted - 2006.07.20 02:40:00 - [7] Excellent news indeed, welcome back Tkotm and Maak!
Ricardo ilMagnifico Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.20 02:59:00 - [8] Welcome brethren!
zoolkhan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 05:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Graelyn Again? fear? U'K recruit!
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.20 05:43:00 - [10] This is great news brothers. I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield and at the bar. Originally by: zoolkhan Originally by: Graelyn Again? fear? >> RECRUITING <<
Leonidas Rex Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 11:31:00 - [11] Edited by: Leonidas Rex on 20/07/2006 11:36:54 Your resoning is flawed and your cause is pointless. The minmatarr are not slaves, they have no need for freedom as they are already free in the best way anyone can hope to be. Free to serve the Amarr nation. The Minmatar are volunteers that we Amarr chose to help build a greater futute for the Amarr race, be proud and happy that we have given you a meaning in your otherwise pointless existence, be proud and happy that you have recieved the honor to serve the Amarr in a cause that is far greater than your primative minds can understand. I am not unreasonable, abandon this flawed path you pursue and join your brothers and sisters in humble service of the Amarr nation. When the age of man has passed, who then will tell our stories? Who will look back and wonder? Who will remember those before us? Who will know of the pains, sacrifices and joys we had?
Tavor Jeager Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:06:00 - [12] I do not know what worse Amarrian the possibility you may actually belive the rubbish you speak or that you would expect us too. My people will be free even if I have to walk over the shatterd corpses of every single one of you slaver scum to do so. To Maak welcome I look forward to flying with you.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Nooey Originally by: Dantalus Portos I look forward to the day when Tkotm's corpse is in stasis within my cargo hold. I could provide you with one... I'll take 3! Oh, and any Amarr you got there? Seriously, when did you start bartering corpses away? Even we don't do that! We give the good corpses to our allies as presents.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 12:41:00 - [14] Quote: Is this the sign we have been waiting for? Is the Republic finally waking up? Please bear in mind in all these conversations that Karishal Muritor is acting on his own, without the sanction of his superior officers or his government. However noble his motives, currently he is a deserter on board of a stolen ship. Moreover, he has refused all efforts of contact from those who would seek a diplomatic solution. This hardly sounds like the go sign from our government to me. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Quote: Is this the sign we have been waiting for? Is the Republic finally waking up? Please bear in mind in all these conversations that Karishal Muritor is acting on his own, without the sanction of his superior officers or his government. However noble his motives, currently he is a deserter on board of a stolen ship. Unless the Minmatar leadership is looking for plausible deniability Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:18:00 - [16] Quote: Unless the Minmatar leadership is looking for plausible deniability Certainly anything seems possible for a paranoid mind, or one looking for an excuse for war. It would not surprise me the least to learn that there are Amarr factions who would like nothing better than to blame the deeds of individual criminals on the Matari in general. Every nation has their warmongers. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Khaldorn Murino Kinda'Shujaa Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:36:00 - [17] Edited by: Khaldorn Murino on 20/07/2006 13:36:31 Glad to see you back lads. Im sure Puls4r owes me a few beers and I will take delivery of them at Unity station. :) - Rise.
Tkotm Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:49:00 - [18] Captain Karishal Muritor a deserter ? The deserters are all those with minmatars blood in their veins and who can sleep the night without doing anything for all our brothers and sisters who are still enslaved. Karishal Muritor is a Hero, an exemple and he can be sure he can count on all of us.
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Quote: Unless the Minmatar leadership is looking for plausible deniability Certainly anything seems possible for a paranoid mind, or one looking for an excuse for war. It would not surprise me the least to learn that there are Amarr factions who would like nothing better than to blame the deeds of individual criminals on the Matari in general. Every nation has their warmongers. The Minmatar Republic trained Muritor. They promoted him. They equipped him. Either their vetting procedures failed to pick up on the fact that he's an unbalanced warmonger, or he's acting with their consent. Bearing in mind that their efforts to track him down seem somewhat lacking, the second possibility cannot be ruled out. Either way, the Republic bears at least some of the responsibility for his actions. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 13:58:00 - [20] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 20/07/2006 14:12:48 Quote: Karishal Muritor is a Hero, an exemple and he can be sure he can count on all of us. Muritor left the fleet he was serving in, without leave, taking with him ships and personnel he had no authorization to take. He has refused to negotiate about it, and has refused to return. You can argue to the end of time that he did this out of good motives, you can call him a hero, and you can agree with him, but nothing you say cannot change the fact that those acts were acts of betrayal and theft. And betrayal and theft rarely "wakes anyone up" in the sense that you speak of here, calling the betrayed to arms on the traitor's side. Edited to add: Amarr, why don't you stay out of it? As is, this is a Matari internal matter. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Derran Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 14:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Every nation has their warmongers. And blind idealists.
Aran Cole Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 17:52:00 - [22] Originally by: zoolkhan Originally by: Graelyn Again? fear? Fear? Not so much. I just hope that the pilot known as BABARR has rejoined. I have a personal score to settle with him and I have learned much since our first meetings. _______________________
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 23:45:00 - [23] Considering that he is talking of directly attacking the Amarr Empire with his 'stolen' ships. I dont think its an internal Matari issue anymore. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Vera Nosfyu Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 02:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Considering that he is talking of directly attacking the Amarr Empire with his 'stolen' ships. I dont think its an internal Matari issue anymore. And what do you suppose to do about it? Retaliate and attack the Republic? By all means, please. I would like nothing more than if you forced the hands of the slackers, cowards, and idealists who would otherwise keep themselves at arms length. ----------------------------------------------------------- "Violence solves all problems, no man, no problem." --Josef Stalin
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.07.21 07:43:00 - [25] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Quote: Unless the Minmatar leadership is looking for plausible deniability Certainly anything seems possible for a paranoid mind, or one looking for an excuse for war. It would not surprise me the least to learn that there are Amarr factions who would like nothing better than to blame the deeds of individual criminals on the Matari in general. Every nation has their warmongers. The Minmatar Republic trained Muritor. They promoted him. They equipped him. Either their vetting procedures failed to pick up on the fact that he's an unbalanced warmonger, or he's acting with their consent. Bearing in mind that their efforts to track him down seem somewhat lacking, the second possibility cannot be ruled out. Either way, the Republic bears at least some of the responsibility for his actions. Declare war on everyone, especially innocents. Amarr diplomacy is so predictable. Your rationale, and I hesitate to use the term when describing your blatherings, is flawed. Then again it could be argued your entire "culture" is flawed but I'll save that for another day. I live in Providence and when hunting terrorists, slavers and pirates in neighbouring regions I can't help but notice the Empire has a Sansha problem. When will you be declaring war on the Caldari State? Sansha Kuvakei was a Caldari, they trained him, they must be responsible for his actions. Perhaps you should ally with anyone who ever fell prey to the Guristas, after all Fatal and The Rabbit were both Caldari Navy officers before becoming outlaws. Perhaps everyone should hold what is left of the Amarr Empire responsible for every atrocity comitted by the Blood Raiders? They are an offshoot of the Empire that were declared outlaw by one of your Emperors if I recall. By your twisted idea of logic the Amarr Empire is, at least in part, responsible for the attack on Mabnen. >> RECRUITING <<
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 08:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Derran Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Every nation has their warmongers. And blind idealists. And diplomats, loyalists, heros, anarchists, pirates, thieves, and traitors. Yes. Thrace argues my point, which I cannot say I like too much under current circumstances, but I must admit he still does it well. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 08:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Derran Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Every nation has their warmongers. And blind idealists. And diplomats, loyalists, heros, anarchists, pirates, thieves, and traitors. Your point? Thrace gave you my argument, which I cannot say I like too much under current circumstances, but I must admit he still does it well. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.21 10:26:00 - [28] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 21/07/2006 10:33:49 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 21/07/2006 10:32:57 Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Quote: Unless the Minmatar leadership is looking for plausible deniability Certainly anything seems possible for a paranoid mind, or one looking for an excuse for war. It would not surprise me the least to learn that there are Amarr factions who would like nothing better than to blame the deeds of individual criminals on the Matari in general. Every nation has their warmongers. The Minmatar Republic trained Muritor. They promoted him. They equipped him. Either their vetting procedures failed to pick up on the fact that he's an unbalanced warmonger, or he's acting with their consent. Bearing in mind that their efforts to track him down seem somewhat lacking, the second possibility cannot be ruled out. Either way, the Republic bears at least some of the responsibility for his actions. Declare war on everyone, especially innocents. Amarr diplomacy is so predictable. Your rationale, and I hesitate to use the term when describing your blatherings, is flawed. Then again it could be argued your entire "culture" is flawed but I'll save that for another day. I live in Providence and when hunting terrorists, slavers and pirates in neighbouring regions I can't help but notice the Empire has a Sansha problem. When will you be declaring war on the Caldari State? Sansha Kuvakei was a Caldari, they trained him, they must be responsible for his actions. Perhaps you should ally with anyone who ever fell prey to the Guristas, after all Fatal and The Rabbit were both Caldari Navy officers before becoming outlaws. Perhaps everyone should hold what is left of the Amarr Empire responsible for every atrocity comitted by the Blood Raiders? They are an offshoot of the Empire that were declared outlaw by one of your Emperors if I recall. By your twisted idea of logic the Amarr Empire is, at least in part, responsible for the attack on Mabnen. As ever, you take things completely out of context in an attempt to score cheap political points. The Guristas and Sanshas have shown themselves to be as much of a risk to the Caldari State as to the Amarr Empire. Muritor has not threatened the Republic. The Blood Raiders have been hounded and harrassed by Imperial forces since they were declared heretics. Muritor has so far been allowed to go about his business without any interference from the Republic. If you bother to read my earlier comments, you will notice that I do not claim that Muritor is working for the Republic, merely that he may be. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 11:11:00 - [29] Quote: Muritor has not threatened the Republic. Not directly. However, his theft is a blow, and the havoc he can cause to international relatinships is a very real threat. I assure you, too, that loyal forces are in motion to seek a solution that will be favourable to as many parties as possible, and that those forces are not working with Muritor as long as he remains an outlaw. Yet, we will also do our best to avoid violence between the Matari as long as is at all possible. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.21 11:30:00 - [30] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 21/07/2006 11:29:52 Quote: After he stole Republic assets and was made an outlaw the Repblic has engaged in a man hunt. If this refers to the operations I am aware of, calling it "manhunt" is nothing but propaganda. Which I suppose is enough said on a public forum. Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring

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