Who let this guy into Brave Newbies?

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God damn.. your lips i wanna suck on them for hours and hours whilst staring into those teasing eyes...
I hereby declare i'm in spacelove with Zimmy Zeta!!!

It seems incredibly strange to me that the things you guys dont like in a PVP-game is the adrenalin-rush ^^
The other thing i do not get is (from the op), why in the name of god are you in null-sec if your worst nightmare is to loose your ship on a gate? This is EVE, EVE is a pvp game, pvp meens people will shoot at you..

And no, it is not unfair that other people have friends, alts and systems in place to give them intel about there whereabouts etc.

Dude,

Tech 3 + mobile depot.

The only way to prevent this, is to use a T3 cruiser or to not jump though any gate in nullsec at all. So its all fine and well that a T3 can handle this, but there is more then just T3 cruisers in EvE and CCP should give other ships also a chance to be used in solo nullsec as well.

Why, in a game about creativity, are people so uncreative.

So its my fault for not being creative enough to fit 3 stabs, 3 prop upgrades, tripleprop, target spectrum breaker, xlarge booster, 4 neuts, t2 cloack and 5 ecm drones on a retribution?

So its my fault for not being creative enough to fit 3 stabs, 3 prop upgrades, tripleprop, target spectrum breaker, xlarge booster, 4 neuts, t2 cloack and 5 ecm drones on a retribution?

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

No, it's your fault for not knowing how to use a FRIGATE SIZED SHIP (ie the safest size of ship in the game) in null sec. ...

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

Because getting back to a gate is hard.

Bin there. Tryed that. Still get killed.

Covops cloaking enabled. Burned towards open space with MFD on for one clyle, Still getting decloaced by MWD speed frigs or destroyers by proximity, insta locked and warp scrambeld + webbed. Killed before getting even close to the edge of the bubble.

Sometimes you manage to get away but every single time is a very close call and they get very near (3-4 km).

And this is with a frig. A cruiser or BC has close to 0% chance to escape.[/quote[

Sigh.

Click approach gate, click (or hot key) MWD, click (or hotkey) cloak.

As I said, you don't know what you are doing, yet blaming the gate for it.


A good gatecamp with have a dictor jump back to the system you came from and buble that gate too.

Ah, so the game is supposed to provide you 100% safety? Then the problem is you not knowing how to use your ship, it's you being in this game to begin with. Dying is a part of EVE, one a good EVE player learns to live with and shrug off.

No, it's your fault for not knowing how to use a FRIGATE SIZED SHIP (ie the safest size of ship in the game) in null sec. The mach needs that stuff because it's a freaking Battleship lol.

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

No. You twist my words. You may think im a carebare wanting CCP to provide 100% safety. Thats not what I said.
I want to have a fighting chance. If I die I want to die knowing that it was my own falt that killed me. Not a game mechanic that was unavoidable.

Gatecamps are the exact oposite. You have to make a jump blindly without knowing if there is a bubblecamp waiting on the other side or if the gate is clear.
If you make the wrong decicion based on no information to help you make that decicion, then you have a very high chance of getting killed IF there is a gatecamp.

Thats not a fighting chance, that is bringing lamps to the slaughterbank. Or like I said, russian roulette.

If you want to kill me, than hunt me down. Do something for your loot and killmail.. Sitting on a closed door with a shotgun pointed on it is just damm lame.
I would throw a flashbang throguh the door if I could. But I gues the game is not sandbox enough for this.

If you want to do something in a system like ratting or exploration or mining or PI, thats when you should have to face the consequences of PvP. But you should have the option to get into system in the first place without comming suicide by even trying.

What kind of a gate camp are we talking about here, a lone ****** in a sabre? If thats the case then even an epithal can do it.

Please dont patronize me, i may be less experienced than you but im not stupid, i know enough about game mechanics to survive in null.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Yet somehow none of those options fit the bill right. No, the game must HAND you entrance through a gate where you don't have eyes on the other side right?

The problem here is your unrealistic and highly 'entitled' expectations, not some imaginary problem with the existence of gates. Anyone who can't deal with gates should either never leave high sec, or should live in wormhole space.

Maybe op would feel better if someone could rationally explain why is there a need for this kind of choke points.

Fit for travel and carry a mobile depot?

Use an alt to scout?

Use something with a jump drive?

Take a look at your own points. You suggest bridging and jumping or using wormholes. So obiously my "imaginary problem" with gates is big enough so you realy suggest I should use a titan bridge to avoid gates in the first place. You realise I just want to pass from one system to another?

I dont say it is not possible to evade a gatecamp. All the ways you discribed to go are possible. I can even add some more that you forgott.

G- Multibox 255 Accounts so you can jump though with a armada of ships and overwellm the gatecampers
H- 6000+ Accounts so you can have a character in very system of EvE. You never have to use a gate again. Yay.

Those are also possible ways to get through a gatecamp. Completely nuts, but still possible.
So of course I can use a titan to bride a single T1 cruiser from system A to system B if I had a titan or knew someone with a titan. But is this not a little out of proportion for the task at hand?

If you think some dudes with a interdictor should be able to lock down a gate for solo traveling non T3 ships than thats you opinion.

As so often in discussions like this one, you keep explaning what fancy stuff you can pull of to go around the criticized game mechanic and you still fail to explain why changing the said game mechanic would be sutch a bad idea.

Obviously not.