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Tsun Lao
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tsun Lao on 20/07/2006 15:19:00
After some close observation I have come to the conclusion that Amarr is really struggeling.
Not just by looking at PVP where Amarr usually draws the shortest straw, but also in terms of PVE (Raven ftw etc)
Create a few alts, Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and see who has the fewest people in alliance chat.
Amarr are loosig on all fronts, and I cant figure out why CCP isnt adressing this issue.
Unless tux is the new ceo.
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:22:00 -
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Amarr isn't really being screwed over horribly, but you are right, they are often underused in combat. However, they have a few advantages, especially for lowsec NPCing.
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Novarei
Ninth Column
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:22:00 -
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Its the cycle of nerf and boost.
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Novarei
Ninth Column
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh DIE AMARRS DIE
You wish.
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turnschuh
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:26:00 -
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DIE AMARRS DIE
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 20/07/2006 15:30:36
Originally by: Tsun Lao Edited by: Tsun Lao on 20/07/2006 15:19:00
After some close observation I have come to the conclusion that Amarr is really struggeling.
Not just by looking at PVP where Amarr usually draws the shortest straw, but also in terms of PVE (Raven ftw etc)
Create a few alts, Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and see who has the fewest people in alliance chat.
Amarr are loosig on all fronts, and I cant figure out why CCP isnt adressing this issue.
Unless tux is the new ceo.
Amarr is a dying race?
I resent that statement, Sir.
It's just... the air gets thin at the top
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:30:00 -
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Arbitrator ftw One of the best drone cruisers in the game. Hands down. And its T2 versions (Curse and Pilgram) are pwnmobiles of the highest caliber. Bar none.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:32:00 -
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Flying minnie ships, i cant say i respect lasers much.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:33:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with Amarr that a new Emperor and lower PG reqs on beam lasers won't sort out.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Amarr is a dying race?
I resent that statement, Sir.
It's just... the air gets thin at the top
Or in the case of most Amarrian men, the hair gets thin on the top
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Kylania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:35:00 -
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hylleX
Spontaneous Defenestration Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Flying minnie ships, i cant say i respect lasers much.
Crystals need more thermal damage its just stoopid right now. EAN + Any ship = Lasers crap, Minmatar ship + EAN = Is someone throwing stones at me? ---------------------------------------------------------
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:37:00 -
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Dying race, no. The problem is the Amarr are the best balanced race. And because the other three are not, it makes the Amarr look unattractive play-wise.
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Kilo Paskaa
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:40:00 -
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Theres nothing wrong with amarr. You just think because they only use guns and hard tank to fight while others use itty bitty ewar and drones (BOO!!).
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Victor Vision
Amarr is a dying race?
I resent that statement, Sir.
It's just... the air gets thin at the top
Or in the case of most Amarrian men, the hair gets thin on the top
Erm yes, that too.
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Grimpak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake There's nothing wrong with Amarr that a new Emperor and lower PG reqs on beam lasers won't sort out.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Zaphod Jones
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zaphod Jones on 20/07/2006 15:47:30
Originally by: Saeris Tal'Urduar Dying race, no. The problem is ... the Amarr look unattractive ...
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Permian
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:49:00 -
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43 pages devoted to the Amarr situation
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Evelyn Lavi
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Saeris Tal'Urduar Dying race, no. The problem is the Amarr are the best balanced race. And because the other three are not, it makes the Amarr look unattractive play-wise.
The problem, the way I see it, is that all of the "uber" mods are medium slot. And we know how many medium slots Amarr ships get. EW, those freaking sensor boosters, etc.
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Brother Tycho
Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:54:00 -
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when people look outside at amarr they base there opinions on only a couple of our ships ie: Curse Pilgrim and Zelot
Curse's and Pilgrim's work as there damage comes from drones.
Zelot works well due to the extra range and dmg in its Bonus.
these ships are T2 however.
in some respects amarr ships are fine i think the punisher is fairly balanced.
the omen and maller are fairly dire so yeah Arbi is our best Cruiser after all it dose not need lasers to make dmg.
i think lasers are the problem with amarr ships they suck to much cap 75% of npcs have crazy em resists i would say most people pvping have at least 60 to 80 em.
in the Amarr BS line up we have the Geddon that has to little cap to run a AB armour tank and fire at the same time for any period of time ok it an gank but with enough dmg mods any ship can.
the Apoc has too little dmg is too slow and works better with projectiles so yeah change the -10% cap use to proj rate of fire.
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: White Ronin Arbitrator ftw One of the best drone cruisers in the game. Hands down. And its T2 versions (Curse and Pilgram) are pwnmobiles of the highest caliber. Bar none.
Arbitrator is a nice ship indeed, and the Curse and Pilgrim is super duper.
But that donest change the fact that Amarr is horrible borked.
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Tsun Lao
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Tycho
i think lasers are the problem with amarr ships they suck to much cap
Correct. The fitting requirement is redicilous.
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Tiny Carlos
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: hylleX
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Flying minnie ships, i cant say i respect lasers much.
Crystals need more thermal damage its just stoopid right now. EAN + Any ship = Lasers crap, Minmatar ship + EAN = Is someone throwing stones at me?
Stones would be kinetic damage, please stick to your lasers
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Tsun Lao
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Carlos
Originally by: hylleX
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Flying minnie ships, i cant say i respect lasers much.
Crystals need more thermal damage its just stoopid right now. EAN + Any ship = Lasers crap, Minmatar ship + EAN = Is someone throwing stones at me?
Stones would be kinetic damage, please stick to your lasers
ahahah..........NO.
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Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom R i s e
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:26:00 -
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amarr? dying? no way! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=366067
the geddon is alive and well! the zealot with uber resists! and of course some of the best cruisers, recon covert ops and friggy pvp'ing this side of the caldari border zone
amarr ftw although the pg and damage type issues are still there.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:29:00 -
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I still have this inner image of the apoc and the machariel having sex from last weekend. Is that how ammatars are brought into this world btw?
Amarr have pretty ships... minmatar have useful ones. Thats fair.
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Brother Tycho
Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gindar amarr? dying? no way! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=366067
the geddon is alive and well! the zealot with uber resists! and of course some of the best cruisers, recon covert ops and friggy pvp'ing this side of the caldari border zone
amarr ftw although the pg and damage type issues are still there.
i have to disagree with the pvp frig comment our frigs are fine for PVE but it takes a fair skill gap to beat other races t2 frigs and top teirs in a stand up fight.
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Drizit
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:35:00 -
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Awww come on, We all know it's not Amarr being underpowered, it's everyone else being overpowered.
Tank+lasers=negative cap! The majority of Amarr ships can't tank worth crap cos too much cap is required to shoot back.
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Morgat Harag
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:51:00 -
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"They are alone. They are a dying people. We should let them pass." -- Liberty Network |
Eternal Fury
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tsun Lao Edited by: Tsun Lao on 20/07/2006 15:19:00
After some close observation I have come to the conclusion that Amarr is really struggeling.
Not just by looking at PVP where Amarr usually draws the shortest straw, but also in terms of PVE (Raven ftw etc)
Create a few alts, Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar and see who has the fewest people in alliance chat.
Amarr are loosig on all fronts, and I cant figure out why CCP isnt adressing this issue.
Unless tux is the new ceo.
This is actually standard fare for MMO's. You'll have one group who is on the bottom, with most in the middle and one slightly or more on top. The one on the bottom will be buffed up to just above the previous leader, and we'll have a new leader and a new bottom of the rung.
Some MMO's do the reverse. They nerf the one on the top, moveing the 2nd place one into the top position.
Give it time. Every racial ship set will have it's day.
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