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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:25:00 -
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Any suggestions on this one?
Amog other things, I'm an intermediary ship seller. IE, I find customers for ship sellers, convince them to pay a bit more than the ship seller was going to ask, make a kick-back from the profit, and send the money on to the manufacturer. I save manufacturers from having to find customers, and doesn't really cost them anything at all.
This morning, A GM debited my account for 1.9 billion ISK, and refunded it to a couple of buyers. They got their two Charon freighters, and the supplier got 1.85 billion of that. I've petitioned...but my wallet is currently at -1.8 billion ISK. Given that I'm the Chief Financial Officer for my corporation, this presents some problems, namely in folks who want to buy shares. But I can't do missions either (can't afford collateral) and my plethora of buy orders...I don't even want to go there... :(
-Shelix
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Dexus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:28:00 -
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I'll send you 2 bil when I get ingame
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:28:00 -
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That definatly doesent sound right...
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Scythus Aratan
Shadow Company
Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:30:00 -
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Why did the GM take the isk?
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Nihn Lemai
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Dexus
I'll send you 2 bil when I get ingame
I got -2 bil to!!
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:33:00 -
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Sounds like someone took advantage of that escrow exploit that the Devs fixed the other day. 
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:34:00 -
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight, now that you've given us this version, let's hear what really happened.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Samirol on 25/07/2006 00:35:55
which escrow exploit would that be?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:45:00 -
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That's the ISK seller witch hunt. Petition it and you will get your money back.
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Darkstarr
Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:57:00 -
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Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
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SengH
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
yeah they will... I remember them putting someone who gained some isk illegitmately with a -900mil wallet balance and he came on the forums to whine about it. I also know alot of people who have gone into - wallet balance when their ships have been reimbursed and CCP yanked the insurance.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:00:00 -
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the sensmoral of it all is "dont exploit"
if something appears to good to be true then it propably is.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
yeah they will... I remember them putting someone who gained some isk illegitmately with a -900mil wallet balance and he came on the forums to whine about it. I also know alot of people who have gone into - wallet balance when their ships have been reimbursed and CCP yanked the insurance.
They did, it was bittersweet to see M0o beg for handouts on the forums.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Pardack
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
They sure are allowed to do that and it happens regularly. When you lose a ship let's say to lag. You get your insurance payment. Then you petition the loss. Some time passes and you spend a bunch of the ISK. Then you get your ship re-imbursed. GMs then deduct the insurance amount from your wallet and voila, you're in negative isk. Happens all the time. That's not the only way to get into negative ISK from GM actions either.
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Jonis Sinmaker
Valiant Logistics Inc.
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 25/07/2006 01:10:29
Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
You sir, are wrong....
GM's can and will put you at a negative balance.. Just ask Conmen about logging in to a -2 billion isk on his wallet a month or so ago. GM's IMO are not doing their jobs...they see people with lots of isk and no real income flow other then high end incoming received from players or escrow and assume they are buying/selling isk. They don't ask or even investigate...they just take. This is why when you hire someone to make sure the laws of your game world are kept up and followed you need competent people doing it and not somebody who doesn't know his ass from a whole in the ground.
If the GM's would LOOK and INVESTIGATE they might be able to follow thru with REAL isk sellers instead of those who are just rich.
Also no I have never lost isk to GM's, mainly because I'm always dirt broke but I have been accused of stuff by GM's and it wasn't until I gave proof of my innocence did they lift the ban....I guess in EVE you are guilty until proven innocent....kinda backwards if you ask me.
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:11:00 -
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Well, I did petition, but haven't heard back yet. I don't know anything about an escrow bug - I read something yesterday about it getting fixed.
I petitioned, supplied the name of the buyers, what the money went for, and everything. The problem really is that the money went into my wallet, and right back out as soon as the ships were sold. So I didn't have 1.9 billion for them to take away. Hence...I'm at -1.8 billion wallet balance.
I woul very much like to hear back from a GM. :(
-Shelix
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Darkstarr
Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Darkstarr on 25/07/2006 01:16:19
EDIT: for spelling
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
yeah they will... I remember them putting someone who gained some isk illegitmately with a -900mil wallet balance and he came on the forums to whine about it. I also know alot of people who have gone into - wallet balance when their ships have been reimbursed and CCP yanked the insurance.
When it comes to exploiters, I'm sure all rules/guidelines are out the window. The offender should be happy the account wasn't banned.
You mentioned the ship reimbursement... GMs are not allowed to place a player into negative balance for those types of issues. What the GM normally does is tell you he will reimburse your ship as soon as you have the isks to replace the insurance. Once you have the isks, you simply notify that GM and he takes the isks and places your ship into the station you was in during the last DT, unless you specify a different location... or something to that effect.
If a GM places you into negative balance, don't hesitate to contact him and work the problem.
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:20:00 -
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Well, I've contacted...this morning. Its about time for me to go to bed, and I haven't heard back yet. :(
There's a lot of money that flows into my wallet. Unfortunately, it flows right back out again; I'm just a hub; IE, corporate accountant and sales guy. I'm literally unable to work with our corporate wallet (or the money we keep stashed in our holding company) because I can't deal with ISK. *cry*
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
You are wrong, same goes for your 2nd reply aswell.
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
yeah they will... I remember them putting someone who gained some isk illegitmately with a -900mil wallet balance and he came on the forums to whine about it. I also know alot of people who have gone into - wallet balance when their ships have been reimbursed and CCP yanked the insurance.
They did, it was bittersweet to see M0o beg for handouts on the forums.
it was just Rev not m0o as a whole, and tbh for what he gave to the community with all his videos it was fair enough that he ask for a little help back from it, i belive he ended up well positive in a day or so and i think his negative balance was 1b or so, but that was back when 1b was alot.
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 02:00:00 -
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I don't think I'll resort to begging for money. I think I would rather just a GM respond to my petition and um...fix it.
If the 1.9 billion ISK was somehow "tainted," then they should reverse the transaction. IE, my ship supplier loses 1.9 billion ISK, and gets his two Charons back. Regardless, it wasn't my ISK to have in the first place...I'm not sure why its been taken away from me..into the freakin' negative almost 2 billion.
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Pardack
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
You mentioned the ship reimbursement... GMs are not allowed to place a player into negative balance for those types of issues. What the GM normally does is tell you he will reimburse your ship as soon as you have the isks to replace the insurance. Once you have the isks, you simply notify that GM and he takes the isks and places your ship into the station you was in during the last DT, unless you specify a different location... or something to that effect.
If a GM places you into negative balance, don't hesitate to contact him and work the problem.
Stop propagating myths. GMs WILL put your wallet into negative ISK. Read what others have wrote, the information comes from experience. It can and does happen.
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
I don't think I'll resort to begging for money. I think I would rather just a GM respond to my petition and um...fix it.
The current petiion queue may have you waiting a few weeks before a response  Unfortunately there's not much you can do to expedite it
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 02:46:00 -
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*cry* Weeks? *snip* Please do not beg on the forums. -Ivan K
Arg...CCP loses 5 cool points for this one.
-Shelix
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Zyper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zyper on 25/07/2006 02:53:43
Back when i had my ship replaced due to lag, i got a mail saying it could not be done before i had enough money to pay back the insurance money (because he woulden't have my wallet go into the negative). I just quickly borrowed some ISK (which i could pay back when i sold my new 2nd ship) and he then fixed it a few mins after.
But it just goes to show that they dont always screw you over :) And it was a VERY quick service too, almost instant response to the 3-4 emails.
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:28:00 -
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Arg...its been a day already without a response. And we're not talking about a ship, we're talking about a GM taking 1.9 billion out of my wallet...when I had 77 million in my wallet to begin with.
That 1.9 billion was payment for two Charon freighters, of which all but 50 million left my wallet and went to the ship builder. The GM debited my wallet by 1.9 billion ISK and returned it to the folks who paid for the ships...but they DID get the ships. I don't have that kind of cash laying around...I'm a corporate accountant, and most of the money that flows through my wallet is business, not personal funds.
I continue to be frustrated.
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Jacxx
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:35:00 -
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The problems I see with your story is:
Billions are being passed through your account for ship sales and you mentioned keeping a small amount, yet you only had 77 mil in your wallet?
You are a young character, no picture or anything. You also aren't part of a player corp, or atleast one isn't displayed. Why would you be trusted with billions of isk?
How did you really make 2 bil?
Mind giving us the names of the people who bought the freighters?
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:05:00 -
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Jacxx:
I'm three months old. :) As for having a picture, I presume that has something to do with your profile? I'm not a forum warrior. I presume the same holds true for the player corporation? If you look me up in game, you'd see that I'm the Chief Financial Officer for Rogue Trade Cartel. As such...billions DO go through my wallet. =)
Why do I get trusted with billions? Well...the folks in game who deal with me know who I am. Ever play EQ2? I was the richest player in the world, across all servers. I'm good at making money. Several of the people I know in game here I've known from other MMOs...which is actually how I came to be in Eve in the first place.
As for the folks involved...I've supplied the names in my petition, but why do you ask? Is there a point to validating my story in your eyes? My original question was if anyone had heard of anything like this before. Not whether the community at large believed me. I know the truth, I have provided the explanation and whatever proof I could garner for the GM petition...I'm just frustrated that I've gotten no response, and that 1. This happened in the first place, 2. My buy orders (several hundred million profit a day) are at a stand still because of a negative wallet and 3. That my corporation is at a...critical junction of activity of which my services are needed, and unable to be provided. My CEO is having to do my job for me.
Jacxx, even if I were to give you names, dates, exact details, what does that do for me? Can you make CCP fix this for me? If you can, I'll give you whatever you need. =)
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:12:00 -
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I don't know if they do it for insurance, but they've put people into negative isk before, most of the cases I've seen were for alt-podding a bounty
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Crucifier
The Collective
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:22:00 -
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That sucks man . CCP ftw eh.
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Croato
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:29:00 -
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So does this mean that buying/selling ISK for cash is supposedly "not allowed"? What about IGE and the crazy Chinese dudes who put up thousands of ebay auctions for ISK that all look the same? I think Sony was the only company that handled this issue correctly--create a fair, safe way for players to buy and sell content. Every other company seems to just be taking bribes so that IGE and mass Chinese sellers can get exclusive rights. The GM's need to stop trying to sting people and work on a better system.
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Mitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Croato
So does this mean that buying/selling ISK for cash is supposedly "not allowed"? What about IGE and the crazy Chinese dudes who put up thousands of ebay auctions for ISK that all look the same? I think Sony was the only company that handled this issue correctly--create a fair, safe way for players to buy and sell content. Every other company seems to just be taking bribes so that IGE and mass Chinese sellers can get exclusive rights. The GM's need to stop trying to sting people and work on a better system.
You need a severe beating. 
Anyway to the original poster, erm only reason I've ever known GM's to do this is when they find a scammer. Ie: GTC / Character sale scam.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Croato
So does this mean that buying/selling ISK for cash is supposedly "not allowed"? What about IGE and the crazy Chinese dudes who put up thousands of ebay auctions for ISK that all look the same? I think Sony was the only company that handled this issue correctly--create a fair, safe way for players to buy and sell content. Every other company seems to just be taking bribes so that IGE and mass Chinese sellers can get exclusive rights. The GM's need to stop trying to sting people and work on a better system.
Just a little headsup: SOE thus created an RL taxable online commodity.
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Shelix Anakasian
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Posted - 2006.07.25 05:51:00 -
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You need a severe beating.
Anyway to the original poster, erm only reason I've ever known GM's to do this is when they find a scammer. Ie: GTC / Character sale scam.
Well, I'm not a scammer. =p And from what I've read of CCP policy, they don't fix those situations anyway.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:01:00 -
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Cant auction stuffs that you dont have as an intermediary seller, can you? Sell order forum offense?
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:19:00 -
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Petition it under harassment. For things like this (which can totally trash your eve experience), they will not mind you skipping the queue. Put the Offender as the offending GM
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Heritor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Petition it under harassment. For things like this (which can totally trash your eve experience), they will not mind you skipping the queue. Put the Offender as the offending GM
Do as suggeted to get an response to your plight. 
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Sun Wu
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:26:00 -
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Let me get this straight, you're great at making money, you're a trader and billions go through you, you are also the CFO of your corp and yet you still have a whooping 77 million isk after 3 months in EVE?
And, 2 bill tbh is peanuts, perhaps you should stop whining and strap on the mining lasers, GMs do stuff for a reason...
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Helen Baque
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mitten
You need a severe beating.
Mitten 4TW. 
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Cymru2000
Lords of Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
You sir are wrong...
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and if you can't be bothered to read it all
Originally by: GM Arkanon
Users who buy ISK or other items from auction sites will receive a warning or a temporary ban, depending on the severity of the offense and the user's previous record. The ISK will be confiscated, even if that means we have to put the offender's wallet into a negative state. Severe or repeated offenses will be met with instant and permanent bans.
Whether or not this is what happened in this case is up to the GMs to decide, but if you think that you have been wronged i suggest going through the petition system and being nice, this post is just to sort out the mistruths of peoples previous posts  |
Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
Wrong, I had 290mill or something or other taken from my account leaving me on -39million lol.
luckily I got it back
Alliaanna
Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
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Novarei
Ninth Column
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:40:00 -
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Theres something you're not telling us :P
I'd like to help, but some of the things you've said dont make much sense.
Firstly with regards to you being a 'coporate accountant' or whtnot, why does this require you to have a positive balance? Surely most transaction can be handled through the corp wallet and those that arent can be handled through an alt.
Secondly you claim to have buy orders up for 'several hundreds of millions of profit a day' to generate 'several hundred million' per day from buy orders, you're going to have to have more than 77m in your wallet.
And if your buy orders have been chugging along generating this amount of profit per day then you have a ton of assets and your wallet will soon turn to positive, again if you have several hundred million income per day where is all that money? You're only a 3 month old char, you cant spend the money on expensive captial ships & hacs etc...
If I were a GM and you told me this story I would be extremely skeptical, but nevertheless investigate. You do sound mighty fishy though.
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Brock McF
Black Lance
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:04:00 -
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Hey there mate I know exactly what you are going through. I have had isk taken from me in this manner by the GM's. Apparently they can take isk if it has illicit ties. I dont agree one single bit with there methods, but I was able to get the 2.5b isk back.
My suggestion, petition in stuck section, they will get back to you asap. If you can clear your name of any wrong doings, yes it sounds horribly backwards, you will get your isk back.
Anyways I hope this helps.
Brock.
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Peter Armstrong
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
really? well they done that before a few times!
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Avon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 25/07/2006 08:12:58
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Ever play EQ2? I was the richest player in the world, across all servers. I'm good at making money. Several of the people I know in game here I've known from other MMOs...which is actually how I came to be in Eve in the first place.
The richest player in EQ2 made his fortune duping and selling furniture.
Got banned ... about 3 months ago iirc.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Gariuys
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:17:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 25/07/2006 08:12:58
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Ever play EQ2? I was the richest player in the world, across all servers. I'm good at making money. Several of the people I know in game here I've known from other MMOs...which is actually how I came to be in Eve in the first place.
The richest player in EQ2 made his fortune duping and selling furniture.
Got banned ... about 3 months ago iirc.
Lol sounds like his reputation is known to the EVE GMs as well then.
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Sensor Error
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:51:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 25/07/2006 08:12:58
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Ever play EQ2? I was the richest player in the world, across all servers. I'm good at making money. Several of the people I know in game here I've known from other MMOs...which is actually how I came to be in Eve in the first place.
The richest player in EQ2 made his fortune duping and selling furniture.
Got banned ... about 3 months ago iirc.
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Jacxx:
I'm three months old. :) As for having a picture, I presume that has something to do with your profile?
Hmmmmm....
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Caelian
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:58:00 -
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To be slightly offtopic, all the fuss about buying and selling ISK is laughable. Buying/selling ISK isn't okay, but buying gametime codes and selling them ingame for ISK is? Yea it sure is different.
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:22:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Darkstarr
Well first off.....
GMs are not allowed to take more isks than you have. They are not allowed to put any player into the negative balance.
Petition this and hope you get a different GM that will sort this out.
so wrong...don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about
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Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:28:00 -
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GM's won't put your wallet into negative IF it's because of something like an insurance voiding for getting a ship back. They will (or should) ask you how you want it dealt with in cases like that.
However, if they suspect an exploit, they will put your wallet into negative.
Just file a stuck petition, name the GM that did this, and have them escalate it asap. If you are sure of your innocence, that's the best way to get your money back.
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:30:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Sensor Error
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 25/07/2006 08:12:58
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Ever play EQ2? I was the richest player in the world, across all servers. I'm good at making money. Several of the people I know in game here I've known from other MMOs...which is actually how I came to be in Eve in the first place.
The richest player in EQ2 made his fortune duping and selling furniture.
Got banned ... about 3 months ago iirc.
Originally by: Shelix Anakasian
Jacxx:
I'm three months old. :) As for having a picture, I presume that has something to do with your profile?
Hmmmmm....
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:42:00 -
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I just REALLY, REALLY hope if ever someone buys something from me with illegal money (say for money laundering purposes) and the transaction has to be reversed, it gets reversed properly so I also get my ware back.
By the way, how does this intermediary ship selling work? You get a potential buyer to *trust* you with say 900m for a Charon, walk to your manufacturer, trade ship and money properly, then take the ship back to the buyer and just *give* it to him?
The two asterisked operations would be totally unsafe.
You must have Charisma 35 or something
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Drizit
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:17:00 -
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The same way people fall for scams. The only difference here is that he's not scamming which is lucky for those who are trusting him.
On the other side of the coin, he may be setting himself up to do a really big scam by increasing the good reputation of his character first.
A con artist has many faces, the one you normally see is the one you think you can trust.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:27:00 -
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Amog other things, I'm an intermediary ship seller. IE, I find customers for ship sellers, convince them to pay a bit more than the ship seller was going to ask, make a kick-back from the profit, and send the money on to the manufacturer. I save manufacturers from having to find customers, and doesn't really cost them anything at all.
This morning, A GM debited my account for 1.9 billion ISK, and refunded it to a couple of buyers. They got their two Charon freighters, and the supplier got 1.85 billion of that. I've petitioned...but my wallet is currently at -1.8 billion ISK. Given that I'm the Chief Financial Officer for my corporation, this presents some problems, namely in folks who want to buy shares. But I can't do missions either (can't afford collateral) and my plethora of buy orders...I don't even want to go there... :(
Last time I heard we shouldn't talk about GM actions.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chain Gang
Last time I heard we shouldn't talk about GM actions.
Depends who the moderator on duty is. Many threads have been allowed discussing GM actions (provided you don't directly quote their correspondence), but if a mod decides to lock one, he doesn't need an excuse. Moderator decisions can't even be discussed here, let alone disagreed with.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Wu
Let me get this straight, you're great at making money, you're a trader and billions go through you, you are also the CFO of your corp and yet you still have a whooping 77 million isk after 3 months in EVE?
and? so? I've been here for three years and made over 10 billion ISK, but I only have 22mill in my WALLET. I spend it, it goes in my corp wallet, it gets invested in shares, ores, ships ....
Wallet size is no proof of wealth.
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