| Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Rakull
   |
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:08:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way.
Quote:
We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say.
i'm rarely post on this lame official forums but couple of things amuse me every time i read the posts like quoted above.
1. Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? We also sleep at euro timezone and go to work same time as your euro corps(hello E.R.A.). So calling lame to take fights in suitable time -that is lame indeed.
2. Taking station while americans asleep. O.M.G. What about sweeping Cache while russians asleep? What about taking G-j6 while russians asleep? Camping n-rael while we asleep? Finally what about set up blokade in 8-w while russians asleep? Getting my point? This is game. Everyone plays this game wherever he/she wants. This is not a sceduled job to be logged on in definite time or your boss will fire you. Wthat makes you think that we must to log in in time when you play? We taking fun from you this way?Live with it or go play gameboy arcade-this you can turn on anytime. So stop blaming RA using timezone advantages. Because this is really lame-not the way we fight.
P.S. Sorry for my grammar
|
Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:12:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 09:15:17
@ Minevra:
*sigh*
I explained it above already, but i'll try to make it more simple.
1. Main gang sits at 8-W.
2. Decision is made to move to F2A.
3. Main gang moves down to F2A.
4. RA comes in, pops unguarded bubbles, moves further towards F2A.
5. People of different timezones begin to log in at 8-W, because they were previously part of the camp in 8-W and when they had to go sleep had safe-spotted and logged off in the system.
6. People realize they are cut off and ask for help.
7. Main camp moves to ZO-.
8. RA waits on the other side of the gate for reinforcements of theirs to arrive. (Another mistake of us here, we should've jumped on you ASAP. -.-)
9. Meanwhile the stragglers from 8-W have moved to MJ- and save-spotted, waiting for orders.
10. RA forces jump in on main gang, consisting mainly of frigates and cruisers and 16 battleships, battle begins.
11. After initial flurry of confusion and activity the stragglers in M-J warp to the ZO- gate and jump over to join the battle, which already has cost the main camp several ships. As far as i know they didn't even have instas. Additionally the RA forces were at that point set up for sniping range on the gate.
|
Gor Manufacturer
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:15:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Minevra
You were waiting for us, your BS's were in optimal firinig positions, your support ships were on insta, number of BS and support ships were almost equal - so where was we having advantage? Oh yes the people from 8-w? When the battle began there were few coalition ships in 8-w? The other were log offed? Login trap? 
If your forces "were not combined" - it's a quastion to the guys who commanded your fleet. 
Signed. You stay on position what you selected, not RA gang
Director R.N
|
Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:18:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Rakull
Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition?
Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^
|
Rakull
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:33:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Xenofur
Originally by: Rakull
Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition?
Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^
Using modern communication methods like mobile phones, ICQ, email and such helps a lot. Someone wakes up early to covert to find out what's going on in system, waked up the ones he could contact, they waked up the rest. Simple huh? And than happy RA euro pilots went to their RL jobs :)
|
Luna Negra
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:35:00 -
[126]
I never post on the forums but:
1. RA is the most boring enemy you can imagine in the GAME!
2. RA is the most funniest enemy on the FORUMS
Period.
Current game mechanics make the experience really booring if the enemy want it to bee so. I wonder when people get tired and close accounts and CCP loose money... Changes need to be made to the POS war! Even if they are minor they still are changes...
Gravity you win again! |
Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:41:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Xenofur
Originally by: Rakull
Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition?
Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^
We using several exploits, like alarm clock to wake up 4.00 AM, and someone use cofiie exploit, and not slepping at all. |
Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:45:00 -
[128]
So you set your alarm clocks to times when the americans begin to go to bed and the central europeans are already fast asleep? What i thought, thanks for the confirmation. :)
|
Kian Jorry
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 09:58:00 -
[129]
enough of this i would think.
we blob, ra use guerilla tactics. so what, who cares?
if we want to keep playing this game, we have to adapt. or suck roids in jita.
seems obvious. pointless way this thread has gone.
|
Gor Manufacturer
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 10:01:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 26/07/2006 10:01:41
Originally by: Kian Jorry
we blob, ra use guerilla tactics. so what, who cares?
if we want to keep playing this game, we have to adapt. or suck roids in jita.
Well said.
Director R.N
|
exploer
Caldari
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 10:02:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Luna Negra
I never post on the forums but:
1. RA is the most boring enemy you can imagine in the GAME!
2. RA is the most funniest enemy on the FORUMS
Period.
Current game mechanics make the experience really booring if the enemy want it to bee so. I wonder when people get tired and close accounts and CCP loose money... Changes need to be made to the POS war! Even if they are minor they still are changes...
I had never write here, but coalition's cry beat me completely.
1: LOLKA Volterski is mostest boresome enemie with 5:1 tactics.
2: LV you cant consider your defeat even after seeing our frapses. your runaround words sounds like 'login trap!1!!1!!', 'exploit!!!!11', 'cheats!!!!11', 'timezone!!!!11', solar storm!!!111, marsquake!!!111, flight of a comet!!11 etc
Guys from coalition you should join new alliance named Xetic t2
|
Raxxar
Friends Corp
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 10:04:00 -
[132]
I have been flying a bit in US prime time in that region(NY time was 7 pm I guess), haven't seen any enemies, only strong GF camp in N-RAEL. Or maybe you guys working too much in rl and leave offices at 9 pm?
|
King Dave
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 11:41:00 -
[133]
quote=Daroh]Edited by: Daroh on 25/07/2006 17:15:17
we think that lame tactics is blobing.
i dont get why this blobbing tactic is thought of as bad? It just means we ahve alot more people wanting to be on our side, and be on our side and fight? If your scared of blobs, why dont u recruit some more people. Ofc u ahve tried ghost before, but u didn't treat them so well, so they joined us.
stop whining...
-------------------------------
don't speak english...
f1, f2, alt-q!
|
Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 12:05:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Rakull
Originally by: Xenofur
Originally by: Rakull
Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition?
Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^
Using modern communication methods like mobile phones, ICQ, email and such helps a lot. Someone wakes up early to covert to find out what's going on in system, waked up the ones he could contact, they waked up the rest. Simple huh? And than happy RA euro pilots went to their RL jobs :)
So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job 
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
|
Burlock Ironfist
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 12:34:00 -
[135]
The fourms are the only fun thing about fighting RA....
"opinions our my own thank you very much" |
Rakull
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 12:54:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Rakull on 26/07/2006 12:57:09
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job
You missing the point m8. The question was asked how we managed to gather such fleet that early. I think i answered creary to that question. And this has nothing to do with RL issues. Our pilots saw opportutity that very morning, so they tried to get as many dedicated pilots online as possible. This is purely about dedication to the common goal. If you ever understand what this words mean. Than you might start to understand how RA holds and keeps fighting. Yes this is game, yes i usually sleep at this time. But if anyone from my comrades would call my mobile and said that there is opportunity for RA to break the blocade right that morning at 4 AM-i'd be there no questions asked. WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference.
---
Two beer or not two beer? That is the question :) |
Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 13:01:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Pastora on 26/07/2006 13:02:55
Originally by: King Dave
i dont get why this blobbing tactic is thought of as bad? It just means we ahve alot more people wanting to be on our side, and be on our side and fight? If your scared of blobs, why dont u recruit some more people. Ofc u ahve tried ghost before, but u didn't treat them so well, so they joined us.
It just means that you have more people, who are looking for easy gaming. I don't blame'em for that, though. Everyone likes, what he likes. Blob and chat >> a lot of fun for you I guess.
And stop with this nonsense about recruiting people. :) What about GHOST? GHOST were weak. Want some proof? Look at their alliance now. As it turned our, it was a big plus for us, we didn't keep them in blue. I know, now the "ough-so-rightful-and-betrayed-Lord-Wimbishi" will come here and will start to call us stupid names, but let him be. They came for easy ride, they were disappointed. They have destroyed themselves. And you have helped them in that, as much as we did. :) Though, some of them were good enough and joined stronger alliances in your coalition.
And to be honest, it is not as easy for us to recruit people as for you. Our main chat and TS has always been, is and probably will be in Russian. This is a simple fact, because many our pilots are not that good in English. Perhaps they can manage to understand something, but for some it is 100% impossible to express themselves in English. We have tried, we know. If you have tried and succeeded, kudos to you! It was easier for some our foreign friends to form their own alliances after all. It is just that much you can keep with Russian in alliance chat, in gang chat, in alliance mails, in TS, on forums, and so on... Then most get tired of it, if they don't understand it.
Originally by: King Dave
stop whining...
That's your members who are whining most. 
_______________________________________________
If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Xaarist
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 13:03:00 -
[138]
correction:
i had to correct it in another thread, now that we have this lie in here three times, i will correct again:
CHIMP took C-J on a weekend, starting at 9 o'clock EVE time. russians should have easily been awake at this time according to your statements earlier. we did not take it a US timezones, since CHIMP at that time was basically european only.
the fact you couldn't do anything against it was due to being locked out of the system completely.
----------------
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination.
...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD... |
Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 13:13:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Pastora on 26/07/2006 13:17:38
Originally by: Xaarist
CHIMP took C-J on a weekend, starting at 9 o'clock EVE time. russians should have easily been awake at this time according to your statements earlier. we did not take it a US timezones, since CHIMP at that time was basically european only.
An offtopic comment from me:
Quite often on weekends we are drunk, and in hangover at 9 o'clock at the morning. Did you forget about that? :)
As for your message: What was the date? I honestly, can't remember, as I have not even been there then. You have been planning that, and we back then still had quite a few station left to defend. We couldn't be everywhere at the same time >> that's small whining, please feel free to insult me now.
Edit: Damn typos!
_______________________________________________
If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Xaarist
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 13:27:00 -
[140]
why should i insult you for that? the only reason i could imagine would be that you're going to like it. if it's a fetish of yours, we can discuss that in evemails.
i can not remember the date tbh, and i fully understand the effects of a hangover on the will to play computer games.
----------------
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination.
...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD... |
fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 13:40:00 -
[141]
Tbh, the red's complained and moaned when they were gettin spanked in fleet battle's, losin there stations and getting there dreads popped, now the coalition is getting some. It's gone full circle and if the coalition can adapt with the red's, you'll see them gettin a bloody nose and coming on and whining again and it will continue.
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |
Minevra
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 17:02:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Burlock Ironfist
The fourms are the only fun thing about fighting RA....
Russians use to say "If you don't want to do something you search for exuses not to do it". Don't serch for excuses - war is hell. And RA is a Devil in hell  .
|
Rakull
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 17:23:00 -
[143]
Just as a side note.
Why do we have to treat eash other like this?
Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this:
Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you? 
Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal?
Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head?
I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring.
We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment
---
Two beer or not two beer? That is the question :) |
Abye
Caldari
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 18:21:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Rakull
Just as a side note.
Why do we have to treat eash other like this?
Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this:
Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you?
Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal?
Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head?
I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring.
We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment
You listed where the playing session itself was fun. I log into eve and hope this damn POS-War is finally over so i can have fun with my corpmates, instead i sit at a gatecamp for 5 hours (RA won't show up during primetime anyway) with no action.
The point is, FIGHTING RA IS INSANELY BORING NOT FUN.
|
c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 18:47:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Rakull
Just as a side note.
Why do we have to treat eash other like this?
Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this:
Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you?
Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal?
Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head?
I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring.
We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment
I can answer that quite easily:
If you'd enjoy for example a game of monopoly with your friends, the game is over when one has all streets, because the chance to hop indefinately between the streets he owns and don't have to pay the fee is 0. when you had only 1 row of streets left (cache in the case of eve) we offered you a ceasefire and would you let keep cache and the complexes there. But the offer got rejected arrogantly. So we took cache as well and had every street. The only thing keeping you alive is the fact that -in opposite of Monopoly- you can choose the spots you land on with your play figure (i.e. you can choose the reinforcement time to your needs) Since we cover 18h/day (at the weekend even more but you put 2 days of stron in it before weekend), every static reinforcement time would've result in your defeat already.
Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat. But CCP just has 1 imbalance in the game mechanics which keeps you alive and did the same for you vs The5.
I played vs Stain Empire in Omist and it was a hard and tough fight, but they didn't want to hang on a boring gameplay, packed their things and moved on after a while since the only chance would've been to go your way, the POS way.
So I ask you: When you play monopoly with your friends and you do not have anything anymore and the only thing you can do is to hop from safespot to safespot, would you have harrassed your friends with doing that for days just to bore them to death and they finally give up due to it?
I do not blame anyone on your side for not trying to do it that way but you shouldn't wonder then that the whole coalition doesn't take it as a game anymore because there's no fun involved. The ones to blame are only CCP for making such a weak rule for one of the most important parts of the game mechanics.
But Kudos to your side note. Well observed. I do not see you as hateful enemies. In the end it's a game. But the only thing what makes me some sort of disappointed and bored is the fact that the fun fighting you is long gone. Boring work has taken it's place instead.
Regards
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
-V- Diplomat
Life's a waste of time ...
|
Xenofur
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 18:50:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Rakull
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job
You missing the point m8. The question was asked how we managed to gather such fleet that early. I think i answered creary to that question. And this has nothing to do with RL issues. Our pilots saw opportutity that very morning, so they tried to get as many dedicated pilots online as possible. This is purely about dedication to the common goal. If you ever understand what this words mean. Than you might start to understand how RA holds and keeps fighting. Yes this is game, yes i usually sleep at this time. But if anyone from my comrades would call my mobile and said that there is opportunity for RA to break the blocade right that morning at 4 AM-i'd be there no questions asked. WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference.
I have to agree. I did not ask in order to put RA down. I was honestly curious where those people came from, when others say that RA people follow normal sleep patterns as well.
One point that could be made is the following: RA does not simply enjoy an inherent advantage due to timezones. They do work and use effort in order to gain advantages. To put them down because of this and accuse them of things that are wrong in this context seems to me like being envious because of their strength.
Originally by: Rakull
Just as a side note.
Why do we have to treat eash other like this?
Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this:
Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you?
Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal?
Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head?
I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring.
We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment
I would like to see you as an equal opponent. Sadly i can only look at you in two ways.
1. The people who have so far managed to destroy 1/5 of the property of my corp, which is a relatively weak corp of miners.
2. People who, despite their strengths, allow persons in their ranks that actively abuse tools given by the developers in order to make unintended use of them.
I will list only one undisputable example: One member of our gang received a gang invite from one of your people while he was typing in chat, when he hit enter to send his message that request was accepted and he was warped to one of your POSes before he had even realized what had happened. Spoken in Monopoly terms this is similar to one who kicks the table while your dice are rolling to force a result that is more favourable to him.
I think you see why it is difficult to see people who allow their own to use such methods, as equal opponents.
If you are truly intent on changing this, how about giving us a contact in your ranks who we can report such occurances to so you deal with them?
|
Kha1n
Caldari
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 20:27:00 -
[147]
I read some last forumÆs posts and ingame local talks and become anxious with some Coalition members mental facultiesà seems like they are 10-13 yo childs
Explanation:
KidÆs u will never get such insta easy wins and fun, as logging in game -> insta getting RA lessnumbered gang as targets and without weaponary -> easy target shooting -> winning without losses -> getting quick fun
Why not?
BECAUSE THIS SERVICE IS NOT INCLUDING IN GAME PAYMENT!
KidÆs calm down and stop crying, if u donÆt like RAÆs tactics - go and play in World of Worcraftà maybe there uÆll be heroes! Or better play singleplayer games - NPC will not make u cryingà but in ur case they probably will..
P.S.
1. It is not a RAÆs fault that u hurt by ur coevals
2. It is not a RAÆs fault that u are an unlucky fellow
3. It is not a RAÆs fault that u donÆt have a girlfriend
4. It is not a RAÆs fault that ur wage is low
5. It is not a RAÆs fault that u canÆt do complex with 20 friendly BSÆs then 4 RAÆs BSÆs disturb u
6. It is not a RAÆs fault that u loose in eqaual gang fights
7. It is not a RAÆs fault that CCP invented POSs
8. It is not a RAÆs fault that there are different Time Zones
9. It is not a RAÆs fault that u donÆt know how to use Alarm Clock
|
Fargas
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 20:29:00 -
[148]
Originally by: c0rn1
skipped
Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat.
skipped
Right dude, you got numbers, thus we MUST surrender. Becouse its not fair, becouse its not fun for you.
You have made boredom simulator of this game for yourself. And thats your problem.
klik, ....
davno pora |
c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 21:02:00 -
[149]
Edited by: c0rn1 on 26/07/2006 21:04:44
Originally by: Fargas
Originally by: c0rn1
skipped
Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat.
skipped
Right dude, you got numbers, thus we MUST surrender. Becouse its not fair, becouse its not fun for you.
You have made boredom simulator of this game for yourself. And thats your problem.
are you a journalist or propagande expert? because they usually rip one sentence out of the context and base their analysis (propagande/opinion) on that.
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
-V- Diplomat
Life's a waste of time ...
|
Nebuli
Caldari
|
Posted - 2006.07.26 21:28:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Nebuli on 26/07/2006 21:30:41
Wtfs going on with this forum?!? doesnt post, then it posts a blank answer, then it deletes your answer, messed up CCP fix it already, anyway....
So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers?
Also we blob all the time, yet when the war began we were heavily outnumbered by RED, I mean wtf?
CEO - Art of War |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7 8 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |