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Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:48:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr
That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin |

Chad Ramsbottom
University of Caille Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:53:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you.
But look at all this constructive criticism! |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:59:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you.
Will posf the message tomorrow off the gm |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:00:00 -
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Chad Ramsbottom wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. But look at all this constructive criticism!
This is eve ppl like to help |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1231
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:03:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Jugernauth wrote:I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. No changes in EVE are permanent. You speculated that a massive, unannounced increase in mineral costs out of line with any other changes in the patch was intentional. You got burned nice and bad. You'll have about the same luck as the guy who speculated by buying billions of ISK worth of station containers and got laughed at in a Dev Blog. massive increases in mineral costs are never announced. Do not know the container storie.
Yes they are. See battleship balance thread for example where the material modification were announced.
You got burned like the guy who spend tons on rigs blueprint when rigs for freighter were announced for example. CCP does not care if you get burned on speculation. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6887
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:13:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. Will posf the message tomorrow off the gm
Posting GM correspondance is against the forum rules "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:28:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Where's the Aisle of Confusion. I seem to be lost. Just cloak up and pretend to be afk.
These are even more surreal WTF Subforum #13 The Circus Ward 7 Day 753, Sombody farted in my constellation :| Solvents, Nudity, Beer Online \o/
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
505
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:51:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
CCP will not reimburse losses incurred due to price fluctuations of market commodities, or the way those prices are averaged and reflected in BPO's.
Sorry buddy, this is one of those times you will have to eat the loss. |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:33:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr +1 to the GM for giving GD a thread that delivered. Remove insurance. |

Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:53:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
Didn't know exactly what you were getting at, until I realised you meant change instead of chance.
Market speculation is all it is, that's the risks you take.
Mineral requirements changing from 10 mil to 62 mil, should have at least made you cautious as that's quite a change. |

45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:13:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
The answer to your question is NO |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4467
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:31:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:...mineral juse...
I love my mineral juse. It helps keep me strong and healthy. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16727
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:39:00 -
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Is this thread really happening?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
279
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:44:00 -
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mineral juse? Is it like Quafe and is there a BPO for it if so?  ...................................................... |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:07:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. Will posf the message tomorrow off the gm Posting GM correspondance is against the forum rules
Then i will first send petition to gm iff its oke to post his answer. |

Damon Messer
Emergent Mining Et Al.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:23:00 -
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so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP? |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:59:00 -
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Damon Messer wrote:so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP?
Nope |

Yun Kuai
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:12:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote: mineral juse? Is it like Quafe and is there a BPO for it if so? 
Send me 10mil right now and I'll send you a case of Mineral Juse. Send me 100mil and I'll send you 10 cases plus a free case of our new flavor of Mineral Juse Mex! (TM). Send me 1 billion right now and you'll get a 1 week, all access pass to Mineral Juse's Factory Land where we have a raffle at the end of the week with a chance to win your very own BPO of Mineral Juse. --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::------- |

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
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Posted - 2014.09.05 06:29:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Damon Messer wrote:so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP? Nope
Fine, we can be technical about it. You took a gamble on patch speculation and lost ISK. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |

Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
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Posted - 2014.09.05 06:41:00 -
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you gambled wrong.
as you said "you have been under the impression"
why should CCP reimburse your own failure ? http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.09.05 07:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Damon Messer wrote:so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP? Nope Fine, we can be technical about it. You took a gamble on patch speculation and lost ISK.
There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials.
So why did ccp reimburst the ppl that paided the wrong starting price for starting jobs (was also a bug in that same patch)? Same problem it seems to me....... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24431
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Posted - 2014.09.05 10:02:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials. It was just a bugged display of needed materials, you won't have lost anything. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
5446
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Posted - 2014.09.05 10:35:00 -
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I don't normally say this kind of thing, but...
Them's the breaks. Welcome to Eve. |

Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
93
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jugernauth wrote:There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials. It was just a bugged display of needed materials, you won't have lost anything.
He would have made a loss if he stockpiled the finished products paying more than they were worth (at 10k material costs) expecting to get more than he paid back once they were at 62k material costs.
But he would have to have stockpiled a huge amount to incur a 14 billion loss. He doesn't say if the 14 billion loss is actual loss or actual loss and projected profits as part of that loss. |

Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
120
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:20:00 -
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You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6036
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:42:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
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Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:43:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Tippia wrote:Jugernauth wrote:There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials. It was just a bugged display of needed materials, you won't have lost anything. He would have made a loss if he stockpiled the finished products paying more than they were worth (at 10k material costs) expecting to get more than he paid back once they were at 62k material costs. But he would have to have stockpiled a huge amount to incur a 14 billion loss. He doesn't say if the 14 billion loss is actual loss or actual loss and projected profits as part of that loss.
its not 10k but 10 mil. I bought around 500 and exspect to make loss off 30 mil a pice. That is around 14 bil. So i stockpiled good yes. Bought at 40 mil average. So its not projected profit loss but actual isk that i had loss |

Jugernauth
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
3
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:47:00 -
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Rab See wrote:You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it.
In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair. |

Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
93
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:49:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Grog Aftermath wrote:Tippia wrote:Jugernauth wrote:There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials. It was just a bugged display of needed materials, you won't have lost anything. He would have made a loss if he stockpiled the finished products paying more than they were worth (at 10k material costs) expecting to get more than he paid back once they were at 62k material costs. But he would have to have stockpiled a huge amount to incur a 14 billion loss. He doesn't say if the 14 billion loss is actual loss or actual loss and projected profits as part of that loss. its not 10k but 10 mil. I bought around 500 and exspect to make loss off 30 mil a pice. That is around 14 bil. So i stockpiled good yes. Bought at 40 mil average. So its not projected profit loss but actual isk that i had loss
That was an error on my part, I've now corrected it.
I also added an edit to that post, before I saw this one of yours. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6036
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:59:00 -
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Jugernauth wrote:Rab See wrote:You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it. In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair.
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