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Saisin
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:38:00 -
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I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month...
Better late than never, I guess.
CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining...
https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400
"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! "
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope
http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
10624
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:39:00 -
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This may not be so much the end of downtime, as it may be a way to deliver quick fixes without having the players wait a day to get it.
Stop tolling me. Im jnot drunk...-áIm going to stop posti --Pepper the Penguin
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4530
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Posted - 2014.09.07 00:50:00 -
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Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! "
It never ceases to amaze me how people interpret things. "Today we patched outside of downtime" =/= "we're getting rid of downtime." If they were getting rid of downtime they'd say, "we're getting rid of downtime." I don't know, maybe they are, but because they haven't said so explicitly, neither do you.
I know all this sounds kind of trivial, but this is exactly the reason science denial exists - people who 'reinterpret' things or derive a meaning from them that doesn't exist based on what they think the words mean, or by adding their own to give it a new meaning that it never had, or whatever.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
185
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:09:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! " It never ceases to amaze me how people interpret things. "Today we patched outside of downtime" =/= "we're getting rid of downtime."
Apart from he said "CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining..."
Which is also what CCP have said multiple times on Devblogs and at Fanfest: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/death-to-downtimes/
Quote:We will continue our efforts on reducing daily downtime, until we reach the ultimate goal of no daily downtime, I'll leave you with these graphs that show you the road towards no daily downtime.
Ironically you're the one who has done the reinterpretation of what he said and ranted about it.
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Prophet Tier
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:11:00 -
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RossMP9999 wrote:@erlendur I'm guessing this is ultimately for hot fixes during server intensive episodes?
erlendur wrote:@RossMP9999 There are many steps towards death of downtime, this was one.
This might be relevant.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4530
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:16:00 -
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Congratulations, you just linked a devpost from 2010. I do not stand corrected in criticising the use of only the quote above to mean something it did not explicitly mean.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1949
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:24:00 -
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Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! "
I still want them to go back to 1hr DT, like the good ol days.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4531
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:27:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! " I still want them to go back to 1hr DT, like the good ol days.
I prefer having a downtime to not having one, even if it wasn't necessary.
I reset my router at home every 24 hours for the same reason.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
1949
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Posted - 2014.09.07 01:29:00 -
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#bringbackeve23seven
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16763
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Posted - 2014.09.07 04:11:00 -
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Bring back hour downtimes, nightmare patch weeks, deleted windows boot files, and Devs who accidentally the server.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4533
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Posted - 2014.09.07 04:16:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Bring back hour downtimes, nightmare patch weeks, deleted windows boot files, and Devs who accidentally the server.
Yeah... don't know if they can bring him back.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Josef Djugashvilis
2504
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Posted - 2014.09.07 07:51:00 -
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Daily down time is so short now a days, does anyone really care about it?
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Saisin
State War Academy
Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2014.09.07 08:14:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Daily down time is so short now a days, does anyone really care about it?
it can be exploited...
say you are in a sieged and bubbled pos with a valuable ship..
disconnect from there then a few seconds before next downtime reconnect and be disconnected after a few seconds by the downtime but you will still be in warp, so the next time you log in your ship will be way outside of the sieged pos, free to go wherever you want...
Not very much point to siege POSes to get loots and kill trapped ships while downtime is around..
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope
http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1195
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Posted - 2014.09.07 09:30:00 -
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I thought the beginning of the end of downtime was the part where it stopped being a full hour?
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Dave Stark
6840
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Posted - 2014.09.07 09:40:00 -
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didn't that patch kick everyone off eve?
as in, that's a horrible thing that should never be repeated ever again? |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
867
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Posted - 2014.09.07 10:55:00 -
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How would that even work, pushing a patch to the server and the client while people are actively playing?
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
Reverberation Project
430
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Posted - 2014.09.07 10:58:00 -
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More importantly, when the hell am I supposed to take a shower now? 
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Medalyn Isis
Rosewood Productions
Stain Confederation
306
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:05:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! " It never ceases to amaze me how people interpret things. "Today we patched outside of downtime" =/= "we're getting rid of downtime." If they were getting rid of downtime they'd say, "we're getting rid of downtime." I don't know, maybe they are, but because they haven't said so explicitly, neither do you. I know all this sounds kind of trivial, but this is exactly the reason science denial exists - people who 'reinterpret' things or derive a meaning from them that doesn't exist based on what they think the words mean, or by adding their own to give it a new meaning that it never had, or whatever.
Weren't you meant to be quitting and never coming back? I seem to remember a giant threadought in which you had a hissy fit and said you would be quitting eve for good. lol |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1522
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:07:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:How would that even work, pushing a patch to the server and the client while people are actively playing?
One presumes that it would only work with server only patches and client patches would have a specific downtime for them allocated.
A daily downtime is a good idea in my books though as it allows for everyone to breathe, and stops week long tidi battles melting hardware also by putting a max time limit on fights. |
Pine Marten
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
68
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:59:00 -
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Coming up on 4 years and we still have a downtime. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4543
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Posted - 2014.09.07 12:34:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Saisin wrote:I did not find any reference on these forums about this tweet posted by CCP Erlendur earlier this month... Better late than never, I guess. CCP is working in the background to eradicate down time, and this is great news, even if there are many steps remaining... https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/506921664689766400"Today we did the first #eveonline patch outside the downtime period and without a server reboot. Always improving! " It never ceases to amaze me how people interpret things. "Today we patched outside of downtime" =/= "we're getting rid of downtime." If they were getting rid of downtime they'd say, "we're getting rid of downtime." I don't know, maybe they are, but because they haven't said so explicitly, neither do you. I know all this sounds kind of trivial, but this is exactly the reason science denial exists - people who 'reinterpret' things or derive a meaning from them that doesn't exist based on what they think the words mean, or by adding their own to give it a new meaning that it never had, or whatever. Weren't you meant to be quitting and never coming back? I seem to remember a giant threadought in which you had a hissy fit and said you would be quitting eve for good. lol
Let's pretend for a second that you're not trying to dodge my point, which you are, but we'll pretend you're not. The 'hissy fit' never happened, and there's a difference between 'banning CCP from my money for a month' and 'quitting forever'. I made it quite plain I was doing the former.
Maybe you should try taking a break yourself, it seems like you need it. Although I'm not sure how long it takes to untwist panties but, take all the time you need.
I'll look after your stuff.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Medalyn Isis
Rosewood Productions
Stain Confederation
306
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Posted - 2014.09.07 13:06:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:The 'hissy fit' never happened, and there's a difference between 'banning CCP from my money for a month' and 'quitting forever'. I made it quite plain I was doing the former.
Ok, so now you have added being deceitful and dishonourable worm to your vices.
You thought that thread was deleted huh? Well nothing escapes the inescapable eye of Chribba
http://eve-search.com/thread/333104-1/page/1#1 |
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
190
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Posted - 2014.09.07 14:26:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The 'hissy fit' never happened, and there's a difference between 'banning CCP from my money for a month' and 'quitting forever'. I made it quite plain I was doing the former. Ok, so now you have added being deceitful and dishonourable worm to your vices. You thought that thread was deleted huh? Well nothing escapes the inescapable eye of Chribba http://eve-search.com/thread/333104-1/page/1#1
He's just a terrible troll who constantly likes to 'refine' what he's said, because he's not very good at it. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4544
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Posted - 2014.09.07 14:34:00 -
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rofflesausage wrote:Medalyn Isis wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The 'hissy fit' never happened, and there's a difference between 'banning CCP from my money for a month' and 'quitting forever'. I made it quite plain I was doing the former. Ok, so now you have added being deceitful and dishonourable worm to your vices. You thought that thread was deleted huh? Well nothing escapes the inescapable eye of Chribba http://eve-search.com/thread/333104-1/page/1#1 He's just a terrible troll who constantly likes to 'refine' what he's said, because he's not very good at it.
No refining necessary. I knew what post she was talking about, and I never tried to hide it. That's not a hissy fit, and the only people calling that a hissy fit are people that can't argue against my points and need to bring irrelevant information up and use it as personal attacks. That, or they already don't like me, and I don't really care whether you like me or not. So, let's pretend it was a hissy fit and you got me.
What's your point? What makes it relevant here? And why should I care?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
ImYourMom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2014.09.07 14:49:00 -
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If people really find being away from eve for 30 mins is that big of a problem then you really need to get out more and explore the outside world because it's a wonderful place |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6051
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:21:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how people interpret things. "Today we patched outside of downtime" =/= "we're getting rid of downtime." If they were getting rid of downtime they'd say, "we're getting rid of downtime." I don't know, maybe they are, but because they haven't said so explicitly, neither do you.
I know all this sounds kind of trivial, but this is exactly the reason science denial exists - people who 'reinterpret' things or derive a meaning from them that doesn't exist based on what they think the words mean, or by adding their own to give it a new meaning that it never had, or whatever.
CCP have stated on many occasions that their goal is to eradicate the daily downtime completely. I'm not sure which part of that is so difficult to understand.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24486
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:26:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP have stated on many occasions that their goal is to eradicate the daily downtime completely. I'm not sure which part of that is so difficult to understand.
Probably the part where nothing about patching outside of downtime is mentioned, and the part where non-downtime patching does not correlate with the removal of downtime, since downtime isn't caused by patching.
Yes, they're trying to remove downtime, but that still doesn't mean you can infer that goal from this feat.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2123
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:16:00 -
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... thinks eliminating LAG would be a far more prudent use of resources... TiDi being nothing more than the lesser of two evils.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13009
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Posted - 2014.09.07 20:18:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... thinks eliminating LAG would be a far more prudent use of resources... TiDi being nothing more than the lesser of two evils.
CCP cant do anything about that.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
1665
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Posted - 2014.09.08 01:18:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... thinks eliminating LAG would be a far more prudent use of resources... TiDi being nothing more than the lesser of two evils.
You can't eliminate latency. Signals do not travel instantly and no matter how short the time may be it always takes time for a computer to perform any function.
Unless you intend for CCP to invent quantum computers, faster than light telecommunications and precognizant software then implement those technologies on a global scale you're always going to have to contend with lag. |
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