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Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
84
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:46:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Do you guys even have permits? I'm having a hard time understanding the logic of your statements without permits. And here comes some ganker who does not even live in low sec. I frequent it but don't live there. Its too much of a commute to my job bringing justice to miners and saving highsec.
Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve. |

Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
7
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:48:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote: Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve.
This pretty much explains it all. The community is a bit on the edge with CODE anyways. The AT thing only made it worse. |

Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
37
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:53:00 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote: Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve.
This pretty much explains it all. The community is a bit on the edge with CODE anyways. The AT thing only made it worse.
I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
84
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:56:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote: Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve.
This pretty much explains it all. The community is a bit on the edge with CODE anyways. The AT thing only made it worse. I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code. Basically, "I wasn't even there, man!"
OK. Excuses from CODE. What else is new?
If you suck, just say you suck. It's ok, man. |

Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
470
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:57:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote: Today? It's like "GO BACK TO HIGHSEC FA**** FU***** PIECE OF **** I WILL FIND YOU RL AND ******** KILL YOU" and other creative responses like that.
I get this stuff daily. Especially now that i hi-sec wardec corps.
But when i was pirating out or Mara and down the Mushikegi pipe i always would honor a ransom. Only one time did i not honor it and that is because the target lied and got caught out. I tagged his Navy Raven in Hasama and ransomed 100 million. He said he didn't have it so we agreed on 80M. He then transferred 800M to my account. I then blew him up...........he asked why and i told him it was because he had lied.
Let's just say that he had a "Tender Moment" in the chat.
I don't think that i ever read such a passionately vile rant that was so filled with hatred that i swear he was going to pop a blood vessel. -áMiko Sunji:-á "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."
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Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
37
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:59:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote: Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve.
This pretty much explains it all. The community is a bit on the edge with CODE anyways. The AT thing only made it worse. I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code. Basically, "I wasn't even there, man!" OK. Excuses from CODE. What else is new? If you suck, just say you suck. It's ok, man.
I don't follow your logic (or the lack thereof). I haven't even logged into client since Saturday :) if that is why I suck then there's little I can do about it.
Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
84
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:02:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Eldwinn wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote: Don't forget you're too busy being brilliant in the alliance tournament and spending countless hours making up lies about what happened to actually be good at Eve.
This pretty much explains it all. The community is a bit on the edge with CODE anyways. The AT thing only made it worse. I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code. Basically, "I wasn't even there, man!" OK. Excuses from CODE. What else is new? If you suck, just say you suck. It's ok, man. I don't follow your logic (or the lack thereof). I haven't even logged into client since Saturday :) if that is why I suck then there's little I can do about it.
The logic is, whatever your personal situation might be is irrelevant. Your alliance has earned you the right to shut your mouth for a good long time. Your participation in the chat boards is as a representative of your alliance, which is currently obligated to hang its head in silent shame, rather than spout the same jokes about permits that haven't been funny in the longest time. |

Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
8
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:04:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:
The logic is, whatever your personal situation might be is irrelevant. Your alliance has earned you the right to shut your mouth for a good long time. Your participation in the chat boards is as a representative of your alliance, which is currently obligated to hang its head in silent shame, rather than spout the same jokes about permits that haven't been funny in the longest time.
We are way off topic now. As much as I enjoy talking poorly about CODE we lost focus on the main thread. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1129
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:05:00 -
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The downside of paying Ransoms is it may get you watchlisted as an easy mark.
Watch listing is also the main reason not to fly with shiny pods. The billion ISK for implants lost is nothing really just annoying once you get established in game - but getting watch listed for a potential "shiney pod" can be an ongoing pain in the butt. |

Charles Muffins
Radon Industrial
3
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Posted - 2014.08.21 01:05:00 -
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I'm still surprised why anyone uses implants. |
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NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
907
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Posted - 2014.08.21 01:35:00 -
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Charles Muffins wrote:I'm still surprised why anyone uses implants. They can provide a pretty awesome boost to fits Like slaves give 30% more armor, crystals 50% boost, Halos are the only sig reducer in existence The hardwires are pretty obvious why, free percentage and hiend free extra skill level!
PS just got fail ganked by a vexor, now at 6 vexors on the same badger Got locked and shot right after cloak drop in Hisec
So, no ransom, nada just a shoot me and fail Check KB for name, I got her instead. |

Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
39
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Posted - 2014.08.21 04:06:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote: The logic is, whatever your personal situation might be is irrelevant. Your alliance has earned you the right to shut your mouth for a good long time. Your participation in the chat boards is as a representative of your alliance, which is currently obligated to hang its head in silent shame, rather than spout the same jokes about permits that haven't been funny in the longest time.
If the right to speak is contigent on achievement, we've still done loads more than you. I'll concede pressing a retort to your ill-mannered insult to avoid derailing the original post, though I will say we won't be "shutting our mouths" or "hanging our heads in shame" as you so eloquently put it, for quite some time (and if anything will ramp up oprations in times to come). You sound very angry, perhaps you should take a break from the game. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6384
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Posted - 2014.08.21 05:31:00 -
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EvE online is best played angry. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5347
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Posted - 2014.08.21 05:52:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:EvE online is best played angry.
I find myself wishing I had the energy to play angry. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
22938
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Posted - 2014.08.21 07:11:00 -
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i don't...  Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1503
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Posted - 2014.08.21 16:07:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:There are very few 'pirates' left in EVE. Most people living in low/null are PVPers. They want the killmail, not the isk. any loot you drop is just a bonus.
why? because there are simple other, better ways to make money. running plexes or having a highsec alt run missions/incursions.
pirating for ransoms is a terrible way to make money. it rarely pays off large.
Most piracy in fact takes place in HiSec these days. I was a pirate for the longest time before changing career paths.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1460
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Posted - 2014.08.21 16:34:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:I can't believe anyone seriously wants to bring up "pirates of yore." The "Golden Age of Piracy..." You really don't want to go that way. The only "legend" from then is found in fiction today. THEN, they were criminals just like "terrorists" today. Governments sent fleets to destroy them. They were hung on sight, and nobody - NOBODY - but them wanted to be them. Get your facts straight in making comparisons here...or not. Yeah, you can talk out your @$$. Somebody said everybody wants to be the lead singer...I was in several bands over the many years as the lead singer, and I guarantee you, the rest of the musicians weren't bum rushing the mic to see who got there first. Again, the fiction...people who have nothing to do with music think the lead singer is everything. People who haven't got a clue about the past think Jack Sparrow is the who to be.
You can't be a pirate in this game simply because that kind of behavior is sanctioned, it's not punished. You aren't an outlaw. You're an in-law. You suffer no retribution, no ostracization, and you certainly don't pay a price of any sort for it. In fact, this so-called piracy is so laughable it's hard to imagine anyone wishing to see themselves as competitive and competent gamers admitting publicly to doing it. To discuss it like you're putting a fine point to it? How delusional can you GET?
Dunnat make me laff. Pyrates...in EVE. Funny. Drink your cocoa and watch some cartoons. School starts up in a week...kids.
I'm still a pirate. And "logistics" do healing. Jeez dude, you might wanna take the semantics rant to Rancer.
We're just taking the pirate theme from books and movies, not that from actual history. It's altism that makes pirates evade their sanctions easily, not core mechanics. Eve Piracy is not competative, it's resource harvesting at best. I'll admit it takes about the same level of competence as running a mining laser, it's just infinity times more fun. I must be extremely delusional to try and have fun in an MMO, right? Relax mate, it's just a friggin' video game. With pirates.  |

Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.08.21 17:19:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. I was not eligible for AT this year so i didnt really follow much regardless. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code (though I appreciate the compliment all the same.)
"the Clockword Pineapple gank is hilariously true"
We believe you. *wink*
*pats Rabe on the head and gives him a cookie for a nice try |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
64
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:03:00 -
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i tried ransoming got told to p*** off so now i sell drugs, and id rather have the loot and killmail then even bother to start a convo with a victim EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics -á
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Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
57
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:53:00 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. I was not eligible for AT this year so i didnt really follow much regardless. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code (though I appreciate the compliment all the same.) "the Clockword Pineapple gank is hilariously true" We believe you. *wink* *pats Rabe on the head and gives him a cookie for a nice try
Since I presume you have access to the killboards you can pat in vain if you prefer. and I dont mind the cookie; call it a bonus on a 21 bil freighter gank. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
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Van Steiza
Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards
72
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Posted - 2014.08.22 04:25:00 -
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As a player who lived in lowsec and pirated for many years I will say that true lowsec piracy died years ago.
After faction warfare things just went downhill and the meta changed.
Where before there were a fair number of pirates spready between the many lowsecs and pipes there are now hundreds and hundreds of faction warfare runners.
You see less and less people willing to go into lowsec to bear or do risky isk making ventures which means less juicy ransoms and targets for the oldschool true pirates.
The fishing grounds are unsustainable.
All that is left is straight pvp these days which in itself is not bad, however this has resulted in the oldschool pirate meta practically not existing. There be no booty for the tooty as it where!
I use to make all my money from ransoms/people ejecting from theres hips in the old days. I miss those days it will never be the same. |

Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:52:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:I've been in Slovenia on business since Saturday so all I know is heresay besides the Clockwork Pineapple gank which is hilariously true. I was not eligible for AT this year so i didnt really follow much regardless. That all said, I'm not too busy being brilliant about anything except on interpreting the Code (though I appreciate the compliment all the same.) "the Clockword Pineapple gank is hilariously true" We believe you. *wink* *pats Rabe on the head and gives him a cookie for a nice try Since I presume you have access to the killboards you can pat in vain if you prefer. and I dont mind the cookie; call it a bonus on a 21 bil freighter gank.
*sigh*
Yes, everyone knows you ganked another freighter. Everyone also knows that has nothing to do with the fact you couldn't find 12 people to fight in the AT. please at least try to keep up.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
1300
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:11:00 -
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The thing with ransom is....you need time to negotiate ransom.
There are different situations where a honest scumbag can make some ISK out of ransom. In High Sec I guess it is only possible if you catch someone you have wardecced....or someone who is stupid enough to pick up a suspect flag unintentionally. While you probably have all the time in the world ransoming a single wartarget in high sec - ransoming a Suspect can be compromised by the next trigger happy pilot that flies by.
In Low Sec you can catch people in all kind of situations...gates, missions, plexes or belts, yet a negotiation for ransom is always under a lot of time pressure. As long as you are not in a group and try to ransom someone solo there are either gate guns which end you pretty fast if your target isn-¦t a pirate or aggressed you first (yeah I know right? that never ever happens) or rats that - if you are flying caldari low sec, tend to switch aggro and then jam the crap out of you (and you loose point). It is there fore less probable to even get offered a ransom when tackled by a single pirate in low.
SO while I could think of ways of making ransom a really profitable source of solo income in 0.0 and high sec, you basicly need to be in a group (aka >2 pilots to for example switch point at gates to reset the gate guns while ransoming) in low sec to make use of every "theatre".
tl.,dr.: Solo Pirates can ransom victims in High Sec or 0,0 - Low sec plays a minor role due to environmental boundaries. A group of people can ransom everywhere but also attract more attention.
Edit: Regarding people that make huge income by ganking freighters with destroyers - its efficient and looks a lot like piracy to me. Different kind of pirates but I would call them that. The mining permits CODE (is it still the mining thing?) gives out....I would not call that piracy...its more like a criminal organisation with mafia style. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Trinica fey
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:12:00 -
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Charles Muffins wrote:From my experience in null/lowsec, it seems to me that the only way to survive is to come out guns blazing in a battleship. The issue with this is that there's really no economic opportunity's for anyone who's flying a non-PVP ship (miner, hauler, etc.). There's just too much ganking/gate camping, and why is that? There's more money in classic pirate ransom than blowing up anything that flies in space, and I'd take ISK over ship explosions and killboard numbers any day. With the "if it moves, it's dead" tactics it limits the growth of that area. It makes it too dangerous for anyone without a PVP fit. At least if I pay 50% of my ship value to a pirate, I get to keep my non-pvp ship and not recieve money from my horrible "platinum" policy which actually covers 1% of my ship value. That brings me into another matter. Insurance is broken. CCP's "anti-fraud" insurance backfired. Why does my super-durable procurer have a "100%" value of 2 million ISK, but my frigate insurance worth the real 100%? I think when CCP designed nullsec/lowsec, they didn't expect that ganking would become so popular, and insurance needs a big overhaul. Once nullsec/lowsec becomes more ISK centered and insurance becomes useful, people will begin going there more often.
Sorry friend but your doing it wrong. firstly guns blazing in a battleship will just get you blobbed or hot dropped. ganking gate camping is a mechanic which has always been with EVE and i consider it to be a good one. because at least for me you gotta have your wits about you and you need the right fit and know the area you are moving into when flying through low/null more null. I actually think PVE and PVP in these area's are inherently connected simply because they are not only your source of income but also a "Pirates". hence I fit my PVE Ship For PVP I also welcome the gankers i want fights too and its just great when you have 3 hostiles in a site trying to kill you and failling all they can do is sit there and tank its just upto you to figure out the tactics to do so. and you will still loose ships to gankers but you'll also fend some of and possible kill some. I recommend you understand how to kite and fly shield nano ships there arn't many left with good damage application at range anymore. |

Grim Hood
Meatshield Bastards The Bastards.
103
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:13:00 -
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The other day I tried killing some highsec mission runners. I got in a fight with a Ferox, but my crappy dps couldn't break his tank. He offered to pay me to let him go. I received 10 mil and warped off. So glad I didn't focus on PvE when I started playing this game 3 weeks ago. I probably would have quit by now. My YT PvP channel:-áhttp://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHuhv1Rgg9Q1QfWewaH8naw
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
377
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:49:00 -
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http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html Check it out, Grim Hood. A small frigate can do horribad/wondrous things when applied properly. Ransoms, tears, loot, or whatever your metric for success can be achieved. |

Lekrii
Happy Time Gang
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:59:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html Check it out, Grim Hood. A small frigate can do horribad/wondrous things when applied properly. Ransoms, tears, loot, or whatever your metric for success can be achieved.
Great guide...mind if I send you a message in-game?
I have been playing for a while, but have primarily been mining/industry (ie, no PvP, apart from tackling in CTAs). I started this character to actually learn PvP/less than reputable playing without destroying my mining/indy main's reputation in my current alliance.
I have no clue how to do it, but I want to learn pirating with this toon |

NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
908
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:29:00 -
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Part of the issue might be where it occurs. In hisec non consensual pvp is at max 30 seconds, so its rather hard to ransom with that. In low and null, they are armed and can shoot back. There really arent that many that cant where it matters. Haulers run gate to station so you have gun aggro which makes it hard to deal with. |

lord xavier
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
35
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:33:00 -
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They are all logged off due to a minor inconvenience with the servers being constantly shut off. |

Boom McCondor
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:44:00 -
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I can neither confirm nor deny that Loyd is in fact a pirate because he may or may not have ganked one of my alts one time when I was...using questionable judgement. |
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