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Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 07:55:00 - [1] Another good day to Red Alliance. Today RA fleet run through Coalition blocade forces which camping f2a system. Blocade was wiped out and station was captured by RA. Respect to both sides for this battle (in Z0-), it was very hot, but we were more lucky. :) PS. 2 Qui Chen. You were very unlucky when try to finish my ship.. I warp out on 120 sturcture hp. CEO.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 07:55:00 - [2] Another good day to Red Alliance. Today RA fleet run through Coalition blocade forces which camping f2a system. Blocade was wiped out and station was captured by RA. Respect to both sides for this battle (in Z0-), it was very hot, but we were more lucky. :) PS. 2 Qui Chen. You were very unlucky when try to finish my ship.. I warp out on 120 sturcture hp. CEO.
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:09:00 - [3] Edited by: Mr Happ on 25/07/2006 08:25:28 Damn Stupid Website
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:09:00 - [4] With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:09:00 - [5] Edited by: Mr Happ on 25/07/2006 08:25:28 Damn Stupid Website
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:09:00 - [6] With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:10:00 - [7] Edited by: LTD THOR on 25/07/2006 08:15:15 hehe, dunno rly if he reads the eve-o¦s. but yeah, he was a lil bit sad about the several ships wich are able to escape in structure like yours. we should bring enough numbers in BS¦s next time. rly very nice fight m8s! you won. but i miss 1 or 2 losses of yours.. hehe.. cu inspace. greetings LTD. *edit: and dont take this now as personal affront pls, mr.happ is right, duoble post or not. My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:10:00 - [8] Edited by: LTD THOR on 25/07/2006 08:15:15 hehe, dunno rly if he reads the eve-o¦s. but yeah, he was a lil bit sad about the several ships wich are able to escape in structure like yours. we should bring enough numbers in BS¦s next time. rly very nice fight m8s! you won. but i miss 1 or 2 losses of yours.. hehe.. cu inspace. greetings LTD. *edit: and dont take this now as personal affront pls, mr.happ is right, duoble post or not. My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
balrog The Collective	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:15:00 - [9] Quote: Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle Speak for yourself RA FTW
balrog The Collective	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:15:00 - [10] Quote: Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle Speak for yourself RA FTW
The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey No actually we do you see this is the only thing they have left. Every little victory for them requires a new forum post to prove to themselves they are not delusional into thinking they have won this war.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey If someone will not convert inform topics to smackfest, it will be only one topic. Unfortunatly some Coalition member smacking too much. CEO.
The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey No actually we do you see this is the only thing they have left. Every little victory for them requires a new forum post to prove to themselves they are not delusional into thinking they have won this war.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey If someone will not convert inform topics to smackfest, it will be only one topic. Unfortunatly some Coalition member smacking too much. CEO.
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:24:00 - [15] well, i find it pretty interesting if stations are taken - and think that there shiould b more posts whats goin on int he eve universe. but when u make such a topic, give us some more infos tho plz, like numbers etc. :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:24:00 - [16] well, i find it pretty interesting if stations are taken - and think that there shiould b more posts whats goin on int he eve universe. but when u make such a topic, give us some more infos tho plz, like numbers etc. :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:26:00 - [17] Originally by: The Ratfink Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey No actually we do you see this is the only thing they have left. Every little victory for them requires a new forum post to prove to themselves they are not delusional into thinking they have won this war. You call a little victory when group of 50 ppl (RA) captures station protected by 7+ Alliances with 25+ hostile capital ships docked inside it?
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:26:00 - [18] Originally by: The Ratfink Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey No actually we do you see this is the only thing they have left. Every little victory for them requires a new forum post to prove to themselves they are not delusional into thinking they have won this war. You call a little victory when group of 50 ppl (RA) captures station protected by 7+ Alliances with 25+ hostile capital ships docked inside it?
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:31:00 - [19] it was a normal fleetfight without exact same numbers, shiptypes and so on.. nothin important. a nice fight wich RA won. not more. let this thread die in honours. the war goes on, or? My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:31:00 - [20] it was a normal fleetfight without exact same numbers, shiptypes and so on.. nothin important. a nice fight wich RA won. not more. let this thread die in honours. the war goes on, or? My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 - [21] Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:32:00 - [22] Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:34:00 - [23] Originally by: nync You call a little victory when group of 50 ppl (RA) captures station protected by 7+ Alliances with 25+ hostile capital ships docked inside it? lol? let this thread die! only senseless flames will be commin up here!! pls! My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:34:00 - [24] Originally by: nync You call a little victory when group of 50 ppl (RA) captures station protected by 7+ Alliances with 25+ hostile capital ships docked inside it? lol? let this thread die! only senseless flames will be commin up here!! pls! My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists well, i find it pretty interesting if stations are taken - and think that there shiould b more posts whats goin on int he eve universe. but when u make such a topic, give us some more infos tho plz, like numbers etc. :P During last week, coalition forces blocade system f2a 24/7 (10+ mobils, ~40-80 ships). In this morning RA gang ~40 ships jump into blocaded system and clear bubbles, after that we take a good fleet fight ~40 vs 40 on next gate with coalition gang and almost destory it. (22 BSH + all support was killed). Remaining enemy ships retreat to station, and our dreads finish this ops. CEO.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 08:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists well, i find it pretty interesting if stations are taken - and think that there shiould b more posts whats goin on int he eve universe. but when u make such a topic, give us some more infos tho plz, like numbers etc. :P During last week, coalition forces blocade system f2a 24/7 (10+ mobils, ~40-80 ships). In this morning RA gang ~40 ships jump into blocaded system and clear bubbles, after that we take a good fleet fight ~40 vs 40 on next gate with coalition gang and almost destory it. (22 BSH + all support was killed). Remaining enemy ships retreat to station, and our dreads finish this ops. CEO.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Sarmaul Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. They currently have a second - until sov switches back in a few days. Large POS spam FTL. Max
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Sarmaul Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. They currently have a second - until sov switches back in a few days. Large POS spam FTL. Max
Darko1107 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:08:00 - [29] I love these RA posts personally, keep it up guys! ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Darko1107 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:08:00 - [30] I love these RA posts personally, keep it up guys! ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Gor Manufacturer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:27:00 - [31] We did it. No comments. Director R.N
Gor Manufacturer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:27:00 - [32] We did it. No comments. Director R.N
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Max Teranous Large POS spam FTL. Let me guess, next thing you will be saying is "Capturing stations FTL". _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:37:00 - [34] Originally by: Max Teranous Large POS spam FTL. Let me guess, next thing you will be saying is "Capturing stations FTL". _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:49:00 - [35] Not really a comment aimed at RA TBH - the sov rules require massive POS spammage. In a system with 60 odd moons (not in-game, can't remember exact count) the D.E.D. mails are already getting truncated due to the dozens of POS from both sides. The haulage required just doesn't make an interesting game IMO. Max
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:49:00 - [36] Not really a comment aimed at RA TBH - the sov rules require massive POS spammage. In a system with 60 odd moons (not in-game, can't remember exact count) the D.E.D. mails are already getting truncated due to the dozens of POS from both sides. The haulage required just doesn't make an interesting game IMO. Max
Aaron Static Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey With all due respect sir Im sure everyone is very happy that you have a keyboard, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you THINK you have something cool to say mmkay
Aaron Static Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey With all due respect sir Im sure everyone is very happy that you have a keyboard, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you THINK you have something cool to say mmkay
munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:55:00 - [39] Originally by: Max Teranous Not really a comment aimed at RA TBH - the sov rules require massive POS spammage. In a system with 60 odd moons (not in-game, can't remember exact count) the D.E.D. mails are already getting truncated due to the dozens of POS from both sides. The haulage required just doesn't make an interesting game IMO. this is getting a little sad now tbh, no other allies whine about pos's quite as much as the southern coalition. RA are very logistically strong and well organised, get over it. --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.
munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Max Teranous Not really a comment aimed at RA TBH - the sov rules require massive POS spammage. In a system with 60 odd moons (not in-game, can't remember exact count) the D.E.D. mails are already getting truncated due to the dozens of POS from both sides. The haulage required just doesn't make an interesting game IMO. this is getting a little sad now tbh, no other allies whine about pos's quite as much as the southern coalition. RA are very logistically strong and well organised, get over it. --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:57:00 - [41] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Sarmaul Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. They currently have a second - until sov switches back in a few days. Large POS spam FTL. Another from me today. there are about 60 moons in F2A, with 30 Coalition small offlined POS'es, 10 medium offlined POS'es and 13 large onlined towers with no equipment on them and 10 large fully equipped RA battle POS'es and you are calling us POS spammers???
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 09:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Sarmaul Can't login - how many stations do RA have now? I know they were holding onto one but haven't really kept up with the events proceeding it. They currently have a second - until sov switches back in a few days. Large POS spam FTL. Another from me today. there are about 60 moons in F2A, with 30 Coalition small offlined POS'es, 10 medium offlined POS'es and 13 large onlined towers with no equipment on them and 10 large fully equipped RA battle POS'es and you are calling us POS spammers???
Max Teranous Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:04:00 - [43] Edited by: Max Teranous on 25/07/2006 10:06:11 Originally by: munchy this is getting a little sad now tbh, no other allies whine about pos's quite as much as the southern coalition. RA are very logistically strong and well organised, get over it. Agreed, they are. I've said so several times. It doesn't make the entire mass POS spammage thing any more interesting or fun. I always have a chuckle to myself whenever I read most of the other station taking threads on this forum - "Huzzah has put both POS into reinforced" for an example. Both? 20 is a little trickier. Originally by: nync Another from me today. there are about 60 moons in F2A, with 30 Coalition small offlined POS'es, 10 medium offlined POS'es and 13 large onlined towers with no equipment on them and 10 large fully equipped RA battle POS'es and you are calling us POS spammers??? Please read my second post - I qualified my statement there. Max
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:31:00 - [44] Originally by: nync Another from me today. there are about 60 moons in F2A, with 30 Coalition small offlined POS'es, 10 medium offlined POS'es and 13 large onlined towers with no equipment on them and 10 large fully equipped RA battle POS'es and you are calling us POS spammers??? why do you think that is? yes that's right, to prevent RA from gettking sov by putting up more towers then the coalition... call it 'pre-emptive' spammage
The Judge Tachyon Combined Technologies Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:46:00 - [45] Shame that the system is attacked when all the europeans are asleep.
Gor Manufacturer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 10:58:00 - [46] Originally by: Uther Doull call it 'pre-emptive' spammage Is it your so called pure game? Shame on you! Director R.N
Milkminer Independent Frontiers	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:00:00 - [47] I think Red are just trying to show everyone they arnt dead. Also that the zerg of alliances/resources thats up against them cant finish them off. TBH, I find threads like this abit lacking when the details arnt provided, but its also nice to know that Red arnt just holding in but also have a fully fledged propoganda machine Anyway, good on ya Red, glad to see uve not folded yet :) Originally by: John Moscroft Goons are a renewable resource. There are no recruitment problems.
She Storm	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:08:00 - [48] Quote: During last week, coalition forces blocade system f2a 24/7 (10+ mobils, ~40-80 ships). In this morning RA gang ~40 ships jump into blocaded system and clear bubbles, after that we take a good fleet fight ~40 vs 40 on next gate with coalition gang and almost destory it. (22 BSH + all support was killed). Remaining enemy ships retreat to station, and our dreads finish this ops. Lets clarify things a little here, RA ships DID NOT "jump into blockaded system" They jumped into a system that HAD BEEN blockaded, but the blockade had moved on earlier, leaving a few bubbles because we did not have the proper corp ppl there to unanchor and collect them. So do not make it sound like you broke the blockade as there was noone there but a few left over bubbles. As for the fleet fight , yes it was a VERY GOOD FIGHT, RA had about 40 ships, about 35 or so were T2 BS, we had about the same number 16 of which were BS the rest were support cruisers and frigates. you did not kill all support as you state because 18 to 20 of us retreated and formed up in f2a to repair, and figure a strategy. RA you waited a long time for that camp to move on, and when you came in you put up a great fight, and were much better equipped then we were at that time, why do you have to ruin your excellent tactics by overexaggerating your posts?
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:10:00 - [49] Originally by: Gor Manufacturer Originally by: Uther Doull call it 'pre-emptive' spammage Is it your so called pure game? Shame on you! nope, it's doing what you must to prevent your enemy from winning, something ra knows a lot about
She Storm	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:13:00 - [50] Quote: You call a little victory when group of 50 ppl (RA) captures station protected by 7+ Alliances with 25+ hostile capital ships docked inside it?
Another Night Solar Dragon's Nest	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:27:00 - [51] Good Job RA!!!
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:52:00 - [52] Originally by: She Storm 40 ships, about 35 or so were T2 BS, we had about the same number 16 of which were BS the rest were support cruisers and frigates. Yeah.. also I heard when our 12 ships move in 8-w, someone yell in f2a local that RA fleet with 100 ships incoming. :) Check kb for this battle results (unfortunatly we loss 1-2 BS more in fight. Don't know who not post it). PS. And waiting for fraps. CEO.
The Judge Tachyon Combined Technologies Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 11:55:00 - [53] If you'd of killed the camp that was there during euro time then i'd of been impressed, but this is nothing worth bragging about.
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:02:00 - [54] lol, this is funny ---------------
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:08:00 - [55] Originally by: The Judge If you'd of killed the camp that was there during euro time then i'd of been impressed, but this is nothing worth bragging about. Fights in even numbers is lame tactics now.. now we must fight only when you have 2:1 or 3:1 advantage. CEO.
Ivan Stang	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:15:00 - [56] Originally by: The Judge Shame that the system is attacked when all the europeans are asleep. Shame that CJ-6 was attacked by the Coalition when all the Russians were asleep.
RCI DeXTeR REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:16:00 - [57] Originally by: The Judge If you'd of killed the camp that was there during euro time... ... we are cheaters and users of exploits
Shadoo The Taining corp	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:20:00 - [58] Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: The Judge If you'd of killed the camp that was there during euro time then i'd of been impressed, but this is nothing worth bragging about. Fights in even numbers is lame tactics now.. now we must fight only when you have 2:1 or 3:1 advantage. I think you missed his point Papa -- as I read it, he's wondering about the need to post a thread about winning a 40vs40 fight. However, I think you played this well. You waited 6 days to make your move, and in the end bored out forces and moved in when numbers were low and boredom was high. Well played. Next few days will be interesting as tables turn in the pos war -- let's see if you can knock out few instead of spamming more. Let's hope it'll be a fight instead of a POS anchor fest .
KilleR 004	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:34:00 - [59] Originally by: RCI DeXTeR[/quote ... we are cheaters and users of exploits at least they admit it
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:41:00 - [60] Originally by: KilleR 004 Originally by: RCI DeXTeR[/quote ... we are cheaters and users of exploits at least they admit it Yeah, we are using ALARM CLOCK!! CEO.
GirlScout	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:46:00 - [61] Originally by: Papa Digger Yeah, we are using ALARM CLOCK!! Right, thats an exploit. :)
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:57:00 - [62] Originally by: Amthrianius lol, this is funny So is your face, you big meanie! Nebba - The Vocal Majority
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:01:00 - [63] Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: KilleR 004 Originally by: RCI DeXTeR[/quote ... we are cheaters and users of exploits at least they admit it Yeah, we are using ALARM CLOCK!! My mobile failed to wake me up this morning
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:17:00 - [64] Originally by: nync Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: KilleR 004 Originally by: RCI DeXTeR[/quote ... we are cheaters and users of exploits at least they admit it Yeah, we are using ALARM CLOCK!! My mobile failed to wake me up this morning Mine did, but i turned it off cos u gits kept me up till 5am. :P Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:18:00 - [65] Bring on the innovation! Fighting RA is making me one of the best pilots in game. Thanks RA! Hugs and kisses, A Satisfied Enemy Nebba - The Vocal Majority
SenseOfHumorLOL	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:25:00 - [66] Nebba you still have a BoB sig on. SPY!!!!!!
exploer	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:33:00 - [67] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Bring on the innovation! Fighting RA is making me one of the best pilots in game. Thanks RA! Hugs and kisses, A Satisfied Enemy Post with your main Kiatolon
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:34:00 - [68] Originally by: The Judge Shame that the system is attacked when all the europeans are asleep. Shame that RA pilots are still able to log into this game. It is obvious exploit and CCP should do something with that ASAP. --------------------
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:43:00 - [69] Edited by: Komolov on 25/07/2006 13:44:03 Originally by: She Storm As for the fleet fight , yes it was a VERY GOOD FIGHT, RA had about 40 ships, about 35 or so were T2 BS, we had about the same number 16 of which were BS the rest were support cruisers and frigates. you did not kill all support as you state because 18 to 20 of us retreated and formed up in f2a to repair, and figure a strategy. Let me correct your corrections (sorry for doing this but...) RA gang had 25 BS Your gang had 26 BS I'm not going to look after all your downed ships but judging by familiar pilots' names you had a lot of T2 BS in gang too. --------------------
exploer	Posted - 2006.07.25 13:56:00 - [70] If your gang was killed by Red Allaince - send SMS on the number 456780 with the name of system and a short story 'bout it and you will get a dummy as a gift. If your story will be good enough - we'll send you a diaper.
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.07.25 14:00:00 - [71] ROTF Great sence of humor! Papa Digger and Explorer are the best!
exploer	Posted - 2006.07.25 14:14:00 - [72] Originally by: Obivan Efa ROTF Great sence of humor! Papa Digger and Explorer are the best! Post with your main.

Petwraith	Posted - 2006.07.25 15:04:00 - [73] Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. --- If it ain't orange, it ain't offical!

Snowcats	Posted - 2006.07.25 15:07:00 - [74] hi :)
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 15:10:00 - [75] Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. this is the bloody discussions, not summit forum...
aimez	Posted - 2006.07.25 15:10:00 - [76] I killed 2 angel generals yesterday, world please congratz me? Just kidding, it was a nice fight, i enjoyed it :* Will try to write a short story about what hapened When the batle started the situation was like this 17 coalition bs on the mj- gate in z0- camping 26 red alliance bs on the z0- gate in mj- No bubles present, 1 ra interdictor 5 coalition pilots in a SS in mj- Red Alliance jumped into z0- at the batle started Coalition knew we had less numbers but we had more ecm (one more scorp and maybe one more bb but not sure) and the adtanvage of ra jumping onto our camp made it a fair fight i think primairy's called secundairy's called people went down and people warped out/in again batle went on for quite a while, dont know exact time it took, other coalition batleships/support joined the ones fighting Red alliance gave a very good fight, i think the reason they won is the lack of bubles to keep the whole ra fleet stuck at one spot :* Just one friendly request stop with the convoing the enemy/crap like that before a batle starts, i know you guy's prolly just wanted a nice conversations and i am truly sorry if i offended you by rejecting it but it is kinda lame imo beside that thanks for the batle ^^
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.25 15:25:00 - [77] Originally by: Uther Doull Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. this is the bloody discussions, not summit forum... ^ what he said TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 16:16:00 - [78] Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 25/07/2006 16:22:35 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Uther Doull Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. this is the bloody discussions, not summit forum... ^ what he said Yepp kieron says: Quote: This is an out of character forum for discussing corporations, alliances, fansites and other organizations. ----------------------- Anyways, the only thing that the Red Allaince are really any good at is spamming POSs and recharging their shields in the morning using Capital Shield Transporters and then refilling them up with strontium again. I doubt that RA would survive a week if CCP were to implement my suggested change to POS warfare. Then they would HAVE to stand a fight for their POSs instead of just refueling the things. I used to have enormous respect for "The Russians" while we were both in CA, those days they would actually fight evenly matched odds and not just snipe and gank. I know, long time ago, but they have changed so much it's not even funny. To give you a little insight (in case your spies haven't already infomred you), during the weekend the coalition put all 10 of RA's large POSs into reinforced mode in a single evening. Did they show up ? Nope. They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way. And due to CCPs addition of Dreads and Carriers, you can camp a system for ever and they can still refuel a POS. Woot, aren't we all so proud of RA's might. CCP should at least stop POSs from being shield recharged, then an aggressor at least stands a fighting chance. But TBH, as it stands, a few carrier and dread pilots can make a mockery of hundreds of very frustrated players because of the current game mechanics. We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say. Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and I do not represent LV -- Mini Skill Planner
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.25 16:27:00 - [79] Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. WRONG FREAKING FORUM. This isn't the IC forum. You're looking for the link above this.
exploer Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 16:39:00 - [80] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 25/07/2006 16:22:35 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Uther Doull Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. this is the bloody discussions, not summit forum... ^ what he said Yepp kieron says: Quote: This is an out of character forum for discussing corporations, alliances, fansites and other organizations. ----------------------- Anyways, the only thing that the Red Allaince are really any good at is spamming POSs and recharging their shields in the morning using Capital Shield Transporters and then refilling them up with strontium again. I doubt that RA would survive a week if CCP were to implement my suggested change to POS warfare. Then they would HAVE to stand a fight for their POSs instead of just refueling the things. I used to have enormous respect for "The Russians" while we were both in CA, those days they would actually fight evenly matched odds and not just snipe and gank. I know, long time ago, but they have changed so much it's not even funny. To give you a little insight (in case your spies haven't already infomred you), during the weekend the coalition put all 10 of RA's large POSs into reinforced mode in a single evening. Did they show up ? Nope. They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way. And due to CCPs addition of Dreads and Carriers, you can camp a system for ever and they can still refuel a POS. Woot, aren't we all so proud of RA's might. CCP should at least stop POSs from being shield recharged, then an aggressor at least stands a fighting chance. But TBH, as it stands, a few carrier and dread pilots can make a mockery of hundreds of very frustrated players because of the current game mechanics. We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say. Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and I do not represent LV stop crying! RA is not your mommy
Pepperami Art of War Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 16:45:00 - [81] lol this thread has been butchered. [Art of War][- V -]
Daroh Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:14:00 - [82] Edited by: Daroh on 25/07/2006 17:15:17 You think that lame tactics are refueling and using shield transporters, we think that lame tactics is blobing. You cant win for now coz we use game mechanics very good, we use all aspects of the game - logistics, capital fleet, gank squads, bs fleets etc, and you cant find any tactics against ours. May be its not becouse of bad game mechanics? May be its coz you just cant turn your brains on and think some? For you would be better to ask Devs to change mechanics to your advantage...anyway we will find better tactics and you will start post on forum that you "cant win them coz they use their brains". You came for fun with huge blob? lol. Come with equal numbers and dont try to take our stations. And you will get the fun. Or you think that fights 5:1 must be fun for us? and hm....should we ask Devs to do smthing with blobs?
ArcheryTXS Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:17:00 - [83] Edited by: ArcheryTXS on 25/07/2006 17:27:05 Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 25/07/2006 16:22:35 ----------------------- Anyways, the only thing that the Red Allaince are really any good at is spamming POSs and recharging their shields in the morning using Capital Shield Transporters and then refilling them up with strontium again. I doubt that RA would survive a week if CCP were to implement my suggested change to POS warfare. Then they would HAVE to stand a fight for their POSs instead of just refueling the things. I used to have enormous respect for "The Russians" while we were both in CA, those days they would actually fight evenly matched odds and not just snipe and gank. I know, long time ago, but they have changed so much it's not even funny. To give you a little insight (in case your spies haven't already infomred you), during the weekend the coalition put all 10 of RA's large POSs into reinforced mode in a single evening. Did they show up ? Nope. They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way. And due to CCPs addition of Dreads and Carriers, you can camp a system for ever and they can still refuel a POS. Woot, aren't we all so proud of RA's might. CCP should at least stop POSs from being shield recharged, then an aggressor at least stands a fighting chance. But TBH, as it stands, a few carrier and dread pilots can make a mockery of hundreds of very frustrated players because of the current game mechanics. We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say. Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and I do not represent LV Jaabaa - cry me a river bebe =) / City Sadness...
Vashi Dokumentu The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 25/07/2006 16:22:35 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Uther Doull Originally by: Petwraith Please stay IC and refrain from flaming and trolling. this is the bloody discussions, not summit forum... ^ what he said Yepp kieron says: Quote: This is an out of character forum for discussing corporations, alliances, fansites and other organizations. ----------------------- Anyways, the only thing that the Red Allaince are really any good at is spamming POSs and recharging their shields in the morning using Capital Shield Transporters and then refilling them up with strontium again. I doubt that RA would survive a week if CCP were to implement my suggested change to POS warfare. Then they would HAVE to stand a fight for their POSs instead of just refueling the things. I used to have enormous respect for "The Russians" while we were both in CA, those days they would actually fight evenly matched odds and not just snipe and gank. I know, long time ago, but they have changed so much it's not even funny. To give you a little insight (in case your spies haven't already infomred you), during the weekend the coalition put all 10 of RA's large POSs into reinforced mode in a single evening. Did they show up ? Nope. They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way. And due to CCPs addition of Dreads and Carriers, you can camp a system for ever and they can still refuel a POS. Woot, aren't we all so proud of RA's might. CCP should at least stop POSs from being shield recharged, then an aggressor at least stands a fighting chance. But TBH, as it stands, a few carrier and dread pilots can make a mockery of hundreds of very frustrated players because of the current game mechanics. We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say. Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and I do not represent LV U had a lot of respect from me, from those days in xCA, but it`s just drops by what you posted......sad to see, what we`re all changing....
Pepperami Art of War Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:45:00 - [85] Originally by: Daroh Edited by: Daroh on 25/07/2006 17:15:17 You think that lame tactics are refueling and using shield transporters, we think that lame tactics is blobing. You cant win for now coz we use game mechanics very good, we use all aspects of the game - logistics, capital fleet, gank squads, bs fleets etc, and you cant find any tactics against ours. May be its not becouse of bad game mechanics? Well, I agree that generally RA have stepped up their tactics, especially with regards to bold use of capital ships, good move there. As for arguing about blob size, RA used to only engage with 50%+ extra pilots. Unfortunately, you no longer have the numbers. So not a very good come back there I do personally think the game mechanics do need changing, not because of how they're used by either side, but because they encourage boring gameplay. I'm yet to see the phrase "<3 pos warfare"... Except maybe when a t2 fitted bs, or a hauler with elite frigs, accidently warps to a moon in 1V-. I think POS warefare is one of the first times that EVE has made it harder to be the attacker, which is actually a good thing; but I think it's gone too far. I think one thing that could improve things is make dreads in siegemode much more effective at pvp so a capital fleet assaulting a pos is actually semi-competant when enemies turn up. Dreads came heavily pre-nerfed as I believe Oveur said.. So unnerf them a little ;) [Art of War][- V -]
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.07.25 17:48:00 - [86] i think that the coalation needs to bypass this system if they can and strike deeper into RA territory (heck even hire some mercs or pirates to snipe away at some of their deeper assets and hit their miners etc)
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 18:11:00 - [87] Originally by: Miss Overlord i think that the coalation needs to bypass this system if they can and strike deeper into RA territory (heck even hire some mercs or pirates to snipe away at some of their deeper assets and hit their miners etc) The heart of what territory ? Oh, you mean C-J and F2A ? We are already there -- Mini Skill Planner
Ivan Stang	Posted - 2006.07.25 18:13:00 - [88] Originally by: Pepperami I do personally think the game mechanics do need changing, not because of how they're used by either side, but because they encourage boring gameplay. I'm yet to see the phrase "<3 pos warfare" Noone is forcing you guys to engage in POS warfare in the first place. If it bores you that much, don't do it? Pretty simple if you ask me. Problem is, you've backed yourselves into a corner by constantly declaring your desire to "remove RA from the South." I've seen people from the "Coalition" claim numerous times that Insmother was "unused" and that noone on your side cares about that region. So why fight for it? You don't have to have a NAP, you can agree to respect each others territorial integrity and borders and just have fleet fights if that's what you want (and you all claim to want that). Even if you could remove RA from the South, then who would you fight? Bottom line is, if POS wars are boring, don't fight one.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.07.25 18:34:00 - [89] Originally by: Daroh Edited by: Daroh on 25/07/2006 17:15:17 we think that lame tactics is blobing. I find this EXTREMLY ironic. Poverty
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 18:34:00 - [90] gf
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 19:14:00 - [91] Jabaa wants to degrade this game to a level where BLOB = WIN. No way dude. klik, .... davno pora
dghdfgh	Posted - 2006.07.25 19:25:00 - [92] Why not just have an organized 10 v 10 fight to determine the winner of the entire war?
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 19:31:00 - [93] Originally by: dghdfgh Why not just have an organized 10 v 10 fight to determine the winner of the entire war? How can anyone suggest such a thing after witnessing RA's performance in the PvP championships -- Mini Skill Planner
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 19:35:00 - [94] Originally by: Fargas Jabaa wants to degrade this game to a level where BLOB = WIN. No way dude. Not blob wars exactly, but numbers should count. To control space you should have to have the numbers, not capital shield boosters and a timezone advantage -- Mini Skill Planner
jeriwo Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.25 19:40:00 - [95] Edited by: jeriwo on 25/07/2006 19:43:35 Respect to pilots of coalition that understand one thing - this is a game - not real and having real fun in fight on battlfield instead of crying at forums. GL PS Ye...another farytale - now about "timezone advantage". What wold be next? Any member of Ra login when you sleep is exploit in future may be? Nice try Jabba. Real man.
McDan Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 20:26:00 - [96] Lol equal numbers my arse! I cannot remember the last time you fought us when the odds were not heavily stacked in your favour. People will see through this crap immediately. Now, don't think i am complaining about the way you play the game because i am not. Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships.
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:00:00 - [97] Originally by: McDan Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships. Hello looser. Welcome to the real world. You had 26 battleships. Battle debriefing here PS If you had only 16 how have you managed to loose 21? --------------------
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:04:00 - [98] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: McDan Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships. Hello looser. Welcome to the real world. You had 26 battleships. Battle debriefing here PS If you had only 16 how have you managed to loose 21? Please can I get access to your killboard, so that I can start posting your lossmails for you? A fair request, I'm sure we can all agree. Please send access details to my main. --------
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:05:00 - [99] Or is there something you are trying to... hide? --------
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:08:00 - [100] Originally by: The Enslaver Please can I get access to your killboard, so that I can start posting your lossmails for you? A fair request, I'm sure we can all agree. Please send access details to my main. Contact Pastora in-game like it is written on our killboard's first page. --------------------
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:09:00 - [101] Originally by: The Enslaver Or is there something you are trying to... hide? Me? Nooo --------------------
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:14:00 - [102] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: The Enslaver Please can I get access to your killboard, so that I can start posting your lossmails for you? A fair request, I'm sure we can all agree. Please send access details to my main. Contact Pastora in-game like it is written on our killboard's first page. Actually, there isn't any info on your killboard's first page. --------
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:20:00 - [103] Originally by: The Enslaver Actually, there isn't any info on your killboard's first page. Oops. Now it is written on in-game version's page only. --------------------
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:34:00 - [104] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: McDan Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships. Hello looser. Welcome to the real world. You had 26 battleships. Battle debriefing here PS If you had only 16 how have you managed to loose 21? shinra smack squad pwned next time try to be more imaginative and btw mby its time to stop that stupid propaganda? you whined about login trap and was pwned, you whined about not equal numbers and got powned again. you look pretty pathetic klik, .... davno pora
Orree Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:37:00 - [105] Originally by: Uther Doull Edited by: Uther Doull on 25/07/2006 10:31:58 Originally by: nync Another from me today. there are about 60 moons in F2A, with 30 Coalition small offlined POS'es, 10 medium offlined POS'es and 13 large onlined towers with no equipment on them and 10 large fully equipped RA battle POS'es and you are calling us POS spammers??? why do you think that is? yes that's right, to prevent RA from getting sov by putting up more towers then the coalition... call it 'pre-emptive' spammage That's a rather convenient characterization. You despise it...you accuse others of doing, but you're not above doing it. Not a lot of conviction there...
exploer Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:48:00 - [106] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: McDan Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships. Hello looser. Welcome to the real world. You had 26 battleships. Battle debriefing here PS If you had only 16 how have you managed to loose 21? Muahahahahahahaha GJ RA
McDan Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 21:53:00 - [107] Originally by: Komolov Originally by: McDan Just don't fool yourselves into thinking that you won that fight on equal terms. We had about 16 Battleships. Hello looser. Welcome to the real world. You had 26 battleships. Battle debriefing here PS If you had only 16 how have you managed to loose 21? Your killboards are well known to be very inaccurate so i do not believe those stats for a second but you can go ahead and keep fooling yourself. As for the loser comment... LOL!
Chowdown Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.25 22:05:00 - [108] Edited by: Chowdown on 25/07/2006 22:05:23 Originally by: Fargas shinra smack squad pwned next time try to be more imaginative and btw mby its time to stop that stupid propaganda? you whined about login trap and was pwned, you whined about not equal numbers and got powned again. you look pretty pathetic Hush now, no one cares about your perceptions of other entities. You and BH have embarrassed yourselves enough times on the forums for no one to take you seriously. I will tell you what is pathetic. Pathetic is the fact that everytime RA get the anywhere near a success, I have 5 RA affiliated people convo me on MSN and say "Hi." Yes I know you are there what do you want a round of applause, I guess I will here from you again in a couple of months when you have some minor victory again. Pathetic is you guys finally asking if maybe you could just have insmother, please, sit down and be quiet. Stop embarrassing yourself, it is painful to watch.
Abye Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.25 22:26:00 - [109] Originally by: jeriwo Edited by: jeriwo on 25/07/2006 19:43:35 Respect to pilots of coalition that understand one thing - this is a game - not real and having real fun in fight on battlfield instead of crying at forums. GL It is no fun to spend days sealing off a system to fight a bunch of POSes that get refueled right after downtime and having the blockade overrun at 5 am when noone is up. I won't mind a real Battlefield where actual fighting would happen, WOULD YOU ?
Xenofur	Posted - 2006.07.25 22:40:00 - [110] I think i can explain why some think we only had 16 battleships and why RA killed a good bit more than that: Shortly after we left 8-W to fall back to F2A several people began to log in in 8-W from the american and australian/asian/etc. timezones. The problem was now: These people were seperated from the main gang and cut off by RA pilots in between them. This is where our mistake happened: Instead of having them try to sneak in and bolster our numbers directly, we decided to engage the RA force that at that point was about equal in size to the main force of the coalition gang (which was about 30 people, 16 BS, as stated before) and try to form up with the newcoming logins. Well, as was previously described by aimez, the two forces formed up on the gates and waited. At one point the RA force jumped through and unimpeded by bubbles took up sniper positions. This hit the main force quite hard, since at that point the odds were quite in favor of RA. As the battle was underway and the word got through to the newcoming logins they jumped through and joined the on-going battle, landing themselves in prime sniping range. So while the numbers say the fight was even, the actual situation in the battlefield was quite different, since additional coalition members joined the fight later on and did so under unfavorable conditions as well. :)
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.25 23:06:00 - [111] Originally by: LTD THOR we should bring enough numbers in BS¦s next time. OMG LOL ))))) as i see on killboard there were 25 BS (RA +friendly corps) vs 26 BS (KOS + LV+ CHIMP + -V-) 10 RA support ships vs 21 coal support ships RA were jumping in you were camping.... RA lost 5 bs + 3 support Coal lost 21 bs + 21 support ) hm......ye.....realy .....you right... you need more bs to win )] mb 40-50 vs 25..... and then cry on forum......omg its too boring to fight vs RA......they just stay on safespot and don t fight....and then log off......and pilots of coalition cant understand: why RA pilots don t want to fight 10 bs vs 15-20+ etc??? why these **** russian noobs don t want to die for free? where is our fun? and with bloody eyes cry everytime and evrywhere DIE RA......)))
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.25 23:09:00 - [112] mactep, please sacrifice a few minutes and read the post exactly above yours. ;)
Soulis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 23:24:00 - [113] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Shinra - The Good Guys
Jaabaa Prime Dental Drilling Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.25 23:38:00 - [114] /emote proposes cross kill board posting When LV posts kill/death is forwared to RA board When RA posts kill/death is forwared to LV board Lets try this and keep the numbers clean with out false kill mails (on either side). How does the Red Alliance feel about such a kill server inter-communication ?? -- Mini Skill Planner
jeriwo Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.26 03:07:00 - [115] Originally by: Abye Originally by: jeriwo Edited by: jeriwo on 25/07/2006 19:43:35 Respect to pilots of coalition that understand one thing - this is a game - not real and having real fun in fight on battlfield instead of crying at forums. GL It is no fun to spend days sealing off a system to fight a bunch of POSes that get refueled right after downtime and having the blockade overrun at 5 am when noone is up. I won't mind a real Battlefield where actual fighting would happen, WOULD YOU ? If its your way how to lead to victory - so if its everyday blob so its your bf YES? Your choice how to win and your way. Prefer blobbing tackics using that fact that your have 5000+ instead of 800+ peoples in RA? Its your choice and i think its not my biseness About post i mean some peoples who fight in THAT little engagment (20+ - 20+) and some pilots of ERA who say gf in local and here and dont cry at forums like babes about RA timezone exploiters logofsky etc - like Jaaba. Lets play without babys crying or use babysitter to help ya....
Lord Wimbishi Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 06:06:00 - [116] Quote: this is getting a little sad now tbh, no other allies whine about pos's quite as much as the southern coalition. RA are very logistically strong and well organised, get over it. Time zones for the world bud. It is the one of two reasons why RA is still alive. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Burzhuj REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 07:17:00 - [117] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi Quote: this is getting a little sad now tbh, no other allies whine about pos's quite as much as the southern coalition. RA are very logistically strong and well organised, get over it. Time zones for the world bud. It is the one of two reasons why RA is still alive. Moscow timezone it GMT+3:00 it is really so huge advance?
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 08:22:00 - [118] Originally by: Xenofur Shortly after we left 8-W to fall back to F2A several people began to log in in 8-W from the american and australian/asian/etc. timezones. You make it sound like the battle took hours or something. Actually, it lasted only 17 minutes. Originally by: Xenofur As the battle was underway and the word got through to the newcoming logins they jumped through and joined the on-going battle, landing themselves in prime sniping range. So, do you mean you have tried to do login trap, but have failed? :) Originally by: Jaabaa Prime /emote proposes cross kill board posting Contact me ingame, and we will exchange some e-mails on this subject. I have very little free time on my hands at the moment, but I shall try to find some. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 08:42:00 - [119] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Xenofur Shortly after we left 8-W to fall back to F2A several people began to log in in 8-W from the american and australian/asian/etc. timezones. You make it sound like the battle took hours or something. Actually, it lasted only 17 minutes. Not at all. I am talking about the time before the fight. The time where the main camp in 8-W packed up its ** and moved down to F2A, after which you moved into the pipe to F2A, cutting off those who had logged on meanwhile. Personally i find it perplexing how my words could be misinterpreted like this. Originally by:** Pastora Originally by: Xenofur As the battle was underway and the word got through to the newcoming logins they jumped through and joined the on-going battle, landing themselves in prime sniping range. So, do you mean you have tried to do login trap, but have failed? :) Once again, not at all. oO All I'm saying is that this fight happened not at equal odds as the numbers suggest, because the coalition forces were not combined from the beginning, like yours were. I am in no way trying to say that you fought unfairly or exploited, only that you did have an advantage due to circumstances. :)
Minevra	Posted - 2006.07.26 08:57:00 - [120] Originally by: Xenofur All I'm saying is that this fight happened not at equal odds as the numbers suggest, because the coalition forces were not combined from the beginning, like yours were. I am in no way trying to say that you fought unfairly or exploited, only that you did have an advantage due to circumstances. :) You were waiting for us, your BS's were in optimal firinig positions, your support ships were on insta, number of BS and support ships were almost equal - so where was we having advantage? If your forces "were not combined" - it's a quastion to the guys who commanded your fleet.
Rakull	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:08:00 - [121] Originally by: Jaabaa Prime They just micro-managed the strontium reserves so that the POSs would come out of reinforced mode in the morning where most of the euros are working and most of the americans are asleep. What a way to fight, taking a station that way is just plain lame. They have been doing this for the past week by the way. Quote: We're all up for a good fight over territory, but it would appear that RA don't have the balls, they are happy putting up POSs and using a timezone advantage along with capital shield transporters. A real fun way to play EVE I do say. i'm rarely post on this lame official forums but couple of things amuse me every time i read the posts like quoted above. 1. Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? We also sleep at euro timezone and go to work same time as your euro corps(hello E.R.A.). So calling lame to take fights in suitable time -that is lame indeed. 2. Taking station while americans asleep. O.M.G. What about sweeping Cache while russians asleep? What about taking G-j6 while russians asleep? Camping n-rael while we asleep? Finally what about set up blokade in 8-w while russians asleep? Getting my point? This is game. Everyone plays this game wherever he/she wants. This is not a sceduled job to be logged on in definite time or your boss will fire you. Wthat makes you think that we must to log in in time when you play? We taking fun from you this way?Live with it or go play gameboy arcade-this you can turn on anytime. So stop blaming RA using timezone advantages. Because this is really lame-not the way we fight. P.S. Sorry for my grammar
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:12:00 - [122] Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 09:15:17 @ Minevra: sigh I explained it above already, but i'll try to make it more simple. 1. Main gang sits at 8-W. 2. Decision is made to move to F2A. 3. Main gang moves down to F2A. 4. RA comes in, pops unguarded bubbles, moves further towards F2A. 5. People of different timezones begin to log in at 8-W, because they were previously part of the camp in 8-W and when they had to go sleep had safe-spotted and logged off in the system. 6. People realize they are cut off and ask for help. 7. Main camp moves to ZO-. 8. RA waits on the other side of the gate for reinforcements of theirs to arrive. (Another mistake of us here, we should've jumped on you ASAP. -.-) 9. Meanwhile the stragglers from 8-W have moved to MJ- and save-spotted, waiting for orders. 10. RA forces jump in on main gang, consisting mainly of frigates and cruisers and 16 battleships, battle begins. 11. After initial flurry of confusion and activity the stragglers in M-J warp to the ZO- gate and jump over to join the battle, which already has cost the main camp several ships. As far as i know they didn't even have instas. Additionally the RA forces were at that point set up for sniping range on the gate.
Gor Manufacturer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:15:00 - [123] Originally by: Minevra You were waiting for us, your BS's were in optimal firinig positions, your support ships were on insta, number of BS and support ships were almost equal - so where was we having advantage? Oh yes the people from 8-w? When the battle began there were few coalition ships in 8-w? The other were log offed? Login trap? If your forces "were not combined" - it's a quastion to the guys who commanded your fleet. Signed. You stay on position what you selected, not RA gang Director R.N
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:18:00 - [124] Originally by: Rakull Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^
Rakull	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:33:00 - [125] Originally by: Xenofur Originally by: Rakull Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^ Using modern communication methods like mobile phones, ICQ, email and such helps a lot. Someone wakes up early to covert to find out what's going on in system, waked up the ones he could contact, they waked up the rest. Simple huh? And than happy RA euro pilots went to their RL jobs :)
Luna Negra FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:35:00 - [126] I never post on the forums but: 1. RA is the most boring enemy you can imagine in the GAME! 2. RA is the most funniest enemy on the FORUMS Period. Current game mechanics make the experience really booring if the enemy want it to bee so. I wonder when people get tired and close accounts and CCP loose money... Changes need to be made to the POS war! Even if they are minor they still are changes... Gravity you win again!
Burzhuj REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:41:00 - [127] Originally by: Xenofur Originally by: Rakull Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^ We using several exploits, like alarm clock to wake up 4.00 AM, and someone use cofiie exploit, and not slepping at all.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:45:00 - [128] So you set your alarm clocks to times when the americans begin to go to bed and the central europeans are already fast asleep? What i thought, thanks for the confirmation. :)
Kian Jorry	Posted - 2006.07.26 09:58:00 - [129] enough of this i would think. we blob, ra use guerilla tactics. so what, who cares? if we want to keep playing this game, we have to adapt. or suck roids in jita. seems obvious. pointless way this thread has gone.
Gor Manufacturer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 10:01:00 - [130] Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 26/07/2006 10:01:41 Originally by: Kian Jorry we blob, ra use guerilla tactics. so what, who cares? if we want to keep playing this game, we have to adapt. or suck roids in jita. Well said. Director R.N
exploer Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 10:02:00 - [131] Originally by: Luna Negra I never post on the forums but: 1. RA is the most boring enemy you can imagine in the GAME! 2. RA is the most funniest enemy on the FORUMS Period. Current game mechanics make the experience really booring if the enemy want it to bee so. I wonder when people get tired and close accounts and CCP loose money... Changes need to be made to the POS war! Even if they are minor they still are changes... I had never write here, but coalition's cry beat me completely. 1: LOLKA Volterski is mostest boresome enemie with 5:1 tactics. 2: LV you cant consider your defeat even after seeing our frapses. your runaround words sounds like 'login trap!1!!1!!', 'exploit!!!!11', 'cheats!!!!11', 'timezone!!!!11', solar storm!!!111, marsquake!!!111, flight of a comet!!11 etc Guys from coalition you should join new alliance named Xetic t2
Raxxar Friends Corp	Posted - 2006.07.26 10:04:00 - [132] I have been flying a bit in US prime time in that region(NY time was 7 pm I guess), haven't seen any enemies, only strong GF camp in N-RAEL. Or maybe you guys working too much in rl and leave offices at 9 pm?
King Dave Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:41:00 - [133] quote=Daroh]Edited by: Daroh on 25/07/2006 17:15:17 we think that lame tactics is blobing. i dont get why this blobbing tactic is thought of as bad? It just means we ahve alot more people wanting to be on our side, and be on our side and fight? If your scared of blobs, why dont u recruit some more people. Ofc u ahve tried ghost before, but u didn't treat them so well, so they joined us. stop whining... ------------------------------- don't speak english... f1, f2, alt-q!
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 12:05:00 - [134] Originally by: Rakull Originally by: Xenofur Originally by: Rakull Turn on your brain dude and learn geography. Russians are Euros as well mostly. So what difference between our euros and coalition? Out of curiosity, how did you manage to get a 30-40 strong gang online at 0500 AM russian time? ^^ Using modern communication methods like mobile phones, ICQ, email and such helps a lot. Someone wakes up early to covert to find out what's going on in system, waked up the ones he could contact, they waked up the rest. Simple huh? And than happy RA euro pilots went to their RL jobs :) So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Burlock Ironfist Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 12:34:00 - [135] The fourms are the only fun thing about fighting RA.... "opinions our my own thank you very much"
Rakull R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 12:54:00 - [136] Edited by: Rakull on 26/07/2006 12:57:09 Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job You missing the point m8. The question was asked how we managed to gather such fleet that early. I think i answered creary to that question. And this has nothing to do with RL issues. Our pilots saw opportutity that very morning, so they tried to get as many dedicated pilots online as possible. This is purely about dedication to the common goal. If you ever understand what this words mean. Than you might start to understand how RA holds and keeps fighting. Yes this is game, yes i usually sleep at this time. But if anyone from my comrades would call my mobile and said that there is opportunity for RA to break the blocade right that morning at 4 AM-i'd be there no questions asked. WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference. --- Two beer or not two beer? That is the question :)
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 13:01:00 - [137] Edited by: Pastora on 26/07/2006 13:02:55 Originally by: King Dave i dont get why this blobbing tactic is thought of as bad? It just means we ahve alot more people wanting to be on our side, and be on our side and fight? If your scared of blobs, why dont u recruit some more people. Ofc u ahve tried ghost before, but u didn't treat them so well, so they joined us. It just means that you have more people, who are looking for easy gaming. I don't blame'em for that, though. Everyone likes, what he likes. Blob and chat >> a lot of fun for you I guess. And stop with this nonsense about recruiting people. :) What about GHOST? GHOST were weak. Want some proof? Look at their alliance now. As it turned our, it was a big plus for us, we didn't keep them in blue. I know, now the "ough-so-rightful-and-betrayed-Lord-Wimbishi" will come here and will start to call us stupid names, but let him be. They came for easy ride, they were disappointed. They have destroyed themselves. And you have helped them in that, as much as we did. :) Though, some of them were good enough and joined stronger alliances in your coalition. And to be honest, it is not as easy for us to recruit people as for you. Our main chat and TS has always been, is and probably will be in Russian. This is a simple fact, because many our pilots are not that good in English. Perhaps they can manage to understand something, but for some it is 100% impossible to express themselves in English. We have tried, we know. If you have tried and succeeded, kudos to you! It was easier for some our foreign friends to form their own alliances after all. It is just that much you can keep with Russian in alliance chat, in gang chat, in alliance mails, in TS, on forums, and so on... Then most get tired of it, if they don't understand it. Originally by: King Dave stop whining... That's your members who are whining most. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Xaarist FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 13:03:00 - [138] correction: i had to correct it in another thread, now that we have this lie in here three times, i will correct again: CHIMP took C-J on a weekend, starting at 9 o'clock EVE time. russians should have easily been awake at this time according to your statements earlier. we did not take it a US timezones, since CHIMP at that time was basically european only. the fact you couldn't do anything against it was due to being locked out of the system completely. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 13:13:00 - [139] Edited by: Pastora on 26/07/2006 13:17:38 Originally by: Xaarist CHIMP took C-J on a weekend, starting at 9 o'clock EVE time. russians should have easily been awake at this time according to your statements earlier. we did not take it a US timezones, since CHIMP at that time was basically european only. An offtopic comment from me: Quite often on weekends we are drunk, and in hangover at 9 o'clock at the morning. Did you forget about that? :) As for your message: What was the date? I honestly, can't remember, as I have not even been there then. You have been planning that, and we back then still had quite a few station left to defend. We couldn't be everywhere at the same time >> that's small whining, please feel free to insult me now. Edit: Damn typos! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Xaarist FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 13:27:00 - [140] why should i insult you for that? the only reason i could imagine would be that you're going to like it. if it's a fetish of yours, we can discuss that in evemails. i can not remember the date tbh, and i fully understand the effects of a hangover on the will to play computer games. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.26 13:40:00 - [141] Tbh, the red's complained and moaned when they were gettin spanked in fleet battle's, losin there stations and getting there dreads popped, now the coalition is getting some. It's gone full circle and if the coalition can adapt with the red's, you'll see them gettin a bloody nose and coming on and whining again and it will continue. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Minevra	Posted - 2006.07.26 17:02:00 - [142] Originally by: Burlock Ironfist The fourms are the only fun thing about fighting RA.... Russians use to say "If you don't want to do something you search for exuses not to do it". Don't serch for excuses - war is hell. And RA is a Devil in hell .
Rakull R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 17:23:00 - [143] Just as a side note. Why do we have to treat eash other like this? Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this: Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you? Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal? Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head? I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring. We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment --- Two beer or not two beer? That is the question :)
Abye Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 18:21:00 - [144] Originally by: Rakull Just as a side note. Why do we have to treat eash other like this? Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this: Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you? Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal? Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head? I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring. We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment You listed where the playing session itself was fun. I log into eve and hope this damn POS-War is finally over so i can have fun with my corpmates, instead i sit at a gatecamp for 5 hours (RA won't show up during primetime anyway) with no action. The point is, FIGHTING RA IS INSANELY BORING NOT FUN.
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.26 18:47:00 - [145] Originally by: Rakull Just as a side note. Why do we have to treat eash other like this? Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this: Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you? Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal? Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head? I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring. We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment I can answer that quite easily: If you'd enjoy for example a game of monopoly with your friends, the game is over when one has all streets, because the chance to hop indefinately between the streets he owns and don't have to pay the fee is 0. when you had only 1 row of streets left (cache in the case of eve) we offered you a ceasefire and would you let keep cache and the complexes there. But the offer got rejected arrogantly. So we took cache as well and had every street. The only thing keeping you alive is the fact that -in opposite of Monopoly- you can choose the spots you land on with your play figure (i.e. you can choose the reinforcement time to your needs) Since we cover 18h/day (at the weekend even more but you put 2 days of stron in it before weekend), every static reinforcement time would've result in your defeat already. Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat. But CCP just has 1 imbalance in the game mechanics which keeps you alive and did the same for you vs The5. I played vs Stain Empire in Omist and it was a hard and tough fight, but they didn't want to hang on a boring gameplay, packed their things and moved on after a while since the only chance would've been to go your way, the POS way. So I ask you: When you play monopoly with your friends and you do not have anything anymore and the only thing you can do is to hop from safespot to safespot, would you have harrassed your friends with doing that for days just to bore them to death and they finally give up due to it? I do not blame anyone on your side for not trying to do it that way but you shouldn't wonder then that the whole coalition doesn't take it as a game anymore because there's no fun involved. The ones to blame are only CCP for making such a weak rule for one of the most important parts of the game mechanics. But Kudos to your side note. Well observed. I do not see you as hateful enemies. In the end it's a game. But the only thing what makes me some sort of disappointed and bored is the fact that the fun fighting you is long gone. Boring work has taken it's place instead. Regards x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat Life's a waste of time ...
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 18:50:00 - [146] Originally by: Rakull Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel So u wake up ppl just so they can log on and play a game !!! My boss in RL wont even dare do that unless its like a catastrophe or the entire DB we work on has crashed !!! Funny thing is one of ur alliance m8s is askign ppl to enjoy it as a game and not a RL thing , i think this advice should also apply to u guys as well , ur taking this game way serious than a RL job You missing the point m8. The question was asked how we managed to gather such fleet that early. I think i answered creary to that question. And this has nothing to do with RL issues. Our pilots saw opportutity that very morning, so they tried to get as many dedicated pilots online as possible. This is purely about dedication to the common goal. If you ever understand what this words mean. Than you might start to understand how RA holds and keeps fighting. Yes this is game, yes i usually sleep at this time. But if anyone from my comrades would call my mobile and said that there is opportunity for RA to break the blocade right that morning at 4 AM-i'd be there no questions asked. WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference. I have to agree. I did not ask in order to put RA down. I was honestly curious where those people came from, when others say that RA people follow normal sleep patterns as well. One point that could be made is the following: RA does not simply enjoy an inherent advantage due to timezones. They do work and use effort in order to gain advantages. To put them down because of this and accuse them of things that are wrong in this context seems to me like being envious because of their strength. Originally by: Rakull Just as a side note. Why do we have to treat eash other like this? Yes we might be enemies ingame at this point but think of it as this: Do you treat your friend when you play "Monopoly" as your mutual enemy when they take some streets from you? Do you treat as enemy your neighbour during weekend poker game only for that he's winnig the deal? Do you trat your friend as enemy on AD&D pen& paper session only because he's playing role of assasin which came for your head? I personaly dont think of you as my enemies- rather like game partners. Without you game would be boring. We all need to learn how to respect our game partners as they make our game playable and enjoyable. Even if they play role of you enemy at this moment I would like to see you as an equal opponent. Sadly i can only look at you in two ways. 1. The people who have so far managed to destroy 1/5 of the property of my corp, which is a relatively weak corp of miners. 2. People who, despite their strengths, allow persons in their ranks that actively abuse tools given by the developers in order to make unintended use of them. I will list only one undisputable example: One member of our gang received a gang invite from one of your people while he was typing in chat, when he hit enter to send his message that request was accepted and he was warped to one of your POSes before he had even realized what had happened. Spoken in Monopoly terms this is similar to one who kicks the table while your dice are rolling to force a result that is more favourable to him. I think you see why it is difficult to see people who allow their own to use such methods, as equal opponents. If you are truly intent on changing this, how about giving us a contact in your ranks who we can report such occurances to so you deal with them?
Kha1n Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 20:27:00 - [147] I read some last forumÆs posts and ingame local talks and become anxious with some Coalition members mental facultiesà seems like they are 10-13 yo childs Explanation: KidÆs u will never get such insta easy wins and fun, as logging in game -> insta getting RA lessnumbered gang as targets and without weaponary -> easy target shooting -> winning without losses -> getting quick fun Why not? BECAUSE THIS SERVICE IS NOT INCLUDING IN GAME PAYMENT! KidÆs calm down and stop crying, if u donÆt like RAÆs tactics - go and play in World of Worcraftà maybe there uÆll be heroes! Or better play singleplayer games - NPC will not make u cryingà but in ur case they probably will.. P.S. 1. It is not a RAÆs fault that u hurt by ur coevals 2. It is not a RAÆs fault that u are an unlucky fellow 3. It is not a RAÆs fault that u donÆt have a girlfriend 4. It is not a RAÆs fault that ur wage is low 5. It is not a RAÆs fault that u canÆt do complex with 20 friendly BSÆs then 4 RAÆs BSÆs disturb u 6. It is not a RAÆs fault that u loose in eqaual gang fights 7. It is not a RAÆs fault that CCP invented POSs 8. It is not a RAÆs fault that there are different Time Zones 9. It is not a RAÆs fault that u donÆt know how to use Alarm Clock
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 20:29:00 - [148] Originally by: c0rn1 skipped Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat. skipped Right dude, you got numbers, thus we MUST surrender. Becouse its not fair, becouse its not fun for you. You have made boredom simulator of this game for yourself. And thats your problem. klik, .... davno pora
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:02:00 - [149] Edited by: c0rn1 on 26/07/2006 21:04:44 Originally by: Fargas Originally by: c0rn1 skipped Fair players would've given up already and accepted their defeat. skipped Right dude, you got numbers, thus we MUST surrender. Becouse its not fair, becouse its not fun for you. You have made boredom simulator of this game for yourself. And thats your problem. are you a journalist or propagande expert? because they usually rip one sentence out of the context and base their analysis (propagande/opinion) on that. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat Life's a waste of time ...
Nebuli Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:28:00 - [150] Edited by: Nebuli on 26/07/2006 21:30:41 Wtfs going on with this forum?!? doesnt post, then it posts a blank answer, then it deletes your answer, messed up CCP fix it already, anyway.... So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Also we blob all the time, yet when the war began we were heavily outnumbered by RED, I mean wtf? CEO - Art of War
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.26 22:01:00 - [151] Originally by: Nebuli Edited by: Nebuli on 26/07/2006 21:30:41 Wtfs going on with this forum?!? doesnt post, then it posts a blank answer, then it deletes your answer, messed up CCP fix it already, anyway.... So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Also we blob all the time, yet when the war began we were heavily outnumbered by RED, I mean wtf? Oi.. youre making us look like the good guys.. cant have that happening!!
Minevra	Posted - 2006.07.26 22:09:00 - [152] Originally by: Nebuli So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Yes, because we're all friends and we have a mutual hobby - EVE. Thats why we can get up at 4AM. 2 c0rn1: WTS a full stabs typhoon
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.07.26 22:33:00 - [153] Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 22:34:09 Another question i'm curious about: What would RA say if we log out 3/4 of the camp and have them log in as soon as you attack? Purely hypothetically speaking of course. I'm honestly curious as to what the reaction would be.
Burzhuj REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.26 22:55:00 - [154] Edited by: Burzhuj on 26/07/2006 22:55:48 Originally by: Xenofur Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 22:34:09 Another question i'm curious about: What would RA say if we log out 3/4 of the camp and have them log in as soon as you attack? Purely hypothetically speaking of course. I'm honestly curious as to what the reaction would be. I 95% sure, that we don`t say any single world about it in the forum. And i absolutly serios about this.
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:12:00 - [155] Originally by: Xenofur Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 22:34:09 Another question i'm curious about: What would RA say if we log out 3/4 of the camp and have them log in as soon as you attack? Purely hypothetically speaking of course. I'm honestly curious as to what the reaction would be. go on dividing forces is pretty dangerous, you could be heavily spanked klik, .... davno pora
Nebuli Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:22:00 - [156] Originally by: Burzhuj Edited by: Burzhuj on 26/07/2006 22:55:48 Originally by: Xenofur Edited by: Xenofur on 26/07/2006 22:34:09 Another question i'm curious about: What would RA say if we log out 3/4 of the camp and have them log in as soon as you attack? Purely hypothetically speaking of course. I'm honestly curious as to what the reaction would be. I 95% sure, that we don`t say any single world about it in the forum. And i absolutly serios about this. Rubbish, you claim we use these tactics now when we dont, what would happen if we did lol. CEO - Art of War
Bluestealth Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:36:00 - [157] I read up to the top of this page... my head hurts... good job RA, you keep the good fight going... to everyone else
Qui Chen Sensus Numinis	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:48:00 - [158] Originally by: Papa Digger .... PS. 2 Qui Chen. You were very unlucky when try to finish my ship.. I warp out on 120 sturcture hp. only one shot! you're really a lucky bastard ... gf & cya on the battlefield
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 00:05:00 - [159] c0rn1, there is always an option to leave the area and go to fight another enemy you think consists of the "fair players"... I understand if you would complain to CCP, if we came to GW and somehow managed to take every NPC station there, so you couldn't dock, thus forcing you to leave your home. But no, you pushed us from our homes, and now you just expect us to give up?! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:09:00 - [160] Originally by: Pastora c0rn1, there is always an option to leave the area and go to fight another enemy you think consists of the "fair players"... I understand if you would complain to CCP, if we came to GW and somehow managed to take every NPC station there, so you couldn't dock, thus forcing you to leave your home. But no, you pushed us from our homes, and now you just expect us to give up?! When we started the war, RA with app 2,000 members occupied 5 regions (detorid, insmother, wicked creek, scalding and cache). Right now the coalition occupies 6 regions with around 10,000 people. Since The5 war vs you was over, the usercount on the server trippled and put a high pressure on the 0.0 regions as well. How long would you think to be able to keep 5 regions with that small amount of people? Detorid, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass were basically deserted regions. Another thing is that we considered Cache as the home of RA since Insmother was basically the home of CWRA (part of RA but they are gone now) so we offered you when your member count was at around 1,000 to keep cache as your completely own region absolutely independent and without any restrictions as well as even docking rights in the old stations to get your stuff out. If you wanted to expand, you could've easily done that direction geminate which is now abandoned again. You arrogantly rejected. So You cannot blame us for keeping the war alive. you had a nice and kind offer to live in peace there and follow your own business but instead you presented a list of demands which was a pure insult to us since we were and are sitting in the driver seat. We played fair and got a smack in our face. How would you react? And btw. since I am in -V- I am living in scalding pass from the hour on when we took the station (was even part of it when the coalition took it). Regards P.S.: The only reason I complain to CCP is because of the imbalanced dynamic reinforcement time. When I was in FSA and we took Tenerifis I and a friend did the same as you and we claimed sov after a while so we could take the station. But only for a week and it was enough to get MWA down. It's just imbalanced and I can say it from both sides, as user that time or as attacker this time. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat Life's a waste of time ...
Constantinee Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 03:47:00 - [161] Originally by: Mr Happ With all due repsect sir Im sure everyone si very happy red alliance are doing very well, however we don't need a damn forum post everytime you win a battle mmkey Agreed 100% You dont see the coalition posting a "WE WON FOR A CHANGE BUT STILL USE STABS" every time they whoop you now do you? Want a Cheap sig?
balrog The Collective	Posted - 2006.07.27 04:26:00 - [162] Quote: You dont see the coalition posting a "WE WON FOR A CHANGE BUT STILL USE STABS" every time they whoop you now do you? But stil you feel the urge to read/reply. So it must be good for something Privet Fargas kak dela? :)))))))))
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.27 05:46:00 - [163] Originally by: balrog But stil you feel the urge to read/reply. So it must be good for something from the beginning, before -V- was invading scalding pass, and later during the war with coalitions, they got offered several times a peacful solution/neighbourhood. you red it x times what happend. they laughed in our faces ingame and feeded their propaganda machine outgame.. a behavior like this deserves these war ingame, and here in teh forums! they only get what they deserve. thats why lots of peeps are rdy to antismack RA¦s propaganda machine here i guess ( wich isn¦t workin rly intelligent btw ). My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 06:11:00 - [164] Originally by: c0rn1 You arrogantly rejected. So You cannot blame us for keeping the war alive. you had a nice and kind offer to live in peace there and follow your own business but instead you presented a list of demands which was a pure insult to us since we were and are sitting in the driver seat. We played fair and got a smack in our face. How would you react? Omg, holy naivety, are you REALLY think, that you are sitting in the driver seat in this war??? 80% of RA member who begin this war are left alliance, so u win those war reducing RA power. But it's another war now. You grow new RA PVPer generation, and now we choose where and when to strike. I know it's boring for you search for hiding enemies, but one mistake and our gang bring you to death. This is a fun war for us, not for you, and we can play in such game very long time. We take C-J6 just for test our skills.. and it was a great fun to take it. From ally chat 3 month ago: " - guys, I haven't ammo, and don't want fly to hadoc" " - I think we need storage somewhere here" " - I know a good warehouse, it's a c-j6 station!" " - Damn, it's under coalition control.. let's take it" " - OK, call others" So while you will be in war with RA, you will always need to waste you gametime. You may 24/7 sit in one system keep blocade etc, I just look on your blob and went to sea with my girl and will have a fun. But when you get tired and bored, my friends call me and we get a fun by killing you with even numbers (or even outnumber you). Now, only your arrogance keep it war continues.. and you continue to lose ships and resources. We don't want to destroy coalition, we just having fun killing our enemies. Today it's you.. if you sign NAP, we find another enemies and continue take a fun from game. So this war continue for time when you ll be smarter or for someone attack your home regions (Omist and Tenerifes). In a first part you can gain a strong PVP ally, in a second you gain hell in your rear. CEO.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 06:28:00 - [165] Originally by: LTD THOR from the beginning, before -V- was invading scalding pass, and later during the war with coalitions, they got offered several times a peacful solution/neighbourhood. you red it x times what happend. they laughed in our faces ingame and feeded their propaganda machine outgame.. I look on that peaceful soultion.. as I remember just before Cache and Insmother was attacked. "You are lamo, couse we on the driving seat, so we give you Cache reservation" Before talk to someone try to respect they. You arn't better, higher or smth to humble your opponent. And threats ("we have 40 dreads!", omg we are already surrender) is a wrong tone to talk with RA. As I know last time when we try to find any rational solution to both sides, LV just ignore negotiation. CEO.
Constantinee Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 06:32:00 - [166] Originally by: balrog Quote: You dont see the coalition posting a "WE WON FOR A CHANGE BUT STILL USE STABS" every time they whoop you now do you? But stil you feel the urge to read/reply. So it must be good for something Privet Fargas kak dela? :))))))))) backing up my old alliance matey Want a Cheap sig?
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 07:13:00 - [167] JAG E EN SKINKA!! Let¦s fight ffs.... I¦m bored to death.... BBCODE:
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 07:37:00 - [168] Originally by: Rakull WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference. So ppl who dotn wake up at night just coz their buddies call em to play are just a bunch of lazy casual gamers , mmmmkaaayyy . It called having a RL M8 !! "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.27 07:54:00 - [169] My problem with RA is that there's nobody of the level headed and smart guys left. Only the smacktalkers and plex *****s are left. I miss Hassis, he had the brains to lead RA. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 08:11:00 - [170] Originally by: c0rn1 When we started the war, RA with app 2,000 members occupied 5 regions (detorid, insmother, wicked creek, scalding and cache). Right now the coalition occupies 6 regions with around 10,000 people. Since The5 war vs you was over, the usercount on the server trippled and put a high pressure on the 0.0 regions as well. How long would you think to be able to keep 5 regions with that small amount of people? Detorid, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass were basically deserted regions. True enough. And that is the main reason why we have lost those regions, nor we had any big desire to fight for some of parts them. Originally by: c0rn1 Another thing is that we considered Cache as the home of RA since Insmother was basically the home of CWRA (part of RA but they are gone now) FYI, Insmother was a home to other numerous people and corps, which are still in our alliance. Originally by: c0rn1 If you wanted to expand, you could've easily done that direction geminate which is now abandoned again. Or you could have given us two regions, and expand to Geminate if you wanted so... Originally by: c0rn1 We played fair and got a smack in our face. How would you react? You see pretty well, how we reacted, because in our opinion you didn't play fair. By the way, we have never been rolling out our propaganda mashine, you did. And you are to blame yourself for that, that you made your own people believe that we are weak. Your own people are now paying with their ships and lives due to your own propaganda. Also, you (not you personally of course, I'm refering to some pilots in the Coalition) called us dogs and whatever in local, insulted us on forums, blamed us in all kind of sins, and you expect us just to bend over and take some? Even though, most of us laughed at that as players, as the ingame _characters_ we won't forgive that easily. Originally by: c0rn1 P.S.: The only reason I complain to CCP is because of the imbalanced dynamic reinforcement time. Have you ever thought that this dynamic reinforcement time exist just to give defenders a chance to stay alive in this game? When attacking, you can choose time, and place, and numbers. If something doesn't go according to your plan you can cancel it. When defending, you can't choose your time or place. This is the very reason, why we are still playing game here, and having RL, instead of sitting in EVE every single minute waiting for you attack her or there. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.07.27 08:21:00 - [171] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Rakull WE work as team of dedicated people and you is just a bunch of lazy casual gamers. That's the difference. So ppl who dotn wake up at night just coz their buddies call em to play are just a bunch of lazy casual gamers , mmmmkaaayyy . It called having a RL M8 !! RA have the same number of people on every day. Fight them on a tuesday morning and you get the same numbers as a sunday afternoon/night. Take BoB or LV and you have the core + a lot of Weekend Warriors. It may sound like a derogatory term but its a simple fact. Lazy casual gamers is not really the best choice of words, hes just ****** cause you guys got him riled up.
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 08:23:00 - [172] hmm, Oki so it is only the coalition who smacks.... yeah right, but atleast the coalition smacks in english and not on thier native language BBCODE:
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.27 08:41:00 - [173] Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Nebuli So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Yes, because we're all friends and we have a mutual JOB- EVE. Thats why we can get up at 4AM. 2 c0rn1: WTS a full stabs typhoon Fixed!! MT
Minevra	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:01:00 - [174] Originally by: Major Tarsis Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Nebuli So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Yes, because we're all friends and we have a mutual JOB- EVE. Thats why we can get up at 4AM. 2 c0rn1: WTS a full stabs typhoon Fixed!! OMG - fix u'r stabs The problem with u guys - that you try to FIX us on your terms. And NO EVE is a hobby - a job is for the ebayers (since we don't mine/hunt, and u do - who is ebaing now)
Exus Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:09:00 - [175] according to the RA killboard, even if it isnt accurate, they managed to kill 2 scorps of the coalition. dunno if they was called primary but, the lone RA scorp was still alive at the end of the battle. i repeat i dont know what happened, but scorps MUST DIE !!! :p both sides ^^ good fight tho :) ______________________________ Guristas Powered
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:19:00 - [176] Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Major Tarsis Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Nebuli So colaition forces take the game too seriously, but you ring up alliance pilots to get them up at 4am to come fight because coalitions low on numbers? Yes, because we're all friends and we have a mutual JOB- EVE. Thats why we can get up at 4AM. 2 c0rn1: WTS a full stabs typhoon Fixed!! OMG - fix u'r stabs The problem with u guys - that you try to FIX us on your terms. And NO EVE is a hobby - a job is for the ebayers (since we don't mine/hunt, and u do - who is ebaing now) You sure???? Its called complexing ask in your Alliance about it MT
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:30:00 - [177] Originally by: Major Tarsis You sure???? Its called complexing ask in your Alliance about it Sure? Are you? Or do we destroy your dreads in t1 frigs? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Big Bossu	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:48:00 - [178] Originally by: Pastora Also, you (not you personally of course, I'm refering to some pilots in the Coalition) called us dogs and whatever in local, insulted us on forums, blamed us in all kind of sins, and you expect us just to bend over and take some? Even though, most of us laughed at that as players, as the ingame _characters_ we won't forgive that easily. Fair enough, a lot of coalition pilots smack in local/forums etc. But the russian smack in local has been just as bad...
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.27 10:48:00 - [179] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Major Tarsis You sure???? Its called complexing ask in your Alliance about it Sure? Are you? Or do we destroy your dreads in t1 frigs? No quite sure seen it first hand as well as been told by RA in local. Thanks for your time though MT
RCI DeXTeR REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.27 13:58:00 - [180] Edited by: RCI DeXTeR on 27/07/2006 14:14:49 Edited by: RCI DeXTeR on 27/07/2006 14:12:30 Originally by: Exus according to the RA killboard, even if it isnt accurate, they managed to kill 2 scorps of the coalition. dunno if they was called primary but, the lone RA scorp was still alive at the end of the battle. i repeat i dont know what happened, but scorps MUST DIE !!! :p both sides ^^ good fight tho :) )))) they haven't focused me.. one time apoc and mega fire on me and i must revarp)) screenshots from fight... http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/nwg-6887-mplayerc_2006-07-27_18-07-45-93.jpg http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/nwg-6883-mplayerc_2006-07-27_18-05-25-10.jpg http://newage.gcnet.ru/uploads/nwg-6886-mplayerc_2006-07-27_18-07-13-79.jpg
Crellion	Posted - 2006.07.27 19:09:00 - [181] Edited by: Crellion on 27/07/2006 19:10:13 Originally by: jeriwo Edited by: jeriwo on 25/07/2006 19:43:35 Respect to pilots of coalition that understand one thing - this is a game - not real and having real fun in fight on battlfield instead of crying at forums. GL PS Ye...another farytale - now about "timezone advantage". What wold be next? Any member of Ra login when you sleep is exploit in future may be? Nice try Jabba. Real man. Good job there you made me post in one of these threads after a long time (and hopefully for the last time). He is crying at the forums who is making a thread a day.
portriat	Posted - 2006.07.27 20:19:00 - [182] this thread does not deliever
Zhaine Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.28 22:01:00 - [183] lol at this thread. Gotta say I disagree with most of the RA and coalition posts. . . It's mostly pretty lame smack/bullcrap: RA downplaying their vast losses over the war and terrible current position and coalition making "gameplay" excuses for the fact that we've been off the boil recently and RA have played the game to their advantage and had the better of it since C-J was retaken. Just let it go people. We're gonna be fighting RA one way or another for a long time, and hell after their POS/stations are gone it might even be fun - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Gralgathor Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.29 14:15:00 - [184] F2A is once again in coalition hands, as is its station. That is all.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.29 14:19:00 - [185] to be honest I'd prefer alliances post abit more about whats happaning lie kthis one, I personally enjoy them. It makes eve feel so alive High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
V0rador Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.29 14:21:00 - [186] F2a under control of the coalition system and station.
Knat Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 15:21:00 - [187] Originally by: Papa Digger ...But it's another war now. You grow new RA PVPer generation, and now we choose where and when to strike. This statement always come from people that are outnumbered and outgunned. How about choose to defend your regions ? How about choose to make the same efforts ingame as you do on this forum ? Lets face it - Ra might not be dead, but their days as a 0.0 alliance are soon to be gone.
Gralgathor Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.29 15:35:00 - [188] Personally, my respect for RA has grown significantly over the course of this campaign. Time and again RA has bounced back from a seemingly defeated position. They're dedicated, they make smart use of game mechanics, and they're patient. Some of their PVP'ers are very good. But it's hard to see them fighting their way back to a dominant position. They hold one system now, and how long they can endure is anyone's guess. But you can count on it that it's gonna be a long while before RA throws in the towel, if ever.
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.29 17:24:00 - [189] Edited by: Myal Terego on 29/07/2006 17:27:45 TBH They are doing better than they did with 3x as many people in the alliance, its pretty amazing really. However I think thier tactics, and lack of any honor, is going to be thier downfall in the end. There really is no sympathy for RA, and they have a ridiculous amount of enemies that loathe them. You guys prolly wont give up tho, and I am sure konora / khabi will always be riddled with gank squads and loggofski safespots. I dont however forsee you guys ever being a major south eastern entity anymore. I really do think you should consider taking over Geminate and rebuilding there, and as you grow again, then think about expanding. Least I dont think the coalition would try and take it from you. Fight there im sure, but not pos war you, and try and eliminate you. You could also go up north prolly, sounds like cloud ring might be empty soon, and I hear they have some complexs.
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 18:06:00 - [190] When this happens you will be playing different game already. Wow II or smythng. klik, .... davno pora
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.29 18:24:00 - [191] IT'S ALL RAT.'s FAULT! Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Plutoinum Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 19:19:00 - [192] Originally by: Gralgathor Personally, my respect for RA has grown significantly over the course of this campaign. Time and again RA has bounced back from a seemingly defeated position. They're dedicated, they make smart use of game mechanics, and they're patient. Some of their PVP'ers are very good. True, but RA force some sort of gameplay on us that is not really ours. RA probably hopes that the coalition gives up at some point, because of this. F2A has shown that some of their strategies can be countered without dread losses with ... ? Yes, also dedication and smart use of the game mechanics. That's why we've got the station back. Btw.: I can't give up against RED, even if I wanted to. I have always the territoral map animation from RED vs. [5] in my head. RA was pushed back into Cache and then [5] gave / had to give up. It's a really horrible picture. The old pre-patch sovereignty system that was a lot nastier, than it is now. Now we are in a much better position and if history repeated itself, it would mean that the whole 'work' so far would be wasted. Sorry, but that imagination is even more frightening than another few weeks of boring gate camping.
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.29 22:43:00 - [193] The war against RA is like no other ever played out so far in EVE. I am certain of it. The efforts made on both sides are super human, but there will only be one winner, the time for talking has long since passed. M.Corp BPC Packages
Constantinee Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 04:22:00 - [194] Good job guys Hold your space and finish of c-j already damnit. GET RA OUTTA THERE! Want a Cheap sig?
Raeff Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 06:04:00 - [195] C-J will be quite the battle im sure .. like cornering a wolverine and none of your guys have a gun .. id bet they got a ton of equipment in there .. in the end though, the station will be Coalition held, its just a matter of how well they can dig in, and for how long
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.30 08:25:00 - [196] Originally by: Velios The war against RA is like no other ever played out so far in EVE. I am certain of it. The efforts made on both sides are super human, but there will only be one winner, the time for talking has long since passed. hello velios. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.30 20:40:00 - [197] Originally by: V0rador F2a under control of the coalition system and station. GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA ))))))))))))))lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE)
Guderian Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.30 21:32:00 - [198] Originally by: MACTEP Originally by: V0rador F2a under control of the coalition system and station. GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA ))))))))))))))lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE) Could you possibly be anymore bitter and sad to listen to. You talk about EVE being a game, but your hate and frustation shines through your posts so badly. Chill out and read your own line out loud: "just be happy and enjoy your EVE". "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond."
Yakti	Posted - 2006.07.30 22:25:00 - [199] RA, time to go back to Jita and do some escrow scams! And, ending with your slogan : Da Vodka Ebay Perestroijka !!!
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.30 22:26:00 - [200] Originally by: MACTEP Originally by: V0rador F2a under control of the coalition system and station. GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA ))))))))))))))lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE) Hmm RA make an ENTIRE thread about taking F2a... MACTEP appears happy about that....Coalition pilot post a REPLY in the same THREAD and MACTEP now seems upset/bitter about it.... Hmm ... MT
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.30 22:49:00 - [201] Originally by: Major Tarsis Originally by: MACTEP Originally by: V0rador F2a under control of the coalition system and station. GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA ))))))))))))))lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE) Hmm RA make an ENTIRE thread about taking F2a... MACTEP appears happy about that....Coalition pilot post a REPLY in the same THREAD and MACTEP now seems upset/bitter about it.... Hmm ... i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.30 23:58:00 - [202] Originally by: MACTEP GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? Hihihi...Mac. Thought you bring better statements. Originally by: MACTEP coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA )))))))))))))) The Coalition have more members. Yes. But i can say why. We dont have our miners alts and ISK making members/corps in empire. We have them in our alliances. I see a 800 member Red Alliance but 1000ish RA miners/alt corps in empire. Originally by: MACTEP lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) We can. But we dont want. Ask yourself why. Originally by: MACTEP ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE) Now F2A...tomorrow N7-...in 2 days P7-. But better to have it. I see your towers there for nothing. POS spam 4TW and many fuel. But dont forget.... C-J6 in 1 week? Enjoy your EvE life....Mac Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Archonon Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 00:11:00 - [203] Originally by: Light Darkness The Coalition have more members. Yes. But i can say why. We dont have our miners alts and ISK making members/corps in empire. We have them in our alliances. I see a 800 member Red Alliance but 1000ish RA miners/alt corps in empire. Regards /LD U have more member because u don't have member in empire making isk ? humm are u jocking ? check ur allieS list u'll find an good answer. Oh and about RA's alt i thought they were all in RAT. it's what u said some mounth ago ... _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.31 01:12:00 - [204] Originally by: Archonon Originally by: Light Darkness The Coalition have more members. Yes. But i can say why. We dont have our miners alts and ISK making members/corps in empire. We have them in our alliances. I see a 800 member Red Alliance but 1000ish RA miners/alt corps in empire. Regards /LD U have more member because u don't have member in empire making isk ? humm are u jocking ? check ur allieS list u'll find an good answer. Oh and about RA's alt i thought they were all in RAT. it's what u said some mounth ago ... We have members making ISK in empire. But they stay in V (i speak for V only). And no. I dont joke. And cause SEC XIII. They are good pvp pilots and they fought. About RAT everyone know them. About RA and the war. Nobody can win or loose a war with only POSes. Its a timeplay. Not more. Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Rover Vitesse Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.31 01:17:00 - [205] Originally by: MACTEP Originally by: V0rador F2a under control of the coalition system and station. GUYS you DID IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaaaaaaaa you are the best!!!!!!!! can you show smthng else? coalition has so many pilots and cap ships can they show smthng intresting in future? or you will all life fight vs dead RA ))))))))))))))lollll guys i think can more then retake f2a- ) ........in future ....... after 2 years......coalition retake f2a- again )))))))gj again ))))))just be happy and enjoy your EvE) You Sir, are a very sad individual. Take a bite of the sht sandwich, get back in your ship, and bring it. Rovers Chronicles
The Slayer Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 02:45:00 - [206] Edited by: The Slayer on 31/07/2006 02:49:38 Wow Ive never read a thread full of so many whiners. Seriously, coalalition CEOS make your pilots stop sounding like whiney little *****es please, its embarrassing. Also - GO US! F2A is ours again. Mactep why you so upset son? We took back what you stold and post in a thread you made to brag about it and you fling the rattle out of the pram? Nice and mature mate. Also Nice try with P7 tonight! Really clever :) __________________________________ Your Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Estamel Tharchon, wrecking for 187.6 damage.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.31 07:28:00 - [207] Pfff, dudes, chill down yourselves. Are you blind or something?! Or have you brainwashed yourselves so well that you expect to see only whinage, bitterness, whatever in our posts?! :) MACTEP was just really happy for you, but you took it all wrong. :/ What's wrong with you, people? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Kha1n Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 08:03:00 - [208] LOLka coalition are dreamers ))))
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.31 08:56:00 - [209] ... and soon RA has NO stations, so yes, we are dreamers :) (and you will have no more sleep soon planning your POSSPAM again) -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 09:17:00 - [210] Just take it from me I'm just as free as any daughter; I do what I like, just when I like, and how I love it. I'm right here to stay, till I'm old and gray--I'll be right in my prime. Living in the sunlight, loving in the moonlight, having a wonderful time. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:01:00 - [211] Ya Nebba, Pass the joint round to me mate, sharing is good.
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:11:00 - [212] Originally by: Velios Ya Nebba, Pass the joint round to me mate, sharing is good. ya man. don't fear me. pass it here too Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.31 11:38:00 - [213] Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat Life's a waste of time ...
Pride NL Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.31 14:39:00 - [214] Originally by: Velios Ya Nebba, Pass the joint round to me mate, sharing is good. sharing is caring?
Burlock Ironfist Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.31 14:46:00 - [215] Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! or he shares his account... isnt that a banable offence? "opinions our my own thank you very much"
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.31 15:35:00 - [216] Originally by: Burlock Ironfist Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! or he shares his account... isnt that a banable offence? no way to prove, so better not make accusations
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.31 15:37:00 - [217] Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! Or maybe lend? We do this often. Everyone uses my account to flame on forums. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Sir Juri Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 16:40:00 - [218] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! Or maybe lend? We do this often. Everyone uses my account to flame on forums. That is actually not to bright to advertise... damn need to make a new sig...
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.31 17:42:00 - [219] Originally by: Sir Juri Originally by: Omeega Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! Or maybe lend? We do this often. Everyone uses my account to flame on forums. That is actually not to bright to advertise... Yes. My account is special, all RAT. members learn english entering my login and password. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Trembler Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.31 19:39:00 - [220] This thread has ran its course. Shame on you n00bs for dissing MACTEP (who has over 1800 involveds). This war has been going for a long time. In my humble opinion, the coalition are, indeed, dreamers if they think the war will "just end". Enjoy your game. We know we are better. You know you are better. Yes, we will be publishing informative "propaganda" threads in the future as well.
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 19:58:00 - [221] Omeega, I need to learn better english, can I borrow your account?? Please mail me your accont info Why is it oki for 1 side to be happy and the other side not to be happy?? Lower your smacking guard and take a cold beer instead, I promise you, you will enjoy it. And about smacking old Macie.. he litterly sold himself like a cheap h****** from munish with that post. So he basiclly asked for it, even if it is kinda low, but as you make your bed you have to lay.. (som man bSddar fsr man ligga, F÷rs÷k bSttre sjSlva fan) And if I know LV right we got like 4 wars so who says LV just fights ra? And how many wars got -v-??? Please wake up aswell BBCODE:
Dearwin Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.31 22:59:00 - [222] Please Daddy... Make the bad forum thread go away...
Nebuli Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 02:07:00 - [223] Good point above, V have had other wars and have been on several "road trips" as well CEO - Art of War Best idea ever
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.08.01 06:49:00 - [224] Originally by: Ace Frehley And if I know LV right we got like 4 wars so who says LV just fights ra? And how many wars got -v-??? Please wake up aswell Curiously... And Whom do u fighting now? ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
ZaKma Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:14:00 - [225] Originally by: Obivan Efa Originally by: Ace Frehley And if I know LV right we got like 4 wars so who says LV just fights ra? And how many wars got -v-??? Please wake up aswell Curiously... And Whom do u fighting now? Night Elves. --- This post represents my personal opinion, and in no way my alliance or corporation. I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Gralgathor Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:41:00 - [226] Originally by: ZaKma Originally by: Obivan Efa Originally by: Ace Frehley And if I know LV right we got like 4 wars so who says LV just fights ra? And how many wars got -v-??? Please wake up aswell Curiously... And Whom do u fighting now? Night Elves. For the horde!! Ehm...
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:47:00 - [227] Ha-ha... So ur 4 "other not RA" wars are in World of warcraft? Just as I thought... ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
Omeega Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:47:00 - [228] Originally by: Ace Frehley Omeega, I need to learn better english, can I borrow your account?? Please mail me your accont info Why is it oki for 1 side to be happy and the other side not to be happy?? Lower your smacking guard and take a cold beer instead, I promise you, you will enjoy it. And about smacking old Macie.. he litterly sold himself like a cheap h****** from munish with that post. So he basiclly asked for it, even if it is kinda low, but as you make your bed you have to lay.. (som man bSddar fsr man ligga, F÷rs÷k bSttre sjSlva fan) And if I know LV right we got like 4 wars so who says LV just fights ra? And how many wars got -v-??? Please wake up aswell you wanna borrow my acc :? What for :~? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Yakti	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:01:00 - [229] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:31:00 - [230] if you so churios why don¦t you look up what wars LV has BBCODE:
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:17:00 - [231] Originally by: Ace Frehley if you so churios why don¦t you look up what wars LV has According to your killboard main war of Ace Frehley - war on forums. --------------------
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.01 23:10:00 - [232] Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: MACTEP i don t play eve during 2 weeks and it does me happy so I look at everything outside You didn't? [ 2006.07.28 00:59:14 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II hits MACTEP [SDG]<RED>(Apocalypse), doing 220.6 damage. Someone must've hacked your account then! )))) 30 minutes in a day...1 time per a week I do not count it playing eve...that what i mean) it is enough to look on killboard to understand as far as a man plays actively
Ace Frehley Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.02 05:47:00 - [233] I wounder why?? Maybe cuz I¦m about to change corp??? Or you maybe dident know?? BBCODE:

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