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Infinity Ziona Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.07.28 04:27:00 - [1] Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 28/07/2006 04:27:45 Having to turn on autoblock because your letting retards use the Invite to Gang spam and accidental Enter key exploit is intefering with my legitimate gameplay. Could you please Bannanate said Retards or fix the popup window so I can allow legitimate convos and invites please. Thank You.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 04:43:00 - [2] /signed Had some 2004-players perform this silliness just a few minutes ago.
Lardarz B'stard Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 05:10:00 - [3] "accidental enter key exploit" ??? Exiles Recruitment
Omber Zombie Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 05:27:00 - [4] lard - you're in th emiddleof typing something when that join gang popup pop's up, and enter selects yes. ----------------------
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.28 05:41:00 - [5] Should be a bannable offense, perma ban for repeat offenders. Play nice while you Butcher each other
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.07.28 05:47:00 - [6] Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard?
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? I wholly endorse and or support this idea! Akkarin P.S. I am not at all bitter or twisted about losing a Claw to this "feature" Linkage Do not press this button
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? You win the thread.
Michiyo Daishi	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:20:00 - [9] Edited by: Michiyo Daishi on 28/07/2006 06:20:44 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? Seconding Hippoking's forum wisdom in making you the thread winnar, and /signed as well. Seriously, this should have been easily fixed along with that font change a while back at least - posts posted are not official statements of EVEnews.com, and are the poster's own
BlackHole Bob Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:25:00 - [10] I concur and the solutions posted seem simple enough... Blackhole Bob CEO: R-U-OK Corporation In Game Player Guide EvE-NN.com - EvE News Network
Arcticblue2 Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 08:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? Actually I am fairly sure that the DEVS have said that convoing someone during a fight using this tactics is bad and quite possible a bannable offence. Don't remember when... but I am sure they said so. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
Kateryne Steel Frontier Ekliptika	Posted - 2006.07.28 08:31:00 - [12] Anything used to create unfair lag on someone is a petitionable, if not bannable offence, report anyone you see using such ghey tactics to ccp and you'll get a cookie! Looking for a corp? Like POS?
Gariuys Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 08:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? You definetly win the thread.
Brisi Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.07.28 09:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Gariuys Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough**** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? You definetly win the thread. I concur. I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 09:13:00 - [15] Edited by: Cheyenne Shadowborn on 28/07/2006 09:13:03 I agree with all the smart things said in this thread. And with Hippokings, too --

t20	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:20:00 - [16] I'll take a look at this

Hellspawn01 Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:24:00 - [17] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Wub ya wong time (if it gets sorted) Ship lovers click here
R3dSh1ft Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:24:00 - [18] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this OMG ACTION! /YES!!!! ______________________________________
Michiyo Daishi	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:26:00 - [19] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this VOILA! WE HAVE ATTENTION! Now we hope CCP doesnt ignore this request. Honestly, this is so easy to fix even I, with little-no experience in programming (all I did was edit a couple of values in a game so I could cheat long time ago) could figure this out, provided if I had the faculties at my disposal. Cmon CCP :) dont let us down now... - posts posted are not official statements of EVEnews.com, and are the poster's own
DarkMatter Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:27:00 - [20] Default NO is definitely the answer. Not only that, but the world stops when a popup strikes, that's a pod killer...
Norfin Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.28 10:29:00 - [21] I have certainly run into quite a few people doing this in and around Jita and I have to say it is particularly lame. I remember a time when you were trying to gank someone in EVE and you had to WORK at it, a little more than just right clicking on every pilot in local and hoping someone was unlucky enough to be talking to their friends. It's shameful really that people are so willing to exploit a weakness in the client to get cheap kills.
splattercat F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:00:00 - [22] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Haveing been lots of times gang spamed/convo spamed its REALY lame and annoying... Maybe have a setting that only ppl in your address book can gang you?
lofty29 Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Should be a bannable offense, perma ban for repeat offenders. I dont agree with this. I know of quite a few players, me being one, who gets the gang invite without spamming them at random people. All it would take would be a few lying asshats to get me and many others banned. Most stuck-up newbies wont accept that they accepted to join the gang, and lie through their teeth to make them look 'better'. No. --------------------------- Originally by: HippoKing ...I suck at forums
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:07:00 - [24] don't ban them, just have it not be primary window/first priority
Infinity Ziona Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:17:00 - [25] I wasnt serious about banning them. Defaulting to No would be sweet enough.
DarkMatter Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:21:00 - [26] Edited by: DarkMatter on 28/07/2006 11:21:49 Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Sergeant Spot Should be a bannable offense, perma ban for repeat offenders. I dont agree with this. I know of quite a few players, me being one, who gets the gang invite without spamming them at random people. All it would take would be a few lying asshats to get me and many others banned. Most stuck-up newbies wont accept that they accepted to join the gang, and lie through their teeth to make them look 'better'. No. It would not hurt the game at all if ppl like yourself were warned/banned for your current questionable usage of the game mechanics. You'd be acceptable collateral damage...
Shigsy Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:33:00 - [27] I lost a raven due to this, altho it was a friendly invite, but it should be set to NO! DAMMIT.
Taliena Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Taliena on 28/07/2006 11:43:49 double post i hate broken forums :( -Taliena-
Taliena Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:43:00 - [29] i usually hang around hubs spamming random gang invites for my war targets to attack but i never realised that the gang window a) takes precedence over the game window and b) auto defaults its answer to yes. (all defaults should automatically select no imho) Altho i know people get peeved when they get shot this way i don't think it should be regarded as an exploit because they are warned about joining a warring gang :) just my 0.02 isk -Taliena-
Tachy	Posted - 2006.07.28 11:51:00 - [30] imagines a lone dev sitting in front of a monitor for months, next to two groups of three devs each looking into the font problems This issues is valid since the popups where implemented. It has been brought up over and over again. We heard the 'I'll look into that.' back then too. On the other hand, the forum mostly worked as long as you've been busy doing the website stuff. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.07.28 12:05:00 - [31] I laugh at people who want to use police, laws and hundreds of GM hours to fix a simple interface issue. If there would be a "make the other ship explode" button, the same kind of people would debate endlessly how lame those evil exploiters are who click that button, and how GMs should ban them all. Then the same kinds of people would come here on the forums (well they would if they could bypass the ban) and whine how the griefers stopped griefing using the "iwin" button, but instead tricked the GMs into thinking that the other guys used it. Oh and on topic - its good to see a dev responding to an extremely important interface issue. I would suggest a "no by default" temporary fix, and a longterm solution involving the reworking of the current pop-up box system, including a more detailed way to "auto-rejecet" (auto-reject convo, auto-reject gang invites, auto-reject gang invites with wars). The current blocking system needs a rework, many new players think that someone with auto-reject (the interface issues make that a must if you undock) declined their conversation attempt and feel insulted etc even though there is actually no way to just say "no" to a convo without blocking someone. Switch the message boxes around so that autoreject generates a message sayin so - and allow for a "not now" option for convos instead of the useless ("yes, add to adress book").
Victor Kruger	Posted - 2006.07.28 12:25:00 - [32] I am always ganged with an alt, first to make my drones behave properly and second to be safe from such crappy actions. If you don't have a secondary account running, you can simply invite a corpmate (even if he's at the other end of the galaxy ;)). --------------- Hey, where's my portrait
Uther Doull Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.28 12:49:00 - [33] i just blocked RA and the problem was over but yeah, just a simple ui change and it's fixed
Adrielle Firewalker Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.28 12:53:00 - [34] Just stopping the window from grabbing focus would do it I think ================ ~Adrielle Original MinmatarT
Infrared Raven Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.07.28 12:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Victor Kruger I am always ganged with an alt, first to make my drones behave properly and second to be safe from such crappy actions. If you don't have a secondary account running, you can simply invite a corpmate (even if he's at the other end of the galaxy ;)). It actually doesn't matter. You still get gang invites, even if you are already in a gang.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 13:14:00 - [36] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Default it to NO. Takes 5 minutes. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Matthew Munro Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 13:40:00 - [37] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Default it to NO. Takes 5 minutes. Yikes, if it takes 5 minutes I'm scared, unless that includes finding the piece of code, even then it's a stretch
voogru Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 15:07:00 - [38] Edited by: voogru on 28/07/2006 15:07:17 Originally by: Adrielle Firewalker Just stopping the window from grabbing focus would do it I think Nah, just make the default no.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.07.28 15:27:00 - [39] The whole system modal dialog concept is so seriously flawed it makes me cry, and that's beyond EvE. If it's so important that you need to inform someone IMMEDIATELY, when why add buttons that can be pressed by being in the process of typing random text to a text editor? Defaulting to "no" just makes it less likely that you type the wrong button. And for added insult usually there is no feedback on what exactly was just being told to you and what action you commanded. I bet they don't have system modal dialogs on board of REAL space ships. Smagd -- When I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. Thukkers do
Locke DieDrake Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.07.28 15:29:00 - [40] Originally by: splattercat Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Haveing been lots of times gang spamed/convo spamed its REALY lame and annoying... Maybe have a setting that only ppl in your address book can gang you? You know, you can already do that. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
trimdonite	Posted - 2006.07.28 15:39:00 - [41] defaulting it to no will only solve half the problem. Stopping it from grabbing focus is better. That way you can't be spammed when your trying to get your pod out or enter won't select yes if your typing
Trak Cranker	Posted - 2006.07.28 15:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Arcticblue2 Actually I am fairly sure that the DEVS have said that convoing someone during a fight using this tactics is bad and quite possible a bannable offence. Don't remember when... but I am sure they said so. Pretty sure too - but try and petition it...
Tachy	Posted - 2006.07.28 16:01:00 - [43] Edited by: Tachy on 28/07/2006 16:01:48 The devs and some GM said so in the help channel when questioned about that tactic. Petition the lamers and get them banned for good. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
HippoKing Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 16:02:00 - [44] Originally by: splattercat Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Haveing been lots of times gang spamed/convo spamed its REALY lame and annoying... Maybe have a setting that only ppl in your address book can gang you? So, who wants to explain to him?
Trak Cranker	Posted - 2006.07.28 16:02:00 - [45] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Default it to NO. Takes 5 minutes. No separate programming task in a professional and commercial environment takes only 5 minutes for the dev. If it does you are slacking somewhere. But default to no, or better, non-modalise and non-focus the window. Yes, please.
Razean Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.28 16:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Taliena i usually hang around hubs spamming random gang invites for my war targets to attack but i never realised that the gang window a) takes precedence over the game window and b) auto defaults its answer to yes. (all defaults should automatically select no imho) Altho i know people get peeved when they get shot this way i don't think it should be regarded as an exploit because they are warned about joining a warring gang :) just my 0.02 isk How could you not realize this? You've never received a gang invite? Sorry, I just can't believe you are truly that naive. So, not only are you despicable, you're also a liar. And for the record, I have no qualms with despicable liars playing Eve, nor am I accusing you of any exploits. I do find deceptive PvP tactics in HiSec space to be relatively cowardly though. Real Pirates hunt LoSec, real PvPers fly 0.0.
Sessho Seki	Posted - 2006.07.28 17:44:00 - [47] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Sergeant Spot Should be a bannable offense, perma ban for repeat offenders. I dont agree with this. I know of quite a few players, me being one, who gets the gang invite without spamming them at random people. All it would take would be a few lying asshats to get me and many others banned. Most stuck-up newbies wont accept that they accepted to join the gang, and lie through their teeth to make them look 'better'. No. oooooh, ok, so you want to first admit you exploit to kill people, even if only occasionally. Regardless of the person, and the reasons for you killing them, the methodology you used to kill them is still an exploit. if/when you would be reported for using said exploit, there would be no use in lying for either of you, as the server logs would either confirm your innocence or guilt in the matter, so don't try to use that as a "reason" you should be allowed to continue to abuse an exploit. you have failed miserably on both counts, get some skill, and fight with a spine rather than cowardice.
Zzazzt Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.28 17:48:00 - [48] Edited by: Zzazzt on 28/07/2006 17:48:31 Gang/convo spamming's been a griefing tactive since beta. All it needs is make the invite box appear without focus & the problem instantly disappears. I do wonder why it's lasted this long tbh... ____________________________________________
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.07.28 17:56:00 - [49] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Did you ever know that you're my hero?
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.07.28 19:39:00 - [50] Originally by: Sessho Seki oooooh, ok, so you want to first admit you exploit to kill people, even if only occasionally. So now its an exploit to kill people using gang wars? Why do gang wars allow you to kill your gangmates then? Why do i have to overload the petition system with questions each time i want answers to some basic stuff? Server logs and actually logging something ... heh. Heheheehehe. As for the convo-spamming tactics. While its lame, labeling something that has been deliberatly designed to have such an effect an exploit is even more lame. "Real devs" dont hide behind exploits, they fix it so that convo-ing someone cannot possibly harm anyone. Then it doesnt matter how "evil" the lame griefers are, they have to go back to killing hamsters, issueing RL threats over phone and sending dead rats via mail.
Barlaka	Posted - 2006.07.28 21:08:00 - [51] "Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too." Yes Yes please.
Taliena Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.29 10:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Razean How could you not realize this? You've never received a gang invite? Sorry, I just can't believe you are truly that naive. So, not only are you despicable, you're also a liar. And for the record, I have no qualms with despicable liars playing Eve, nor am I accusing you of any exploits. I do find deceptive PvP tactics in HiSec space to be relatively cowardly though. Real Pirates hunt LoSec, real PvPers fly 0.0. Don't you dare call me a liar, you don't know me and no, i have never had a gang invite all i know about the window is what has been said before (re: "join warring gang") so get your facts right before trolling me. I play this game the way i choose, not the way people like you dictate it to me. -Taliena-
Krak Ho Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.29 21:00:00 - [53] Agreed. In cases like those, the 'Enter' key should not activate the 'yes' or 'OK' or 'Accept' option. In cases like those, a mouse click should be the only way to aknowledge the invite.
Arkanor Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 21:12:00 - [54] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Getting convo-spammed while trying to save your pod? Who cares, they'd just pile up while your cursor is still able to spam clikc the warp button. Get convo invites while typing and the person is hoping for an easy gank-via-exploit? Ohnoes, tough** for him, you kept typing uninterrupted, or hit enter and it told him NO. Is it really that hard? SIGNED IN TRIPLICATE! Originally by:** Ghosthowl WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face. Originally by: HippoKing I just cried, you know that?
Darkstarr Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.07.29 21:57:00 - [55] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Putting the default to 'no' would be nice too. Or simply make popups not force you to focus on only those. Make them non-priority. Is it really that hard? /signed I agree with others by saying, You totaly won this thread... and you did it with two simple sentences. ---FAST FACT--- Exxon Mobil, the U.S.'s largest oil firm, reported annual earnings last year of $36.1 Billion, or $1146 a second, a record for any U.S. corp.
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.07.29 22:10:00 - [56] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: splattercat Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Haveing been lots of times gang spamed/convo spamed its REALY lame and annoying... Maybe have a setting that only ppl in your address book can gang you? So, who wants to explain to him? Autoreject Invitations option? Or something else I'm not seeing? Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Khal Grayrest Ars Caelestis	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:33:00 - [57] Edited by: Khal Grayrest on 29/07/2006 23:33:32 Originally by: Eximius Josari Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: splattercat Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Haveing been lots of times gang spamed/convo spamed its REALY lame and annoying... Maybe have a setting that only ppl in your address book can gang you? So, who wants to explain to him? Autoreject Invitations option? Or something else I'm not seeing? The majority of players use the addressbook to list enemies rather than friends. When you see the green dot in local, you know the player is hostile. As a convenient side effect, it notifies you when your enemies log on/off. I have 3million SP and an exclamation mark for a face...
KentachiSamurai	Posted - 2006.07.31 11:05:00 - [58] Just heard that my corpmate fell foul to this lame trick. Easily enough fixed by defaulting to NO. Please fix this CCP
Kaylana Syi Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 12:23:00 - [59] I had some 'The Collective' Guy named Tazz Ford2 do that bullsh*t to my alt the other day in stain... was pretty lame imo. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Borgholio Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 16:42:00 - [60] Someone tried this during one of my previous freighter runs to Jita. Luckily I was paying attention. :-/ ----------------------------------- You will be assimilated...bunghole!
Gothikia Regeneration Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.31 17:31:00 - [61] auto reject ftw Regeneration - Nothing is better than us, Not Even Doom Music!
Borgholio Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 19:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Gothikia auto reject ftw Agreed, but that also has the effect of blocking legit convo requests from friendly passers-by, as well as convo and gang invites from your own corp / alliance. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. :) The two ideas of "Default to no" and "Make the invite window popup in the background" are great ideas, but a third option "Only allow gang invites from your corp / alliance" would solve the problem as well. ----------------------------------- You will be assimilated...bunghole!
Ju'Ju Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.31 19:53:00 - [63] Originally by: Borgholio Originally by: Gothikia auto reject ftw Agreed, but that also has the effect of blocking legit convo requests from friendly passers-by, as well as convo and gang invites from your own corp / alliance. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. Send an evemail then... ___________ OGBP Recruiting!
Infinity Ziona ISK LLC	Posted - 2006.07.31 21:08:00 - [64] Originally by: Ju'Ju Originally by: Borgholio Originally by: Gothikia auto reject ftw Agreed, but that also has the effect of blocking legit convo requests from friendly passers-by, as well as convo and gang invites from your own corp / alliance. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. Send an evemail then... Sending an EvE mail is fine however its backwards to have to 119 thousand people sending EvE mails to have auto-reject switched off so you can create a legitimate gang or convo because 100 people are using the system in an incorrect manner. 'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein
Lurtz Caldari Gunrunners and Gamblers	Posted - 2006.08.10 13:19:00 - [65] Originally by: Kateryne Anything used to create unfair lag on someone is a petitionable, if not bannable offence, report anyone you see using such ghey tactics to ccp and you'll get a cookie! actually you'll get a wonderful GM response of 'Just block them'
Lurtz Caldari Gunrunners and Gamblers	Posted - 2006.08.10 13:24:00 - [66] Originally by: Tachy Edited by: Tachy on 28/07/2006 16:01:48 The devs and some GM said so in the help channel when questioned about that tactic. Petition the lamers and get them banned for good. Evidently GM spiral didn't get that memo
eLLioTT wave Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.10 13:43:00 - [67] Originally by: t20 I'll take a look at this Yay for dev response, now come comment HERE
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.20 11:17:00 - [68] signed. snip This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.20 11:26:00 - [69] I wonder what happens if you accept the gang, then get attacked but leave the gang 30 seconds later? Will the legitimate agression suddenly turn into unlegit? Or can the agressor carry on shooting as long he doesn't bring in more guns and mods to the fight?
Quineverre	Posted - 2006.08.20 11:32:00 - [70] Originally by: Aeon Yakati I wonder what happens if you accept the gang, then get attacked but leave the gang 30 seconds later? Will the legitimate agression suddenly turn into unlegit? Or can the agressor carry on shooting as long he doesn't bring in more guns and mods to the fight? The person cant shoot you just because you are in a gang but because you are in a gang with someone he/she is at war with. Thats the whole trick behind this. Its two players, or alts, working together with a fake war to get a shot at you. Someone correct me if I am wrong ... but far as I understood this whole war status gives them the right to keep going after you tull 15 mins after you leave the gang. The trick itself is irritating but i consider it just another eve normality. It would however be nice if the accept window would have no as the default answer. Having to turn on auto reject cause they spam you with 10 invites after another is quite irritating.
Kahor Minmatar Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.20 11:33:00 - [71] I second this thread :) An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.20 12:17:00 - [72] Originally by: Quineverre Originally by: Aeon Yakati I wonder what happens if you accept the gang, then get attacked but leave the gang 30 seconds later? Will the legitimate agression suddenly turn into unlegit? Or can the agressor carry on shooting as long he doesn't bring in more guns and mods to the fight? The person cant shoot you just because you are in a gang but because you are in a gang with someone he/she is at war with. Thats the whole trick behind this. Its two players, or alts, working together with a fake war to get a shot at you. Someone correct me if I am wrong ... but far as I understood this whole war status gives them the right to keep going after you tull 15 mins after you leave the gang. The trick itself is irritating but i consider it just another eve normality. It would however be nice if the accept window would have no as the default answer. Having to turn on auto reject cause they spam you with 10 invites after another is quite irritating. When did I say the gang inviter would be the one initiating the agression Can anyone confirm there's a 15 minute agression timer in effect after leaving the gang in which the war target may shoot you?
Quineverre	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:48:00 - [73] Confirmation would be nice. Anyone know for sure?

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