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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind.
Not secure enough in your masculinity? 
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage
I'll go out on a limb here, and say that it will make flying them suicidal.
300m sig, cruiser tank? I'll stick to tier-1s, that can actually tank the kind of stuff thats worth trying to kill in a 40-50m ship long enough to actually kill it. ----------------
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind.
Not secure enough in your masculinity? 
I tried to be funny but wasnt. Common problem amongst geeks. 
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind.
Not secure enough in your masculinity? 
I tried to be funny but wasnt. Common problem amongst geeks. 
I just leave them be. I assume if I make enough posts, the law of averages dictates some will be humorous.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 01/08/2006 20:44:21
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal.
Stick to a more Amarrian Theme.
Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme.
I agree it is a bit too Khanid for T1 ship (As Tux suggested.)
Quite hard to think of a suitable word to continue the 'prophecy' theme, in the Amarrian context that is.
I think 'Vocation' would be a good name for an Amarrian ship-class though.
Cosmo
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Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Betrayal the Amarr one, although it might not be a final name since betrayal is more of a Khanid name ..
khanid-ish is exactly what i thought about it when i read that name for the first time. so yes please go ahead and change it to be more in line with the others.
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.01 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Ithildin
Will the Drake have the Nighthawk's hated missile navigation prediction bonus?
No, and it seems unlikely that Nighthawk keeps his]
I think I'm in lust.
You just decided which command ship I'm going to start training towards once I finish my current skill. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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steveid
Penetrate
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Originally by: Tuxford Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage
I'll go out on a limb here, and say that it will make flying them suicidal.
300m sig, cruiser tank? I'll stick to tier-1s, that can actually tank the kind of stuff thats worth trying to kill in a 40-50m ship long enough to actually kill it.
You say cruiser tank like its a bad thing. What you actually have is a cruiser like tank with a lot better fitting requirements and a hell of a lot more cap. Even with the fitting requirements it has the maller, thorax and caracal still have a fairly respectable tank. I think that altho it is a tradeoff they will certainly not be suicidal ships and i will be flying them.
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:03:00 -
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They have a respectable tank because they have a 100-120m sig.
Try flying them @ 2/3 the speed with a 300m sig and 1/2 the agility, see how you like it.
Can you say slowly-moving duck? =P Either that or glass cannon. ----------------
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
You say cruiser tank like its a bad thing. What you actually have is a cruiser like tank with a lot better fitting requirements and a hell of a lot more cap. Even with the fitting requirements it has the maller, thorax and caracal still have a fairly respectable tank. I think that altho it is a tradeoff they will certainly not be suicidal ships and i will be flying them.
Um...cruiser tanks die horribly to battleships when the cruiser in question has a 300m sig radius. To player battleships, anyway - NPCs are meh. -Wrayeth
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:08:00 -
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NPCs dont really matter though, so who cares about that =p ----------------
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:19:00 -
[72]
How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) ____________________________
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:42:00 -
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increased resits?
Roden Shipyards? MWD cap penalty? |

PeeWee Pee
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Posted - 2006.08.01 21:43:00 -
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good ships dudes. 
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.01 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :)
Judgement? 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.01 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38
Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :)
Judgement? 
Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :)
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.01 22:32:00 -
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Call it cAKe and be done with it, I say. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.02 04:19:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Tuxford
I don't really see a reason for it, but I guess you can say its unfortunate that the command ships were released before the tier 2 battlecruisers as the Eos and Nighthawk seem to be upgrades from the Myrmidon and Drake
Have you considered just making the nighthawk a railboat, and similar swich with Eos. I am a current nighthawk flyer, and annoyed by 2 of its bonuses, but i honestly wouldnt mind if you just made it a better rail boat since it looks like the ferox anyways. You're going to have a lot more caldari railgun users anyhow with the new BS. I have no problem and i dont think most people would either waiting for you to make the tier 2 tech 2 battlecruisers. I'l be having fun with the new tech 1 caldari battlecruiser; cheaper to lose in pvp 
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.08.02 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kldraina on 02/08/2006 04:29:50 To follow the "prophecy" line, it could be named "destiny", or "fate". |

Akasha Kadore
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Posted - 2006.08.02 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38
Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :)
Judgement? 
Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :)
How about Apollyon, which was used by early Christians to describe The Devil, kinda ties in with apocalypse/armageddon/abaddon.
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Eximius Josari
Shadow Reavers
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Posted - 2006.08.02 05:58:00 -
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Name it: Fiscal Responsibility
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Fr3nzi
Caldari Playboy Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.02 08:23:00 -
[82]
Just rename the ship when you buy one :P
I renamed my Ferox to Slug as it seemed more appropriate :P
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Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.02 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true.
May be because they all want to tackle and solo. 
Which is exactly what we do with armour tanking ships. Your point?
I agree - it's annoying people want to shield tank AND tackle AND jam etc. You can shield tank fine on 4-5 slots, if not you are doing it wrong.
Armor tanking is not as powerful as shieldtanking but it allows tackling, jamming etc. on the other hand shield tanking allows more damage (because of the unused low slots) so it's fairly okay balanced although there should be a mod like shield boost amplifier for armor repairers tbh.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

White Ronin
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Posted - 2006.08.02 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Apertotes
Originally by: Tuxford
Well its a drone ship, so far a smaller dominix
oh please, say it will be a real drone ship and wont have the mandatory hybrid bonus tehre are already many ships whose bonuses are hybrids and drones. can we get one whose bonuses are drones and drones?
Would be nice AND original.
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Stephen HB
Mystical Knights
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Posted - 2006.08.02 12:27:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Akasha Kadore
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38
Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :)
Judgement? 
Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :)
How about Apollyon, which was used by early Christians to describe The Devil, kinda ties in with apocalypse/armageddon/abaddon.
Sticking with the prescient theme, how about "Portent"?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.02 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 02/08/2006 12:33:42
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal.
Stick to a more Amarrian Theme.
Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme.
Agreed, it doesn't sound right.
Seer would be a good name, as would something more biblical such as Calvary (the place, not to be confused with cavalry) or Gethsemane.
Salvation and Portent as already proposed would also be good names
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Bhaal
Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.02 12:41:00 -
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Amarr suck, who cares what stupid names they use for their ships... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.02 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal Amarr suck, who cares what stupid names they use for their ships...
Well how about something along the lines of. "I'm about to die" "I suck" "I'm inferior" in latin? Hmmm sounds quite good to me to be honest.
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.02 13:20:00 -
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8 Heavy Pulse II with 5% Rof Bonus and Conflag may be able to put out enough EM damage to overcome the EANM+DC tanks. Will get nerfed faster then you can say "wtf amarr ship killed me???"

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Novarei
Ninth Column
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Posted - 2006.08.02 13:22:00 -
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massive sig is the only thing that detracts from these lovely new ships.
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