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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:08:00 -
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<3 the Maelstrom, but would it please be possible to reassure us that it's going to get enough midslots (i.e. 7) to be used properly. 8/7/4 would be lovely if you're going to stick with the same amount of slots, if not 8/7/5.
There are a lot of Caldari moaners saying it should be 8/6/5 or 8/6/6, but my reasoning is that if the Rokh is a giant Ferox and the Maelstrom is a giant Cyclone, they should have the same amount of midslots both at the Battlecruiser and Battleship level. Turning it into 8/6/5 or 8/6/6 will result in either a poor shield tank or a poor armour tank + crap loads of Ewar.
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
8/6/6 please Tuxie because you are sexy. 
Ignore her, she decieved the entire EVE community!!!
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/07/2006 11:12:08
Originally by: Jon Hawkes
unless they change the EW system, if they give it 7 midslots you can expect people to jam it to the gills with ECM, not a tank 
Which they are changing. Also, how is it any different from people doing it on Caldari ships?
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Shhhh!!!! We want 7 mids and 37.5% or nothing!!
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Look at Caldari ship models. So many antennas i.e. those sharp long pointy bling bling shafts.
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Change shield bonus and il be happy, cant believe u think just cus ur going to say Dear Tuxford in title your guna get your point across more than others, theres a maelstrom thread sarmaul
I was hoping it would have the same effect as the "Dear Keiron" thread yesterday :P
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/07/2006 11:38:24
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
a shieldtanking bonus + 7 medslots would be kinda overpowered, dont u think sarmaul?.
tux alrdy stated that this ship is gonna bost more then any other noncapital ship,
givin it 7 meds on top of that + good dmg would overdo it by far.
MWD, Web, 20km, Cap Booster leaves you a 3 slot tank (xl booster, 2 invuls and the boost bonus from the ship). If you have lots of tacklers you get a 5 slot tank (still need the speed mod for range/bubbles and cap injector to sustain the tank).
It needs to use all 8 turrets to out-dps the tempest, making nos a bit of a no-no unless you want to totally gimp your damage output.
For NPCing, the Raven, Phoon and Domi will still be better as it's not shield tanking that's 4tw, it's always doing full damage to NPCs without having to move your ship much.
ECM is getting nerfed.
Erm... I think that's about it. Boosting an extra 7.5% over a regular shield tank doesn't mean it should be gimped in slots.
8/7/4 or it will be useless.
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dethis
Ravens not a shield tank o.O
I think he means the Raven isn't a dedicated shield tanker, i.e. had no talking bonuses unlike the Maelstrom and Rokh
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Posted - 2006.07.26 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
im sorry but a 8/7/5 slot would jsut be too uber, why? Would make it into a raven basiclly with guns.
Whats wrong with this?
high slots: guns
med slots: UBER TANK
low slots: 3x dmg mods with cpu n ****
a ganking mother******* tanking ship.
no thank you
You forgot the part where it can't hit anything moving faster than a tutle due to no web, and that it needs a speed mod to get into damage range as unlike the raven it doesn't do full damage with close-range guns out to 45+km, the cap booster is definatly needed as it won't be able to run nos without ruining it's damage output and a warp scrambler is generally needed to stop targets from running away.
So that's Web (1 slot), Speed (2 slots), Cap Booster (3 slots), Scrambler (4 slots). If you can come up with a good tank for 2 slots that doesn't use faction gear I would love to see it.
The main reason people don't take shield tanks into PVP are
1) Because ECM is overpowered
2) Because most ships don't have the slots to do it
The first point is being fixed, and the second requires that ships that are supported to be dedicated shield tankers get the slots to do it properly.
I don't see anyone *****ing that the Rokh can fit blasters and a huge shield tank and get high range and pretty good damage, so why all the hate towards the Maelstrom?
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Posted - 2006.07.26 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kery Nysell
Whoa, someone even more clueless than me ...
FYI, the Raven IS a shield tanker, and a damn good one at that, and the future Tier 3 BS will need a speed booster and maybe a webber, since it will use turrets and not missiles ...
Read what has already been posted in this thread - it's pretty obvious he means it isn't a dedicated shield tanker like the Rokh and Maelstrom (i.e. no shield tanking bonuses).
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Posted - 2006.07.26 12:12:00 -
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a proper tanked arti platform would be nice too, seeing as Caldari get their tanked rail platform :)
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Posted - 2006.07.27 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Amy Wang
Originally by: nahtoh
I do think 7 meds is pushing it, you already get a free boast amp with BS lvl5...
Well, Rohk is getting a free invul. field, so whats your point again?
Great so 7 mids for it as well then? After all someone may want to fit blasters on it. That work for you?
I would me more than happy for the Rokh to get 7 mids so long as the Maelstrom gets the same.
The Rokh is a giant Ferox, the Maelstrom a giant cyclone. Why are they allowed the same amount of midslots at the battlecruiser level but not at the battleship level?
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