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Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.21 21:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Smada
Have to agree with DS - a 250W PSU probably isn't going to cut it with a modern, power hungry graphics solution.
Depends on the PSU pretty much. My Shuttle 250W isn't having any problems with a X1600Pro. I'm not running any other powerhungry hardware though, except for an age old Athlon XP.
Originally by: O'knar
As a rule of thumb, nVidia ftw. I've always used their cards, and they've always been great. I just upgraded to the GeForce 6600GT, and it screams.
I've had 4 different GeForces; a original GeForce 256, a GeForce 2 MX, a Ti4200 and a 6600GT. Only 1 of them isn't broken now and that's the GF2MX. 256 just decided to start randomly corrupting textures, Ti4200 had it's caps leak (and do a chess-pattern on screen) which I had replaced but it started doing the pattern again after a week of surfing the web, while the 6600GT just decided to die without any visible reason conveniently a month after the warranty had expired. None of them were overclocked either before the magic smoke started acting weird.
Suffice to say, my experience with GeForces is rather horrible.
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Caethes Adain
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.21 22:48:00 -
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I've been thinking about my next gfx upgrade for months now and it comes down to
ATI x1900gt
Nvidia 7900gt
As a rule of thumb, ATI have better visual qaulity and Nvidia have more speed due to the way they 'optimise' their cards.
I think at the mo' ATI seem to be increasing their pixel pipelines whereas nvid are trying to be a bit more 'all round' with their gpu design.
After reading numerous reviews about said gfx cards, nvid are on top on most games besides oblivion.
I'm no fanboy, but i'm going to go for nvid, even though the hideous fx series has plagued my PC for the last few years. I sooo wanted to for for ATI but the price/performance ball is in nvid court atm.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 21/07/2006 23:26:42
Originally by: Directive
I've had 4 different GeForces; a original GeForce 256, a GeForce 2 MX, a Ti4200 and a 6600GT. Only 1 of them isn't broken now and that's the GF2MX. 256 just decided to start randomly corrupting textures, Ti4200 had it's caps leak (and do a chess-pattern on screen) which I had replaced but it started doing the pattern again after a week of surfing the web, while the 6600GT just decided to die without any visible reason conveniently a month after the warranty had expired. None of them were overclocked either before the magic smoke started acting weird.
Suffice to say, my experience with GeForces is rather horrible.
It sounds like you're buying from a bad board-maker.
The chipmaker has nothing to do with such problems whatsoever. Since nVidia does not make boards for their cards, they have nothing to do with the problem.
Originally by: Caethes Adain
As a rule of thumb, ATI have better visual qaulity and Nvidia have more speed due to the way they 'optimise' their cards.
Exactly the opposite. ATI has implemented built-in "optimizations" into their Catalyst Control Center (called Catalyst AI) which can be turned off, but are on by default. nVidia has no such cheats.
nVidia is known for superior visual quality, but the difference these days has pretty much dropped to zero. Both cards give basically equal image quality.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:53:00 -
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probably the best buyers guide to vid cards ever made with no BS and all the tech facts
http://futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164
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Avon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:58:00 -
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Some gfx card makers provide a lifetime waranty.
If I buy nVidia I buy BFG.
Had cards replaced before, no problems at all.
They may not be the cheapest, but they are forever.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
probably the best buyers guide to vid cards ever made with no BS and all the tech facts
http://futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164
I heartily endorse this link.
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evistin
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:00:00 -
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The Card you buy now, is of not much value or differance.
Its when Kali gvies eve a face-life then you need to look into a new card.
The current engine of eve is not very hungry compared to morden 3d engines. you can run 2 to 3 clients at a playable fps on 2 to 3 19" mointers, respectivly.
Looking at the pictures of the new engine, I am wondering how much horse power do I need to run 2 eve clients at the same time right now.
Hold you purchase till the specfication for the Kali upgrade comes 1st, it will most certainly help give you an informed decision
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:14:00 -
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I have one of these....Graphical Goodness!!!
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Chris Supernova
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:27:00 -
[39]
Videocard Comparison
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Shittake
RONA Deepspace
Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:39:00 -
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I started off using ATI cards and their flukey drivers drove me away. I've used nVidia ever since.
The fact that some of my friends who use ATI use some special modified 3rd-party version of the ATI drivers to make them work better says it all.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/07/2006 00:41:38
Originally by: ****take
I started off using ATI cards and their flukey drivers drove me away. I've used nVidia ever since.
The fact that some of my friends who use ATI use some special modified 3rd-party version of the ATI drivers to make them work better says it all.
Things have changed in 5 years, Shittake.
Today, nVidia drivers are actually quite a bit more "flaky" than ATI drivers, which work flawlessly out of the box.
On the other hand, nVidia drivers generally have more features, and ATI Linux drivers are basically nonexistant, while nVidia ones work perfectly out of the box.
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FuzionMonkey
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:55:00 -
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I'm an nVIDIA fan. I have an ATi card and I don't like it much.
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:04:00 -
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blind faith / raving fandom to ati
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Kalindra naskan
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Kalindra naskan on 22/07/2006 01:28:17
Not to hijack, but what do you guys think is better of these two cards.
Does ps 3.0 etc make any real difference?
Right now I'm leaning on x850 XT.
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Luc Boye
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:40:00 -
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I've had nvidia cards since GeForce2, from ASUS, MSI, Gainward and XFX. They all worked like charm even when I removed fans and put passive cooler or water cooling. The only problem I ever had was with Gainward card, it would overheat no matter how I cooled it, but I guess that was due to bad example, rather due to bad model.
Also I run both windows and linux, and nvida binary drivers for linux rock.
Now I do have radeon mobility something on my laptop, and its good as well. So read reviews, performance wise I'd say it doesn't really diff that much between same class of cards, but things I look for are power consumption, cooling, and noise level.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 04:10:00 -
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GeForce!
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Buy ISK for RL cash here!
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Torze
Legion Of The Void
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Posted - 2006.07.22 05:21:00 -
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I still run an ATI Radeon 9500 pro and Eve runs just fine. One suggestion I do have if you choose an ATI card is to just uninstall the Catalyst Control Center cause that program actually causes problems. Card itself is still great though.
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Ann Mari
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.22 07:45:00 -
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Bigger is definitaly not better...
My old 4800Ti ran circles around the 5700s
And I now have a 6800GT that I'm very happy with :)
And I prefer Nvidia over Radeon anyday and twice on Sundays
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"The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"
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Hunt Smacker
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 08:36:00 -
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I'm looking to replace my GF5700 LE... It seems really crap for some reason. I'm looking for an AGP card (no PCI-E) for under say ... $150, no more.... Less money is better! Spending enough lately as it is.. 
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Hydrian Alante
Galactic Fighter Syndicate
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.22 08:51:00 -
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You can Upgrade to what you want...
You wonŠt see any more fps over a FX5900.
CPU and RAM is the limiting factor in EvE.
If you really want to upgrade your Graphics Card for EvE just wait till the new DX10 Cards are out at the End of this year.
Then and only then you will have the maximum viewing pleasure with the new EvE Client.
When you are upgrading your graphics card now you have to do it again if you wanna get all the Eyecandy which the Vista Client brings.
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Hunt Smacker
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 08:57:00 -
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I think I will, I'm getting like 10-30 fps with this thing. What the heck is wrong with it? Oh, the system is a 3.2 P4 (64bit supported), 1gb DDR.. Supports only 8x AGP.
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Hydrian Alante
Galactic Fighter Syndicate
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.22 09:12:00 -
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Ah FX5700LE is musch slower than a FX5900.
The FX5700 Chip is a cut down FX5900. And it is cut down to the half.
The Mermory Interface was Cut down too. From 256Bit to 128Bit. This means half Memory Bandwitch with at the same clock rates.
The FX5700LE is even more slower. It has reduced Clock Rates and the memory interface is even more cut down, to a 64Bit one, which makes the Card incredibly slow.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hydrian Alante
You can Upgrade to what you want...
You wonŠt see any more fps over a FX5900.
CPU and RAM is the limiting factor in EvE.
This doesn't seem that true anymore.
I upgraded from a 9700 Pro (faster than an FX5900) to an x800 GTO and got a massive speed boost.
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 10:13:00 -
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im superhappy with my 7800 gt 
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Hunt Smacker
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 17:50:00 -
[55]
So your saying I should wait until the next line of AGP supported cards are out, but doesn't that mean I'm gonna have to pay a large sum? 
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Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.22 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
It sounds like you're buying from a bad board-maker.
Creative, Gainward, XFX. Don't remember what the GF2MX was, but it's still working :)
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