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Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/07/2006 11:09:44 8/6/6 if 20 slots, 8/6/5 if 19 slots please Tuxie because you are sexy. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:08:00 - [2] <3 the Maelstrom, but would it please be possible to reassure us that it's going to get enough midslots (i.e. 7) to be used properly. 8/7/4 would be lovely if you're going to stick with the same amount of slots, if not 8/7/5. There are a lot of Caldari moaners saying it should be 8/6/5 or 8/6/6, but my reasoning is that if the Rokh is a giant Ferox and the Maelstrom is a giant Cyclone, they should have the same amount of midslots both at the Battlecruiser and Battleship level. Turning it into 8/6/5 or 8/6/6 will result in either a poor shield tank or a poor armour tank + crap loads of Ewar. Love, Team Minmatar & Various Other Whingers TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:09:00 - [3] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 8/6/6 please Tuxie because you are sexy. Ignore her, she decieved the entire EVE community!!! TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:10:00 - [4] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire 8/6/6 please Tuxie because you are sexy. No, it needs 7 med slots. Go away. And if it gets 6 low slots, I really think the bonus should be to cap recharge instead so pilots can CHOOSE weather to armor tank or shield tank this boat. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:12:00 - [5] Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/07/2006 11:12:08 Originally by: Jon Hawkes unless they change the EW system, if they give it 7 midslots you can expect people to jam it to the gills with ECM, not a tank Which they are changing. Also, how is it any different from people doing it on Caldari ships? TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Jim McGregor Shhhh!!!! We want 7 mids and 37.5% or nothing!! TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Jon Hawkes ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:12:00 - [7] unless they change the EW system, if they give it 7 midslots you can expect people to jam it to the gills with ECM, not a tank
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Jon Hawkes unless they change the EW system, if they give it 7 midslots you can expect people to jam it to the gills with ECM, not a tank ECM is hopefully getting fixed. It sucks that having many medium slots will give you a pwnmobile just because multispectrals are so good. But they are working on it. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:14:00 - [9] Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/07/2006 11:12:08 Originally by: Jon Hawkes unless they change the EW system, if they give it 7 midslots you can expect people to jam it to the gills with ECM, not a tank Which they are changing. Also, how is it any different from people doing it on Caldari ships? Look at Caldari ship models. So many antennas i.e. those sharp long pointy bling bling shafts. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:15:00 - [10] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/07/2006 11:15:58 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Jim McGregor Shhhh!!!! We want 7 mids and 37.5% or nothing!! Im not sure. Wouldnt mind 37.5% to cap recharge instead so i can armor tank this boat... it would be amazing in solo pvp. But hey, these posts are really not needed. Its not like Tux will take a look at them and say "Yeah, we didnt think of that, good idea". --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Look at Caldari ship models. So many antennas i.e. those sharp long pointy bling bling shafts. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
kessah Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:17:00 - [12] Change shield bonus and il be happy, cant believe u think just cus ur going to say Dear Tuxford in title your guna get your point across more than others, theres a maelstrom thread sarmaul -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate
EvilNate Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:18:00 - [13] The pic of the Maelstrom in the E-ON has a caption "Looks like the Minmatard finnaly got it right". Now, I like to over analise things So could this mean they are making it a proper Shield ship, ie loads of mids and a few lows, not like the tempest, where it can actualy armour tank. But it is looking sexy Nate.
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:19:00 - [14] Originally by: kessah Change shield bonus and il be happy, cant believe u think just cus ur going to say Dear Tuxford in title your guna get your point across more than others, theres a maelstrom thread sarmaul I was hoping it would have the same effect as the "Dear Keiron" thread yesterday :P TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: kessah Change shield bonus and il be happy, cant believe u think just cus ur going to say Dear Tuxford in title your guna get your point across more than others, theres a maelstrom thread sarmaul I was hoping it would have the same effect as the "Dear Keiron" thread yesterday :P Well, its definently filled with some of the same people. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sunetra	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:21:00 - [16] Meh it should be 8/4/4 I think, to make it 'balanaced' I'm just bitter about the Hyperion :( Sunetra
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:22:00 - [17] a shieldtanking bonus + 7 medslots would be kinda overpowered, dont u think sarmaul?. tux alrdy stated that this ship is gonna bost more then any other noncapital ship, givin it 7 meds on top of that + good dmg would overdo it by far. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Sunetra Meh it should be 8/4/4 I think, to make it 'balanaced' I'm just bitter about the Hyperion :( Sunetra Killing maelstroms on the test server will make you feel better. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sunetra	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Sunetra Meh it should be 8/4/4 I think, to make it 'balanaced' I'm just bitter about the Hyperion :( Sunetra Killing maelstroms on the test server will make you feel better. Yup got some decent Blasterthon and Vampdomi Setups on SISI to try out against the new ships. Sunetra.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists a shieldtanking bonus + 7 medslots would be kinda overpowered, dont u think sarmaul?. tux alrdy stated that this ship is gonna bost more then any other noncapital ship, givin it 7 meds on top of that + good dmg would overdo it by far. I think it has the worst damage of all the new battleships. I can only hope it will be good at tanking to make up for it. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:37:00 - [21] Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/07/2006 11:38:24 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists a shieldtanking bonus + 7 medslots would be kinda overpowered, dont u think sarmaul?. tux alrdy stated that this ship is gonna bost more then any other noncapital ship, givin it 7 meds on top of that + good dmg would overdo it by far. MWD, Web, 20km, Cap Booster leaves you a 3 slot tank (xl booster, 2 invuls and the boost bonus from the ship). If you have lots of tacklers you get a 5 slot tank (still need the speed mod for range/bubbles and cap injector to sustain the tank). It needs to use all 8 turrets to out-dps the tempest, making nos a bit of a no-no unless you want to totally gimp your damage output. For NPCing, the Raven, Phoon and Domi will still be better as it's not shield tanking that's 4tw, it's always doing full damage to NPCs without having to move your ship much. ECM is getting nerfed. Erm... I think that's about it. Boosting an extra 7.5% over a regular shield tank doesn't mean it should be gimped in slots. 8/7/4 or it will be useless. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:52:00 - [22] Indeed. If we're to be 'the race that can do either', then some of our ships need to be capable of doing one or the other. We have two ships already that can only really armour tank effectively (and the Tempest's 5/6 slot layout has never been fabulous). We recently got some ships that have more mids than lows (yay, Tier 2 BCs) which was a step in the right direction. Hopefully it'll carry on with the Maelstrom. And let's remember; although it may boost more than a non capital ship, it's still a Minmatar boat and will likely not have all that great a cap. With shield tanks already being tough to sustain without truly dedicated setups, it's going to be even tougher for us. Also don't forget, that EW should be fixed with the release of these ships, so all you people who want to argue against this on the grounds that we'll have an uber EW boat needn't bother. Anyway. 8/7/4 or 8/7/5 ftw. Let's give us some variety and make the ship as much fun as it looks! [center] Originally by: Lord Violent EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid being catered to by devs, as they lack ability to kill/survive anything. http://tinyurl.com/lgpnsScraphe
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:52:00 - [23] im sorry but a 8/7/5 slot would jsut be too uber, why? Would make it into a raven basiclly with guns. Whats wrong with this? high slots: guns med slots: UBER TANK low slots: 3x dmg mods with cpu n ** a ganking mother***** tanking ship. no thank you High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Sonos SAGD Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:54:00 - [24] People are just mad that the Minnies will finally have a ship that everyone wants. Even though i am currently an armor tanker this is making me start my shield tank project much much sooner please give us a 8/7/4-5-6 setup ill give you isk and all the quafe,exotic danceres and tobacco you want ----------------------------------------------- I lost 5 sp of skill trainning time during the last patch an i demand that ccp refund it to me
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Dethis Ravens not a shield tank o.O I think he means the Raven isn't a dedicated shield tanker, i.e. had no talking bonuses unlike the Maelstrom and Rokh TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Dethis Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:55:00 - [26] Edited by: Dethis on 26/07/2006 11:55:51 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Dethis Ravens not a shield tank o.O I think he means the Raven isn't a dedicated shield tanker, i.e. had no talking bonuses unlike the Maelstrom and Rokh Ahh that would make sense. 8/7/4 wouldnt be to bad as long as cpu/pg wouldnt allow you to fit tank + gank -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
davidwelsh Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:56:00 - [27] Now for the important questions... Anyone know where this thing will fit build requirement wise? More mins than a pest? Less mins than a phoon? Somewhere in between? The same as either? Estimated price for BPO? less than phoon? more than pest? somewhere in between?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Kaeten im sorry but a 8/7/5 slot would jsut be too uber, why? Would make it into a raven basiclly with guns. Whats wrong with this? high slots: guns med slots: UBER TANK low slots: 3x dmg mods with cpu n ** a ganking mother***** tanking ship. no thank you So a faster megathron with huge dps is not a big problem at all, but this ship is a real threat? LOL. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Kaeten im sorry but a 8/7/5 slot would jsut be too uber, why? Would make it into a raven basiclly with guns. Whats wrong with this? high slots: guns med slots: UBER TANK low slots: 3x dmg mods with cpu n ** a ganking mother*** tanking ship. no thank you Wait - so you're saying, it's fine for the Raven to be able to gank and tank, but not for anyone else? Gank and tank isn't a result of a badly designed ship. All shield tank ships can mount damage mods etc in their lows. That's the way it is. Much how lowslot oriented ships get to use an armour tank and EW. Really, what's the problem? [center] Originally by:** Lord Violent EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid being catered to by devs, as they lack ability to kill/survive anything. http://tinyurl.com/lgpnsScraphe
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.26 11:58:00 - [30] Originally by: Kaeten im sorry but a 8/7/5 slot would jsut be too uber, why? Would make it into a raven basiclly with guns. Whats wrong with this? high slots: guns med slots: UBER TANK low slots: 3x dmg mods with cpu n ** a ganking mother*** tanking ship. no thank you You forgot the part where it can't hit anything moving faster than a tutle due to no web, and that it needs a speed mod to get into damage range as unlike the raven it doesn't do full damage with close-range guns out to 45+km, the cap booster is definatly needed as it won't be able to run nos without ruining it's damage output and a warp scrambler is generally needed to stop targets from running away. So that's Web (1 slot), Speed (2 slots), Cap Booster (3 slots), Scrambler (4 slots). If you can come up with a good tank for 2 slots that doesn't use faction gear I would love to see it. The main reason people don't take shield tanks into PVP are 1) Because ECM is overpowered 2) Because most ships don't have the slots to do it The first point is being fixed, and the second requires that ships that are supported to be dedicated shield tankers get the slots to do it properly. I don't see anyone ***ing that the Rokh can fit blasters and a huge shield tank and get high range and pretty good damage, so why all the hate towards the Maelstrom? TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -

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