This ...


... and this, so much.


Regarding to the upper post there are three famous words to add,
which have become a sad reality.


Ignorance is Strength.

I'm still here. Tippia's still here. There's a lot of smart people who are still playing.

Who said those so called famous words?
What you meant to put was "Ignorance is bliss"Dunning-Krueger effect is a real thing.

I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping?

I DON'T GET IT I DON'T GET IT I DON'T GET IT AND PROJECT MY OWN ISSUE ONTO YOU

I really like how you are literally unable to understand what I am talking about ...
... and thus will stop conversing with you ...
... as it is pointless to talk with people who suffer from said effect.

I think what we are finding is a new class of gamer who wants instant gratification because they are so used to getting it.
Many games that are being released now across all platforms bear more resemblance to the arcade games of the 80's and early 90's.
We have a generation of players who have been brought up on games on facebook and mobile platforms.
Games with the complexity of Eve are a very rare breed these days.

You do not sound like you played any games from back then.

These games were everything else than "instant gratification".

These games were HARD TO BEAT and achievements actually involved SKILL!

...

One can say that the modern gaming industry is not about providing challenges,
but about providing rewards.

NeuroScience gave the entertainment industry better and better ways
of finding out how to make people hooked ... and how to turn off deeper
thought so they keep being hooked ... and the best way to do this is to reach out for lower instincts.

Gratification.


They are giving people a fake sense of self worth. That's why there are extremely hostile "carebears",
because they have a fake sense of self worth. They do not engage in player vs. player combat
and are extremely mad when it's forced onto them, because it's the reality that shows them
that they are losers who can not actually win challenges.


Or, in other words ...

If I keep telling you that you are great at chess and let you win all the time ...
... even when you are a really ****** player without any actual skills ...
... someone who does not let you win will make you suffer from loss of self worth ...
... which leads to reactions you can read up on the forums.

You don't understand the concept of instant gratification.
Instant gratification is about *rewards* and not about *challenges*.

That's why it is called "gratification".
That's why Zynga games generally can be categorised as "instant gratification" games.

grind levelup grind grind levelup grind grind grind levelup grind grind grind grind levelup
"I AM SOOO GOOD!"



Arcade games were made hard on purpose.
The "drug" was the desire to keep playing *TO* actually beat them.
"I WILL FINISH THIS! I KNOW I CAN BEAT THIS!"


The mindset of players back then was a completely different one.

Please inform yourself properly, because you are way off.

Google is a wonderful thing but copy and paste does not make you intelligent.
I shall just say this, A pseudointellectual will be condescending and make you feel stupid for either not knowing what they know or believing what they say to be true. Now that is true of you!

You can not accept when someone knows more than you
and grasps reality better than you.

You keep trying to get a reaction from me that
makes you feel better about yourself.

Everyone is free to go through the posting history of the person I quoted.

You even posted in the thread about Sibyyl,
even after I noted that I will report your posts and that the thread is about Sibyyl alone.

She is thankfull that I keep an eye on that thread ...
... as she is thankfull for the thread itself ...
... which is a gift to her for everything she has done for me.


You keep trying to make this about me ...
... ignoring that you are simply constantly trying to make it about yourself.
Truth is when called to question psuedo intellectuals run away or blank out the truth that they really have ideals that are not their own and they are not able to see the full picture or the whole truth.


You are unable to deal with me ...
... because I crush your fake sense of superiority.

Instead, you keep projecting your fake sense of superiority onto me.


I will simply hide your posts now.


Have a nice day/weekend.

Progression is a reward in itself. Progression is gratifying. Fast progression even more so, especially when the game is hard.

One can say that the modern gaming industry is not about providing challenges,
but about providing rewards.

NeuroScience gave the entertainment industry better and better ways
of finding out how to make people hooked ... and how to turn off deeper
thought so they keep being hooked ... and the best way to do this is to reach out for lower instincts.

Gratification.


They are giving people a fake sense of self worth. That's why there are extremely hostile "carebears",
because they have a fake sense of self worth. They do not engage in player vs. player combat
and are extremely mad when it's forced onto them, because it's the reality that shows them
that they are losers who can not actually win challenges.


Or, in other words ...

If I keep telling you that you are great at chess and let you win all the time ...
... even when you are a really ****** player without any actual skills ...
... someone who does not let you win will make you suffer from loss of self worth ...
... which leads to reactions you can read up on the forums.

sol,
you're arguing with npc's,
this has (arguably) about as much merit as arguing with your own alt.

^ This.

sol,
you're arguing with npc's,
this has (arguably) about as much merit as arguing with your own alt.

I can copy and paste random crap of the internet

CCP reduced the grind?

Instead of grinding rep for a variety of entities, you can now focus grind LP and ISK in quest hubs but you will grind the same amount. And what ever happened to EVE is hard, HTFU? EVE is m'eh, wait for primary?

Irrelevant to the point and not comparable to the huge increase over the last ten years.

I read the forums every now and then and all I see is so many players crying about game mechanics. Like ganking haulers and miners, scams in jita, Wardecs being a greifer tool, High sec not safe and more. Thing is, this has been going on all the time, and puzzles me how people can't learn from the past? So is EVE's overall IQ dropping?

Who said those so called famous words?
What you meant to put was "Ignorance is bliss"
And just so you know, It comes from Thomas Gray's poem, Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College (1742)