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Tycho VI
Nanashi no Geemu
FOX.HOUND
3
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:40:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:I'd rather forget about the event than to see a killmail of it. It was ******** boring thanks to 4500+ in system and the great slow motion mechanism of tidi.
It was fun to hit warp to the site and enter warp minutes later. Then land on the site another few minutes later. Then grid load a couple minutes later. Then.....targeting the ship...that was the great part. Took minutes just to lock it. Firing weapons was fun. Waited minutes for that to work. Then waiting for the log to register a hit. Finally seeing I hit it, I said **** this this **** is too much fun, so I warped out. That took a lot of minutes to happen. Actually went and made me a sandwich, came back and my ship was just starting to enter warp.
Yes that was a great event. I look forward to the next one.... Compared to how it use to be. Where you didn't know if you were connected to the server or not. Waiting for the client to crash as the node crashed causing the server to go sideways as well.
Yeah TIDI is great compared to what used to happen....back in 2006 or so....everyone had single core processor....battles over 600 people would be too much. Remember getting a FPS lagspike in a massive battle, locked up the entire computer, couldnt alt tab, only option was restarting, i waited 10 mins and the next frame showed up of my pod at station hahaha....maybe TIDI is the reason these massive coalitions are able to exist
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:20:00 -
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So what have we learned from this event?
That killmails only being available to the person who got last damage is stupid beyond belief.
Hoping Im not making a false assumption here. Even if I am, that really is damn stupid! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11421
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:20:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The event was, however, created by dev hacks.
Would you care to explain? Anyone can request a system reinforced if they are expecting a large fleet fight. I think 4900 people qualifies. Someone built the Rev. Someone flew the Rev. A Rev can go into low sec. Where is the Dev hackage here? I'm honestly curious exactly how CCP 'cheated' the game to make this event happen, as far as I know the only thing they did was reinforce the node and watch it in person. The ship was moved into an incursion system by devs, and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it also placed in station? My assumption on the latter is based on them having done exactly that before, with Marlona Sky's Nyx. It was not an Incursion system, and it did not undock. It cyno'd in and warped to a Large compound where 4800 people dogpiled on it and shot eachother, as well. You clearly weren't there.
No, I wasn't there. I never tried to give any impression that I was.
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
5yndr0m3
Origin.
Black Legion.
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 00:04:00 -
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CCP Fox Four confirmed on reddit, that the KM was not generated due to server lag,
Quote:It doesn't exist.
TiDi at less than 10% plus that many people on the killmail means server goes welp!
Also, the logs show lots... Just not anything about that killmail.
Thread
/thread |
cpu939
Eternal Darkness.
Get Off My Lawn
62
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Posted - 2014.09.09 03:18:00 -
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5yndr0m3 wrote:CCP Fox Four confirmed on reddit, that the KM was not generated due to server lag, Quote:It doesn't exist.
TiDi at less than 10% plus that many people on the killmail means server goes welp!
Also, the logs show lots... Just not anything about that killmail. Thread/thread
why was that posted to reddit and not the eve forums? i really can't understand why they wouldn't post here where its so easy for all the customers of ccp to find.
do the log not show damage and who did the last damage? |
Rattman
Van Diemen's Demise
Pandemic Legion
26
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The ship was moved into an incursion system by devs, and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it also placed in station?
My assumption on the latter is based on them having done exactly that before, with Marlona Sky's Nyx.
Why dont you shutup about stuff you know nothing about.
there was no low sec incursions so they went to plan b which was create a mission, clean out the first room and teleport it into behind a gate. That didn't work so they teleported it to a large complex so people could warp to.
What was done by the devs was totally doable by players |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
261
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Posted - 2014.09.09 06:58:00 -
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Event was meaningless anyway really. 99% of the people there are there to plink a super, they didn't care whose it was or why the event (or any other like it) was being run in the first place.
Whilst it's vaguely interesting that this is the highest number of people in one place it's not like they were there for genuine reasons ala Asakai et al, so it's not like it is relevant for CCP PR.
My heart truly bleeds for self-confessed killmail obsessives, particularly ones where their hollow contribution of a lone plink was irrelevant. |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:13:00 -
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Some dude claims to have calculated the total blows, and has a link to the 3k+ pilots. Would be good to have this independently confirmed, ofc.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2fttqx/so_that_revenant_killmail/ckd9564 |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works
The Big Dirty
36
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:16:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=372417&find=unread |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:22:00 -
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Yeah, saw that .tab data file but it doesn't have summaries. I like how the pastebin is all already summed up for us.
And no, not downloading the windows app from 'not a trusted' (as opposed to untrusted) source - I hope you understand.
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works
The Big Dirty
39
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Posted - 2014.09.09 07:25:00 -
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Awkward Pi Duolus wrote:Yeah, saw that .tab data file but it doesn't have summaries. I like how the pastebin is all already summed up for us. And no, not downloading the windows app from 'not a trusted' (as opposed to untrusted) source - I hope you understand.
Fine, I've added something to the other. But if you're going to go trusting some random dudes 'summary' instead of being able to see all 32+ thousand lines of damage. Don't take my word for it. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
819
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:05:00 -
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Added Carribean Queen's info to my revenant article, along with the shortened summary provided by NullSecHobo. I will keep following the developments, in case there's errors that need correction.
The report I did on it: Revenant Supercarrier destroyed as promotional stunt by Eve-Bet, now with Revenant kill list info! Happy reading!
Revenant Carrier destroyed as promotional stunt by Eve-Bet! Now with-áRevenant kill list included!-á
-áSansha's Nation intensifies attacks! |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1968
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:58:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
No, I wasn't there. I never tried to give any impression that I was.
Then quit with the conjecture and tinfoil hattery. You're stretching to vilify CCP for something that was no human being's fault, and accusing them of "devhaxoring" to show favor..... yet, curiously, you're one of the first to snap on people when someone suggests that Goons are in bed with the entire devteam.
This was a server flub, not an intentional act.
That guy's list shows I only did 4k damage, but the notifications on my screen added up to WAY more than that. So obviously the server lost more than just a killmail.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
5yndr0m3
Origin.
Black Legion.
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 11:16:00 -
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cpu939 wrote:5yndr0m3 wrote:CCP Fox Four confirmed on reddit, that the KM was not generated due to server lag, Quote:It doesn't exist.
TiDi at less than 10% plus that many people on the killmail means server goes welp!
Also, the logs show lots... Just not anything about that killmail. Thread/thread why was that posted to reddit and not the eve forums? i really can't understand why they wouldn't post here where its so easy for all the customers of ccp to find. do the log not show damage and who did the last damage?
More people read /r/eve than the offical forums.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
21
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Posted - 2014.09.09 13:04:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Surely the logs show nothing, as the whole event was just fake...  /c
Meanwhile, at CCP HQ |
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2014.09.09 13:44:00 -
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Living up to its name - it never existed! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11424
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Posted - 2014.09.09 16:43:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
No, I wasn't there. I never tried to give any impression that I was.
Then quit with the conjecture and tinfoil hattery. You're stretching to vilify CCP for something that was no human being's fault,
Wait, what specifically are you referring to? I'm not vilifying CCP at all.
The reason I assumed that CCP moved the ship (into station in an incursion system) is because that's exactly what they did for Marlona Sky's Flight of a Thousand Rifters III. I figured the organizer of this event would want a similar environment.
Jarod Garamonde wrote:and accusing them of "devhaxoring" to show favor..... yet, curiously, you're one of the first to snap on people when someone suggests that Goons are in bed with the entire devteam.
Except that I was accusing them of doing something they've done before. And it's not to suggest that they can't or shouldn't be allowed to run events, but rather that (as far as CCP is concerned) they really shouldn't use tricks to set up a more arena-style scenario. Since they didn't, that point is moot.
Jarod Garamonde wrote:This was a server flub, not an intentional act.
That guy's list shows I only did 4k damage, but the notifications on my screen added up to WAY more than that. So obviously the server lost more than just a killmail.
Okay? I know why the killmail wasn't generated. The killmail had nothing to do with my point. My main point was simply that events like this are dumb because of how they're essentially fake, content and a rare ship kill handed to you on a silver platter without any effort involved.
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:46:00 -
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God, some of you are so sour about all this.
As far as I can see, the fun is just continuing with the speculation of who actually won from all the KM and battle log reconstructions. It's kinda like the Florida chad situation, for you yanks, and particularly appropriate for a game that celebrates a certain level of morbidity as Eve does. |
Ludy Oswald
Sirius Fleet
0
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Posted - 2014.09.09 18:18:00 -
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I suggest CCP handing out T-Shirts to everyone who was in the system at the time.
It should read: "I tried to ***** on the Revenant kill mail and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" or something alike.
That would be lush. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1969
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Posted - 2014.09.09 19:34:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
No, I wasn't there. I never tried to give any impression that I was.
Then quit with the conjecture and tinfoil hattery. You're stretching to vilify CCP for something that was no human being's fault, Wait, what specifically are you referring to? I'm not vilifying CCP at all. The reason I assumed that CCP moved the ship (into station in an incursion system) is because that's exactly what they did for Marlona Sky's Flight of a Thousand Rifters III. I figured the organizer of this event would want a similar environment. Jarod Garamonde wrote:and accusing them of "devhaxoring" to show favor..... yet, curiously, you're one of the first to snap on people when someone suggests that Goons are in bed with the entire devteam. Except that I was accusing them of doing something they've done before. And it's not to suggest that they can't or shouldn't be allowed to run events, but rather that (as far as CCP is concerned) they really shouldn't use tricks to set up a more arena-style scenario. Since they didn't, that point is moot. Jarod Garamonde wrote:This was a server flub, not an intentional act.
That guy's list shows I only did 4k damage, but the notifications on my screen added up to WAY more than that. So obviously the server lost more than just a killmail. Okay? I know why the killmail wasn't generated. The killmail had nothing to do with my point. My main point was simply that events like this are dumb because of how they're essentially fake, content and a rare ship kill handed to you on a silver platter without any effort involved.
I think we're starting to arrive at a common ground, here.
Let me say this, though.... the event happened in lowsec, off-station. No sentry guns, no CONCORD. It was a 4800-person free-for-all, pretty much. You come in, and you're liable to get blapped by just about anyone on grid. And unlike in Marlona's event, the Revenant was shooting back.
If this were truly the kind of situation you want to see it as, the Rev would have been devhacked into highsec and flagged itself suspect, so that all you could do is shoot the Rev without getting insta-CONCORDoken'd.
Or perhaps system lockdown after the first 1500 people got in.
None of those things happened. There was risk involved, and lots of it. Not just from other people, but from the target, itself.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Foxstar Damaskeenus
Soul Takers
205
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:00:00 -
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This thread is like in fleet chat when I have to type "killmail? "who got the ******* killmail? this your first day playing eve?" |
Zaryte
Sons-of-Liberty
The Unthinkables
50
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Posted - 2014.09.10 22:43:00 -
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Ludy Oswald wrote:I suggest CCP handing out T-Shirts to everyone who was in the system at the time.
It should read: "I tried to ***** on the Revenant kill mail and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" or something alike.
That would be lush.
http://i.imgur.com/PxlTOCI.png |
Drigo Segvian
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3
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Posted - 2014.09.10 23:01:00 -
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Last time I bother with an event. At least I got in shot the thing and got out alive after it died.....  |
Tsukinosuke
Id Est
The Volition Cult
10
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Posted - 2014.09.12 16:57:00 -
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CHECK Crimewatch Logs, Flags, Limited Engagement Flag, Kuro Hakaisha..
anti-antagonist-á "not a friend of enemy of antagonist" |
Celestal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.09.12 18:38:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:However, always remember: that kill will be "REAL PVP" lol :P Nothing like 2000+ players whoring on a killmail :P
Oh what irony this coming from an alliance that runs from ships that can shoot back , I hear you kids left the alliance tournament in a hissy fit when you learnt that the opposition was allowed to fire back ?
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