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Jitamule Momaki
Taxes are for losers
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:20:00 -
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Why are you all so unquestioningly ok with high sec ganking? i get the "Emergent" game play crap everyone spues but high sec is ment to be at least partly "Safe" with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession".
i've been surfing around the fourms looking for a reason and all i see is Fourm post. where CCP Falcon spues the same crap that everyother troll does in this game. Im starting to get the impression CCP is full of Troll's and nothing but, Considering how little they regard high sec gank targets.
im sure im going to get flamed out for this but.
in referance to the link i posted you can't dock and be cloaked at the same time so if someones waiting at the station a bit off your landing spot when you warp to 0 on a station in an Instalock Nado how is that not at least partly an exploit? there is no way you can be truly "safe" in high sec when these types of tactic's are used. i personally have been a victim of this almost exploit.
Viator attempting to dock at Jita gets instapoped by a instalock nado, ganker loot scoops and makes 30m profit while im out 600m
im sure im going to get called a carebear or w\e else you guys think of but i honestly would like a serious responce about this. i understand that high sec isn't 110% safe and its not ment to be but as of lately its been safer to be out in Low or Null ffs.
another question kinda off topic but why is it that if you destroy someone else's wreak you get concorded? why does Concord care about wreaks? how does destroying a wreak warrent a Concorduken to the face? i would understand suspect but wtf concord? |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:21:00 -
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Deal with it.
That's how the game works.
Get ready to get flooded with wardecs.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:22:00 -
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This thread is about pizza.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:23:00 -
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My favourite pizza is the victim type pizza.
It's a quaddro formaggio with spinach, an egg in the middle and salty tears for flavour.
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
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Jitamule Momaki
Taxes are for losers
Twilight Imperium
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:24:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Deal with it.
That's how the game works.
Get ready to get flooded with wardecs.
Thank you for your extreamly insightful responce
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:25:00 -
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Dude... look up words before you use them.
This thread has no point. If you don't get the game then get lost.
I will check the wardec cost of your ****** alliance and tell everyone i know
to make sure you learn how the game works.
Are we clear, victim?
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:27:00 -
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Welcome to EVE ONLINE!
Your opinion is irrelevant!
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:30:00 -
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Strange, never got ganked in hisec. Or anywhere else for that matter.
Try repair.exe, your installation seems to be corrupted in some way.
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Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:30:00 -
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Learn to insta-undock.
Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:31:00 -
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Oh sorry, do you have anything RELEVANT to say before I log in?
Maybe need a dictionary? Do you know what a dictionary is?
You can look up words there! It helps for spelling!
Are my sentences short and easy enough for you to grasp?
Why do you even think you are allowed to post your **** without consequences???
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:33:00 -
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Not to forget how to insta-dock!
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:33:00 -
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Not sure what that has to do with him docking. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:33:00 -
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Why did this need a new thread?
There are many solutions to the problem you are trying to present and is therefore not a problem. Many of them are talked about in that thread. Did you read it or did you get fixated on what Falcon said?
Also, just because you don't agree with Falcon, doesn't mean he is a troll.
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:35:00 -
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Jitamule Momaki wrote:i've been surfing around the fourms looking for a reason and all i see is Fourm post. where CCP Falcon spues the same crap that everyother troll does in this game. Im starting to get the impression CCP is full of Troll's and nothing but, Considering how little they regard high sec gank targets.
I definitely wouldn't call everyone at CCP a troll. And just because you don't like how someone plays the game doesn't mean you get to dictate the way they can play it. |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:35:00 -
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And everyone who thinks I am overreqcting should read his shitpost.
I am sick and tired of these assholes! He doesn't get the game! He calls CCP trolls about how
they run their game and how their game works!
THEIR OWN GAME!
HOW FUCKIN DISCONNECTED DOES ONE HAVE TO BE???
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:36:00 -
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Jitamule Momaki wrote:Why are you all so unquestioningly ok with high sec ganking? Because it's a very deliberate part of the game. They've worked long and hard to ensure that it will exist and be a solid and working mechanic.
Quote:i get the "Emergent" game play crap everyone spues but high sec is ment to be at least partly "Safe" I'll stop you there. No. It really isn't. Highsec is just meant to be an area where aggression comes at a cost. Because of this, you may only extract some degree of safety as a function of how reticent other players are with paying that cost. You are essentially gambling on the miserliness of others, but as luck would have it, there are a multitude of ways to (massively) skew the odds in your favour. Likewise, there are a number of ways to make the odds very bad indeed. The trick, of course, is to do a lot of the former and as little as possible of the latter.
Quote:with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession".  No.
If it were anywhere that easy and profitable, it would actually be a very common activity rather than something you can go many years without ever witnessing.
Quote:Im starting to get the impression CCP is full of Troll's and nothing but, Considering how little they regard high sec gank targets. Why would they hold them in high regard when they've almost universally made some catastrophic error that enabled that gank? And how is trolling to explain the truth of the matter and telling players that, no, this is the game.
Quote:in referance to the link i posted you can't dock and be cloaked at the same time so if someones waiting at the station a bit off your landing spot when you warp to 0 on a station in an Instalock Nado how is that not at least partly an exploit? Nope. Largely because there is no such thing as an instalock Nado, but also partly because it's so trivial to evade (especially in a cloaked ship). Oh, and why couldn't you post in that thread if all you were going to do was to complain about the same thing?
You're quite right that there is no way you can be truly safe in highsec, though. This is entirely as intended. You already got your serious response GÇö you dismissed it as trolling. That was really really really really really really really stupid of you, since you are effectively arguing that the devs are wrong about how the game is supposed to work.
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession". No. If it were anywhere that easy and profitable, it would actually be a very common activity rather than something you can go many years without ever witnessing.
Seriously? I guess if you closed your eyes every time you docked and undocked at Jita. |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:40:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession". No. If it were anywhere that easy and profitable, it would actually be a very common activity rather than something you can go many years without ever witnessing. Seriously? I guess if you closed your eyes every time you docked and undocked at Jita.
Suicide ganking is not a common activity.
Look up the numbers.
CCP says so too.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:41:00 -
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Quote:You can not declare war against them. It might be that they have just disbanded or if it is a corporation, that they have just joined an alliance.
HELL!
WHERE'S THE FUN IN THAT?
I DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING YET!
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:41:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession". No. If it were anywhere that easy and profitable, it would actually be a very common activity rather than something you can go many years without ever witnessing. Seriously? I guess if you closed your eyes every time you docked and undocked at Jita.
I've never been to Jita.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:48:00 -
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Jitamule Momaki wrote:Why are you all so unquestioningly ok with high sec ganking? i get the "Emergent" game play crap everyone spues but high sec is ment to be at least partly "Safe" with how cheap some people can put together a Freighter gank fleet of Cati's or Talos's or even Tornado's its getting to the point where ganking is the most profitable "Profession". i've been surfing around the fourms looking for a reason and all i see is Fourm post. where CCP Falcon spues the same crap that everyother troll does in this game. Im starting to get the impression CCP is full of Troll's and nothing but, Considering how little they regard high sec gank targets. im sure im going to get flamed out for this but. in referance to the link i posted you can't dock and be cloaked at the same time so if someones waiting at the station a bit off your landing spot when you warp to 0 on a station in an Instalock Nado how is that not at least partly an exploit? there is no way you can be truly "safe" in high sec when these types of tactic's are used. i personally have been a victim of this almost exploit. Viator attempting to dock at Jita gets instapoped by a instalock nado, ganker loot scoops and makes 30m profit while im out 600m im sure im going to get called a carebear or w\e else you guys think of but i honestly would like a serious responce about this. i understand that high sec isn't 110% safe and its not ment to be but as of lately its been safer to be out in Low or Null ffs. another question kinda off topic but why is it that if you destroy someone else's wreak you get concorded? why does Concord care about wreaks? how does destroying a wreak warrent a Concorduken to the face? i would understand suspect but wtf concord?
Their game, their rules. If you don't like the rules of the game you are welcome to play another
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:50:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Seriously? I guess if you closed your eyes every time you docked and undocked at Jita.
Maybe if you opened your eyes and looked at what actually goes on rather than live in the pastGǪ
No, ganks are ridiculously rare in Jita. There are a few kills, which is to be expected with that kind of concentration of valuables and ships undocking, but look at what gets killed: n00bships and frigates. Then look at who does the killing: serial wardeccers. Gankers have long since been pushed out of Jita with the CONCORD buffs and, more recently, the changes in CrimeWatch.
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Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:50:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Their game, their rules. If you don't like the rules of the game you are welcome to play another Then we should find out which game it is and go hunt him down there instead.
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Jitamule Momaki
Taxes are for losers
Twilight Imperium
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:53:00 -
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Quote:Im starting to get the impression CCP is full of Troll's and nothing but, Considering how little they regard high sec gank targets. Why would they hold them in high regard when they've almost universally made some catastrophic error that enabled that gank? And how is trolling to explain the truth of the matter and telling players that, no, this is the game.
Quote:in referance to the link i posted you can't dock and be cloaked at the same time so if someones waiting at the station a bit off your landing spot when you warp to 0 on a station in an Instalock Nado how is that not at least partly an exploit? Nope. Largely because there is no such thing as an instalock Nado, but also partly because it's so trivial to evade (especially in a cloaked ship). Oh, and why couldn't you post in that thread if all you were going to do was to complain about the same thing?
You're quite right that there is no way you can be truly safe in highsec, though. This is entirely as intended. You already got your serious response GÇö you dismissed it as trolling. That was really really really really really really really stupid of you, since you are effectively arguing that the devs are wrong about how the game is supposed to work.[/quote]
Thank you finally something constructive. how do you go figure there no such thing as an insta lock tornado? put Sensor boosters on it... wow... that was hard. anyways my incident happend on DOCKING 1 you can't dock cloaked and 2 theres a good 5-10 seconds between landing and docking so its fairly easy to pop someone in one volley in that time span. 3 id LOVE to know what error i made to cause said gank. all i did was attempt to dock at jita apparently thats a SERIOUSLY bad idea.
but truly thank you for being the only person mature enough to respond to this without flaming me off the fourms. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:54:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
I do; particularly because every single MMO I've ever played eventually gets flat out RUINED by the devs catering to the whiners.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:55:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
I do; particularly because every single MMO I've ever played eventually gets flat out RUINED by the devs catering to the whiners. I'm so glad that in this game ...
... we can kick their collective asses out.
If we could wardec them.
Because they seem to have disbanded!
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:58:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
I do; particularly because every single MMO I've ever played eventually gets flat out RUINED by the devs catering to the whiners. I'm so glad that in this game ... ... we can kick their collective asses out. If we could wardec them. Because they seem to have disbanded!
That makes me giggle :D
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:59:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
I do; particularly because every single MMO I've ever played eventually gets flat out RUINED by the devs catering to the whiners.
I find it funny that you're whining about people ruining the game by whining. Should the devs not listen to you either? |
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:02:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I am sick of stupid people who whine about the game.
Does anyone agree?
I do; particularly because every single MMO I've ever played eventually gets flat out RUINED by the devs catering to the whiners. I find it funny that you're whining about people ruining the game by whining. Should the devs not listen to you either?
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You.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:03:00 -
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If you don't like it, you are free to vote with your wallet.
Clearly, you don't actually want to play EVE Online anyway. I suggest you burn some of your money by giving it to Chris Roberts, his house in the Bahamas isn't big enough yet.
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