new players will stay rather than quit because the game is so passive

You my friend have hit the trifecta of trolldom. Congratulations.

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2. You posted an idea that has been suggested so many times, it has it's own office at CCP HQ.
3. You posted an idea so terrible, it has a special place in the ninth circle of hell for all its supporters.

Your entire opening post is hereby rendered invalid, and this thread is now about literally any other topic.

I'll start us off.

I bought an automatic litter box for my cats and it's...well, useless would be a good word. My cats literally pee so much at one time, it clumps up and the rake can't scoop it into the little bin. I'm wondering if I attached a Chevy small block 350 instead of the dinky little electric motor it has now if that would overcome the issue.

Any suggestions?

If I am away for a month with work I like that my 39 day skill is chugging away. I don't want to have to spend all of my EVE time grinding away on the space equivalent of boars in the woods like some other terrible grindy games.

I understand that and I agree. But my suggestion was not to remove this but simply have the addition of rewarded experience when we are playing.

This may have been posted many times. But like I said I am new to the game (forums included) so i am unaware of this im simply giving my opinion and suggestions.. which is the purpose of these forums.

I figured its a common request but if it improves the game then thats a good thing.

Be sure to install a pipe to the outside for the exhaust and fit rubber dampers to lesson the vibrations.

Players are passive because they are playing a passive game.. they benifit the same if they sit docked doing nothing as they would doing anything else.

Hmm. Maybe I've finally found a use for the motor in my wife's Prius.

Ok so I have been playing eve for around 2 months now and I am enjoying it. I would say though that if it wasnt for me having friends that also play this game I would have defiantly quit by now as I feel the training is rather boring.

I thought Id make some suggestions that would help to make eve more fun to play and skilling to me more interactive. I think that it would be a good idea lets say for example when training for skills such as missiles that instead of your skill points ticking over a period of time that your use of these weapons also generates skill points in addition to the passive skill point generation. This wouldnt have to be a drastic amount but just something to make pvp or mining a bit more rewarding.

I feel that with a change like this eve space would be much more active and less people sitting docked or offline waiting for those skills to increase.

Tell me what you think? Do you agree/ disagree? I know those who have already played for years and have had to deal with things the way they are now will feel like they are losing out and that experience is being too easy to get but put it this way.. It would greatly increase activity and bring more players into the game and perhaps new players will stay rather than quit because the game is so passive, this is better for everyone I feel.. 1 way or another.

But then is it fair to new player that have to play catch up with people playing 5 year's plus with no way to close the gap? new players are at a great disadvantage.

Players are passive because they are playing a passive game

But then is it fair to new player that have to play catch up with people playing 5 year's plus

But then is it fair to new player that have to play catch up with people playing 5 year's plus with no way to close the gap? new players are at a great disadvantage.

New players learn faster.

Not anymore.

EDIT:
The new player training boost has been gone for a while (believe ever since the learning skills were deleted).
However there is a booster that increases your attributes as a new player and thus gives you a training boost, but it's not by default anymore as it used to be.

I thought Id make some suggestions that would help to make eve more fun to play and skilling to me more interactive. I think that it would be a good idea lets say for example when training for skills such as missiles that instead of your skill points ticking over a period of time that your use of these weapons also generates skill points in addition to the passive skill point generation. This wouldnt have to be a drastic amount but just something to make pvp or mining a bit more rewarding.

Low level skills are far faster to learn

You can learn 20 odd skills to level 3 in the time it takes to learn one skill from 4 to 5

Too bad that doesnt mean they train faster.

That means they train quicker. Both skills have the same SP/h (given we talk about same attributes etc) and thus train as fast.

A skill will take the same amount of time to train, no matter how old a character is.

So character age has nothing in advance on how quickly you train something.

If I am away for a month with work I like that my 39 day skill is chugging away. I don't want to have to spend all of my EVE time grinding away on the space equivalent of boars in the woods like some other terrible grindy games.

You my friend have hit the trifecta of trolldom. Congratulations.

1. You posted in the wrong forum section.
2. You posted an idea that has been suggested so many times, it has it's own office at CCP HQ.
3. You posted an idea so terrible, it has a special place in the ninth circle of hell for all its supporters.

Your entire opening post is hereby rendered invalid, and this thread is now about literally any other topic.

I'll start us off.

I bought an automatic litter box for my cats and it's...well, useless would be a good word. My cats literally pee so much at one time, it clumps up and the rake can't scoop it into the little bin. I'm wondering if I attached a Chevy small block 350 instead of the dinky little electric motor it has now if that would overcome the issue.

Any suggestions?