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Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:37:00 - [1] So we had the T3 BS blog and info, I want to see the stats on that sexy looking caldari BC :) --------------------
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:38:00 - [2] Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane
Brick0Joe Loot	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:41:00 - [3] where did you find the info for the Teir2 BC's?
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Novarei I'm guessing: Drake = Caldari Myrmidon = Gallente Betrayal = Amarr Hurricane = Minmatar Yeah, that's it. They fit so well I didn't think I needed to point out which was which.
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:43:00 - [5] Edited by: HappyKitten on 01/08/2006 07:43:30 Originally by: Brick0Joe where did you find the info for the Teir2 BC's? Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:43:00 - [6] Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane Which name for which race? I'm guessing: Drake = Caldari Myrmidon = Gallente Betrayal = Amarr Hurricane = Minmatar I've seen some of the stats from the DB, but I want clarification, but mainly I want to fly what looks to be the most sexy caldari ship to date. --------------------
Ithildin Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:45:00 - [7] Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane Yup, but the bonuses are what's really interesting. Will they keep the tier 1 BC's tanking bonuses? Will the Myrmiddon be a mini-Dominix or will it have a Eos-esque drone bay size bonus? Will the Drake have the Nighthawk's hated missile navigation prediction bonus? Will these tier 2 battlecruisers also mean that half of the Command Ships will be redesigned slightly considering that they lend heavily from them by looking at fittings? Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.08.01 07:58:00 - [8] why can't we have a zeus ship ffs but you know what i really hate? when you can't tell people's posts from their sigs
Mirasta Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:03:00 - [9] How do you get the stats up on SISI?
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:03:00 - [10] Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane So which one of those is badly typoed and suppose to be 'Boobie'?
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:32:00 - [11] I think its time I made myself a new sisi eve :) --------------------
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:39:00 - [12] Can't wait to see Minmatar BC stats. Please be a large-Stabber!

Tuxford	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:44:00 - [13] Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane Drake is the Caldari one, Myrmidon is the Gallente one, Betrayal the Amarr one, although it might not be a final name since betrayal is more of a Khanid name and Hurricane is the Minmatar one but you guys probably guessed that. Originally by: Ithildin Will they keep the tier 1 BC's tanking bonuses? Will the Myrmiddon be a mini-Dominix or will it have a Eos-esque drone bay size bonus? Will the Drake have the Nighthawk's hated missile navigation prediction bonus? Will these tier 2 battlecruisers also mean that half of the Command Ships will be redesigned slightly considering that they lend heavily from them by looking at fittings? Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage Well its a drone ship, so far a smaller dominix No, and it seems unlikely that Nighthawk keeps his I don't really see a reason for it, but I guess you can say its unfortunate that the command ships were released before the tier 2 battlecruisers as the Eos and Nighthawk seem to be upgrades from the Myrmidon and Drake _______________

Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: HappyKitten Preliminary stats on sisi are quite impressive. Btw, tier2 BC names are currently: Drake Myrmidon Betrayal Hurricane Drake is the Caldari one, Myrmidon is the Gallente one, Betrayal the Amarr one, although it might not be a final name since betrayal is more of a Khanid name and Hurricane is the Minmatar one but you guys probably guessed that. Originally by: Ithildin Will they keep the tier 1 BC's tanking bonuses? Will the Myrmiddon be a mini-Dominix or will it have a Eos-esque drone bay size bonus? Will the Drake have the Nighthawk's hated missile navigation prediction bonus? Will these tier 2 battlecruisers also mean that half of the Command Ships will be redesigned slightly considering that they lend heavily from them by looking at fittings? Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage Well its a drone ship, so far a smaller dominix No, and it seems unlikely that Nighthawk keeps his I don't really see a reason for it, but I guess you can say its unfortunate that the command ships were released before the tier 2 battlecruisers as the Eos and Nighthawk seem to be upgrades from the Myrmidon and Drake Is the Hurricane going to be yet another boring armor tanker, or is it getting an 8/7/3 layout? Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:13:00 - [15] Well it would be sweet to have tier2 BC's as a tech2 versions too. Offtopic: HappyKitten = HippoKing banned? Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:14:00 - [16] Tehre's quiet a lot in between a armor tanker and 7 med slots...
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Kuolematon Well it would be sweet to have tier2 BC's as a tech2 versions too. Offtopic: HappyKitten = HippoKing banned? Dont think so. Prolly a fan. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Kuolematon Well it would be sweet to have tier2 BC's as a tech2 versions too. Offtopic: HappyKitten = HippoKing banned? Considering the looks of the Gallente tier2 BC, I'd say it would be freaking awesome, if eos was based of that, I'd start flying it tomorrow ( or the day after I get logistics up that is )
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Gariuys Tehre's quiet a lot in between a armor tanker and 7 med slots... Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. I still like the 8/5/5 or even 8/6/4 I suggested. Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:20:00 - [21] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. I don't need to tackle to solo, course killmails dont impress me much Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. Anyone who wants to know why this ship needs 7 medium slots should read the discussion about it that is being done in Ships & Modules. It has nothing to do with solo tackling. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Mamarto Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:43:00 - [23] Will the Amarr one be getting Omen bonuses instead of Maller ones then?
Shadowsword Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 16:49:00 - [24] The last Eve-O list the amarr's bonus as a PROBABLE RoF and Damage bonus. Armageddon-like DPS with medium guns = what a battlecruiser is supposed to be: a cruiser hunter. ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 16:51:00 - [25] Tux replies make me cool.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 16:52:00 - [26] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 16:52:05 Originally by: HappyKitten Tux replies make me cool. Have to remember to put pray in the thread title to summon him, thats all. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
000Hunter000 Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 16:58:00 - [27] Wheeeee NH is gonna lose it's missile navigation prediction bonus... err.. what will it get in return? (prays for some more damage and/or range) Banner will be updated shortly
Rutoo Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:05:00 - [28] Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. hur+ri+cane Audio pronunciation of "Hurricane" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hvr-kn, hr-) n. 1. A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. cy+clone Audio pronunciation of "Cyclone" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skln) n. 1. Meteorology. 1. An atmospheric system characterized by the rapid inward circulation of air masses about a low-pressure center, usually accompanied by stormy, often destructive weather. Cyclones circulate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. 2. A violent tropical storm, especially one originating in the southwestern Pacific Ocean or Indian Ocean. So can you please pleas pick a better name? _________________________________________________________ My First EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Bhaal Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:08:00 - [29] Change the Minmatar name to Tsunami er something then... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Jerick Ludhowe Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:18:00 - [30] Edited by: Jerick Ludhowe on 01/08/2006 17:18:47 A question for you Tux: I noticed that the prelim stats on the Tier 2 Battle Cruisers are all showing 18 total slots each. Now I understand that the prelim stats are most certainly not concrete evidence however I'm curious as to what your opinion is on potentially giving them 2 more slots than the tier 1s. Do you feel that giving these new BCs 18 total slots would make their tier 1 counterparts obsolete? If the answer is yes then I have a follow up questions. How do you feel about displacing current content with new content, this extends to the tier 3 Battle Ships as well. Thank you.
Harisdrop Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:30:00 - [31] Originally by: Eximius Josari Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. I don't need to tackle to solo, course killmails dont impress me much Some ships are ment to be solo. I dont see any class of BC solo. Besides you write songs for Shania T.
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:30:00 - [32] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. Which is exactly what we do with armour tanking ships. Your point? TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Tuxford snip 2 things: 1, No Boobies for Caldari pilots? 2, Will the Caldari BC get 10% velocity and 5% rof like the raven, or 5% kinetic like the caracal? 3, Any chance the Drake will get kestrel-style bonuses?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:32:00 - [34] I like how every thread where Tuxford posts becomes a channel for general questions to him. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Valea Silpha Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:41:00 - [35] Gotta love the cult of Tux tho ... I do lik ethe new new minni bc... even if it blows its teh sex <Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:42:00 - [36] Yeah, its definently the coolest looking of them all. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:43:00 - [37] Originally by: Rutoo Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. ... So can you please pleas pick a better name? How about Typhoon? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Bhaal Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:45:00 - [38] Where do I see pic's of the T2 BC's? ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Guillame Herschel	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:48:00 - [39] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 01/08/2006 17:49:29 Originally by: Rutoo So can you please pleas pick a better name? I agree. In the ship-naming thread I suggested Tumult for the tier 3 BS (Tempest, Typhoon, Tumult) but they named it Maelstrom. So what about Tumult for the BC? The storm names are getting a little stale by now. Tumult could refer to a storm, a riot or any kind of violent disturbance. [syn: commotion, din, ruction, ruckus, rumpus]
Apertotes Nuevos Horizontes	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:50:00 - [40] Originally by: Tuxford Well its a drone ship, so far a smaller dominix oh please, say it will be a real drone ship and wont have the mandatory hybrid bonus tehre are already many ships whose bonuses are hybrids and drones. can we get one whose bonuses are drones and drones? Apertotes, the Guybrush Threepwood of New Eve
Bhaal Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 01/08/2006 17:49:29 Originally by: Rutoo So can you please pleas pick a better name? I agree. In the ship-naming thread I suggested Tumult for the tier 3 BS (Tempest, Typhoon, Tumult) but they named it Maelstrom. So what about Tumult for the BC? The storm names are getting a little stale by now. Tumult could refer to a storm, a riot or any kind of violent disturbance. [syn: commotion, din, ruction, ruckus, rumpus] I'm sorry, but that name sucks ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Valea Silpha Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:52:00 - [42] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 01/08/2006 17:49:29 Originally by: Rutoo So can you please pleas pick a better name? I agree. In the ship-naming thread I suggested Tumult for the tier 3 BS (Tempest, Typhoon, Tumult) but they named it Maelstrom. So what about Tumult for the BC? The storm names are getting a little stale by now. Tumult could refer to a storm, a riot or any kind of violent disturbance. [syn: commotion, din, ruction, ruckus, rumpus] I vote for rumpus ... thats a bad ass name <Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 17:57:00 - [43] Personally I'm hoping that the Hurricane is an armour tanking AC boat. But that may just be me. The shield tanking arty boat role is already taken by the Cyclone, and it does it very well. If the Hurricane is the same, it will make a great ship obsolete, and I don't believe that CCP is in the habit of doing that. Akkarin Linkage Do not press this button
Tsanse Kinske Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:01:00 - [44] Rumpus fo' sho'. I'd immediately start working on BC just for that. "Oh noes! It be a fleet of Rumpuses...err, Rumpusi? Rumpoids? Whatever they're called, let's get outta here!" Plus, there's so much possibility for clever nicknames! * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:19:00 - [45] Originally by: Bhaal Where do I see pic's of the T2 BC's? Asgeir's gallery. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| Visual Building Guide (Both work in game too!)
Bhaal Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:23:00 - [46] Originally by: Kylania Originally by: Bhaal Where do I see pic's of the T2 BC's? Asgeir's gallery. Thank You. I need to BM that page for sure! ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Pesadel0	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. Josari ,then go out with the cyclone ,it is a shield tanker. Jenny ever saw the rupture?The vagabond?Jaguar?The list could go on but hey you are caldari ,you guys live on your on world i guess
Suze'Rain	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:43:00 - [48] Damn. I really wanted the Hurricane to be a name for a small frigate-sized fast type ship, even though I knew it would'nt be... just so that I could grin like a lunatic, and play Alien Sex Fiend's "Hurricane fighter plane" while flying it. yes, I truly am a Sad, Old, Goth... on the other hand, I'm rahter looking forward to more info on all of the tier 2 BCs. :)
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. Josari ,then go out with the cyclone ,it is a shield tanker. I do...but I don't like the silly way the guns sit on it. Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.01 18:48:00 - [50] I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Evangeline d'Arcy Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 19:31:00 - [51] For the Minnie ship, they could combine the weather/Norse aspect by naming it Fimbulvetr or Fimbulvintr ("Fimbulwinter"), a succession of three exceedingly harsh winters that precede Ragnarok. :D _________________________
Necrologic Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.08.01 19:40:00 - [52] Quote: No, and it seems unlikely that Nighthawk keeps his leg hump ^_^
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:04:00 - [53] Originally by: Rutoo Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. hur+ri+cane Audio pronunciation of "Hurricane" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hvr-kn, hr-) n. 1. A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. cy+clone Audio pronunciation of "Cyclone" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skln) n. 1. Meteorology. 1. An atmospheric system characterized by the rapid inward circulation of air masses about a low-pressure center, usually accompanied by stormy, often destructive weather. Cyclones circulate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. 2. A violent tropical storm, especially one originating in the southwestern Pacific Ocean or Indian Ocean. So can you please pleas pick a better name? Cyclone: Heavy storm over water. Hurricane: Same storm, but when it reaches land. subtle difference, but there is one.
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:06:00 - [54] Just call the BS tornado (3 Ts, makes you cool) and the BC maelstrom.
CrayC Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:07:00 - [55] Originally by: Reiisha Cyclone: Heavy storm over water. Hurricane: Same storm, but when it reaches land. subtle difference, but there is one. Same thing with the BS. Tempest - Typhoon - Maelstrom. Variations of the same theme, just like all the other T1 ships...
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:10:00 - [56] Originally by: Reiisha Cyclone: Heavy storm over water. Hurricane: Same storm, but when it reaches land. subtle difference, but there is one. Actually, cyclones are any rotation around a low pressure area. This includes tropical cyclones such as hurricanes/typhoons down to tornados. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Mtthias Clemi Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Rutoo Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. hur+ri+cane Audio pronunciation of "Hurricane" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hvr-kn, hr-) n. 1. A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. cy+clone Audio pronunciation of "Cyclone" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skln) n. 1. Meteorology. 1. An atmospheric system characterized by the rapid inward circulation of air masses about a low-pressure center, usually accompanied by stormy, often destructive weather. Cyclones circulate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. 2. A violent tropical storm, especially one originating in the southwestern Pacific Ocean or Indian Ocean. So can you please pleas pick a better name? Cyclone: Heavy storm over water. Hurricane: Same storm, but when it reaches land. subtle difference, but there is one. Happens quite a bit in EVE.. Armageddon/Apocalypse Null/Void
Heraklitus Nomidzon 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:16:00 - [58] ROFL, what a petty thing to complain about. FFS who CARES what the name means?
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:18:00 - [59] Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon ROFL, what a petty thing to complain about. FFS who CARES what the name means? Accurate though it would be, if the geddon had been called "Inflamed *****", it would be the most unpopular ship in eve.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:27:00 - [60] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 20:29:35 Umm. Never mind. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:33:00 - [61] Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind. Not secure enough in your masculinity?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:38:00 - [62] Originally by: Tuxford Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage I'll go out on a limb here, and say that it will make flying them suicidal. 300m sig, cruiser tank? I'll stick to tier-1s, that can actually tank the kind of stuff thats worth trying to kill in a 40-50m ship long enough to actually kill it. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:40:00 - [63] Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind. Not secure enough in your masculinity? I tried to be funny but wasnt. Common problem amongst geeks. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 - [64] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Jim McGregor Umm. Never mind. Not secure enough in your masculinity? I tried to be funny but wasnt. Common problem amongst geeks. I just leave them be. I assume if I make enough posts, the law of averages dictates some will be humorous.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 - [65] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 01/08/2006 20:44:21 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. I agree it is a bit too Khanid for T1 ship (As Tux suggested.) Quite hard to think of a suitable word to continue the 'prophecy' theme, in the Amarrian context that is. I think 'Vocation' would be a good name for an Amarrian ship-class though. Cosmo Jericho Fraction
Udyr Vulpayne Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:41:00 - [66] Originally by: Tuxford Betrayal the Amarr one, although it might not be a final name since betrayal is more of a Khanid name .. khanid-ish is exactly what i thought about it when i read that name for the first time. so yes please go ahead and change it to be more in line with the others.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.01 20:59:00 - [67] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Ithildin Will the Drake have the Nighthawk's hated missile navigation prediction bonus? No, and it seems unlikely that Nighthawk keeps his ] I think I'm in lust. You just decided which command ship I'm going to start training towards once I finish my current skill. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
steveid Penetrate	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:00:00 - [68] Originally by: keepiru Originally by: Tuxford Probably not, although that is a bit dangerous. With such a High signature radius and no tanking bonuses at all it becomes extremely vulnerable to battleships. On the other hand it should still have a bit more tanking ability than cruisers while dishing out a bit more damage I'll go out on a limb here, and say that it will make flying them suicidal. 300m sig, cruiser tank? I'll stick to tier-1s, that can actually tank the kind of stuff thats worth trying to kill in a 40-50m ship long enough to actually kill it. You say cruiser tank like its a bad thing. What you actually have is a cruiser like tank with a lot better fitting requirements and a hell of a lot more cap. Even with the fitting requirements it has the maller, thorax and caracal still have a fairly respectable tank. I think that altho it is a tradeoff they will certainly not be suicidal ships and i will be flying them.
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:03:00 - [69] They have a respectable tank because they have a 100-120m sig. Try flying them @ 2/3 the speed with a 300m sig and 1/2 the agility, see how you like it. Can you say slowly-moving duck? =P Either that or glass cannon. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:05:00 - [70] Originally by: steveid You say cruiser tank like its a bad thing. What you actually have is a cruiser like tank with a lot better fitting requirements and a hell of a lot more cap. Even with the fitting requirements it has the maller, thorax and caracal still have a fairly respectable tank. I think that altho it is a tradeoff they will certainly not be suicidal ships and i will be flying them. Um...cruiser tanks die horribly to battleships when the cruiser in question has a 300m sig radius. To player battleships, anyway - NPCs are meh. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:08:00 - [71] NPCs dont really matter though, so who cares about that =p ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:19:00 - [72] How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) ____________________________
Pattern Clarc Dark Destiny Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:42:00 - [73] increased resits? Roden Shipyards? MWD cap penalty?
PeeWee Pee	Posted - 2006.08.01 21:43:00 - [74] good ships dudes.
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 22:27:00 - [75] Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) Judgement?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 22:31:00 - [76] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38 Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) Judgement? Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.08.01 22:32:00 - [77] Call it cAKe and be done with it, I say. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Double TaP The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.02 04:19:00 - [78] Originally by: Tuxford I don't really see a reason for it, but I guess you can say its unfortunate that the command ships were released before the tier 2 battlecruisers as the Eos and Nighthawk seem to be upgrades from the Myrmidon and Drake Have you considered just making the nighthawk a railboat, and similar swich with Eos. I am a current nighthawk flyer, and annoyed by 2 of its bonuses, but i honestly wouldnt mind if you just made it a better rail boat since it looks like the ferox anyways. You're going to have a lot more caldari railgun users anyhow with the new BS. I have no problem and i dont think most people would either waiting for you to make the tier 2 tech 2 battlecruisers. I'l be having fun with the new tech 1 caldari battlecruiser; cheaper to lose in pvp
Kldraina	Posted - 2006.08.02 04:29:00 - [79] Edited by: Kldraina on 02/08/2006 04:29:50 To follow the "prophecy" line, it could be named "destiny", or "fate".
Akasha Kadore	Posted - 2006.08.02 05:40:00 - [80] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38 Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) Judgement? Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :) How about Apollyon, which was used by early Christians to describe The Devil, kinda ties in with apocalypse/armageddon/abaddon.
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.02 05:58:00 - [81] Name it: Fiscal Responsibility Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Fr3nzi Caldari Playboy Enterprises	Posted - 2006.08.02 08:23:00 - [82] Just rename the ship when you buy one :P I renamed my Ferox to Slug as it seemed more appropriate :P
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.02 08:48:00 - [83] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Eximius Josari Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. May be because they all want to tackle and solo. Which is exactly what we do with armour tanking ships. Your point? I agree - it's annoying people want to shield tank AND tackle AND jam etc. You can shield tank fine on 4-5 slots, if not you are doing it wrong. Armor tanking is not as powerful as shieldtanking but it allows tackling, jamming etc. on the other hand shield tanking allows more damage (because of the unused low slots) so it's fairly okay balanced although there should be a mod like shield boost amplifier for armor repairers tbh. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
White Ronin	Posted - 2006.08.02 10:10:00 - [84] Originally by: Apertotes Originally by: Tuxford Well its a drone ship, so far a smaller dominix oh please, say it will be a real drone ship and wont have the mandatory hybrid bonus tehre are already many ships whose bonuses are hybrids and drones. can we get one whose bonuses are drones and drones? Would be nice AND original.
Stephen HB Mystical Knights	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:27:00 - [85] Originally by: Akasha Kadore Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 01/08/2006 22:31:38 Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Imode How about calling the amarr one Salvation :) Judgement? Soon someone will come up with "Freedom" as well... very clichT. :) How about Apollyon, which was used by early Christians to describe The Devil, kinda ties in with apocalypse/armageddon/abaddon. Sticking with the prescient theme, how about "Portent"? ---------- Signature core stabiliser II activated. This sig is immune to mod tampering! Rawr! EVE Tracking Guide
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:33:00 - [86] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 02/08/2006 12:33:42 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. Agreed, it doesn't sound right. Seer would be a good name, as would something more biblical such as Calvary (the place, not to be confused with cavalry) or Gethsemane. Salvation and Portent as already proposed would also be good names Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:41:00 - [87] Amarr suck, who cares what stupid names they use for their ships... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:49:00 - [88] Originally by: Bhaal Amarr suck, who cares what stupid names they use for their ships... Well how about something along the lines of. "I'm about to die" "I suck" "I'm inferior" in latin? Hmmm sounds quite good to me to be honest.
Perry Amarr The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.02 13:20:00 - [89] 8 Heavy Pulse II with 5% Rof Bonus and Conflag may be able to put out enough EM damage to overcome the EANM+DC tanks. Will get nerfed faster then you can say "wtf amarr ship killed me???"
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.08.02 13:22:00 - [90] massive sig is the only thing that detracts from these lovely new ships. --------------------
Dupac Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.08.02 13:26:00 - [91] Originally by: Gariuys Originally by: Bhaal Amarr suck, who cares what stupid names they use for their ships... Well how about something along the lines of. "I'm about to die" "I suck" "I'm inferior" in latin? Hmmm sounds quite good to me to be honest. We suck = nos combibo I'm about to die = Ego sum super morior I'm inferior = Ego sum improbus I like the Improbus as a name, "inferior" just about sums it up :(
Nox Solaris	Posted - 2006.08.02 13:44:00 - [92] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. How about: 'Fate' or 'Harbinger'
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.02 13:48:00 - [93] Well, certainly for the Caldari one ships with shield resists generally are railboats, so I can sort of understand. Although the real danger in creating a BC which doesn't really do the tanking thing, is that you're doing cruiser grade firepower, whilst being a BS sized target. IMO it'd have to be notably better on DPS than a caracal to make that a worthy trade off. Something like the raven bonuses of RoF and velocity would be fairly cool, as then going for a high missile damage output would be a viable option. Of course, I'd also be very happy with shield resists + RoF. Bit more damage than a caracal, especially if it's multi damage type (couple more launcher slots perhaps?), and with a 'big fat target' painted on it, but with a tank to balance that out.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:06:00 - [94] Originally by: Nox Solaris Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. How about: 'Fate' or 'Harbinger' Harbinger 4TW! ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Kyozoku Loot	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:13:00 - [95] Rename drake albatross.
Nicocat Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:16:00 - [96] I always imagined BCs as the same thing as destroyers, just bigger. Both have more firepower (high slots) than their counterparts (frigs/cruisers) Both have relatively the same tank (resists and shield HP offset by being bigger than usual) Both are slow as **** compared to their counterparts A BC, in my mind, is a cruiser killer, like a destroyer is a frigate killer. Regardless, I love my Cyclone, and I will love my Hurricane. ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:18:00 - [97] Originally by: Nicocat Regardless, I love my Cyclone, and I will love my Hurricane. I hate the Cyclone, but will probably like the Hurricane. Armor tank ftw. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:26:00 - [98] I remember when they first introduced BD's i thought they would be much like BC's IRL, almost as much firepower as a BS but with the shield/armor of a cruiser. Obviously this wouldnt work in eve, but I think the T2 are closer to this than T1, more damage, lets just hope its a LOT more damage and less tank. And nerf the sig radius :P --------------------
Nicocat Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:27:00 - [99] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Nicocat Regardless, I love my Cyclone, and I will love my Hurricane. I hate the Cyclone, but will probably like the Hurricane. Armor tank ftw. As a traitor of the Caldari people, my shield tanking skills > my armor tanking skills. Cyclone ftw. ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Cycerin Strikebeam Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:28:00 - [100] Myrmidon = mini domi? Holy crap. I think i'm in heaven. -----------------------------------------------
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:30:00 - [101] Originally by: Cycerin Strikebeam Myrmidon = mini domi? Holy crap. I think i'm in heaven. Tux keeps on boosting gallente, thats for sure... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Nicocat Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 14:32:00 - [102] Originally by: Cycerin Strikebeam Myrmidon = mini domi? Holy crap. I think i'm in heaven. Myrmidon = Miny dom (r) Secret, poorly spelled messages! ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Mathias Orsen Gold-dust	Posted - 2006.08.27 22:43:00 - [103] Originally by: Rutoo Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. hur+ri+cane Audio pronunciation of "Hurricane" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hvr-kn, hr-) n. 1. A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. cy+clone Audio pronunciation of "Cyclone" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skln) n. 1. Meteorology. 1. An atmospheric system characterized by the rapid inward circulation of air masses about a low-pressure center, usually accompanied by stormy, often destructive weather. Cyclones circulate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. 2. A violent tropical storm, especially one originating in the southwestern Pacific Ocean or Indian Ocean. So can you please pleas pick a better name? Not as bad as gallente ships Astarte (from Greek Αστάρτη (Astßrtē)) is the name of a major goddess as known from Northwestern Semitic regions, cognate in name, origin and functions with the goddess Ishtar in Mesopotamian texts. Ishtar is the Assyrian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate northwest Semitic goddess Astarte. Anunit, Astarte and Atarsamain are alternative names for Ishtar. Now the thing here is that these two ships are not even close to the same... Not even made by the same company... Since the Ishtar is a creodron ship, the least that could have been done was make the Astarte the creodron ship instead of the Eos. æAshtart was accepted by the Greeks under the name of Aphrodite. Eos ("dawn") was, in Greek mythology, the Titan goddess of the dawn, who rose from her home at the edge of Oceanus, the Ocean that surrounds the world, to herald her brother Helios, the sun. ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get"
swamp zyro	Posted - 2006.08.27 23:28:00 - [104] Jeez with the name discussion. who cares, call the Amarr one "Uptight" the Caldari one "Profit" the Gallente one "Stolen" and the Minmatar one "Duct Tape" can we move on now please? I'm concerned about the role this ship will play. Will it be the same with the other BC, only with different approaches (weapon type f.e) or will it be a different concept altogether? Personally, I'd like to see a glass cannon concept ship, as long as it's a really goddamn big cannon, and the glass is plexiglass XD
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.27 23:31:00 - [105] Originally by: Perry 8 Heavy Pulse II with 5% Rof Bonus and Conflag may be able to put out enough EM damage to overcome the EANM+DC tanks. Will get nerfed faster then you can say "wtf amarr ship killed me???" I think you know as well as I do that that is a stupid idea for a t1 ship, and are just posting this to troll because you feel a great injustice that you are best at killing shields rather than armor. Tell anyone caldari (the most flown race in the game) that EM damage sucks, and you should have ridiculously high DPS to compensate and watch them go "uh.... 0% resist "
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.28 01:59:00 - [106] Originally by: Tuxford Originally by: Ithildin Will these tier 2 battlecruisers also mean that half of the Command Ships will be redesigned slightly considering that they lend heavily from them by looking at fittings? I don't really see a reason for it, but I guess you can say its unfortunate that the command ships were released before the tier 2 battlecruisers as the Eos and Nighthawk seem to be upgrades from the Myrmidon and Drake The Bustard used to have the Badger Mk II hull, and then one day after a patch, completely unannounced, it had the Badger Mk III hull [which, by the way, I'm STILL waiting to see released, damnit!]. Clearly a purely graphical update like that is so minor that it's not even worthy of mention. Hence, I don't see any reason NOT to replace the Absolution, Nighthawk, Eos, and Slepneir hulls with the Betrayal, Drake, Myrmidon, and Hurricane hulls. Originally by: Eximius Josari Originally by: Gariuys Tehre's quiet a lot in between a armor tanker and 7 med slots... Everyone is so convinced any shield tanker with less than 7 slots sucks, it must be true. I still like the 8/5/5 or even 8/6/4 I suggested. The Raven has been shield tanking just fine for three years with only six medslots. The Ferox itself has only 5 medslots, and the Tier 1 battlecruisers are supposed to be the tankers. For a Tier 2 Minmatar battlecruiser, 5 medslots should be quite enough for a shield tank. Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I dont like the name Betrayal. Stick to a more Amarrian Theme. Perhaps stick to the 'prophecy' theme. It would work great for a Khanid ship, but this is a T1 Amarrian ship, so yeah, it should be changed. What do you think of "Vision"? Originally by: HappyKitten Just call the BS tornado (3 Ts, makes you cool) and the BC maelstrom. Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon ROFL, what a petty thing to complain about. FFS who CARES what the name means? Accurate though it would be, if the geddon had been called "Inflamed ***", it would be the most unpopular ship in eve. Oh I'd fly it. Hell yes I'd fly it. --------------------- Originally by:** Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Ecnav Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.28 03:08:00 - [107] Originally by: Rutoo Ummm Why do the 2 Battecruisers name mean the same thing? Both Cyclone and Hurricane Mean the same thing. Infact they are the same thing. It's just about location. hur+ri+cane Audio pronunciation of "Hurricane" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hvr-kn, hr-) n. 1. A severe tropical cyclone originating in the equatorial regions of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean Sea or eastern regions of the Pacific Ocean, traveling north, northwest, or northeast from its point of origin, and usually involving heavy rains. cy+clone Audio pronunciation of "Cyclone" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skln) n. 1. Meteorology. 1. An atmospheric system characterized by the rapid inward circulation of air masses about a low-pressure center, usually accompanied by stormy, often destructive weather. Cyclones circulate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. 2. A violent tropical storm, especially one originating in the southwestern Pacific Ocean or Indian Ocean. So can you please pleas pick a better name? Ishtar and Astarte mean the same exact thing, too /me strokes copy of The Da Vinci Code __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ I don't have a sig

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