But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Well, for me I see it as a lottery, and I got enough of it. Also - I'm not paying 2 accounts, on principle, that's already hardcore gaming for me, not interested.

Fair enough, it's not for everyone. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to ask for your stuff though.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

It seems that you're less annoyed with gates and more annoyed at the risk associated with jumping through them.

Gates are for wuzzies. Get a jump drive and never take a gate again!

Continuously having to check local, having to get intel about other systems every 5 minutes... yeah, I see where the OP is coming from. It can get frustrating.I just blast through with a travel fit + roll the dice, blind jump best jump, 0 ****s given, because I don't want to annoy my mates on TS with constant requests. I don't do null anyway so getting caught is rare enough not to care.

Except with your cyno alt...

Imagine if they'd removed gates

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Flame on, bittervets

Well, for me I see it as a lottery, and I got enough of it. Also - I'm not paying 2 accounts, on principle, that's already hardcore gaming for me, not interested.

It seems incredibly strange to me that the things you guys dont like in a PVP-game is the adrenalin-rush ^^
The other thing i do not get is (from the op), why in the name of god are you in null-sec if your worst nightmare is to loose your ship on a gate? This is EVE, EVE is a pvp game, pvp meens people will shoot at you..

And no, it is not unfair that other people have friends, alts and systems in place to give them intel about there whereabouts etc.

The issue at hand is that constant dependency on other players in order to accomplish seemingly trivial tasks, such as moving some loot safely, can become a frustrating affair. It's not about losing the ships themselves, but having to call mom every time to look left and right for you when you cross the street. Eve Online is the only MMP where "spawncamping" is not considered bad sportsmanship, in fact it does away with the notion of sportsmanship being a good thing entirely. Fine by me, but I fully understand OP. I agree with you nullsec might not be the best place for him, lowsec can be easily traversed with a travel fit and a set of dice.

Sorry but i have to disagree :p
If you are part of a corp/alliance living in null-sec, you have to view the corp/alliance as..umh..lets say a car. Someone gotta be the tires, someone the engine, someone the mirrors, etc etc... The whole point of corps is not to assemble a wide variety of individuals, but to build a unit.
I am having a hard time imagening they dont have logistic-guys in hes corp that can move hes loot around, or even buy the loot from him.

To me it just seems someone is somewhere they should not be. Because if you have the notion that flying around in null with loot or whatever is suposed to be safe.... then you clearly are in the wrong place :p
Being in null-sec really is suposed to be constant dependency.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Dude,

Tech 3 + mobile depot.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

I'm doing just fine, thanks, and having the time of my life.

For some reason, I expected to hear this, before clicking that Time of your life

Anyhow, relating to the actual thread....Been solo for most of my time on Eve, all over the map, and even with eyes on the other side, I have pretty much refused to ask for intel when I had it.

The in game map is a valueable tool, combine that with a litle common sense, and you can pretty much get anywhere safely.

*snip* for brevity

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Lowsec is more optional / partial in it's dependencies, especially where travel is considered, and has more of a "**** you, I do what I want" kind of attitude that wouldn't fly in large null blocs

That is why I loathe null sec. Warp bubbles are a BS mechanic. Someone locking and warp-scrambling me is understandable. That is ship-to-ship PVP, and my bad for being too slow or inattentive. But warp bubbles? That is AFK EZ-Mode for null-bears. I stick to lowsec.

Now if every ship could, to some extent by way of whatever mechanics, dial in a system to system warp like they do in our favorite science fiction movies, would that NOT be better?


Or conversely....

imagine your favorite sci fi franchise like Star Trek or Star Wars and the ships thereof not having the ability to warp on their own or use "hyperdrive" and had to use the same gate mechanics as we do in this game, bubbles included.


I think the OP becomes a bit more understandable then.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

And gravity wells too. But that does not change my point.
(I played Tie Fighter and later X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter like a fiend back in those days let me tell you)

Think thats more of your views, than a reality. I can name plenty of lowsec systems that are pretty hazardous to anyone jumping through. And not all nullsec life, is large null bloc's.

Here's an idea.....dont warp gate to gate, and use dscan. Bubbles can be your friends.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Maybe op would feel better if someone could rationally explain why is there a need for this kind of choke points.

Here's an idea.....dont warp gate to gate, and use dscan. Bubbles can be your friends.

...but for the pvp side they are virtually essential for forcing a fight

Who let this guy into Brave Newbies?

...

God damn.. your lips i wanna suck on them for hours and hours whilst staring into those teasing eyes...
I hereby declare i'm in spacelove with Zimmy Zeta!!!

It seems incredibly strange to me that the things you guys dont like in a PVP-game is the adrenalin-rush ^^
The other thing i do not get is (from the op), why in the name of god are you in null-sec if your worst nightmare is to loose your ship on a gate? This is EVE, EVE is a pvp game, pvp meens people will shoot at you..

And no, it is not unfair that other people have friends, alts and systems in place to give them intel about there whereabouts etc.

Dude,

Tech 3 + mobile depot.

The only way to prevent this, is to use a T3 cruiser or to not jump though any gate in nullsec at all. So its all fine and well that a T3 can handle this, but there is more then just T3 cruisers in EvE and CCP should give other ships also a chance to be used in solo nullsec as well.

Why, in a game about creativity, are people so uncreative.

So its my fault for not being creative enough to fit 3 stabs, 3 prop upgrades, tripleprop, target spectrum breaker, xlarge booster, 4 neuts, t2 cloack and 5 ecm drones on a retribution?

So its my fault for not being creative enough to fit 3 stabs, 3 prop upgrades, tripleprop, target spectrum breaker, xlarge booster, 4 neuts, t2 cloack and 5 ecm drones on a retribution?

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

No, it's your fault for not knowing how to use a FRIGATE SIZED SHIP (ie the safest size of ship in the game) in null sec. ...

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

Because getting back to a gate is hard.

Bin there. Tryed that. Still get killed.

Covops cloaking enabled. Burned towards open space with MFD on for one clyle, Still getting decloaced by MWD speed frigs or destroyers by proximity, insta locked and warp scrambeld + webbed. Killed before getting even close to the edge of the bubble.

Sometimes you manage to get away but every single time is a very close call and they get very near (3-4 km).

And this is with a frig. A cruiser or BC has close to 0% chance to escape.[/quote[

Sigh.

Click approach gate, click (or hot key) MWD, click (or hotkey) cloak.

As I said, you don't know what you are doing, yet blaming the gate for it.


A good gatecamp with have a dictor jump back to the system you came from and buble that gate too.

Ah, so the game is supposed to provide you 100% safety? Then the problem is you not knowing how to use your ship, it's you being in this game to begin with. Dying is a part of EVE, one a good EVE player learns to live with and shrug off.

No, it's your fault for not knowing how to use a FRIGATE SIZED SHIP (ie the safest size of ship in the game) in null sec. The mach needs that stuff because it's a freaking Battleship lol.

Allow me to post the Retribution travel fit.

No. You twist my words. You may think im a carebare wanting CCP to provide 100% safety. Thats not what I said.
I want to have a fighting chance. If I die I want to die knowing that it was my own falt that killed me. Not a game mechanic that was unavoidable.

Gatecamps are the exact oposite. You have to make a jump blindly without knowing if there is a bubblecamp waiting on the other side or if the gate is clear.
If you make the wrong decicion based on no information to help you make that decicion, then you have a very high chance of getting killed IF there is a gatecamp.

Thats not a fighting chance, that is bringing lamps to the slaughterbank. Or like I said, russian roulette.

If you want to kill me, than hunt me down. Do something for your loot and killmail.. Sitting on a closed door with a shotgun pointed on it is just damm lame.
I would throw a flashbang throguh the door if I could. But I gues the game is not sandbox enough for this.

If you want to do something in a system like ratting or exploration or mining or PI, thats when you should have to face the consequences of PvP. But you should have the option to get into system in the first place without comming suicide by even trying.

What kind of a gate camp are we talking about here, a lone ****** in a sabre? If thats the case then even an epithal can do it.

Please dont patronize me, i may be less experienced than you but im not stupid, i know enough about game mechanics to survive in null.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

Yet somehow none of those options fit the bill right. No, the game must HAND you entrance through a gate where you don't have eyes on the other side right?

The problem here is your unrealistic and highly 'entitled' expectations, not some imaginary problem with the existence of gates. Anyone who can't deal with gates should either never leave high sec, or should live in wormhole space.

Maybe op would feel better if someone could rationally explain why is there a need for this kind of choke points.

Fit for travel and carry a mobile depot?

Use an alt to scout?

Use something with a jump drive?

Take a look at your own points. You suggest bridging and jumping or using wormholes. So obiously my "imaginary problem" with gates is big enough so you realy suggest I should use a titan bridge to avoid gates in the first place. You realise I just want to pass from one system to another?

I dont say it is not possible to evade a gatecamp. All the ways you discribed to go are possible. I can even add some more that you forgott.

G- Multibox 255 Accounts so you can jump though with a armada of ships and overwellm the gatecampers
H- 6000+ Accounts so you can have a character in very system of EvE. You never have to use a gate again. Yay.

Those are also possible ways to get through a gatecamp. Completely nuts, but still possible.
So of course I can use a titan to bride a single T1 cruiser from system A to system B if I had a titan or knew someone with a titan. But is this not a little out of proportion for the task at hand?

If you think some dudes with a interdictor should be able to lock down a gate for solo traveling non T3 ships than thats you opinion.

As so often in discussions like this one, you keep explaning what fancy stuff you can pull of to go around the criticized game mechanic and you still fail to explain why changing the said game mechanic would be sutch a bad idea.

Obviously not.

Im interested what would you do in such situations, in same ships, without backup.

That is my opinion?

Thatis MY opinion????

No!! {kicks dude into pit of death} THIS.IS.EVE ONLINE. {flexes crossfit Abs}

If you can't hack it, it's not the game's fault.

Why would it be such a bad idea? I'll say it again. TENS of THOUSANDS of players have played this game using gates(without 'fancy' stuff) without issue. We are not talking hypothetical here, I actually USE my travel fit Machariel. I'm pushing Pirate Faction Battleships around the map while you fear to jump in using a frigate.

The above should illustrate that the problem here is you (and your lack of video game ability and will), not gates, not dudes with a dictor, not the game, but you. And no, the game should not be changed because people like you can't figure out simple and cheap ways to move ships through a gate without usually dying.

So lets say someone opens up a thread and makes the suggestion to implement a new deployable into the game that can be droped out of the cargo hold and then starts to automatically tractor in wreks and containers. This new deployable could be called the "mobile tractor unit".

And you jump in the thread and explain that the guy who made the suggestion is a idiot and he is to stupid to just throw out a cyno and bridge in a noctis or jump in a Roqual to loot the wreks. Or he could just loot them one by one. No need for change. TENS of THOUSENDS of players have looted wreks before. Why change anything ?

That is exaclty what you are doing here. You give no reason why the game needs to stay like it is and no reason why a change would make the game worse. That was the question. Your answer has nothing todo with the question. Thanks for your time but I am affraid I do not have a foto for you today.

So lets say someone opens up a thread and makes the suggestion to implement a new deployable into the game that can be droped out of the cargo hold and then starts to automatically tractor in wreks and containers. This new deployable could be called the "mobile tractor unit".

And you jump in the thread and explain that the guy who made the suggestion is a idiot and he is to stupid to just throw out a cyno and bridge in a noctis or jump in a Roqual to loot the wreks. Or he could just loot them one by one. No need for change. TENS of THOUSENDS of players have looted wreks before. Why change anything ?

That is exaclty what you are doing here. You give no reason why the game needs to stay like it is and no reason why a change would make the game worse. That was the question. Your answer has nothing todo with the question. Thanks for your time but I am affraid I do not have a foto for you today.

I can even add some more that you forgott.

G- Multibox 255 Accounts so you can jump though with a armada of ships and overwellm the gatecampers

I dont think its the chockepoint itself the OP is complaining about. Its the "blind" chokepoint that you have to jump into without knowing whats on the other side befor its to late kind of chokepoint that he is complainng about.

Edit: I would very mutch like to hear a rational explonation why this specific kind of chokepoint is a good thing :-)

OP: FREE YOUR MIND.

In a yr and a half+ of playing Eve, I can tell you with all certainty that it was the most liberating feeling in the world when I stopped being afraid of dying. Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose/replace, and go about doing your own thing. Enjoy the rush of making or trying to make it through a danger zone, rather than being paralyzed by the fear of it. Accept that you WILL lose ships, sometimes often, sometimes rarely enough that you'd be surprised.

FREE
YOUR
MIND

Allrighty then, I'll make an attempt. You see, the OP is actually thinking that travel in Eve should be entirely unrestricted. That's simply not the case. Entities (corps, alliances) will lay claim to space, whether through SOV or through ownership of the moons and POCO's. These are investments worthy of protection, and as such these groups will attempt to safeguard what they own (and what they desire to won) against neutrals. To them, the OP is an invader with unknown intentions. Choke points allow people to actually claim a piece of space and create the predictable conditions under which other people can farm and carebear.

Ok, i understand that. Bubbling the gate is a way for them to control the traffic and guard the resources. I have no problem with that. My problem is that players are thrown in a blockade often without knowing what awaits them while the campers on the other hand can be lazy and just wait for a ship to appear and get blown up. IMO it disregards the concept of risk and reward. For an unprepared traveler there is no risk, there is no potential loss, death is guarantied and the campers are rewarded for simply showing up and pressing f1. Wouldn't it be better if there was a way to reliably determine the threat? Then it would be up to the pilot to make the decision weather to risk his assets.

Let me make it clear, i have no problem with losing my ship, i wouldn't be playing if i did. My issue is pointlessly dying on a gate because i cant see what is going on on the other side.

As it is often the case in GD, OP comes and demands that the game changes to accommodate his needs, i do not share his views, nor do i want gates to be removed.

Ok, i understand that. Bubbling the gate is a way for them to control the traffic and guard the resources. I have no problem with that. My problem is that players are thrown in a blockade often without knowing what awaits them while the campers on the other hand can be lazy and just wait for a ship to appear and get blown up. IMO it disregards the concept of risk and reward. For an unprepared traveler there is no risk, there is no potential loss, death is guarantied and the campers are rewarded for simply showing up and pressing f1. Wouldn't it be better if there was a way to reliably determine the threat? Then it would be up to the pilot to make the decision weather to risk his assets.

Let me make it clear, i have no problem with losing my ship, i wouldn't be playing if i did. My issue is pointlessly dying on a gate because i cant see what is going on on the other side.

As it is often the case in GD, OP comes and demands that the game changes to accommodate his needs, i do not share his views, nor do i want gates to be removed.

I found the reason for my recent aversion towards this game, the reason I stopped logging in. I still log on to update my queue, but that's about it, I did not feel any desire to undock in the past 4 months. Did not know it at first, now I can see it clearly.

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

The game is also pay to win. Pay for two accounts, use a scout with an interceptor - and you will never be caught on gate ever again.

If you're that risk averse, go to highsec.

Me, when I go to low/null, I just go ahead and jump blindly, if I die oh well.

You are a singular pilot, incapable of escalation. This is the factor you disregard. The risk / reward swings in the defender's advantage because the risk to obtain that space has already been suffered. Through previous conquests, a status quo has been reached; an equilibrium between disruption of PVE activities and the number of people to whom this is of importance. Nullsec allows you to create this environment while lowsec favours less travel restrictions at the cost of constant potential PVE disruptions. There is a way to reliably determine the thread: surrender cheap assets, upon that you may risk nothing valuable untill threats have been properly assesed. Trespassing on the doorstep of the mighty comes with sacrifices. Think of risk / reward at the corporate level, not that of the singular pilot.

It is also a way to motivate social engineering and politicking. Eve would not be Eve if there would not be politics, if one could not worm his way towards an objective instead of grabbing it guns blazing.

It's cheaper to have a second account, consider it free by plexing it with the isk saved by not dieing.

Imagine if EVE was played on land, something I imagined Dust was going to be. A mmorpg played on a giant planet, or multiple planets. It just happens that this land map is entirely mountainous, and players can only move from one little opening in the mountains to another through narrow canyons. (there is no flight let's say, except if using expensive stuff, similar to jumps in space EVE).

AND - there is no way to visually see what's in front of you, until you enter the canyon. There are black walls at their entrances. You can only ask players on the other side (if there are), you can check some statistics, and stuff. And you have to do this tens of times a day, always gambling your destroyable equipment, because some guys always take residence in these canyons. Well, that's how Eve is now, just in space.

Yes - of course, once in, there are ways to escape, still it's always a gamble.

New games are appearing, placed on a land surface, or in space, without this canyon system.

I have played PvP games. EvE is not PvP.

There is very little skill used in EvE. It is either Rock (I have more SP) vs scissors (less SP). Or it is Rock-Rock-Rock-Rock-Rock-Rock-Rock-Rock vs Scissors (hope I don't have to explain that one).

If CCP made this a skill game people would leave in droves. If you and your ten buds couldn't camp gates and had to put the same amount of effort in as your prey, you would most likely leave. If a new player could beat a veteran player because piloting skill>skill points, even more people would leave.

People like saying they play a PvP game. Unfortunately it is far from the truth with EvE.

It seems to me you have a very narrow viewpoint on 'skill'. Even what you consider as rock-rock-rock-rock-rock vs scissors, it requires the following skills

1. social skills to make & motivate your buddies (otherwise you won't get to build your own blob)

2. planning skills to build your fleet comp (sh*t fleet will get pwned by the right gang of much smaller size)

3. intelligence gathering skills to judge the chance of bait+counter blob coming your way even if the supposedly helpless lone target jumps through gate (many blobs get baited/hot dropped by making wrong calls)

4. organisational skills to move and act as a cohesive unit (self-explanatory)

5. basic reading comprehension and listening skills to learn and understand the game mechanic (so many 'impossible' situation for solo players can be avoided all together if you understand how low-null works)

6. skills to evaluate the situation and make best tactical decision given the circumstance you are in (no amount of SP or ISK thrown into a ship will save you if you judge the situation wrong and make a wrong choice)

7. etc, etc, etc

And I've seen people who have all the above, plus the 'twitch' skills (which is what you seem to refer to) fight & win against rock-rock-rock-rock-rock-rock. And it's very common that a very low-sp pilot with the right fit and knowledge of his own weakness and strength can beat a much older pilot with bling fit who doesn't know what he's doing. This happens every day all over New Eden.

Also, engineering a situation where you increase your chance of winning is also a skill that requires understanding of game mechanic, psychological warfare, planning and preparation.

So you are simply wrong if you don't think eve pvp does not involve skills. It actually involves even more skills than most other pvp games out there.

New games are appearing, placed on a land surface, or in space, without this canyon system.

Just give players the ability to fit a drone or probe or something they can fire at gates that pops out on the other side and sends information back, unless it's blown up, which tells you someone is camping it anyway.

Also tells the campers that there is some scared guy on the other side worried about being exploded.

win/win/win

That's called "a scout". This is an MMO, not "1v10 newtonian fluid space flight laser simulator".

I find it's more often called "an alt"...

I find it's more often called "an alt"...

The community is great, the way the game is set up - with everything depending on players is also great. But I like to be able to enjoy a game alone also, and i can't because of gates. I just reached my limit for jumping blindly through gates in null sec, with all my loot. Also I have a combat ship in one station, I scan something in some other system with my Buzzard, then I need to get my ship, and this involves more lottery jumps. I feel caged. I can't just log in and do stuff because there are - gates.
I'm tired of asking every minute - "how is this gate?". This - in the best case, when I have someone to ask, and I get an up to date answer.

It seems that you're less annoyed with gates and more annoyed at the risk associated with jumping through them.

THIS - I could only like it once, so I had to quote it and like my own post with my alt.

I have little experience in sov warfare matters but i find it hard to believe that camping a gate will prevent an entity from invading and laying a claim to that system.

Controlling the planets, moons, sites and the belts is the only way an entity can exercise ownership of a system.

Traveling is not entirely unrestricted but a determined player will enter a system no matter how camped its gates are. Once inside claiming its resources is a different story because the owners will hunt the trespasser, disrupt his activities.

There are ways to bypass the gate choke points, i don't understand why people are still clinging to this obsolete conflict generator.

What would happen if ccp was honest in their advertisement, if they explained how traveling works and how camping a gate is a legitimate tactic. What would be the reaction of players interested in joining this fine community if they were aware of this mechanic.

The scout account must be paid for with money or PLEX(purchased with money). I call it Pay2Win.

The scout account must be paid for with money or PLEX(purchased with money). I call it Pay2Win.