My own thoughts on the Event.

5,000 players in Nisuwa showed up to explode a rare Revenant Super-Carrier under increasingly difficult conditions. Were you there? What was your experience like? I'm starting this thread because Erlendur made me do eet.

Was this a CCP server test? Or was this a great time had by all?

Feedback, opinions, experiences, let 'em fly.

Excellent, and I have read those reports believe it or not. So this begs the question, what are our options? Given the technical limitations on server load and the increasing amount of reporting needing to be done, crime-watch, drones, etc., what are legitimate options for massive fleet battles or events?

Is it time to consider a hard limit on per system player numbers? What else can be done?

PS: I'm no fan of limits and I would never recommend them. Perhaps this is just one of those things that has no real answer. At least, not yet. 5,000 ships, each with their own modules, guns, drones, effects, sec status, etc, etc. There is only so much computing power available.

I'm sure it's all very impressive technically, but as a playing experience it's fairly horrible. Not trying to moan about this, that's just my genuine opinion. When you have 5 minutes before the game responds to a warp command, and modules start doing random buggy things, that's way beyond any sort of reasonable limit.

Couple quick thoughts:


1) Is it possible to just turn off crimewatch in a LS system undergoing this level of tidi? Not an ideal solution, but at the same time not really a big loss in giant fleet situations either.

2) How about stopping drone use entirely in particularly heavy tidi? People can still turn up, just have to use non-drone ships. Obviously this sort of artificial limitation isn't at all ideal, and the droneswarm changes mentioned above will deal with the issue longterm, but if it makes big fleet fights more bearable that's clearly superior to the current situation.

Don't act like teenagers about this, ye knew exactly what ye were infor.

Personally I had an awesome/awful(in equal measure) experience.

Cool event , glad I got to take a shot at the ship.
I Hate tidi and despise that modules cease working, in all honesty I could put up with it if I knew my modules would work, that said , good job to ccp for shoveling hamsters into the machine like they did and kept the node running, seriously o7.

I'm not going to demand the killmail, but I would certainly like to hear something about it from ccp.

Couple quick thoughts:


1) Is it possible to just turn off crimewatch in a LS system undergoing this level of tidi? Not an ideal solution, but at the same time not really a big loss in giant fleet situations either.

2) How about stopping drone use entirely in particularly heavy tidi? People can still turn up, just have to use non-drone ships. Obviously this sort of artificial limitation isn't at all ideal, and the droneswarm changes mentioned above will deal with the issue longterm, but if it makes big fleet fights more bearable that's clearly superior to the current situation.

No sir, I did not know as a new player. Never ever heard of TiDi nor do I like it. I will never do such a event again and if this what Null Sec is like I will stay in low sec or unsub.

Hard population cap is not the answer; that will become a tactic where the cap will be used to lock people out and avoid a fight.

In terms of answers:

1. More servers :) Just this week we were preparing RFPs for new hardware, to replace TQ.
2. Team Gridlock is continuing on rewriting Dogma and on the Brain-in-a-Box project. There are also other things on the table such as drone-swarms where all drones act in a swarm like one drone, this would be similar to the grouped gun system. Given the O(n^2) nature of drones this would significantly reduce load in certain scenarios.
3. The last part is more tricky and the one we would appreciate feedback: How can we spread large fights over multiple systems in such a manner that it's fun for everyone involved? Some sort of a simultaneous mega-objective across multiple systems but only when there are many involved so you could still have single-system fights depending on man-power (we don't want to require people to always have 3000+ pilot fleets). This happened in B-R since there were fights in the staging systems and Titans and fleets were intercepted en route to B-R.

Having said that, it wouldn't be hard to imagine three super-carriers - one each in different low-sec regions - having effectively spread the load that landed on Nisuwa. Again, this might be incredibly difficult to plan in most cases.

In terms of answers:

1. The last part is more tricky and the one we would appreciate feedback: How can we spread large fights over multiple systems in such a manner that it's fun for everyone involved? Some sort of a simultaneous mega-objective across multiple systems but only when there are many involved so you could still have single-system fights depending on man-power (we don't want to require people to always have 3000+ pilot fleets). This happened in B-R since there were fights in the staging systems and Titans and fleets were intercepted en route to B-R.

No on both, because if we did that then Time Dilation stops being a method to mitigate/spread load and instead becomes a game mechanic.

All of the above except I am moaning about it. We customers have been experiencing lag for far too long. Yes CCP, you keep coming up with grand announcements over how you've improved this and how you've analysed that but the lag remains.