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Boonaki
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:07:00 -
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What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:16:00 -
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Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
bad condidering the number of CTDs
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No WCS
meh, not hard
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No Instas
camps all over
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No local
fun in delve
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No insurance
frig fights... yay :/
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No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
um...no. feel free to throw out years of playing because of an aforementioned CTD? that'll go well
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No high end agents in high sec space
fine with me
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Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
it would be a nice way to kill eve.
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:17:00 -
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the rules you listed would be eve on fun mode. i wish those were implemented, it is a bit easy atm..
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
Sounds a bit like Siege Perilous :)
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:21:00 -
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Darn, who woke me up from this paradise. Grrrrrr ... 
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:23:00 -
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You forgot "Can only fly minmatar ships" 
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Boonaki
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Gaines
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Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
bad condidering the number of CTDs
Change probe time from 75 seconds (cov ops 5/astrometrics 5) to 2-3 minutes. Enough time to log back in, if you CTD. Network loss on your side is your fault.
I'm not saying these should be changed, Eve needs balance between the carebear and the pvpers. This would just be fun for those that enjoy dificulty.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
Hayane
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Posted - 2006.08.03 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Me---> /quit Eve 
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
You forgot "Can only fly minmatar ships"
beat me to it
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Hllaxiu
You forgot "Can only fly minmatar ships"
beat me to it
Me too. :(
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Eximius Josari
Shadow Reavers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
Yes
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No WCS
Yes
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No Instas
God yes
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No local
Yes
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No insurance
Yes
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No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
Only been podded once in all my 2+ years of pvping...so why not.
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No high end agents in high sec space
Yes
Sounds basically how I play now...although I do keep my clone updated.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
Keep upgradeable clones but make them cost 3 to 4 times as much.
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Boonaki
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: HostageTaker
Originally by: Boonaki
What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
Keep upgradeable clones but make them cost 3 to 4 times as much.
Yeah that's prob a better idea.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
Sounds fine to me.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Torrence Osti
A.W.M
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:23:00 -
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I hope not. If this was ever implemented it better damn well be optional, not too many people find frustration fun.
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Uncle Bruno
Goatsecs
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:24:00 -
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How about we put Cruise Missles back on frigs too 
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Holi
Minmatar
Simplexion Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Network loss on your side is your fault.
 Please, don't start your own ISP, ok?  
On topic: WCS, instas going away wouldn't hurt me much, but I'm mainly a cruiser/frig pilot. Only used insurance 1-2x when I was young, but then again I'm not a PVP-ing nowadays.
Clones should stay. No clones: everybody in frigs w00t \o/ - fun for frig maniacs, not for others.
Stargates will need to go aswell so no gatecamping can happen - random jump-in points. To allow capturing others allow sort-of-free warping in solarsystems. Every ship can scan for other ships but probes and specialised ships can scan much faster.
If the game goes too much hardcore then people will just leave. Why? Easy: RL is teh ultimate hardcore MMO and there is no subsciption! (Or at least I can't complain that my RL isn't hardcore enough )
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Kovacs Caprios
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:49:00 -
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I thought playing minmatar was hard mode!!
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Boonaki
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Torrence Osti
I hope not. If this was ever implemented it better damn well be optional, not too many people find frustration fun.
It will never be implemented :(
On the clone thing, maybe lose less skillpoints then a full month or more of training. Say 1 week.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 13:58:00 -
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Let's just call it for what it really is: Boring mode.
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Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:17:00 -
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No WCS, no instas, no local, no high end agents <- Yay
Logging off, no insurance <- Meh... Not really pro or against, although CTD can be a problem
No upgradeble clones <- No.
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Valrandir
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:36:00 -
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Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
Good
No WCS
No, change WCS back to how they were when first introduced: Medium slot module with activation.
Then add a capacitor capacity penality.
No Instas
Keep bookmarks, but put native invisible warp bubble of 15km radius around stations and stargates. So we cannot warp closer then 15km from station/stargates, but we still can use bookmarks generally.
No local
Make us visible in local only if we speak.
No insurance
Most Excellent
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
humm... I don't like this one much.
No high end agents in high sec space
Most Excellent
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Valrandir
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
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Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
bad condidering the number of CTDs
Change probe time from 75 seconds (cov ops 5/astrometrics 5) to 2-3 minutes. Enough time to log back in, if you CTD. Network loss on your side is your fault.
I'm not saying these should be changed, Eve needs balance between the carebear and the pvpers. This would just be fun for those that enjoy dificulty.
75 second is only with max skills on a dedicated ship, and 75 seconds is long enought to log back in after a CTD.
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Puke
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.03 14:43:00 -
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I'm fine with all of them, but 2 tweaks for those who are against it....
1) Clones still exist but cost 3-4 times as much, as mentioned earlier
2) Ship only stays in space if you log off in system with any other pilots presently logged on. Will only dissapear if you are in system on your own at the time the connection is lost.
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Nicocat
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.03 16:23:00 -
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Everything currently in this list, and most everything in EVE in general, has a place and a purpose, and more importantly, a counter. Insurance is countered by the fact that you only get back 70% of the ship value, roughly, when you factor in insurance cost. Instas by warp bubbles (if you're going to PvP, quit being a gatecamping wuss). Clones by a... well, ok, the cost should go up. Agents in highsec space countered by being boring as hell.
I like the game the way it is. Quit trying to ruin it.
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.03 16:45:00 -
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if these things were implemented the number of players would drop to... 10? (and i don't mean K)
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Boonaki
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
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Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
bad condidering the number of CTDs
Change probe time from 75 seconds (cov ops 5/astrometrics 5) to 2-3 minutes. Enough time to log back in, if you CTD. Network loss on your side is your fault.
I'm not saying these should be changed, Eve needs balance between the carebear and the pvpers. This would just be fun for those that enjoy dificulty.
75 second is only with max skills on a dedicated ship, and 75 seconds is long enought to log back in after a CTD.
I think maybe a compromise
your ship still warps off, but stays in the system.
the problem is that it's not always a client problem when you have a CTD... there have been several times just this year when specific parts of the world, such as the U.S. are cut off and the rest isn't.
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spurious signal
Caldari
Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:49:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Boonaki
What do you think eve would be like if it had a "hard" mode? Just a fun little post for people that think the state of the game is a bit to hard for them.
Logging off - When you log off, your ship stays in space forever
No WCS
No Instas
No local
No insurance
No upgradeable clones (like getting podded without an upgraded clone now)
No high end agents in high sec space
Would you still go out and pvp with the above ruleset? Do you think it would be nothing but a "griefers" paradise?
eh, whatever.
EVE's subscription numbers would halve overnight.
That's what the "hardcore" always forget in all MMORPGs - not everyone plays the same way they do. Also it's always that same hardcore that are the most vocal on forums.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: spurious signal
EVE's subscription numbers would halve overnight.
So, not only would we have a better game, we'd have less lag too?
Winnah!
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Tharrn
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.08.03 17:56:00 -
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No instas, no insurance and no high end agents in high sec space sounds three years ago :P
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