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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:58:00 -
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With all the talk about Tier 3 battleships, people are saying "I want it to be THIS!" or "It will definitely be THIS!"
I've come up with some ideas of what I would like to see, but I want to know: You're the Gallente pilot, would YOU fly it?
Aegis-class battleship:
8 highslots 5 medslots 7 lowslots
8 turret hardpoints 0 missile hardpoints
7.5% bonus to large hybrid turret tracking per level 10% reduction in microwarpdrive capacitor use and maximum capacitor capacity per level
Enough grid and CPU to fit eight Neutron Blaster Cannon IIs without completely gimping the rest of the setup.
I see this as a good way to create the ultimate blaster-oriented battleship without eclipsing the Megathron in long-range fleet use. With BS5, not only would the MWD cap use be cut in half, but more importantly, the capacitor itself isn't gimped as badly, which would make MWDs truly useable for this battleship, which is vital for a good blaster ship. The extra turret hardpoint and ability to fit realistically fit neutrons give it an advantage with blasters, whereas the Megathron, which already seems able to effectively use 425mm rails, would still have the advantage in fleet combat because of its damage bonus.
So what do you think? Would you fly it? ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Tishlin Veredici
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:59:00 -
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Stems
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:03:00 -
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If that was put in game I'd completely freak out and do a happy dance

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Dethis
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:03:00 -
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Id hit it.
serioulsy this ship would give me wet dreams -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:04:00 -
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i want the celestis style BS, missle points, ew, etc ^_^
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:04:00 -
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So basicly a vindicator.The mega is already a good enough blaster ship.You don't need something more powerfull.
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Epsillon
Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:07:00 -
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So basically you want to create the be-all end-all of close range combat?
What about the AC Tempest? Torp Raven? Typhoon? Mega Pulse Geddon?
In a word, no. You would throw the balance of the game out of the window. Mega is already good enough with Blasters, Gallente needs a utility/ECM BS aside from the pseudo ECM Dominix setups, not more DPS.
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Gaius Sejanus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:10:00 -
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A 50% boost to maximum capacitor with BS5?
That seems...excessive.
5% to those would be better. 25% counteracts the max capacitory reduction from a MWD, and the 5% reduction in cap use along with the 5/level from High Speed Maneuvering would cut MWD cap use in half.
But you did forget:
"Role bonus: Inflicts quadruple damage to all ships that require Caldari Frigate skill to pilot"
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Rumbaar
Royal Society Of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:12:00 -
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What's the Drone bay size on the Gallente vessel? 
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:16:00 -
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Oh god, just noticed you created a second thread. No offense, but that is a crappy ship. Without a damage bonus, the Megathron does more damage with long and short configurations. Not only did you fail to give it any extra slots, but you gave it three bonuses which have very little to do with blasters.
Try this:
8/6/6 +10% blaster damage bonus 980m3 cargo
Theres your ultimate blaster ship.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Sejanus A 50% boost to maximum capacitor with BS5?
Holy crap. I left out a word, sorry.
The bonus reduces the max capacity penalty of MWDs. If you don't fit a MWD, it has no effect at all.
Originally by: Rumbaar What's the Drone bay size on the Gallente vessel? 
I suppose 125m^3 like the Mega, Geddon, and Typhoon. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Benglada
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:25:00 -
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fallofffff bonusss pleeeaaase......
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Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Without a damage bonus, the Megathron does more damage with long and short configurations.
Is that comparing 7 Ion IIs with the 25% damage bonus to 8 Neutron IIs? Because the complaint I've read over and over again is that the Megathron can't reasonably fit Neutrons, so I figure this ship should be able to fit 8 Neutrons as easily as the Mega fits 7 Ions.
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Not only did you fail to give it any extra slots
Megathron is 8/4/7, Aegis is 8/5/7, so that after a MWD, injector, web, and scram, it has one slot left to play with.
Originally by: DigitalCommunist but you gave it three bonuses which have very little to do with blasters.
I was under the impression that both tracking and MWDs were important for the one shortest-ranged weapon in EVE.
Originally by: DigitalCommunist +10% blaster damage bonus
It's been a damned long time since there were blaster/rail-specific bonuses.
Originally by: DigitalCommunist 980m3 cargo
Why's that? Room for injector charges? ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.07.25 04:58:00 -
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With 8 neutron blasters it does less damage as the Megathron with ions and uses more cap/sec. If you make these proposals, at least do the math before suggesting.
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cohkka With 8 neutron blasters it does less damage as the Megathron with ions and uses more cap/sec. If you make these proposals, at least do the math before suggesting.
What he said.
Getting in range should be difficult, but doing your job once you get there should not. You have this reversed. By giving a ship MWDing bonuses you're not making it a blaster ship, you're making it a MWDing ship.
To be fair you did give it an extra slot, I'm just too used to staring at the Vindicator fittings.. which is what this ship is. You made a Vindicator for the masses. And I can tell you that you still need billions in officer cap mods just to make a decent passive cap dual rep setup that doesn't suck. At that point you might as well just buy a Vindicator which probably still has more HP than a tier 3, does more damage, has way better agility and uses less cap :p
Honestly, people don't get it. If its gonna be a blaster ship, make it a blaster ship. It doesn't have to be good at anything except tearing crap apart at point blank. I don't want speed, I don't want range, I don't want efficient mwds, I don't want ecm bonuses, I don't want falloff.
I want to make people soil their pants.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 06:11:00 -
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So what WOULD you want?
8 high slots, 8 turrets, enough grid for 8 Neutron IIs, 5% to hybrid damage and 5% to hyrbid RoF?
Something about that seems doubtful  ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:20:00 -
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Another Megathron... 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Another Megathron... 
I prefer sensor dampening and dmg bonuses.
Since when do you fly Gallente? ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Pah Triac
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Pah Triac on 25/07/2006 08:24:32
Sorry was listening to "dancing Queen" wile watching my wife move her body "get all exited"
will no do it again :P
btw can u reveal some stat's before ppl having explotions in their panties this waiting is just too much
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Please please please please please can give us some details on the minny and gallente tier3 bs?
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:24:00 -
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God damn you Tux, I saw the gold bars and thought a Dev had come along to post something constructive. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari God damn you Tux, I saw the gold bars and thought a Dev had come along to post something constructive.
Ditto :(
Bring back the forum spamming constructive Tuxford!
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Tuxford

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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:27:00 -
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Sorry guys, I've had a blog ready for quite some time about the tier 3 battleship. Just forgot to send it to Kieron. It has pretty much the first versions of the ships. I can tell you guys the names now.
Amarr - Abaddon Caldari - Rokh Gallente - Hyperion Minmatar - Maelstrom _______________ |
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 25/07/2006 08:30:38
Originally by: Tuxford Sorry guys, I've had a blog ready for quite some time about the tier 3 battleship. Just forgot to send it to Kieron. It has pretty much the first versions of the ships. I can tell you guys the names now.
Amarr - Abaddon Caldari - Rokh Gallente - Hyperion Minmatar - Maelstrom
\o/ <3
Shame the minny one isn't called the Tornado tho :P
Edit: Now hurry up and send it to Keiron!!!!
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Pah Triac
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 -
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"Maelstrom" i think someone has played too much WoW
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Glyn Davish
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 -
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Hyperion?
Jawesome.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford Sorry guys, I've had a blog ready for quite some time about the tier 3 battleship. Just forgot to send it to Kieron. It has pretty much the first versions of the ships. I can tell you guys the names now.
Amarr - Abaddon Caldari - Rokh Gallente - Hyperion Minmatar - Maelstrom
*hugs Tuxford*
Different spelling, RIGHT NAME! HOORAY!!! ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:38:00 -
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BTW, those who are wondering:
Hyperion is a Titan from Greek mythology. Linkage
Rokh is an oversized Dodo
Maelstrom is a ******* great whirlpool
Abaddon means "Destruction" or "The Destroyer" depending on the context it's used. Linkage for more on this colourful character.
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:39:00 -
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Hyperion?...
OMFG IT WAS INSPIRED BY BABYLON 5
I WANT TO SEX ASGEIR EVEN HARDER NOW
But is it so much to ask to make it a dampener boat? Please...  --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Rokh is an oversized Dodo
You mean the one destroying the ship? ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here!
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