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K Shara Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 12:41:00 - [31] part of the issue, is that ccp dont want people to be able to id a bs from their size on teh overview. which is stupid give eavh ship a unique size, if you have memory enough to know that the ship 532m lon is a scorp and the 800m long is teh apoc, and the 612m long is the raven, etc rather than bs's =500m apoc =800m <><><><><><><><><> Contraband hpookde is so a word !!!!!!!! <><><><><><><><><>
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:08:00 - [32] Originally by: Helenae Considering the caldari carrier is the same size of the apoc, it would be ridiculous if the tiers 3 BS is longer than the carrier capital ship Very true, hence... Originally by: Helenae Or resize them both ?... DING DING DING DING! WE HAAAVE A WINNER! ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here! Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:18:00 - [33] The Chimera needs to be fixed first.
Murukan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:19:00 - [34] does ship size really matter at all? Or does having a smaller ship make your e-peen go limp? In rust we trust!!!
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:20:00 - [35] They're a tad on the small side, but what the Caldari BS's lack in length, they make up for in width and in the Scorpion's case, a little bit of height. It makes for quite a disappointing side profile, but I have a feeling the overall surface area is somewhat the same. The Rokh looks like a standard lenghty BS, so I don't see any reason it would be smaller than the others. The Chimera though... that needs to be fixed. ____________________________
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:20:00 - [36] Originally by: Murukan does ship size really matter at all? Or does having a smaller ship make your e-peen go limp? Despite actually being an advantage, yes. It does. I hate it
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Murukan does ship size really matter at all? Or does having a smaller ship make your e-peen go limp? the chimera "center" is behind the rear. although in the game it does nothing, it looks like complete crap when shooting at it or just when flying it. it's an annoyance.
Laboratus Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:25:00 - [38] Now what is wierd, is the fact that caldari ships have the biggest sig radius of all Battleships. That means they should have the biggest target profiles. And they leak the most radiation. It's wierd really. Mind control and tin hats
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Murukan does ship size really matter at all? Or does having a smaller ship make your e-peen go limp? In real life, no. But when you're playing a game, and you buy a $200 or $300 video card to play this game then you obviously want some cool graphics proportionate to the cool price. It's nothing about e-peen, but about satisfaction you get when playing the game. I mean, wouldn't you care if suddenly CCP decided they were going to make EVE a text-based game for Minmatar pilots? A good part of the reason I play is because the graphics in EVE, although dated, are pretty damn awesome, and when you have weird anomalies like the size of the Chimera, then something just seems wrong. ____________________________
Tsanse Kinske Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Laboratus Now what is wierd, is the fact that caldari ships have the biggest sig radius of all Battleships. That means they should have the biggest target profiles. And they leak the most radiation. It's wierd really. Please fix the sizes so that people stop noticing this. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:32:00 - [41] Edited by: James Lyrus on 26/07/2006 21:33:18 You forgot the Chimera :). And yes, I could cope with smaller battleships, if they had stats to reflect this. Compare the stats block of Scorpion with the stats block of the Megathron. Pay particular attention to mass, signature radius and volume. Then fly one up to the other in game, and you'll see what I mean. I don't mind having the heavy ships, as long as they're also the biggest ships. (Actually, that's a lie, I'd much prefer to fly something that _didn't_ fly like a brick, but size reflecting mass is an acceptable substitute)
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Pentagany I hope the Rokh is small. I'd rather be riding a small one packed with technology than a big hulking hunk of metal that looks like a car straight out of the '70s. Well, I want to fly a muscle car, so leave it out
Pentagany Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:35:00 - [43] I hope the Rokh is small. I'd rather be riding a small one packed with technology than a big hulking hunk of metal that looks like a car straight out of the '70s.
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:36:00 - [44] Originally by: Imode what the Caldari BS's lack in length, they make up for [...] in the Scorpion's case, a little bit of height. Not at all. Originally by: Imode I have a feeling the overall surface area is somewhat the same. It's volume that's the issue, not surface area. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here! Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Double TaP The Establishment	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:43:00 - [45] Make motherships and (probably) titans bigger. Their models are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too small for what they are supposed to be capable of holding.
wrtjhsrtj	Posted - 2006.07.26 21:44:00 - [46] I think it's just rediculous the small size of caldari ships, considering them also having the higest mass. Looking at the picture below, ccp is telling me both of those ships each have a greater mass then the one above, thats absurd. The raven should at least be resized to what I have done so, so that the huge mass and sig radius actually makes sense. Size comparison and fix
Auldare S.A.S	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:07:00 - [47] long long time ago, caldari ships mass and agility were in line with their size but when a scorp/blackbird was fitted full meds of mwds they went crazy speeds, this was also true with other cald ships. So with that caldari were given a general mass nerf to all ships. I think originally mass went like Amarr-Gallente-Minmatar-Caldari, minmatar ships were faster in general though. This was to fit in line with who armour/shield tanks and back story. So in all the reason for the mass nerf of caldari ships is now obselete with current game mechanics. It never got changed back cause people got used to it and 'forgot' why it was nerfed in the first place ================================================
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:16:00 - [48] Originally by: Keta Min The ship scale is not broken at all! oh man scorp is os small tbh i realy want to see rokh at least mega size join col ! now
aeti	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:29:00 - [49] somebody gimme a link to any pictures of this ship :\
Dahak2150	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Keta Min The ship scale is not broken at all! Well, that settles it. Never flying a scorp.
Pwyle Kenobi Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 00:09:00 - [51] Edited by: Pwyle Kenobi on 27/07/2006 00:15:26 Originally by: aeti somebody gimme a link to any pictures of this ship :\ Rokh Concept Art EDIT: Don't make the Scorp bigger! It's butt-ugly and that's not going to be helped by making the model larger. The Rokh should definitely be apoc/machariel size.
Kilpelainen FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.27 00:15:00 - [52] This tread proves something. Caldari tier 3 BS needs to be nerfed as these caldari scum have nothing better to whine about. ***
Sovereign533 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 01:29:00 - [53] i would say the Rokh should be small, a bit bigger then the Scorp... so pilots of other races have something to laugh about... and about the large sig radius compared to it's size... well all the Caldari ships use shield tanking... and if you look at the shield extender attributes you see that it increases the signature radius... (but an old nerf could also be trough... not that old...) --------------------------------------------- Creation of the Human race, Power to overwhelm and Destroy... A product of effort and grace... The feeling of helplessness is your best friend savage.
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.07.27 01:33:00 - [54] tanking a tempest, apoc and mega in a ship half their size is kinda fun tbh ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:06:00 - [55] Originally by: Sovereign533 i would say the Rokh should be small, a bit bigger then the Scorp... so pilots of other races have something to laugh about... Oh go away already. Originally by: Outa Rileau tanking a tempest, apoc and mega in a ship half their size is kinda fun tbh I don't find it fun, I find it rather insulting. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here! Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Nyxus GALAXIAN	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:10:00 - [56] And on the 8th day, God himself doth proclaim..... Thy Rokh shalt not be larger than my giant golden phallus!!!11! Sorry, but God's Word is Law. Listen, you Caldari have missiles, ewar, and now an 8 turret bs. That's pretty darn good by anyone standards. I am sorry that your "chariot" just doesn't "swing low" enough. Nyxus PS - If you think the Apoc is impressive you should have seen the drawings for the Amarrian pope-hat BS that someone drew up. THAT was an impressive flying religious temple. Too bad it didn't make it ingame. Wish I had saved it. Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
Nemain Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:21:00 - [57] Edited by: Nemain on 27/07/2006 02:21:44 If my memory serves me correctly, way back (probably around 2003-2004) one of the devs, probably Tomb, said they were the wrong size and should be amoung the biggest ships. That being the case, if I didn't imagine it, along with a shed load of other graphical defects (messed up textures, floating turrets, disjointed or squewed ship parts etc) it never got fixed. Whenever, anyone mentions that size doesn't count I always remember Anger Management. When Adam Sadler asks the 2 women if they think that size matters, and gets the response "we disagree in this, I like them big, she likes them massive"
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Nyxus And on the 8th day, God himself doth proclaim..... Thy Rokh shalt not be larger than my giant golden phallus!!!11! Sorry, but God's Word is Law. I never said anything about it being BIGGER. That would be cool and all, but realistically it should just be the same size as the Armageddon and Megathron. ------------------ Originally by: kieron Buy ISK for RL cash here! Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Mastoras Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:42:00 - [59] I agree, Caldari BS are way to small. Just a few weeks ago i tried out an Amarr Armegeddon. Ok i bought it, and when i activated it, i almost fell of my chair. I couldnt believe how big it was. The entire front side of the ship took the whole screen inside the station. I said to myself, damnit! Now thats a battleship! And the others ones too, geddon, apoc, domi, minmatar ones, all BIG. Caldari are so small, its pathetic. I mean can u imagine a Naval Battleship today being dwarfed by a Naval Cruiser ship? Its just not how it works. CCP, now that you updated the ENTIRE graphics of EVE, this is your best time to fix some of these annoying things. P.S. While your at it, get rid of the flicking textures from Amarr stations.......thx.
Rac'gev Satal's Legion	Posted - 2006.07.27 02:51:00 - [60] I haven't had a chance for a first-person comparison of the BS sizes lately, but from the picture's you all have given, there's way too much of a difference between the races- part of the way ships are classified are by size, and I don't think that different races' interpretations of "Big enough to be a battleship" would be all that different. What I have been able to compare is having my caracal being as long as a ferox. That just does not work. _______________________________________________ You do not have the required skills to do that. To create a signature requires having learned the following skills: Sense of Humor level 1.

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