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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:25:00 -
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I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
324
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:36:00 -
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TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:40:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
That doesn't change the fact that this well known "elite" pvp corp ignored a 1vs1 request. I have read they are elite pvpers, not so much it seems, any old corp can gang up 4 vs 1, that's easy.
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killer chick
Devious Decorum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:43:00 -
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shortly before this, they were in Aeschee QQ'ing about ECM and logi being on scan. and apparently my stealth bomber is a bonus loki. |
killer chick
Devious Decorum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:47:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Mekhana wrote:TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
That doesn't change the fact that this well known "elite" pvp corp ignored a 1vs1 request. I have read they are elite pvpers, not so much it seems, any old corp can gang up 4 vs 1, that's easy.
they only engage drakes and canes. if anything else is on scan, they will scatter like cockroaches. its the tusker code. |
Tirelion
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:53:00 -
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Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:56:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell.
move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. |
Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
157
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:06:00 -
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If they never agreed to give you a 1v1, it's completely honorable of them to not give you a 1v1. Your fault for engaging on the assumption that they would provide you with a 1v1, when you never had their word. |
Tirelion
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:13:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. Obviously not, unless you are referring to Killer. Telling someone to move along because the truth is painful, does not make it less true, or you any less of an idiot for thinking you had any "honorable" right to a 1v1 after the fight starts. That's like calling the insurance company and asking them to insure your car after the accident. Hopefully you are "adult" enough to understand that concept. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:21:00 -
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Everytime I play roulette, I like to wait until after the dealer has waived off all new bets to immediatley place my bet...
And then p!ss and moan about the dealer's lack of honor and the casino's reputation being worthless to the rest of the patrons I'm being 'escorted' by on my new found destination for the immediate future, the curb of the street. |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:22:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. Obviously not, unless you are referring to Killer. Telling someone to move along because the truth is painful, does not make it less true, or you any less of an idiot for thinking you had any "honorable" right to a 1v1 after the fight starts. That's like calling the insurance company and asking them to insure your car after the accident. Hopefully you are "adult" enough to understand that concept.
There is no truth denying here, any pain, or declaration of rights. I lost a drake big deal I have lost plenty and will continue to do so. I just stated the facts plain and clear in my first post. I am just saying this "elite" pvp corp can't handle a 1vs1 when asked to do so, I think the timing is a minor point. If I am disappointing you by speaking clearly and without childish name calling then you sir have some issues perhaps you should address with your guidance counsellor, its near the principals office. |
Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:49:00 -
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We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest.
I will also add that it is against the Tusker code of conduct to accept 1v1 duels. You may get lucky and get one anyway with enough warning if we are bored enough but this is generally an exception to the rule. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:56:00 -
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Grog Drinker wrote:We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest.
So... you are saying you agree with my first post? |
Super Chair
Hell's Revenge Flatline.
36
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Posted - 2011.11.24 06:33:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Grog Drinker wrote:We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest. So... you are saying you agree with my first post? And for the record this doesn't change what I said, weak and no honor.
They're saying theyll kill whoever they want, however they want, whenever they want.
Deal with it. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
105
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Posted - 2011.11.24 06:37:00 -
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You tried to get a 1v1 arranged after the fight had started? Seriously? |
Azver Deroven
Pitch Black. Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:11:00 -
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Fighting fairly means you're doing something wrong.
Sorry but it needs to be said, as convops pilot Im absolutely against any and all notions of fairness and honour (Its with U, by the way). Actually I think any fight that you commit to so you cant bugger off, but fail to have advantage is foolhardy/stupid.
Ofcourse if you arrange it beforehand with mate to see who can pimp their ride better... Then that changes everything but then its not a fair fight to begin with, its just a set-up. :P |
Dynast
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
23
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:12:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers. You cannot expect a request for 1v1 to be honored unless you ask before the fight starts. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
38
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:34:00 -
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Dynast wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers. You cannot expect a request for 1v1 to be honored unless you ask before the fight starts.
This.
I've had a number of encounters with The Tuskers, and they were as honorable as you can reliably expect a pirate to be. In fact I've been relatively impressed with a few of their pilots insomuch as they DON'T require 4 to 1 numbers before they undock, a marked improvement over my local pirates.
Sounds like you got yourself ganked, it happens, thow a GF and don't sweat it. |
Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.24 09:23:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:I'm definitely mad bro's.
Edited for truth
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
45
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Posted - 2011.11.24 09:32:00 -
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Asking for a 1v1 after the fight starts is a little late. Also, it sounds like they never said they agreed to anything, so you really can't call them dishonorable. You got ganked, deal with it. The only time you can legitimately complain about this is when both parties agree to certain conditions (ie 1v1, 2v2, 5v1 or whatever) and then they are violated. But that didn't happen in this case from the looks of it. |
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Crest Washere
T.R.I.A.D
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 10:52:00 -
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Tusker code
Quote:I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it. They wouldn't have agreed anyway.
You asked for a 1-v-1 after you started a fight with a known pirate, surely he will respect that... You made a mistake, this doesn't make the other party weak or without honor.
blame yourself for this foolish mistake and go on without trying to ruin the reputation of one of couple "honorable" pirate corps out there. |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
20
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Posted - 2011.11.24 11:05:00 -
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Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further.
However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once.
P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
8
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Posted - 2011.11.24 12:15:00 -
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I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts. Music for robots, hackers, pirates, geeks and miscellaneous nerds. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 12:57:00 -
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Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc.
"The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps?
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
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Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:08:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
My douche detectors going crazy here
Transfer you 58 million ISK and you will consider the matter closed?
Your tears are so tasty, either post chat logs to him as requested or shut up, spouting your whiney ass mouth on the thread just makes you look a tool |
Nihi Lismus
ScrapYard Wolves Laika.
29
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:13:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. lol... the only thing, that shadow cartel is doing, are docking games at station with 20 Abaddons and 3++ Triage Archons... sure, everyone who doesn't have that backUp must be stupid xD |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:16:00 -
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Keltaris Cesaille wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
My douche detectors going crazy here Transfer you 58 million ISK and you will consider the matter closed? Your tears are so tasty, either post chat logs to him as requested or shut up, spouting your whiney ass mouth on the thread just makes you look a tool
We already had one douche in this thread there isn't room for another. Again with the childish name calling, go back to Wow and let the men settle this matter. |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:17:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. "The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps? Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf. Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
Not a bad link, our forum host is just awful currently (upgraded a few days ago, had about 30% uptime since then). Please try again later I'm sure...
If you could provide a copy of the chat log where a 1v1 was agreed to prior to the fight rather than just screaming '1v1! 1v1! 1v1!' in local after the rest of the gang landed on grid when you attacked a bait ship then I'm sure the mattered can be settled in a sensible and mature manner (you know, not whining on official forums, contacting official corp representitives in game, that kind of thing).
I'm not entirely sure how you think what amounts to a blackmail attempt ('pay me and I will publicly declare you honourable') is a morally superior attitude to that of my corpmates.
If you'd like a fairer fight then you are welcome to come to Hev and declare that you're looking for a fair solo fight. While we don't generally agree to 1v1s, you'll find a lot of us like gfgf more than killmails and there are plenty of Tusker pilots who enjoy testing themselves in solo combat and will happily rage on vent if the rest of the corp tries interfering in their hunt/fight/kill...
Otherwise, feel free to engage things in top belt OMS and then claim that calling for a 1v1 after you're pointed/half dead because other ships landed on grid is a legitimate grievance. |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:20:00 -
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Destru Kaneda wrote:I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts.
This is gross slander and will not stand!
Personally I'm both awful at EvE and a terrible person. |
Thestarling
Repo.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:44:00 -
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Tawa Suyo wrote:Destru Kaneda wrote:I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts. This is gross slander and will not stand! Personally I'm both awful at EvE and a terrible person.
Confirming this is true.
I also had a similar experience with the Tuskers, and I also raged for a few days, albeit mostly to my wife and two poodles. Somehow this poor corp has got the reputation that they *always* fight fair and would never blob or fight at anything more than a disadvantage. Such high and unreasonable expectations, no one could succeed in EVE if they acted that way.
The truth is, and if you did your research and took a peek at their killboard it would be obvious, they fight like any other pirate/FW/null sec corp. Which means, they kill you any way they can.
What sets them apart from the crowd is that they do what they say in-game. Which is pretty damn honorable for a bunch of internet space pirates.
Thestarling Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
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Kishin Hattori
The Tuskers
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:03:00 -
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As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight...
Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add)
[ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage.
Here is the full OMS chat log...
n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel
So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill.
You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner.
Take care.
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Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
21
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:11:00 -
[32] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:["The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps?
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
The link is working fine for me. However our forums are going through an upgrade, so that might have caused the issue. Try this link instead.
I am not against giving you 58M (should be less in any case due to insurance) if you can prove that an infraction of our Code occurred via chatlogs etc. Needless to say, if you can prove this, this will not be the only action taken.
As far as I am aware, our pilots warped in to assist their corpmate. Requesting that they not engage is a perfectly valid tactic, but as long as they didn't state that they would abide by it, I see no problem.
We do actually solo a fair bit. You can check this by perusing our killboard.
As for honor, we do not claim we are honorable. Instead, we claim (and have yet to be proven otherwise in this thread) that we follow through with what we say.
Another tip for you: if you want a "fair" fight, I suggest coming to Hevrice and asking for one. We have had a fair few pilots come here to fight us (mostly in frigates) and most of the time we accommodate them if they speak out, often down shipping to give them a "fair" fight. |
Kishin Hattori
The Tuskers
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:16:00 -
[33] - Quote
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:I am not against giving you 58M (should be less in any case due to insurance) if you can prove that an infraction of our Code occurred via chatlogs etc. Needless to say, if you can prove this, this will not be the only action taken.
Look up Sulei
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:29:00 -
[34] - Quote
Kishin Hattori wrote:As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight... Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage. Here is the full OMS chat log... n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill. You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner. Take care.
Chat logs can be faked everyone knows that.
First off i have not seen this code that your corp speaks of and a code implies honor which you clearly have violated. Secondly, i demand payment based on your dishonorable actions of calling in help. Third, no payment is an acknowledgement of cowardice.
Lastly - Looking for well established corp that is an enemy of The Tuskers. Contact me in game or reply below. These scum need to receive a good old fashion spanking. Their mothers where most likely absent harlots and abandoned them resulting in their inability to act with honor.
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
107
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:36:00 -
[35] - Quote
This has got to be an elaborate troll... no one can seriously be this angry about getting ganked. |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
22
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:39:00 -
[36] - Quote
The link I provided should work. We do not say that we are are honorable as that is subjective. Many people such as yourself would argue that we are not honorable.
However, we do follow through with our word. If you can prove that a Tusker lied to you and not in obvious jest e.g. one of us said he wouldn't shoot you but he died, then we can go somewhere.
Until then, we'll keep going round in circles, with you claiming that we claim we are honorable and me saying that we are not honorable. |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
22
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 14:40:00 -
[37] - Quote
Oh and if you want to find an established corporation that's one of our enemies, I can provide you with a list.
However I would suggest that you come after us yourself, it'll be more amusing for us. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 14:49:00 -
[38] - Quote
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Oh and if you want to find an established corporation that's one of our enemies, I can provide you with a list.
However I would suggest that you come after us yourself, it'll be more amusing for us.
Keep your list trust is something you won't get from me. In regards to your suggestion I expected as much from cowardly sons of harlots. Good day sir, until we meet again.
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Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
22
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:57:00 -
[39] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Oh and if you want to find an established corporation that's one of our enemies, I can provide you with a list.
However I would suggest that you come after us yourself, it'll be more amusing for us. Keep your list trust is something you won't get from me. In regards to your suggestion I expected as much from cowardly sons of harlots. Good day sir, until we meet again.
If you really want to fight us, come to Hevrice. We're always up for a good fight.
We haven't actually met yet judging by your losses. See you in Hevrice!
P.S. I was being serious about the list & about improving your Drake fitting. Joining our Public Channel would also give you free intel & our Vent server details before you plan your next move. |
Kishin Hattori
The Tuskers
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 14:58:00 -
[40] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Keep your list trust is something you won't get from me. In regards to your suggestion I expected as much from cowardly sons of harlots. Good day sir, until we meet again.
We live in Hevrice by the way. |
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Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 15:06:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote: We already had one douche in this thread there isn't room for another. Again with the childish name calling, go back to Wow and let the men settle this matter.
Your argument is invalid:
Jin Shugo wrote: [ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags
Your mad bro
I look forward to your apology, transfer 58 million ISK to me and ill consider the matter closed |
Jaxley
The Tuskers
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 15:09:00 -
[42] - Quote
Don't forget he called our mothers harlots, friend.
EDIT: especially considering Kishin completely made up those chatlogs. Onoes I gave it away sorry Kishin D: |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 15:49:00 -
[43] - Quote
Keltaris Cesaille wrote:Jin Shugo wrote: We already had one douche in this thread there isn't room for another. Again with the childish name calling, go back to Wow and let the men settle this matter.
Your argument is invalid: Jin Shugo wrote: [ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags
Your mad bro I look forward to your apology, transfer 58 million ISK to me and ill consider the matter closed
Who are you and what are you doing in my thread? Leave. Here is twenty isk to pay a Tuskers mother to warm your bed. |
Gun Dam
The Tuskers
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 16:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
made my day |
Gordon Gartrell
ManWolfs
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 16:25:00 -
[45] - Quote
ive fought multiple agreed 1v1s with various tuskers over the years...all have been honored...in fact they have gone out of their way to keep their friends (including non-tuskers) from jumping in
you make the agreement before the fight starts and you are very specific to your terms or there is no agreement. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
413
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 16:39:00 -
[46] - Quote
ITT OP flies the quintessential bait ship, wonders why people chose to gank and run in OMS rather than hang around for the Arazu to decloak. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
65
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 16:46:00 -
[47] - Quote
Anyone accepting a 1 v 1 is an idiot. Doesn't matter what corp you are in, this isn't some historical duel, pistols at dawn honour crap mmm?
All accepting a 1 v 1 does is confirm where you will be to his buddies. Why do it? Might as well light a cyno and have done with it
FWIW I've never found the Tuskers anything other than completely straightforward - they're going to try to kill you if they can, regardless (largely) of who you are and that's nice and easy to understand isn't it? |
Amber Thetawaves
Mong's Marauders
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 16:53:00 -
[48] - Quote
>fair 1 vs 1 in old man star
stopped reading right there |
Aznwithbeard
The Tuskers
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
ITT: an idiot, and people attempting to reason with him. Please stop now.
Alternatively come to hevrice and we can kill you again. |
Teh Frog
University of Caille Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:10:00 -
[50] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS.
Not mad you lost, makes forum post.
Calls Tuskers weak, dies to a Tusker.
Wat? |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS. Not mad you lost, makes forum post. Calls Tuskers weak, dies to a Tusker. Wat?
Clearly a very sensitive bunch of pilots considering how many chimed in on this thread. We done yet this is getting old. |
Amber Thetawaves
Mong's Marauders
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:
Clearly a very sensitive bunch of pilots considering how many chimed in on this thread. We done yet this is getting old.
please let me direct you to my above post. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:30:00 -
[53] - Quote
reported. |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Loud On The Forums Silent In Game
20
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:reported. Oh he mad. |
Korg Tronix
Heretic Army
14
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:40:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:reported. Oh he mad.
Super Mad.
Also calling someone a coward for killing your ship is funny |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:41:00 -
[56] - Quote
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:reported. Oh he mad.
reported..... just kidding. I don't really get all the name calling and rage. Its quite childish and kinda funny. Yes I lost a ship, yes I talked smack in the forums, big deal who cares. Move on people get a life. Its just a game, bet you never heard that before. :)
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Jak'rat
Lion Investments
7
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 17:59:00 -
[57] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star .
I know an oxymoron when I see one... "Full turret rack all grouped, gyro's, rigs - that's not a ship, it's a flying shotgun..." |
Teh Frog
University of Caille Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 18:39:00 -
[58] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:reported. Oh he mad. reported..... just kidding. I don't really get all the name calling and rage. Its quite childish and kinda funny. Yes I lost a ship, yes I talked smack in the forums, big deal who cares. Move on people get a life. Its just a game, bet you never heard that before. :)
You're already dug in too deep. No going back now. |
Amber Thetawaves
Mong's Marauders
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 18:39:00 -
[59] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:reported. Oh he mad. reported..... just kidding. I don't really get all the name calling and rage. Its quite childish and kinda funny. Yes I lost a ship, yes I talked smack in the forums, big deal who cares. Move on people get a life. Its just a game, bet you never heard that before. :)
ohhh man
somad.
please cry some more, its very amusing |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Rodents of Unusual Size
26
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 18:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:reported.
God man you are so full of **** you've even made me want to troll you and shoot your ass.
Tuskers are one of the most honourable pirates groups I know of. Why? they do what they say.... not ascribe to whatever assumed level of honour you think they should. Honour is not about the end result, it's about how you deal with it. |
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Kaanchana
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 18:55:00 -
[61] - Quote
One of the best trolls in a long time. Made me read all the posts..
entertaining, 7/10 for keeping me interested, would read again. |
lljkDeathscythe
Carebear Poachers plc
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.24 21:51:00 -
[62] - Quote
Whilst OP is clearly delusional and an idiot, this does not change the fact Tuskers are a bunch of noobs. |
Aznwithbeard
The Tuskers
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 01:27:00 -
[63] - Quote
lljkDeathscythe wrote:Whilst OP is clearly delusional and an idiot, this does not change the fact Tuskers are a bunch of noobs.
Good sir, we never said we werent. However , I must say, most of the older tusker pilots have far better KBs then you.
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Tirelion
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 02:00:00 -
[64] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Keltaris Cesaille wrote:Jin Shugo wrote: We already had one douche in this thread there isn't room for another. Again with the childish name calling, go back to Wow and let the men settle this matter.
Your argument is invalid: Jin Shugo wrote: [ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags
Your mad bro I look forward to your apology, transfer 58 million ISK to me and ill consider the matter closed Who are you and what are you doing in my thread? Leave. Here is twenty isk to pay a Tuskers mother to warm your bed. You just love to be hated don't you? I love seeing the glittering tears of fail pilots as they rage helplessly against what they can't control. You lost, you died, and your an idiot. As for the Tuskers you won't find a more respectable group of pirates (we certainly aren't ;) The Tuskers are our friends and rivals, you'd do well to respect them.
As to other's who think that 1v1's aren't honored you're fools too. Even we in Shadow Cartel have a strict policy against violating a true 1v1. People think that if they happen to find themselves in a situation where they are fighting another ship, and the fight was not pre-arranged, that this means they are now in a "1v1" this is not the case. It is normal for only one ship to warp into a place and get tackle BEFORE the rest of the gang arrives. Very rarely will they all simply drop on your head at once. At some point you should actually learn something about lowsec combat tactics. A true "1v1" will be pre-arranged, and those will never be violated, at least not by a Tusker, or a Shadow Cartel member.
Also, grow a nut-sack and accept that you were wrong. |
Hector Biggz
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 03:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
Tirelion wrote:Even we in Shadow Cartel have a strict policy against violating a true 1v1. People think that if they happen to find themselves in a situation where they are fighting another ship, and the fight was not pre-arranged, that this means they are now in a "1v1" this is not the case. It is normal for only one ship to warp into a place and get tackle BEFORE the rest of the gang arrives. Very rarely will they all simply drop on your head at once. At some point you should actually learn something about lowsec combat tactics. A true "1v1" will be pre-arranged, and those will never be violated, at least not by a Tusker, or a Shadow Cartel member..
@OP - Terrible post, bad drake fit and i'm guessing you're a terrible pilot. Stay in high sec and save your tears. |
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 04:24:00 -
[66] - Quote
This thread makes me wet. |
Smodab Ongalot
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 04:30:00 -
[67] - Quote
Oh, where to start?
Tuskers honor 1v1s, just like most of the decent low-sec/pirate corps. In fact, I struggle to think of a decent corp that routinely dishonors them.
The link is good, something mutilates it when you click out of the eve forum.
The link is: http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63
But gets turned into: http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63
Asking for a 1v1 after a fight has started is impractical, you can't expect to do this and have people agree to it. You really need to ask before the fight has started, as others have said.
Lastly....
Othran wrote: Anyone accepting a 1 v 1 is an idiot. Doesn't matter what corp you are in, this isn't some historical duel, pistols at dawn honour crap mmm?
All accepting a 1 v 1 does is confirm where you will be to his buddies. Why do it? Might as well light a cyno and have done with it P
FWIW I've never found the Tuskers anything other than completely straightforward - they're going to try to kill you if they can, regardless (largely) of who you are and that's nice and easy to understand isn't it?
Do you play eve while you are hiding in the closet with your safety light? Don't be so paranoid... There are lots of people out there that will honor 1v1s, many are through corp enforced rules with punishments for those that dishonor them. As someone that solo's frequently, I run into this attitude constantly. I can't hardly imagine what it must be like to be so frightened all the time.
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Vandiilo
Port Royal Buccaneers
4
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 05:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. "The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps? Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf. Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
Is this guy for real? |
Lord Zeel
Port Royal Buccaneers
6
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Posted - 2011.11.25 05:43:00 -
[69] - Quote
Hello. Tuskers honored a 1v1 with me the other day. I jumped into their system looking for some action and warped to the sun, mwd'd and sat 100km out. Waited a couple minutes, there were 4 of them in local, a Malediction appeared on my overview and started burning towards me as I burned towards him, all of a sudden a Pilgrim uncloaks as well so I warp out. I made a sad face in local and requested a 1v1, they agreed so I went back and we had our fight.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11638228 |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
38
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 08:02:00 -
[70] - Quote
Aznwithbeard wrote:lljkDeathscythe wrote:Whilst OP is clearly delusional and an idiot, this does not change the fact Tuskers are a bunch of noobs. Good sir, we never said we werent. However , I must say, most of the older tusker pilots have far better KBs then you.
o7
Azn, I was wondering where you got off to. |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
43
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Posted - 2011.11.25 11:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
The troll, it's strong in this one:
Nice job, OP, I actually read the whole thread, and eagerly await its' continuation!
9/10 (-1 for capitalisation, and because it's honour--remember, we speak English here)
Oh, and, apropos nothing else whatsoever...locator agent running. |
Anxiir
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 12:22:00 -
[72] - Quote
Good job with the tear extraction. I haven't LoLed this hard in a while. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
38
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 13:20:00 -
[73] - Quote
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:The troll, it's strong in this one: Nice job, OP, I actually read the whole thread, and eagerly await its' continuation! 9/10 (-1 for capitalisation, and because it's hon our--remember, we speak English here ) Oh, and, apropos nothing else whatsoever...locator agent running.
Honor is fine, last I checked us yanks outnumber.....well the rest of the English speaking world by about 3-1. Not sure why you Queen's English speakers insist on adding letters to otherwise simple words. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
183
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Posted - 2011.11.25 13:48:00 -
[74] - Quote
I love fighting the Tuskers and more often than not it is a 1v1 even though I do not bother requesting one formally. A couple of times it has ended up with another Tusker landing on grid towards the end of the fight but I don't get angry and make unreasonable accusations about them on the forum, they are simply doing what they do.
By the way, thats 2 out of possibly 50 engagements I have had with them and I got out both times anyway. They are very nice people to talk to in game. I can't think of a single time they have acted unprofessionally or smack talked (I'm sure they would reciprocate if you are going to be a peurile baby yourself).
I've even been invited to join them taking a target down, ended up with them switching to me afterwards in a friendly fire spot of confusion and been pod ransomed, pod ransom honoured and then the whole lot refunded after the confusion! So I would say they are pretty honourable and decent people.
I even got a free Retribution to save me going back to HQ for a new ship after an arranged 1v1 with Sulei.
I really don't understand why you would be so hostile about losing a Drake by engaging someone in low sec without arranging the fight in advance. If you want revenge I am sure they will be happy to agree a rematch under fair terms. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ Get Out, Nasty Face ~ (a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â) |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 14:28:00 -
[75] - Quote
Good morning Toads and Worms.
LetGÇÖs recap shall we? Only one of two possible things is happening here. LetGÇÖs look at them together.
A. Every single post in this thread that has expressed shock, disbelief, or laughs has played into my cunning ploy to do nothing more than provoke The Tuskers and all the little worms that support them.
or
B. I am sitting at home in my motherGÇÖs basement cry cry crying away at the loss of my internet spaceship and in game funny money.
I will let you decide.
Goodbye!
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
183
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Posted - 2011.11.25 14:34:00 -
[76] - Quote
I sometimes wonder why I bother with the gal-net community. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ Get Out, Nasty Face ~ (a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â) |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
2
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Posted - 2011.11.25 14:38:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Good morning Toads and Worms.
LetGÇÖs recap shall we? Only one of two possible things is happening here. LetGÇÖs look at them together.
A. Every single post in this thread that has expressed shock, disbelief, or laughs has played into my cunning ploy to do nothing more than provoke The Tuskers and all the little worms that support them.
or
B. I am sitting at home in my motherGÇÖs basement cry cry crying away at the loss of my internet spaceship and in game funny money.
I will let you decide.
Goodbye!
Relevant |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
226
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Posted - 2011.11.25 14:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
Thread cleaned from inappropriate posts. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Xedam Praxis
Repo.
3
|
Posted - 2011.11.25 15:05:00 -
[79] - Quote
IGÇÖve had the fortune of fighting against and with (in those shaky, yet mutually beneficial arrangements that sometimes evolve in low-sec) the Tuskers and will also confirm the quality of their organization. Xedam Praxis Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.25 15:05:00 -
[80] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Thread cleaned from inappropriate posts.
It appears that a few of us have been "cleaned" by one of the forum police. A full page of replies are gone. I guess we are done here. Too bad my post that just got flushed down the internet's toilet was a good one.
My apologies to CCP if I crossed a line. :)
Later.
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
185
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Posted - 2011.11.25 15:30:00 -
[81] - Quote
Don't discuss moderation. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ Get Out, Nasty Face ~ (a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â) |
Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers
10
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Posted - 2011.11.25 16:00:00 -
[82] - Quote
Quote:But if you're more interested in the code by which we live and die, well then...
GÇóI am a pirate, daring and cunning. Though I may rat or mine or run missions, they take second place in my life. GÇóI am a lifelong learner. I seek the respect of other space-farers through mastery of the martial skills, including use of the onboard scanner, probing complexes and spaceships, ship modules, and known procedures of CONCORD, faction police, and sentries. Knowing that the fight may be over before it has begun, I seek to engage others only on my terms. GÇóI earn my own ISK and buy my own ships and supplies. I may share from my abundance with less fortunate Tuskers, and I may accept their largesse in turn. I split loot equitably with my gangmates, being especially gracious with those who have suffered material loss. GÇóI appreciate the opportunity of flying with my Tusker comrades, thereby multiplying target opportunities. Tuskers learn from one another and Tuskers learn by doing. However, I do not need a gang to practice my nefarious profession, and hunt solo with ease. GÇóI respect all my opponents, win, lose, or draw. I always volunteer a "gf." I am free with my praise and advice with a receptive foe. I invite those with promise to consider becoming a Tusker. GÇóI relish opportunities to win a ransom, as prudence allows. If I am given the ransom I demand, or if I accept a ransom offer, I will honor that ransom. I will clearly communicate the terms and time limit of any ransom, and honor those terms before re-engaging a target. If I accidentally kill a target after receiving a ransom, or if I receive a ransom after having destroyed my target, I will return the ransom immediately. GÇóI don't talk smack. My actions speak for themselves. GÇóI post my kills and losses promptly, whenever another player shows up on my killmail. GÇóI don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it. GÇóIf I verbally invite someone into my fleet, or if I accept someone's verbal request to join my fleet, they are safe in fleet with me. I will let them know to watch out later, though, unless the Tusker diplomats grant them official standings. GÇóAlthough it may be convenient for me to let my target falsely assume he's safe from me, he may hold me to anything I actually do say; I keep my word.
There's been a lot of talk about the Tusker Code, but I did not see anyone actually post it, so here it is.
Please note that there is nothing in there about having to accept 1v1s, only having to honor them if we do accept. We make no claim to be nice people (we are pirates, after all), just people who actually mean what they say.
The OP might also consider that in busy systems we need to hit hard and get out before backup arrives. The fact that the OP was agressing other pilots with no backup nearby is not something we could have known beforehand, or indeed, even know now with any certainty.
Beyond that, I'm not sure I can add anything that other Tuskers have not already said.
Fly dangerous. http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/ |
General Mr
Seriously Educated eXamplary Event Servicemen
0
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Posted - 2011.11.25 17:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
I, too, have been unjustly handled by the Tuskers. When I joined they said we would be friends forever, but in the end all they did was kill my Tempest and be mean to me. |
ValentinaDLM
Ubi Concordia Ibi Victoria
408
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Posted - 2011.11.25 19:11:00 -
[84] - Quote
Unless rules are mutually agreed upon before a fight, no one has the right to challenge ones E-Honour.
I can only recall one fight I ever had with tuskers, an Enyo and hawk versus a firetail and comet, though we lost (no range, and I totally burnt my guns out not paying attention, plus they were pretty good pilots), they gave a GF in local we gave a GF in local, I can say even losing my ship, I was a satisfied customer.
I think the OP has a case of unjustifed buyers remorse, I hear it happens alot around this time of year. |
Miura Bull
Black Rebel Rifter Club
8
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Posted - 2011.11.25 19:19:00 -
[85] - Quote
Posting in epic thread of rage and tears or an elaborate troll of gargantuan proportions. Not sure if.
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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
202
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Posted - 2011.11.25 19:26:00 -
[86] - Quote
Stupidity.
You win.
And the Tuskers, from all the corps out there, are the only corp i would ever join, because these guys are legit.
That said ... i don't join corps. lol |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.11.25 19:44:00 -
[87] - Quote
TL/DR Tuskers win at eve but lose at fourmwars by responding seriously to troll with four pages plus of thread defense about their internet honor |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.25 20:15:00 -
[88] - Quote
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:TL/DR Tuskers win at eve but lose at fourmwars by responding seriously to troll with four pages plus of thread defense about their internet honor
finally someone gets it. :)
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
115
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Posted - 2011.11.25 20:33:00 -
[89] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Vol Arm'OOO wrote:TL/DR Tuskers win at eve but lose at fourmwars by responding seriously to troll with four pages plus of thread defense about their internet honor finally someone gets it. :)
"guise! guise! i was just TROLLING lmao rofl m8m8m8m8m8 o7o7o7o7"
Get out.
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Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
44
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:33:00 -
[90] - Quote
Mfume Apocal wrote:You tried to get a 1v1 arranged after the fight had started? Seriously?
^^ This.
And asking for a 1v1 in Old Man Star? LOL! just LOL! |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
I think its time for this to end.
I never for one second thought the Tuskers would give me a 1vs1 after the fight started. I came on this forum to provoke them and their supporters nothing more, which clearly worked.
Anyone in this thread who for one minute thought anything I wrote about the Tuskers or the fight in OMS was truthful or honest had better give their head a shake.
Cheers.
JS.
ps - I have been in eve since 2006 on and off, you guys really believed everything I wrote..lol come on. |
Teh Frog
University of Caille Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:59:00 -
[92] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I think its time for this to end.
I never for one second thought the Tuskers would give me a 1vs1 after the fight started. I came on this forum to provoke them and their supporters nothing more, which clearly worked.
Anyone in this thread who for one minute thought anything I wrote about the Tuskers or the fight in OMS was truthful or honest had better give their head a shake.
Cheers.
JS.
ps - I have been in eve since 2006 on and off, you guys really believed everything I wrote..lol come on.
You're a terrible liar. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.25 22:01:00 -
[93] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:I think its time for this to end.
I never for one second thought the Tuskers would give me a 1vs1 after the fight started. I came on this forum to provoke them and their supporters nothing more, which clearly worked.
Anyone in this thread who for one minute thought anything I wrote about the Tuskers or the fight in OMS was truthful or honest had better give their head a shake.
Cheers.
JS.
ps - I have been in eve since 2006 on and off, you guys really believed everything I wrote..lol come on. You're a terrible liar.
meh. |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
2
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Posted - 2011.11.26 02:37:00 -
[94] - Quote
Relevant |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
190
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Posted - 2011.11.26 03:14:00 -
[95] - Quote
hey gies i mak thrad to show i fale at poost as muchj as at gam (a¦á_a¦â) ~ Get Out, Nasty Face ~ (a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â)(a¦á_a¦â) |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
105
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Posted - 2011.11.26 03:33:00 -
[96] - Quote
Tuskers regularly kill a couple of folks I don't get on particularly well with so I approve of their actions. |
CrossedSwords
Spiritus Draconis
1
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Posted - 2011.11.26 11:27:00 -
[97] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Kishin Hattori wrote:chatlogs n stuff
Chat logs can be faked everyone knows that. First off i have not seen this code that your corp speaks of and a code implies honor which you clearly have violated. Secondly, i demand payment based on your dishonorable actions of calling in help. Third, no payment is an acknowledgement of cowardice. Lastly - Looking for well established corp that is an enemy of The Tuskers. Contact me in game or reply below. These scum need to receive a good old fashion spanking. Their mothers where most likely absent harlots and abandoned them resulting in their inability to act with honor.
ok now this is becomming a very fun thread
edit: i should defenetly read the entire thread first |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
2
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Posted - 2011.11.26 16:57:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ive fought multiple 1v1s with Tuskers, and they have always honored them. I dont even have any problems with other tuskers sitting and watching the fight in combat ships.
If they havent agreed to a 1v1, odds are you arent going to get it. And only an idiot would ask for a 1v1 after a fight begins. |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
172
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Posted - 2011.11.27 03:27:00 -
[99] - Quote
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
NO HONROUR |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
23
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Posted - 2011.11.27 19:11:00 -
[100] - Quote
Totally got us, nice one!
I wasn't joking about getting some help so you can get better at PvP btw, join our Public Channel if interested. |
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Lost touch
Fla5hy Asylum The Defenders of Pen Island
0
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Posted - 2011.11.28 02:58:00 -
[101] - Quote
Tuskers are honourable... 1v1'd them a lot over the years and NEVER been any funny business.
I find the OP to be a carebear who does not understand low sec game mechanics therefore rants about nothing so he gets his own way.
Tuskers 10/10
OP i want to kill you. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2011.11.28 05:18:00 -
[102] - Quote
Human, Honor, Risk, Video Game - none of these words go together when it involves EVE so I don't know how you could fail to relize it sooner. |
Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
78
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Posted - 2011.11.28 07:09:00 -
[103] - Quote
Posting in a thread about e-honoure.
My tear cup runneth over. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
2
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Posted - 2011.11.28 13:55:00 -
[104] - Quote
posting in h..onor thingie ..... omg ... it is EVE ... in war honor means nothing ... |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
74
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Posted - 2011.11.28 14:04:00 -
[105] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS.
Every dealing i've had with Tuskers has painted them as polite and excellent pilots. Tuskers do NOT 1vs1, it's even in their Code/terms. A cursury glance at their corporation blogs/code/pilot profile info lets people know they don't 1vs1. It seems you made some bad decisions and payed for it. Think of it as a learning experience. |
equincu ocha
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2011.11.28 19:54:00 -
[106] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I think its time for this to end.
I never for one second thought the Tuskers would give me a 1vs1 after the fight started. I came on this forum to provoke them and their supporters nothing more, which clearly worked.
Anyone in this thread who for one minute thought anything I wrote about the Tuskers or the fight in OMS was truthful or honest had better give their head a shake.
Cheers.
JS.
ps - I have been in eve since 2006 on and off, you guys really believed everything I wrote..lol come on.
I'm impressed that you thought up this troll seconds after you realized that your ship was going to explode, very impressed indeed.
Do you think that if I practice trolling more it would sharped my mental reflexes a bit. Baby seal walked into a club |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots Morsus Mihi
10
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:27:00 -
[107] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS.
It isnt a one v one if you didnt ask for a one v one BEFORE the fight commenced. There really isnt anything else relevant in your post. Honor has nothing to do with it. Having fought against Tusker dudes from time to time in the past I suspect that they would have honored a one v one if you had asked in advance. Or they would have told you to go to hell. But to complain about getting ganked after combat is initiated? Thats just ********. |
Fon Win
Fangs Of The Federation
22
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Posted - 2011.11.30 05:09:00 -
[108] - Quote
Kishin Hattori wrote:As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight... Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage. Here is the full OMS chat log... n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill. You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner. Take care.
Wait wait wait... he wanted a 1v1 in OMS after the fight started... and called you fags?
wow. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
46
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Posted - 2011.11.30 07:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
Fon Win wrote:
Wait wait wait... he wanted a 1v1 in OMS after the fight started... and called you fags?
wow.
Apparently he remembers the kindler gentler OMS........wait what....... |
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
5
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:21:00 -
[110] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS. You say they had no "Honor". Honor about what???
Did they in fact agree to a 1v1?? if not then where is the lack of "honor"?Otherwise to me it seems you are nothing more than bitter about your own foolish decision to engage without adequate information about how many hostiles were around, and, if you knew, making no plans to cope with the situation beyond placing some expectation on them that they neither asked for or agreed to.
your post is in fact mind boggling. By your logic all players caught alone by an enemy patrol should be attacked by a single appointed pilot, otherwise they are "dishonorable", as anyone with half a brain would request a "1v1" after the fight had started and to not grant it would be "Dishonorable".OP Post is dumb and pointless.
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Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
5
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:28:00 -
[111] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. "The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps? Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf. Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged. Link worked for me.
Someone is losing credibility by the moment.......
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Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
5
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:41:00 -
[112] - Quote
Kishin Hattori wrote:As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight... Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage. Here is the full OMS chat log... n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill. You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner. Take care. i have to say, Mr. Hattori, I'm Jealous. To have had such a tasty morsel, smothered in winsauce, and then a nice refreshing bath of tears afterwards I'm sure is something pirates everywhere aspire to. Thank you for showing the uninitiated how it's done.
Mr. Shugo, let this be a lesson to you, and don't whine like such a woman afterwards. It's undignified and your entire thread absolutely has to be as gratifying to them as it was to waste you in the first place, if not more so.Have some self respect.
You may as well put your goolies on a flat rock and pound them with a Hammer , for all the good it does asking for a 1v1after YOU initiated combat.
T1 missiles in a PvP fight?? Really?? |
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
6
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:59:00 -
[113] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Kishin Hattori wrote:As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight... Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage. Here is the full OMS chat log... n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill. You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner. Take care. Chat logs can be faked everyone knows that. First off i have not seen this code that your corp speaks of and a code implies honor which you clearly have violated. Secondly, i demand payment based on your dishonorable actions of calling in help. Third, no payment is an acknowledgement of cowardice. Lastly - Looking for well established corp that is an enemy of The Tuskers. Contact me in game or reply below. These scum need to receive a good old fashion spanking. Their mothers where most likely absent harlots and abandoned them resulting in their inability to act with honor.
You imply the man lies, and in fact faked the chatlogs. Did he? Or are you simply making yet another feeble attempt to disparage those who are clearly your betters?say the man is a liar, and post the logs to prove it, or apologize to the man. After all that would be the "honorable" thing to do......
(disclaimer) I am no friend of the tuskers and have killed them and been killed by them in top belt in OMS and other varied and sundry locations....
It's just, you are so irksome...
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Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
6
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:18:00 -
[114] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I think its time for this to end.
I never for one second thought the Tuskers would give me a 1vs1 after the fight started. I came on this forum to provoke them and their supporters nothing more, which clearly worked.
Anyone in this thread who for one minute thought anything I wrote about the Tuskers or the fight in OMS was truthful or honest had better give their head a shake.
Cheers.
JS.
ps - I have been in eve since 2006 on and off, you guys really believed everything I wrote..lol come on.
65 kills in 5 1/2 years. You are a terrible pilot, nothing more. You quit every time you die, and that's all there is to it. You DID ask for a 1v1, AFTER the fight started, and then called them, collectively, homosexuals (as evidenced by the chatlogs).As I said earlier, you have no credibility. Sad when a group of pirates has more credibility than you.
Or rather, is it your contention that you were merely trolling, and we all should have known you were a liar to begin with?( don't worry, we know you for a liar now). Again, speaks volumes as to the type of fellow you are.The more you speak the deeper the hole gets...
Seems to me a fellow made a post about you being a troll, and you saw an easy out and tried to take it (willingly sacrificing any vestigial remnants of any dignity or credibility you might have had left in anyones eyes) , same way you tried to take the easy out in your ill considered failfight.
I think we are seeing a pattern of behaviour here.... |
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
6
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:39:00 -
[115] - Quote
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Totally got us, nice one!
I wasn't joking about getting some help so you can get better at PvP btw, join our Public Channel if interested.
Now THIS is how to troll......
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Derkata
1
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:11:00 -
[116] - Quote
Mfume Apocal wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:Vol Arm'OOO wrote:TL/DR Tuskers win at eve but lose at fourmwars by responding seriously to troll with four pages plus of thread defense about their internet honor finally someone gets it. :) "guise! guise! i was just TROLLING lmao rofl m8m8m8m8m8 o7o7o7o7" Get out.
Without a doubt the best thread. |
Kishin Hattori
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:43:00 -
[117] - Quote
I just can't believe this thread has come close to hitting 100 posts... It's hilarious! |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:01:00 -
[118] - Quote
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:Kishin Hattori wrote:As the pilot who was first to engage, FC of the fleet and the one who he directed the accusation at I thought I'd take the time to sift through the crap ton of logs to just set this straight... Here is the first shot fired (from his end, I might add) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:42 ] (notify) Orbiting Jin Shugo's Drake (18500m) [ 2011.11.24 04:08:54 ] (combat) Scourge Heavy Missile belonging to Jin Shugo hits you, doing 790.0 damage. [ 2011.11.24 04:08:56 ] (combat) Your group of 720mm Howitzer Artillery II hits Jin Shugo (Drake), doing 1159.5 damage. Here is the full OMS chat log... n++[ 2011.11.24 04:02:43 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Old Man Star Local Channel n++[ 2011.11.24 04:09:56 ] Jin Shugo > 1 vs 1 n++[ 2011.11.24 04:10:54 ] Jin Shugo > fags n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:07 ] Kishin Hattori > if you had asked before I'd have probably agreed *shrugs* n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:23 ] Jin Shugo > i was in a 1 vs 1 when you cats showed n++[ 2011.11.24 04:11:38 ] Kishin Hattori > we were none the wiser, I remember you shooting first n++[ 2011.11.24 04:12:00 ] Jin Shugo > dont matter who shot first.. i was in a 1vs1 you dont see me bringing any friends do you? n++[ 2011.11.24 04:19:14 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Heydieles Local Channel So a full minute after combat started and he saw local fill he asked for a 1v1 - I did not respond AT ALL in local, thereby not accepting or agreeing to a 1v1. It ended up being a gank, though I couldn't be sure he didn't have backup himself; I wouldn't also deprive my fleet on a fair kill. You won't be getting your 60 million isk back Jin, I kept my word (aka. nothing) and you suitably died for your short-sighted decision. If you had asked for a 1v1 prior to open firing upon my ship (as I might add, he warped in on me in the belt, logs of me popping rats to clear the belt can be provided if necessary ) then it's possible I may have obliged and you'd have found yourself in a clone bay (yes we caught his pod in BC's) in what you deem a fair manner. Take care. Chat logs can be faked everyone knows that. First off i have not seen this code that your corp speaks of and a code implies honor which you clearly have violated. Secondly, i demand payment based on your dishonorable actions of calling in help. Third, no payment is an acknowledgement of cowardice. Lastly - Looking for well established corp that is an enemy of The Tuskers. Contact me in game or reply below. These scum need to receive a good old fashion spanking. Their mothers where most likely absent harlots and abandoned them resulting in their inability to act with honor. You imply the man lies, and in fact faked the chatlogs. Did he? Or are you simply making yet another feeble attempt to disparage those who are clearly your betters? Say the man is a liar, and post the logs to prove it, or apologize . After all that would be the "honorable" thing to do...... (disclaimer) I am no friend of the tuskers and have killed them and been killed by them in top belt in OMS and other varied and sundry locations.... It's just, you are so irksome...
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:01:00 -
[119] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:Posting in a thread about e-honoure.
My tear cup runneth over.
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:01:00 -
[120] - Quote
General Mr wrote:I, too, have been unjustly handled by the Tuskers. When I joined they said we would be friends forever, but in the end all they did was kill my Tempest and be mean to me.
u r dumb |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:02:00 -
[121] - Quote
Hidden Snake wrote:posting in h..onor thingie ..... omg ... it is EVE ... in war honor means nothing ...
u r dumb. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:02:00 -
[122] - Quote
ValentinaDLM wrote:Unless rules are mutually agreed upon before a fight, no one has the right to challenge ones E-Honour.
I can only recall one fight I ever had with tuskers, an Enyo and hawk versus a firetail and comet, though we lost (no range, and I totally burnt my guns out not paying attention, plus they were pretty good pilots), they gave a GF in local we gave a GF in local, I can say even losing my ship, I was a satisfied customer.
I think the OP has a case of unjustifed buyers remorse, I hear it happens alot around this time of year.
u r dumb. |
Teh Frog
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:48:00 -
[123] - Quote
The mad is strong with this one. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:18:00 -
[124] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:The mad is strong with this one.
How'd you know?!
ps - u r dumb. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:The mad is strong with this one.
did i mention u r dumb? |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
45
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:12:00 -
[126] - Quote
Ohhhhh, I get it now...it was all just an elaborate troll. Oh course! How did we miss that??
Think WoW is that way and can I haz your stuffz before you leav....oh, wait, never mind. |
Teh Frog
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:14:00 -
[127] - Quote
Nothing better than butthurt while eating lunch.
Btw, nice tactic. Spamming, insulting, and endlessly bumping your own thread.
1v1's with CCP never end well. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:22:00 -
[128] - Quote
Smiling Menace wrote:Ohhhhh, I get it now...it was all just an elaborate troll. Oh course! How did we miss that?? Think WoW is that way and can I haz your stuffz before you leav....oh, wait, never mind.
u r dumb. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:22:00 -
[129] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:Nothing better than butthurt while eating lunch.
Btw, nice tactic. Spamming, insulting, and endlessly bumping your own thread.
1v1's with CCP never end well.
u r dumb. |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:17:00 -
[130] - Quote
I'm starting to like this man! All the free attention you're giving us! |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:07:00 -
[131] - Quote
Yahrr wrote:I'm starting to like this man! All the free attention you're giving us!
u r really dumb. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
51
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:41:00 -
[132] - Quote
Teh Frog wrote:The mad is strong with this one.
Indeed he mad....
...stupid mad even. |
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
11
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Posted - 2011.12.01 04:59:00 -
[133] - Quote
Shugo, if they put a toilet in Macys' window you'd climb up on it and take a dump. |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Dead On Arrival Alliance
28
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Posted - 2011.12.01 05:33:00 -
[134] - Quote
I've found the Tuskers to be good honorless PVPers. Jin Shugo i have found to be a douche filled with **** and vinegar - someething no cloaca would care to know. Though, his butthurt is quite satisfying. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu
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Robert Mason
The Tuskers
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 05:52:00 -
[135] - Quote
+1 ...... would read again! |
GatoOFruits
Monaco Ltd
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 06:57:00 -
[136] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Thread cleaned from inappropriate posts.
And what could be "inappropriate" in a thread like this? We are already deep deep in troll territory
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Remmo Prideux II
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 10:25:00 -
[137] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Yahrr wrote:I'm starting to like this man! All the free attention you're giving us! u r really dumb.
Dude :D EVE is not about fair fights. Play World of Warcraft or Bomberman if you want a fair fight.
Please chillax now. You started by telling someone "Shhh adults are talking here" I think you epicely proved to everyone that you are not one of them. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
51
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Posted - 2011.12.01 12:54:00 -
[138] - Quote
GatoOFruits wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Thread cleaned from inappropriate posts. And what could be "inappropriate" in a thread like this? We are already deep deep in troll territory
Me commenting on population numbers was appropriate (and on topic I may add) but saying what's up to a former associate who happens to now be a Tusker is out of bounds.
Meh, I prefer the trolling actually, this is a pretty good one. |
Hazel Starr
Krypteia Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 02:51:00 -
[139] - Quote
Say what you like about Tuskers...I've always found them very capable of running away when it was to their advantage...
And occasionally turning up en-masse as well...which could be good or bad depending on your state of preparedness.
-- Haze
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:08:00 -
[140] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:Yahrr wrote:I'm starting to like this man! All the free attention you're giving us! u r really dumb.
He's obviously not even trying anymore. |
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Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
182
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:14:00 -
[141] - Quote
Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:
I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS.
He's obviously not even trying anymore.
fixed your post |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
2
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:26:00 -
[142] - Quote
Never go into a solo fight expecting your single opponent to be alone.
Be prepared for things to escalate and react accordingly.
Besides 1v4, 1v5 and 1v6 fights are much more fun than just shooting one target... |
orion scimatarii
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:12:00 -
[143] - Quote
Lol op thinks EVE is fair...
I scammed me 3 billion (not in one go but you get the idea)
hijacked a mach from some poor guy i knew back when we were starting out.
ran off with most if not all the corp wallet see phalanx warriorll for further details *trollface*
was bored one day and decided to suicide gank a pod with a destroyer *concord makes things FEEL safer not actually make you safe*
going into lowsec and doing the things you did just makes me laugh...
and its an erective d*ck move to call a 1v1 when you fired and were in the midst of combat, something which i think the rest of the tuskers would obligingly murder your face.
EVE is about freedom of doing as you please when you please, if you please and should you please.
as ye olde heavy from TF2 says: "CRY SOME MOOORE!!" |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
12
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Posted - 2011.12.05 15:26:00 -
[144] - Quote
1v1's must be agreed to before combat by both parties for the 1v1 to be valid.
yelling 1v1 in local after the shooting starts is not a gank shield. |
Chris97b
Wolves and Knights The Irukandji
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:12:00 -
[145] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:u r dumb.
...
Jin Shugo wrote:u r dumb.
...
Jin Shugo wrote:u r dumb.
...
Jin Shugo wrote:u r really dumb.
I literally rofl'd
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:16:00 -
[146] - Quote
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you both ****** up. |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
1
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:53:00 -
[147] - Quote
Tuskers are awesome _____________________________
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DaDudeinDump
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 01:31:00 -
[148] - Quote
Yeah kind of a fail on your part. You got to ask for the 1v1 before you fight for it to be valid,
and what I do with 1v1s to help curb the blobs. Is I fleet up with the person I 1v1. That way he can't have his buddies warp in on us. (I always 1v1 in safes btw.) That way; if he wanted to have his buddies warp in on me. He'd have to look away from the fight for a few seconds and buy me some time to GTFO.
If there's a way around this. Lemme know. |
Rykuss
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.12.08 15:56:00 -
[149] - Quote
Are The Tuskers pirates? You'll be shocked to learn what a local mom discovered! Can I have your vindicator? |
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
5
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:42:00 -
[150] - Quote
This just in!!!
OP is a ****** |
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Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
39
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Posted - 2011.12.08 20:27:00 -
[151] - Quote
OP: I think I'll go to Old Man Star for a fair fight. World: LULZ! OP: Hey, another BC to engage. I'm sure it wants a one on one, so won't even bother asking. No way it's bait. World: LULZ! OP: I'm sure the rest of the people in local will stay out of this. World: LULZ! OP: Oh crap, others have joined the fight against me. If I ask for a one on one now, I'm sure they'll honor it. World: LULZ! OP: ...because they're in what I've heard is a 'leet PVP group... World: LULZ! OP: ...which means they're honorable. World: LULZ! OP: They're not honoring my one on one request! @#%&(%#&(@#!!! World: LULZ! OP: When I die I am so posting this in C&P. World: LULZ! |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
41
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Posted - 2011.12.11 02:25:00 -
[152] - Quote
Good day, Jin Shugo:
The Tusker Code from http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63
"I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it."
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army
211
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Posted - 2011.12.11 23:55:00 -
[153] - Quote
Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Jin Shugo: The Tusker Code from http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63"I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it." Thank you.
thats actually a decent code for a pirate corp.
well done ka jolo Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays http://judelloyd.blog.com/ -á |
takedoom
Tempest Legion Skunk Works.
3
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Posted - 2011.12.12 10:57:00 -
[154] - Quote
Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
JS.
You are fair game to fleets when you don't ask for a 1v1 before a fight starts. You took the bait and now you are crying about it. http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/ |
IceBergSlim
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:25:00 -
[155] - Quote
Jude Lloyd wrote:Mara Abraham wrote:Good day, Jin Shugo: The Tusker Code from http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63"I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it." Thank you. thats actually a decent code for a pirate corp. well done ka jolo
Agreed.
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Dunbar Hulan
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
27
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:43:00 -
[156] - Quote
Anyone looking for a "Fair" fight in Eve has lost already. The objective isn't to have fair 1v1's, but to bring the muscle and dispatch the other guy or guys before his mates show up and not take any losses. In low sec (where I presume this "Chivalry " exists, ) the last thing I'd do is look on local and see 5/6 guys all in the same corp and expect a 1v1.
Having never really hung out in low, does this stuff happen on a regular basis? The offers for 1v1's? If so, then I could easily sit in somewhere like Sendaya and have the boys on the gate in Doril for example. And if I could do that then rest assured that there's probably a bunch of folks doing that already I bet. So I would just suck it up, take the loss and learn from it- Just my two cents. -áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned. |
Cable Udan
The Tuskers
63
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:58:00 -
[157] - Quote
Hah, surprised this thread is still going! http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/ My Pirate Blog |
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Physical Chaos
18
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Posted - 2011.12.14 18:06:00 -
[158] - Quote
Cable Udan wrote:Hah, surprised this thread is still going!
Everyone loves a train wreck. |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 19:45:00 -
[159] - Quote
Dunbar Hulan wrote:Anyone looking for a "Fair" fight in Eve has lost already. The objective isn't to have fair 1v1's, but to bring the muscle and dispatch the other guy or guys before his mates show up and not take any losses. In low sec (where I presume this "Chivalry " exists, ) the last thing I'd do is look on local and see 5/6 guys all in the same corp and expect a 1v1.
Having never really hung out in low, does this stuff happen on a regular basis? The offers for 1v1's? If so, then I could easily sit in somewhere like Sendaya and have the boys on the gate in Doril for example. And if I could do that then rest assured that there's probably a bunch of folks doing that already I bet. So I would just suck it up, take the loss and learn from it- Just my two cents.
There is more to Eve PvP than simply taking someone down before his gang arrives....you can take down his gang when they arrive to back him up \o/
Asking for 1v1s is fairly common, but then again plenty of people come to Hevrice in search of a good fight, mostly in frigates. Also, fostering a reputation of accepting 1v1s (even informally) by deliberately downshipping and telling other (Tuskers) to stay away helps. Most of the time though, another Tusker ends up landing just to see how the fight's going.
Most of those offering them are weekend warriors and don't want to deal with the hassle of Amamake and Heretics camping gates/bringing ECM for a single person etc..
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
462
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Posted - 2011.12.14 21:19:00 -
[160] - Quote
Confirming I am a weekend warrior and go to Hevrice for some fast and reliable frig fun. EU tz Tuskers seem active enough that I can get a quick fix by heading their way. I never actually ask for a 1v1 though... It somewhat implied by the frequency with with I go visit but I never assume I will get one :)
I also chat with them in their public channel but dont believe it grants me any special treatment. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
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Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
12
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Posted - 2011.12.14 21:52:00 -
[161] - Quote
Lady Spank wrote:Confirming I am a weekend warrior and go to Hevrice for some fast and reliable frig fun. EU tz Tuskers seem active enough that I can get a quick fix by heading their way. I never actually ask for a 1v1 though... It somewhat implied by the frequency with with I go visit but I never assume I will get one :)
I also chat with them in their public channel but dont believe it grants me any special treatment.
We only ever chat with you so that you will miss a d-scan cycle or two while we undock our boosting and falcon alts... |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
468
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Posted - 2011.12.14 23:08:00 -
[162] - Quote
LMAO u guize r so bad n i will hav 2 cruch u in2 submersion now becozs of badman way, wotch ur back bads (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Dunbar Hulan
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:30:00 -
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Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Dunbar Hulan wrote:Anyone looking for a "Fair" fight in Eve has lost already. The objective isn't to have fair 1v1's, but to bring the muscle and dispatch the other guy or guys before his mates show up and not take any losses. In low sec (where I presume this "Chivalry " exists, ) the last thing I'd do is look on local and see 5/6 guys all in the same corp and expect a 1v1.
Having never really hung out in low, does this stuff happen on a regular basis? The offers for 1v1's? If so, then I could easily sit in somewhere like Sendaya and have the boys on the gate in Doril for example. And if I could do that then rest assured that there's probably a bunch of folks doing that already I bet. So I would just suck it up, take the loss and learn from it- Just my two cents. There is more to Eve PvP than simply taking someone down before his gang arrives....you can take down his gang when they arrive to back him up \o/ Asking for 1v1s is fairly common, but then again plenty of people come to Hevrice in search of a good fight, mostly in frigates. Also, fostering a reputation of accepting 1v1s (even informally) by deliberately downshipping and telling other (Tuskers) to stay away helps. Most of the time though, another Tusker ends up landing just to see how the fight's going. Most of those offering them are weekend warriors and don't want to deal with the hassle of Amamake and Heretics camping gates/bringing ECM for a single person etc..
I must be too used to null sec, Culture down here in Curse is a wee bit different . Anyway, good luck and all the best o7
-áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned. |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:26:00 -
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im sick of people acting like all heretic army does is blob they are good pvpers ...."and I've been fighting back ever since...." |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:46:00 -
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Dunbar Hulan wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Dunbar Hulan wrote:Anyone looking for a "Fair" fight in Eve has lost already. The objective isn't to have fair 1v1's, but to bring the muscle and dispatch the other guy or guys before his mates show up and not take any losses. In low sec (where I presume this "Chivalry " exists, ) the last thing I'd do is look on local and see 5/6 guys all in the same corp and expect a 1v1.
Having never really hung out in low, does this stuff happen on a regular basis? The offers for 1v1's? If so, then I could easily sit in somewhere like Sendaya and have the boys on the gate in Doril for example. And if I could do that then rest assured that there's probably a bunch of folks doing that already I bet. So I would just suck it up, take the loss and learn from it- Just my two cents. There is more to Eve PvP than simply taking someone down before his gang arrives....you can take down his gang when they arrive to back him up \o/ Asking for 1v1s is fairly common, but then again plenty of people come to Hevrice in search of a good fight, mostly in frigates. Also, fostering a reputation of accepting 1v1s (even informally) by deliberately downshipping and telling other (Tuskers) to stay away helps. Most of the time though, another Tusker ends up landing just to see how the fight's going. Most of those offering them are weekend warriors and don't want to deal with the hassle of Amamake and Heretics camping gates/bringing ECM for a single person etc.. I must be too used to null sec, Culture down here in Curse is a wee bit different . Anyway, good luck and all the best o7
Hm you make a valid point - all of your recent kills appear to feature a Falcon in your gang.
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2011.12.15 08:03:00 -
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One night, after a few too many beers, I thought it would be fun to scout for a low sec roam in a battle cruiser. The results were predictable and a good laugh was had by all. After saying good fight in local I had a friendly, mature, chat with one of the gents in the Tuskers and have had a great deal of respect for them ever since.
To the Op: If the Tuskers had agreed to a 1v1 not only would they have given it to you but they would have engaged anyone who tried to jump into the fight... |
Marius Quizo
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:30:00 -
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I think out of all the fights i have had with the Tuskers...once i got tag teamed.....That being said, I still look forward to fighting against you guys in the future. :D One of these days ill head back over and see if i can stir up some stuff in your home system..... |
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