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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.02 23:47:00 -
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Hey, I was already ahead of you at acknoledging the fact Tuxford isn't all that great.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 08:13:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Stamm
Artillery does not equal sniper. You don't need tracking mods or sensor boosters to use it. In addition, you can put these mods on your low slots, less effective, but they use less cap and CPU. That's really all I have to add.
You are right behind Dixon for idiot of the year award.
My thought exactly..
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Arngorf
but now I have to train shiled tanking skills? geesh okay...
You're aware you should already have this? At LEAST?!
Level 4:
Shield management
Shield operation
Tactical shield manipulation
Shield upgrade
I mean, wow. It will take you 4 days and a half with your attributes to get Shield operation 5 for a XL shield booster II, then train shield compensation to 4 (rank 2 - really short).
You moan about something you should already have or you're clueless about that the minimum skills are for minmatar ships and general of EVE.
Seriously, you have no reason to moan.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lucre
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Evidently nothing we propose or say on this forum gets listened to. The original design specifications - that is to say, the Maelstrom is a f*cking big pile of absolute utter ****, outclassed by all of the other Tier 3 BSes even *with* the Hyperion having one dodgy bonus.
Look on the bright side. You could be flying Amarr and/or Khanid and have discussions of the problems of your current ships being apparently ignored, and not just those of your new ones. 
What's that? You have problems with your ships? I didn't know that.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 03/08/2006 09:02:05
Originally by: Arngorf
WHY!?!
only reason I would want to shiled tank is because of the new tier 3 bs..
I've NEVER shieldtanked a tempest since I need the mid slots for web, scram, mwd. wow 2 slots left.. thats useful..
Hmm, Maybe because most of our ships got more shield than armor? Maybe because we do have shield tankers? Maybe because 5% of a Large ammount of shield is still a normal thing to get even if you don't dedicate your tanking on that layer of your ship's Hitpoints.
Hey, My caldari pilot still has hull upgrade 5, Geez i don't armor tank! 
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Arngorf
Edited by: Arngorf on 03/08/2006 09:07:25
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 03/08/2006 09:02:05
Originally by: Arngorf
WHY!?!
only reason I would want to shiled tank is because of the new tier 3 bs..
I've NEVER shieldtanked a tempest since I need the mid slots for web, scram, mwd. wow 2 slots left.. thats useful..
Hmm, Maybe because most of our ships got more shield than armor? Maybe because we do have shield tankers? Maybe because 5% of a Large ammount of shield is still a normal thing to get even if you don't dedicate your tanking on that layer of your ship's Hitpoints.
Hey, My caldari pilot still has hull upgrade 5, Geez i don't armor tank!
The only thing I pointed out was that there was too many skills to train compared to the other races.. new players like I was, have a damn hard time starting..
Why dont u go tell some new players that they need to train hull upgrades and energy management to lvl 5 no matter what race they are going to play because else they are screwed?
edit: typo
After 2 years, i thought you might have the minimum skills for shield tanking and armor tanking, that's all i said.
So don't moan because you can't see that.
I never mentioned hull upgrade 5 as a minimum, it's level 4, then if you want, level 5 is along the way and is needed if you want to armor tank effectivly with decent modules at your disposal.
Now be quiet unless you learn to read..
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Ishan Shade
Jup IÆm pretty sure I know what race Tux his main isà.
Tux is Amarr. 
Odd, First time he mentioned it, it was caldari...
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Ishan Shade
Jup IÆm pretty sure I know what race Tux his main isà.
Tux is Amarr.
That would explain alot.
Yes, It explains why he hasn't replied to a 51 pages amarr topic containing several hundred people screaming their mind out for a bit of balance.
Yes, obviously he's amarr..
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: KilROCK
Yes, It explains why he hasn't replied to a 51 pages amarr topic containing several hundred people screaming their mind out for a bit of balance.
Yes, obviously he's amarr..
I was mostly being ironic, considering the sad state of the Maelstrom. Im sure Tux is trying to balance the game no matter what race he plays. Its not a easy task, but it wouldnt kill him to take a look at all the whining and see if people actually do have some fair points.
Too bad right now we have to deal with several thousands of whiners since Tuxford is away for a week or more on vacation..
Now he's going to have alot of fun reading all this junk when he comes back..
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Give me:
8/6/5-6
25% ROF/Damage
50% Optimal
And let me do what the hell I want with the tank. Problem solved.
Hey, keep that shield boost bonus so blind man can moan on TS that it's either overpowered like crap and brag he's boosting for over 1.9k.
Hell, Last thing i want to hear is that another of his battleship are truely pathetic, that he won't ever get out of his sleipnir.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I think 8/5/7 is better. Plates, damage mods, hardeners in the lows, tracking computers and sensor boosters in the mediums.
Bonuses: 25% armor resists, 25% damage
Yea, Agreed. If it's going to be an artilery platform, might aswell give it lows and screw the mids.
I wouldn't exactly go for armor resist, i'd rather have something that could be useful for both Arty/AC.
This way you can snipe as good as a tempest, and use that big unused powergrid when you have autocannons for mwd/cap injector/dual reps and such.
Sounds good to me, doesn't exactly renders the tempest useless at both roles, or does it... Wait, it does.. haha tempest down, baby, down!
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Eximius Josari
5% Falloff and 5% Damage
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I'll do it for you.
What do you fly? An armageddon? Get away from my ship you stinkin unaffiliated piece of garbage.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
A/C's with an Optimal Bonus? I'd be happy with that.
I've never seen a use for it, on either the AC typhoon with it, or the AC muninn with it..
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Eximius Josari
Are you saying falloff is not good for an AC boat?
What does the geddon (which I dont fly anymore, despite the constant temptation) have to do with anything?
Its not an AC boat!
It may not be, but artillery is dull, so I'll be damn well trying my hardest to use it as one. Just for the craic really.
Then again, given thant I've been grinding Gallante BS skills....I'll probably just get in the Hyperion.
It has something to do with the tempest and typhoon or mostly any ship in the minmatar selection can't fit artilery and a tank, with 1400mm II, or the insane greed of damage over tank and never finding a balance.
AC, always want damage but never the tank, you never can find a balance between both for most situations.
Sadly this problem is not limited to battleships, cruisers/frig are limited to absolutly no tank at all 
Greedy for damage, never enough for tanking.
shield tanker now? Greedy for tanking, got all the damage you'll need.. Greedy for tackling and tanking at once..
Hell, You could always fit a 1200mm II rack and a armor tank on a Arty tempest, is it good? not really, does it do decent damage? Could be better. Does it have range, the same tank as your crappy AC setup with injector dual rep, yes almost. You just need to drop the heavy nos that aren't exactly useful for 2.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.03 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Eximius Josari
Is it anything like droning on endlessly about why Maelstrom doesn't need this and that through assumptions?
Not that I am the one who is typing 3000 characters to change assumptions to facts. Look at the forums and you can see who whine the most.
1. Minmatar
2. Amarr
3. Gallente/Caldari
Doubt I am wrong though.
this isn't a contest about who whines more. Go require more attention elsewhere 
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