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Kaely Tanniss
Aurora Novae Aetatis
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:22:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Difficult subject don't think there's any easy answer, if there was they would have found it already.
Not everyone wants to be in a large corp., some new people complain that they start in a corp.
Single player corps. should remain possible for those that do not want to be in a player/npc corp. as well as this is a sandbox and as such you shouldn't impose too many artificial restrictions.
As for dodging war-decs what's better having people actually playing the game being able to dodge the war-dec or having people sitting in a station getting bored or playing something else for the duration of the war-dec?
There's also the people with multiple accounts that dodge war-decs by not playing the one with the war-dec during the duration of the war-dec. How would you stop them dodging it?
This is true..ad you make a good point. There is no easy solution that will please all. The best that can be hoped for is a solution or compromise that best suits the majority...whatever that may be.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it.. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4618
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:26:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
Congratulations, shame other people would rather whine about it than exploit the opportunities.
You don't know Kaely like I do, so you can be forgiven for your ignorance, but trust me when I tell you she's not whining. She helped me steal aforementioned corp. All Kaely is trying to do is raise some much-needed constructive discussion on this topic because there is, indeed, a requirement for discussion on this toping. On one hand, yes, wardecs can be quite the buzzkill for some, if not many, players. Perhaps even some players that won't admit to said decs being a buzzkill.
On the other hand, those same players should already know what they're getting themselves into, and if they don't, then that's either their own fault for not studying up on the game (ie ignorance, willful or otherwise), or it's CCP's fault for not making it abundantly clear.
I think this is worth some legitimate discussion. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
251
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:28:00 -
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And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4618
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:30:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do?
You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that.... GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaely Tanniss
Aurora Novae Aetatis
26
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:31:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do?
Of course they do, like anyone can. :)
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it.. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
251
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:32:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that....
Why do you think I'm still in NPC after 8 years?
War dec away, cry a river when I never undock.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6072
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:34:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:A massive amount of players have no interest in pvp, get over it.
A massive amount of players & CCP themselves have no interest in EVE becoming an X-series clone that just happens to have players starring as non-violent NPC's, get over it. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Gevlon Goblin fan.
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Babylonian Harlot
Bad Girl Posse
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:34:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that.... Why do you think I'm still in NPC after 8 years? War dec away, cry a river when I never undock.
This is me,
The entire alliance. (if you have a mind to waste your ISK)
Makes it easier than running replies with all my alts |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4618
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:34:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that.... Why do you think I'm still in NPC after 8 years? War dec away, cry a river when I never undock.
You strawmanned, I countered. We weren't talking about using NPC assets to haul war materials during wardecs in order to aid the war effort, we were talking about avoiding the war altogether.
Reading is hard. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Victor Andall
756
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:35:00 -
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OP, be honest. Did your corp wardec a single-member corporation, which then disbanded so you came to the forums to whine about unfair treatment? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9582
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:35:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:you do realise this entire thread is basically people whining that they've been beaten at pvp on the meta level, so apparently as compensation they feel entitled to free kills? Your determination to misinterpret this is impressive. well, that's pretty much all it is. pvp isn't limited to spaceship violence, and the people winning at pvp seem to be the ones not being wardecced... the resulting mewling is rather amusing.
No, that's not how this works.
You do not get to recharacterize extreme risk aversion manifesting itself by blatant abuse of an as yet unpatched exploit as "winning meta PvP".
There is no moral equivalency here. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4623
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:38:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:OP, be honest. Did your corp wardec a single-member corporation, which then disbanded so you came to the forums to whine about unfair treatment?
Read thread first, then post.
Don't bother now though, I can't think of anyone who enjoys the taste of foot... GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
251
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:39:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that.... Why do you think I'm still in NPC after 8 years? War dec away, cry a river when I never undock. You strawmanned, I countered. We weren't talking about using NPC assets to haul war materials during wardecs in order to aid the war effort, we were talking about people in corps avoiding the wars altogether by way of rolling/quitting corp. Reading is hard.
I read the OP, not the derailed version,
Add this as well. Or were you just smack talking? |
Dave stark
6845
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:40:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dave Stark wrote:you do realise this entire thread is basically people whining that they've been beaten at pvp on the meta level, so apparently as compensation they feel entitled to free kills? Your determination to misinterpret this is impressive. well, that's pretty much all it is. pvp isn't limited to spaceship violence, and the people winning at pvp seem to be the ones not being wardecced... the resulting mewling is rather amusing. No, that's not how this works. You do not get to recharacterize extreme risk aversion manifesting itself by blatant abuse of an as yet unpatched exploit as "winning meta PvP". There is no moral equivalency here.
people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4623
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:42:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sisohiv wrote:And I'm sure corporations that make a business of War dec'ing never use NPC corp alts to scout targets or remote rep or run assets to strategic locations during war.
Do as I say, don't do as I do? You mean, just like a defending corp could do? How about that.... Why do you think I'm still in NPC after 8 years? War dec away, cry a river when I never undock. You strawmanned, I countered. We weren't talking about using NPC assets to haul war materials during wardecs in order to aid the war effort, we were talking about people in corps avoiding the wars altogether by way of rolling/quitting corp. Reading is hard. I read the OP, not the derailed version, Add this as well. Or were you just smack talking?
I don't know, it's hard to keep up with irrelevance, it's so easy to miss. I would have missed yours as well if it wasn't for all that intentional obtusity you started out with. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6074
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:42:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable?
To be fair it is a stupid mechanic, but it's pretty hilarious too. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Dave stark
6845
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Dave Stark wrote:people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable? To be fair it is a stupid mechanic, but it's pretty hilarious too.
I'm not denying it's a stupid mechanic.
But we're stuck with, as i pointed out earlier, something hilariously abusable or something that's hilariously easy to trivialise. |
Kaely Tanniss
Aurora Novae Aetatis
26
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:44:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:OP, be honest. Did your corp wardec a single-member corporation, which then disbanded so you came to the forums to whine about unfair treatment?
No. I see no point in wardeccing a single person corp. The reason I brought it up to begin with is because it has been a topic of discussion..and a topic that deserves discussion. The truth is, it doesn't affect me either way. I don't dec 1 man corps so it's never been an issue. But there are those that do and since they don't or won't speak on the matter, I did it to try to gain constructive ideas on the matter. I didn't post it to "annoy" people..or because I am "butthert" a single man corp quit on me...that's not it at all. try to offer legitimate options or input...that's the point of it.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it.. |
Reldor Silverheart
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:44:00 -
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It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
He constnatly taunts and aggragate people to decc him, but he does no mean hold up the other end of the bargain he sets. If you look at his corp history his list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG with closing and creating the same corp over and over again.
Folding a corp upon getting wardecced and then recreating it is utter BS, there should be a cost or penalty. Or even be blocked from closing it for the duration of the war. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4623
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:45:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable?
Every time you call it whining, you dodge all the points made. All you've done is whine about Kaely's whining, but you haven't addressed one single point or offered anything constructive to this discussion. Please, tell me what's wrong with the ideas posted, try doing so with some maturity and sensibility, you know, like an adult would, and maybe we can have a thread that doesn't devolve into complete and utter primordial sludge. Is it really too much to ask for people to say, "hey, that's a bad idea, and here's why I think so" instead of "rage rage qq go away etc etc..." on these forums?
Until you offer a counter to the ideas put forward, there's no reason to dismiss them. Do you understand this? Let's say for argument's sake, Kaely IS whining. You still haven't argued the points that matter here. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4623
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:46:00 -
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Reldor Silverheart wrote:It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
He constnatly taunts and aggragate people to decc him, but he does no mean hold up the other end of the bargain he sets. If you look at his corp history his list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG with closing and creating the same corp over and over again.
Folding a corp upon getting wardecced and then recreating it is utter BS, there should be a cost or penalty. Or even be blocked from closing it for the duration of the war.
So you're in favour of preventing James from folding his corp to avoid wardecs? Excellent, that's a +1 for the "save PVP" crowd. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6075
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:46:00 -
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Reldor Silverheart wrote:It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
The really funny thing is how people seem to believe that people agree with everything that the leader of their group says or does. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9584
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:47:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote: people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable?
When the developers themselves come down from The Mount and say "EVE is a PvP game"?
Yep, that does mean that crying about getting blown up is wrong.
But you don't get to claim that an attempt to start a dialogue on a painfully broken mechanic and obvious exploit constitutes "crying". The OP doesn't read like that, unless someone happens to inject their own agenda into it anyway. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4628
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:47:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Dave Stark wrote:people who whine about getting blown up get told to adapt
when they adapt and deny people kills and people whine about it, their whining about it is acceptable? To be fair it is a stupid mechanic, but it's pretty hilarious too. I'm not denying it's a stupid mechanic. But we're stuck with, as i pointed out earlier, something hilariously abusable or something that's hilariously easy to trivialise.
Which I pointed out as a false dichotomy, and tried to encourage some discussion. What you could do is correct me and tell me what makes it a true dichotomy, if I'm wrong. Go ahead, I'm waiting. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9584
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:48:00 -
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Reldor Silverheart wrote:It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
He constnatly taunts and aggragate people to decc him, but he does no mean hold up the other end of the bargain he sets. If you look at his corp history his list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG with closing and creating the same corp over and over again.
Folding a corp upon getting wardecced and then recreating it is utter BS, there should be a cost or penalty. Or even be blocked from closing it for the duration of the war.
Congratulations, you don't get the point. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Reldor Silverheart
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:51:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Reldor Silverheart wrote:It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
He constnatly taunts and aggragate people to decc him, but he does no mean hold up the other end of the bargain he sets. If you look at his corp history his list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG with closing and creating the same corp over and over again.
Folding a corp upon getting wardecced and then recreating it is utter BS, there should be a cost or penalty. Or even be blocked from closing it for the duration of the war. So you're in favour of preventing James from folding his corp to avoid wardecs? Excellent, that's a +1 for the "save PVP" crowd.
PvP is an integral part of this game, like it or not. In my opinion one man corps hold little place in terms of actual value to the game, since the game in the long for you to actually be succesful means that you havce to work as a team and find a group that complement eachother skillwise.
As of that, the only way to be succesful in the long run means either A. An alliance of smaller one man corps (impractical and pointless at best). Or B. Create a larger corp with the same set of values and standards.
Now, one man corps can sometimes be used as holding corps for a single pilot, i will not deny that, but in the big scheme of eve they carry little relevance and importance.
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
1034
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:51:00 -
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At risk of even jumping into what will just end up as a ISD locked flame war....
As things stand right now - anyone is free to exist in a NPC corp and never even have to get involved in corporate level warfare. They get that advantage by never joining or creating a player corp. Of course, the disadvantage they get is having to lose a chunk of their income into NPC corp taxes, which are ISK that is (as far as I understand) effectively removed from the game. It's money they could have for themselves, or for their friends. Also, things like running a POS, PI, and other options are difficult or not even possible for them (Correct me if I am wrong, never played around with PI and only know the basics of POS operations).
I'm probably missing a few points here, but I am sure other players can help me out!
Now, let's talk player run corps.
As things stand right now - once you create or join a player corp, the CEO of that corp is free to set a tax rate (including 0%!) that applies to all members. Generated money is not lost, but is kept inside the corp to be used for whatever the heck the CEO has decided it should be used for. Options for POS use and PI open up. Working together with friends who are also in the corp gets easier, communication with said friends gets easier.
Another corporation can declare war against you, and smash apart your shiny POS / PI stuff. This is good, after all - this is EVE - anything that creates more conflict is good.
So, assuming I am at least mostly right up to this point we have:
NPC Corp Advantage: Safe from corporate level warfare Disadvantage: Tax rate / Use of POS / Use of PI
Player corp Advantage: Teamwork / Income generation via taxes / POS use / PI money Disadvantage: None imposed by the system
Which brings me (Finally, sorry to take you on a long journey) to my actual point - something does not seem to quite add up here. Creating or joining a player corp has major advantages over sitting in a newbie corp, and aside from disadvantages that are 100% controlled by players (Letting awoxers into corp, getting decced, etc) - I'm not seeing any actual system based downside of being in a player corp. If someone drops a dec on you, simply have everyone drop roles and leave corp, delete corp, and 120 seconds later create a new corp with the same name, invite everyone back into corp, re-anchor all the stuff hanging in space and boom - it's like it never happened. This is how it is, so I assume CCP intends it to be this way - but I have a hard time grasping the logic behind it.
Proposed solution: Make membership in a player corp something that has very real weight and meaning. Remind players new and old that any corp that does not have the ability to even defend itself or players that understand game mechanics well enough to operate under war-dec conditions is a corp they should probably not join. Upon applying for a corp, warn members that if the corp they joined comes under war - they will be part of that war for the duration (not subject to renewal, of course) and not allowed to join another player corp until the end of whatever week the war in on.
Yeah, it sounds harsh - but just think about it (Just being honest, as this would cut into my income - horriable corps with clueless CEO's pretty much fund 100% of everything I do in eve) - we would suddenly see a huge drop in what I personally feel does more harm to the new player then any other thing in the game - clueless rookie CEO's who know nothing of the game, give their members horrid advice, and set them up for nothing but misery and failure. I've seen this so much it's not even funny (well, actually, sometimes it's quite funny - I'm sure Cannibal Kane has some better stories then I do on this matter) and I really think that if being in a player corp carried more weight it would be a good thing.
Just my long winded ranting, of course. :) Flame on! |
Oggat
The Adam's Family
36
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:52:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: I don't know, it's hard to keep up with irrelevance, it's so easy to miss. I would have missed yours as well if it wasn't for all that intentional obtusity you started out with.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5000954#post5000954
In addition, I have one man corps on the side.
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Kaely Tanniss
Aurora Novae Aetatis
26
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:54:00 -
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Well that derailed rather quickly...my point in the train wreck that this thread has become is some consider it an issue...I DO NOT...I bring it up as a topic of legitimate discussion..nothing more. That IS the purpose of the forums is it not? Whining is something I don't do...especially for an issue that doesn't effect me at all. I implore you to read the first post carefully and it should be clear what the intention of this thread was. Ideas is what we need...Ideas is what CCP needs..if every topic that is posted on forums becomes a trainwreck, how will any issues ever get addressed...whether they affect you or not. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it.. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
1040
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Posted - 2014.09.09 09:57:00 -
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Reldor Silverheart wrote:It-¦s funny when i see CODE people talking about pvp, when in relation to this thread the so called "saviour" of high sec is the main proponent for folding a corp upon getting decced.
He constnatly taunts and aggragate people to decc him, but he does no mean hold up the other end of the bargain he sets. If you look at his corp history his list is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG with closing and creating the same corp over and over again.
Folding a corp upon getting wardecced and then recreating it is utter BS, there should be a cost or penalty. Or even be blocked from closing it for the duration of the war.
Reldor, you miss the point.
Simply using every single mechanic at your disposal does not imply that one thinks that mechanic could not be improved on or changed at all is a logical folly.
Example: I personally think the MWD/Cloak trick should probably be taken a closer look at, it seems a little overpowered and a touch silly to me. Now, when I am warping my HAC through a few low sec jumps to get to the rest of my fleet, do you think I refuse to use this trick out of some sense of e-honor? Hell no, I use every game mechanic I can. Just like James 315 did during his early days.
Sometimes to call attention to an issue you need to use the heck out of it, and show CCP just how effortless it really is. I think James 315 did a pretty damn fine job of that back in those days :) |
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