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Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.03 16:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Garia666 on 03/08/2006 16:49:13 My setup + explanation I have been searching for a close range setup with a good tanking. just like in the old day`s with the duramaller. As its far from a duramaller my setup is more or less fitted for 1 vs 1 pvp And with the right skillz and using it right you can take out an tech II raven just by your self. The setup posted on the forum is the following : HI 4 x Heavy Pulse Laser II 3 x Medium nos II Med 1 x Medium Capbooster II 1 x x5 webber 1 x fainth warp prohibitor I 1 x ab tech II Low 3 x tech II hardners 2 x best nano plates you can afford ( corpum a-type energized adaptive nano ) 1 x medium armor repair II Resists on first setup This setup actualy truly rocks however 1 singel repairer tech II botherd me a bit so i came up with an setup with 2 repairers.. The resistances arent as good but still the lowest is 84% Hi 4 x heavy pulse II 3 x med nos II Med 1 x 10mn ab tech II 1 x Faint warp prohibittor I 1 x Darkblood webber 1 x medium cap booster II Low 2 x medium armor rep II 2 x best nano you can afford ( Corpum a-type energized adaptive nano Darkblood adaptive nano ect ect) 1 x beta reactor control 1 x thermic hardner tech II final word: You should play around and see what works best for you. If you realy want to get the full potentional of this ship you probably need more out of your bonusses So my best guess is that a snipping damnation could be even better however i am still working on a good setup.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.03 16:59:00 - [2] That first setup, ** me thats some good tanking! Sure, the 2nd one has 2 reps, but omfg! Thatd tank what, 900 DPS easy. The 2nd one would probably tank more, but you cant boast 90% resistances! --------------------------- Originally by:** HippoKing ...I suck at forums
Fon Revedhort RUS Academy Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.03 17:05:00 - [3] Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation.
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.08.03 17:08:00 - [4] Why would you choose a Damnation for 1v1 PvP? An Absolution would do the job much better. The Damnation is built for gang modules.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.03 17:22:00 - [5] Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation. Ive killed ravens using brutix's --------------------------- Originally by: HippoKing ...I suck at forums
Valea Silpha Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.08.03 19:00:00 - [6] I'd go for the uber resist set-up. Although two reps is nice, taking less damage to start with is better IMHO. Just remember that that at 90% you are taking about a third less damage than at 85%, and its more sustainable to have jsut one rep. I would guess this chaps using a damnation becuase its a sexier model, or becuase its just what he has to hand. Not everyone can shell out for both. <Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing <Hammerhead> I just stand behind him, look at his monitor and shake my head
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.04 18:45:00 - [7] Edited by: Garia666 on 04/08/2006 18:46:06 Originally by: Valea Silpha I'd go for the uber resist set-up. Although two reps is nice, taking less damage to start with is better IMHO. Just remember that that at 90% you are taking about a third less damage than at 85%, and its more sustainable to have jsut one rep. I would guess this chaps using a damnation becuase its a sexier model, or becuase its just what he has to hand. Not everyone can shell out for both. mabe i forgot to add that you can switch those medium Nos II for the gang assits mods with otu any problem and keep the same setup.
Foulis Minmatar Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.04 19:35:00 - [8] Next time I see you in local I'm loading thermal ammo makes note. ---- Cake > Pie - Imaran Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Capt 69 Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:17:00 - [9] Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener 3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS Hey garia o/ This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P) Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;)
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.06 17:46:00 - [10] LOL capt :) i would just polish that bay in my hangar m8 :) anyway as soon as i got some isk ill try it out.. :)
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:59:00 - [11] I started out with a very negative stand against fitting a damnation up for solo/small scale pvp. But after a few mails concerning the amarr BC's/commandship, i started playing around with setups, and did a few calculations. Youre first setup is nice on paper, but even with those high resists, 2 reps is a must imo, and the ship has the cap to sustain it(at least with this setup, which is much like the ops.) 4 t2 medium pulses 3 Dim/named mediium nosfs Y-S8 AB 90% web 20k Scrambler Medium electro cap injector(with 800 charges) T2 medium rep 'acco medium rep 2x t2 thermal hardeners t2 EM hardener t2 Kenetic hardener 5 t2 light drones Setup fits with only 1.9 pg left and 53 cpu. About 255 dps with max skills and conflag crystals(+ drones) I havent tested it yet, but as soon as i can get my ship out of c-j, i will give it a try, and let you know. /Mav <3
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.08.07 10:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation. heh... This ship will tank youre raven till the end of days And meanwhile suck youre cap dry, so unless you got backup or stabs... pop <3
ATOMSMASHER	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:11:00 - [13] Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Heavy Missile Launcher True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Domination 10mn mwd Domination Stasis Webifier Conjunctive Radar ECCM True Sansha Cap Recharger Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano True Sansha Armor EM Hardener True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay Drones: Hornet II x5
Soros	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:20:00 - [14] Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !!
ATOMSMASHER	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:24:00 - [15] Edited by: ATOMSMASHER on 07/08/2006 11:25:10 Originally by: Soros Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !! why wouldn't you want to fit the best to win a fight?
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:24:00 - [16] 255 dps.... LOL... give me my astarte anyday, only 70-80% resist, but 1000dps with void and drones. :-D
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:26:00 - [17] Originally by: ATOMSMASHER Edited by: ATOMSMASHER on 07/08/2006 11:24:59 Originally by: Soros Unles the setup specifically needs the very best officer / deadspace modules fitted wise, why does everyone find it neccessary to put gistii, corpum, dominination, bfore everything ? Just a point lol .. the setups here are very interested and i look foward to testing them out when i can finally fly the damn thing !! why wouldn't you want to fit the best to win a fight? Blobs are inevitable... <3
ATOMSMASHER	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:35:00 - [18] Originally by: inSpirAcy Why would you choose a Damnation for 1v1 PvP? An Absolution would do the job much better. The Damnation is built for gang modules. and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk...
Angus Torg	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:11:00 - [19] I guess this tank won't resist an Blastarte for ever. But if you're lucky, the Astarte runs out of cap boosters.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Angus Torg I guess this tank won't resist an Blastarte for ever. But if you're lucky, the Astarte runs out of cap boosters. And a blastarte would definetly tank 255 dps.. so...
Dallenovic	Posted - 2006.08.19 13:30:00 - [21] Waiting for logisitcs 4 to finish and im going to try this setup for gangs. HighSlots 1x Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control 1x Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair 1x Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense 4x Heavy Beam Laser II (with Aurora M loaded Gleam M cargo) MidSlots 2x Sensor Booster 2x tracking Computer LowSlots 1x Corpum A-type Medium Armor Repairer 1x Corpum A-type Enregized Thermic Membrane 1x Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano 1x Tracking Enhancer II 2x 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer The Idea is to sit back from the fight at about 100km? and boost the gang while snipering. Only problem ive noticed so far with this ship is the bonus reads 5% to medium energy turret optimal range rather than 10% like most other ships.
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.08.19 13:38:00 - [22] Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk... I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent. Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time. Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart...
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 03:17:00 - [23] Originally by: inSpirAcy Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk... I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent. Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time. Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart... when your out of cap there is nothing much left to tank. 2 medium nos II is enough to get most ships out of cap..
ShadowKi Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.23 04:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener 3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS Hey garia o/ This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P) Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;) O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy!
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.23 04:00:00 - [25] Originally by: inSpirAcy Originally by: ATOMSMASHER and yet another future podling who thinks inside "the box". tsk tsk... I'm getting really tired of defending myself from crap like this. If you can't argue with facts - only, vague meaningless slurs - then don't argue at all. It makes you look incredibly incompetent. Fact: in 1v1, the Damnation has such pathetic DPS that its slightly better tank can't make up for it. It's a gang module platform, plain and simple. The Absolution would beat it hands down, every single time. Seriously, that comment's so stupid I don't know where to begin tearing it apart... The Damnation is also half the price, looks better, and doesn't do all that much less damage. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes
Hydrogen Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:14:00 - [26] Edited by: Hydrogen on 05/09/2006 12:15:17 Originally by: ShadowKi Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II Heavy Pulse Laser II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster [1xCap Booster 800] Domination 10MN Afterburner Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener 3150 shield, 10.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/70/90 4687 armor, E/T/K/Ex=94/91/94/92 3240.0 cap, +17.64/s, -41.438/s 468.9231587837837 m/s 0.0 DPS Hey garia o/ This setup may be aliiiitle excessive, but it has a point, if youre willing to spend the cash for the corpum EANMs, you should atleast put good faction/deepspace hardeners and repairer on it, the midslots however can NP be used with normal named mods or t2 and not lose too much because of it, same with the NOS (medium diminishing nos has the same drain and range as T2 but a lighter fitting btw ;P) Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;) O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy! 2 x Radar ECM + dampener + scrambler + webber ... Luckily none would fit such a setup, or? Will you 1vs1 me in your setup please AF Guide
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:41:00 - [27] Edited by: Garia666 on 05/09/2006 13:41:47 Originally by: Hydrogen Edited by: Hydrogen on 05/09/2006 12:15:17 Originally by: ShadowKi Originally by: Capt 69 Damnation Timmy out, i hope your new Abso is treating ya allright, its better suited for what you do by far ;) O_o, thats a few billion in modules, crazy! 2 x Radar ECM + dampener + scrambler + webber ... Luckily none would fit such a setup, or? Will you 1vs1 me in your setup please As you can See here a Damnation only has 4 med slots..
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.22 11:22:00 - [28] lollerskates! you guys make baby jesus cry tis a shame no matter what setup you guys use above, a curse piloted by a decent pilot will take it down. heavy missiles or not if ya dont believe me get hold of me ingame and we will take it to sisi - Think your having a bad day? Imagine this, Your a siamese Twin joined at the hip,Your brother is *** & your not, His lover is comming around and you only have one bottom.
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2006.10.22 11:57:00 - [29] Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: Fon Revedhort Show me the Raven you've taken out using this. That setup is the most banal one can ever invent to damnation. heh... This ship will tank youre raven till the end of days And meanwhile suck youre cap dry, so unless you got backup or stabs... pop A properly fitted Raven will have 2 Heavy Nos, so he would actually slowly suck the damnation dry. He might run out of ammo before that Damnation runs out of HP though ;) --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.22 13:54:00 - [30] Ive not flown a Damnation...but its not that different to an Absolution. If ur using HP..u really need a MWD tbh. There damn slow. Id go for a dual rep and slightly lower resists myself. And as said. If ur willing ot use 350 mil nanos..Use Domi Scram etc. And enough of the this ship would kill that ship. Each ship has strengths and weaknesses. Dont try to compare them directly in pvp. Current RKK Ranking: (AMM14) Fleet Admiral - 900 kills
FraXy Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.22 14:07:00 - [31] Single rep tank on the Damnation is a big no no, unless u are counting on gangmembers to remote rep u. The slight increase u get from 1 EANM II vs the HP/sec from the second repper is not even close to each other. Dual-Rep tank is the only way to go if u want a powerfull tank. Now, i just started training for the Damnation, but it`s a support ship so i took the liberty to create a support setup for it: HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair E50 Prototype Energy Vampire E50 Prototype Energy Vampire E50 Prototype Energy Vampire Medium 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Medium 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [1xCap Booster 800] Fleeting Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Warp Scrambler I LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Thermic Hardener II True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener 1879/1887.5 Grid 538/550 CPU Approx resists is (think quickfit is little incorrect on resist stats): ~82 EM ~91 Explosive ~92 Kinetic ~87 Thermal 73.3 HP/sec without the ganglink (can`t fly Damnation yet and don`t know how to implement the Command bonus, but with link a valid guess would be maybe 90 HP/sec) 73.3 HP/sec: EM - 407 DPS Expl - 815 DPS Kin - 916 DPS Thm - 564 DPS ~90 HP/sec: EM - 500 DPS Expl - 1000 DPS Kin - 1125 DPS Thm - 692 DPS It`s a support setup for smaller scale warfare and it`s role is to drop -2 on a target while nossing to keep itself alive and get cap to run remote repairers to keep rest of gang alive. I excluded the "Adaptive-Link" because most armor tankers (T2 mainly) have 1-2 resist holes and use maybe 1 active hardener and 2 EANM/1 EANM and DCU so the Link would get nerfed with the stacking-penalty. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.10.23 11:26:00 - [32] Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 23/10/2006 11:35:21 Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 23/10/2006 11:31:44 Originally by: FraXy Approx resists is (think quickfit is little incorrect on resist stats): ~82 EM ~91 Explosive ~92 Kinetic ~87 Thermal 73.3 HP/sec without the ganglink (can`t fly Damnation yet and don`t know how to implement the Command bonus, but with link a valid guess would be maybe 90 HP/sec) 73.3 HP/sec: EM - 407 DPS Expl - 815 DPS Kin - 916 DPS Thm - 564 DPS ~90 HP/sec: EM - 500 DPS Expl - 1000 DPS Kin - 1125 DPS Thm - 692 DPS It`s a support setup for smaller scale warfare and it`s role is to drop -2 on a target while nossing to keep itself alive and get cap to run remote repairers to keep rest of gang alive. I excluded the "Adaptive-Link" because most armor tankers (T2 mainly) have 1-2 resist holes and use maybe 1 active hardener and 2 EANM/1 EANM and DCU so the Link would get nerfed with the stacking-penalty. iirc, the only person in the gang not to get the command bonuses is the command ship itself ....could be wrong though ....noticed in my damnation that while show info on the command mods show ~-12%, (still working on skills and no imlant fitted) my armour repairer is still showing the usual stats. Also, this crap of putting all faction/officer mods into quickfit and putting it on here as viable is stupid ... no-one does that (unless their wallets are endless), people just fit T2 mods 95% of the time and best named if they have fitting issues Oh and I use my ship as support only, staying well back from the fighting ... and in fleet fights a fully skilled and implant pilot would be invaluable as most people in big T2 fleets (should) fit for gank only and this would allow them to dispense with a T2 EANM and put in another damage mod ... wont get you out if you are primaried, but may save you from a pesky AF (give a little more time for your T2 warriors to kill/drive him off)
TerrorWOLF J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.23 12:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Radioactive Babe iirc, the only person in the gang not to get the command bonuses is the command ship itself ....could be wrong though ....noticed in my damnation that while show info on the command mods show ~-12%, (still working on skills and no imlant fitted) my armour repairer is still showing the usual stats. You get the bonus. But you need to be in gang and atleast one member needs to be in system and not docked May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.10.23 12:45:00 - [34] Originally by: TerrorWOLF Originally by: Radioactive Babe iirc, the only person in the gang not to get the command bonuses is the command ship itself ....could be wrong though ....noticed in my damnation that while show info on the command mods show ~-12%, (still working on skills and no imlant fitted) my armour repairer is still showing the usual stats. You get the bonus. But you need to be in gang and atleast one member needs to be in system and not docked Ahh ... thats why I didnt see it, other gang member was not in system ....cheers
sbaker Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE	Posted - 2006.11.04 02:50:00 - [35] Okay I see there alot of PvP set-up but no mission running set up, yes I am carebear so what.... I use 3* heavy beam t2 and 3* heavy missiles and 1 nos t2 high mid: 1 * 10mn ab t2, 1* tracking ench 1* target painter 1* cap recharger lows: 1* med repper t2 1* heat sink 1* BCU 1* therm passive 1* nanno passive 1* 800mm plate yes I know it lame setup but i just step into it just now I going to see if i can drop the med repper and putin an larger repper and have a bit of play around with and if any1 has a good setup for lvl 4 mission post here sb Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well... My top 5 videos and worst top 5 videos coming soon!.
LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.04 02:59:00 - [36] Originally by: sbaker Okay I see there alot of PvP set-up but no mission running set up, yes I am carebear so what.... I use 3* heavy beam t2 and 3* heavy missiles and 1 nos t2 high mid: 1 * 10mn ab t2, 1* tracking ench 1* target painter 1* cap recharger lows: 1* med repper t2 1* heat sink 1* BCU 1* therm passive 1* nanno passive 1* 800mm plate yes I know it lame setup but i just step into it just now I going to see if i can drop the med repper and putin an larger repper and have a bit of play around with and if any1 has a good setup for lvl 4 mission post here sb Why would you put in a large repper 0_o.. it takes 2k+ powergrid.. double reps works great on this ship, with a few cap mods.. Btw.. this ship dosnt do much in terms of damage, so i really doubt that you could use this ship for lvl 4 missions, cause its tank is strong, but it does wet-water-paper-bag damage hehe <3
Darksaber64x Ecchi co.	Posted - 2006.11.04 03:17:00 - [37] On a side note, the ship should be named "Darnation" so we can actually post it on the forum. Other possible names could be: Dangnation Dratnation Dangnabbitnation Aside from that point, eesh, 90% to em, exp and kinetic with 85% to therm... that's crazy.
Sunsets The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.11.04 03:50:00 - [38] Would it be better to throw on an internal force field dc in the place of a hardener if you've got passive defence running? I was under the impression the stacking penalty applied to it.
sbaker Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE	Posted - 2006.11.04 11:19:00 - [39] Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: sbaker Okay I see there alot of PvP set-up but no mission running set up, yes I am carebear so what.... I use 3* heavy beam t2 and 3* heavy missiles and 1 nos t2 high mid: 1 * 10mn ab t2, 1* tracking ench 1* target painter 1* cap recharger lows: 1* med repper t2 1* heat sink 1* BCU 1* therm passive 1* nanno passive 1* 800mm plate yes I know it lame setup but i just step into it just now I going to see if i can drop the med repper and putin an larger repper and have a bit of play around with and if any1 has a good setup for lvl 4 mission post here sb Why would you put in a large repper 0_o.. it takes 2k+ powergrid.. double reps works great on this ship, with a few cap mods.. Btw.. this ship dosnt do much in terms of damage, so i really doubt that you could use this ship for lvl 4 missions, cause its tank is strong, but it does wet-water-paper-bag damage hehe okay after doing 3 lvl 4 mission i agree with u it does do wet-water-paper-bag damage and I am not happy with it... duo of death mission with the sentry guns do alot of damage when there is like 5 of them at the end i got this setup top: 3* heavy beam lasers t2, 2* heavy missile, 1 standard missile, 1* med nos t2 mids: 10mn ab t2, tracking computer t2 , target painter t2, cap recharger lows: med repper t2, therm passive t2, nano passive t2, heat sink t2, BCU T2, 1600mm plate. drone bay: small drones I am thinking of droping the heat sink and bcu and put in the nano passive to get more high resits.... so I only train to lvl 2.... I think it needs it target range to be bigger locking on from 50-60k is a joke. I do not know...i guess some more playing around will get the right set up,....keep an eye on this section sb Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well... My top 5 videos and worst top 5 videos coming soon!.
Talen Reaper	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:26:00 - [40] I am training command ships ATM and have been reading up in these forums about the 2 amarr ships & I haven't found much info on using the **ation in anything other than pvp& gang application's ...& I know that's what this ship is designed for ..but I am med laser specked & heavy missiles have them in specialty lv 4 I currently fly a sac...and it holds up fairly well in most lv 3 missions ...what I am looking for is a lv 4 mission setup for the ation...I am currently thinking about just setting it up along the same lines as my sac ..which is a sniper setup with cap recharger's in the mids and a tracker.....& drkblood energised passives (3) in the lows with a DC & ar2 my resists set at 85% except thermal at 75 docked they go up when dc is activated 15% ....the **ation has better starter resists than the abs so I was just wondering why it doesn't get more love & isn't used more as an all around ship . I will be putting beams on it & launchers so no closeup builds please there are a bunch already
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:45:00 - [41] Originally by: Darksaber64x On a side note, the ship should be named "Darnation" so we can actually post it on the forum. Other possible names could be: Dangnation Dratnation Dangnabbitnation Aside from that point, eesh, 90% to em, exp and kinetic with 85% to therm... that's crazy. qft And
Talen Reaper	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:51:00 - [42] sorry sbaker I dident mean to discount your build I was just looking for more info than you provided ...& I can hit at 75k with my sac not limited to the 50-60k.you mentioned... I use focused med beam laser 2 & aurora crystals with a f-12 tracking processor in a mid slot....I havent had mutch of a prob with frigs getting to close they usually pop befor the can close range ...& if they do I just send my drones after them ...
Agent2 Holtze Amarr Caldari Scouting and Intel Group	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:55:00 - [43] 4x Heavy pulse TII 3x Med NOS 1x MWD TII web, scram and cap booster 2x MAR TII 1x Therm hardner TII 2x EANM' TII 1x RCU TII (or PDU can't remember atm) Not the same solo boat as EOS, but then again it wasn't designed for that =) Posting and you!
sbaker Amarr Bogans INC	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:47:00 - [44] Okay after doing some lvl 4 mission in the d-nation... my final setup was this: H: 3* heavy beam lasers 4* heavy missile M: 10mn ab, tracking computer, target painter, cap recharger L: med repper, 1600mm plate 2* therm passive 2* energized adaptive nano drones: small t2 drones.... Pros: good tank, able to with stand alot of firepower (now with the new armour hp increase) able to take out alot of ship....the down side is it take long time to take down an bs... My range with skill is 62K.... the only way u could get a bigger lock like 70k plus is drop the tracking and put in a sensor booster.....but by the time your missiles reach the target it has heal it self....so you need to get in closer... If i had my way with it....I give it a bonus that it can fire torps only... and can not fit any other missiles, or give it an bonus to missiles is some kinda shap or form.....but now with the new BC out....is there going to be an new command ship?? if yes when? just thinking sb Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well... My top 5 videos and worst top 5 videos coming soon!.
sbaker Amarr Bogans INC	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:57:00 - [45] Originally by: Talen Reaper sorry sbaker I dident mean to discount your build I was just looking for more info than you provided ...& I can hit at 75k with my sac not limited to the 50-60k.you mentioned... I use focused med beam laser 2 & aurora crystals with a f-12 tracking processor in a mid slot....I havent had mutch of a prob with frigs getting to close they usually pop befor the can close range ...& if they do I just send my drones after them ... Well yes I played around with the SAC doing lvl 3 mission... and I found it a bit short.. the only reason I train for the damnation was for the extra high an the extra low slot.. you will find the damnation handles alot better than the SAC, if u can get hold of t2 heavy beams, or look for faction heavy beams (yes I know dear) its does come in handy. The standard lock on an damnation is about 50K with my skills its brings it to 62K (from the top of my head).....and its not a support ship... thats whats the Guardain is for... Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well... My top 5 videos and worst top 5 videos coming soon!.
Asurix Caldari StoneDogS The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.01.02 15:29:00 - [46] Originally by: Valea Silpha I'd go for the uber resist set-up. Although two reps is nice, taking less damage to start with is better IMHO. Just remember that that at 90% you are taking about a third less damage than at 85%, and its more sustainable to have jsut one rep. I would guess this chaps using a damnation becuase its a sexier model, or becuase its just what he has to hand. Not everyone can shell out for both. rather just fit 2 rep, drop some nos and fit more resistance stuff, 2 rep will rep more dmg over time then 1 rep even with 87,5% resistances instead of 90% ;) You need to be able to tank alot of incoming damage since if you're a fleet command ship (especially a damnation since that's the only thing it's good at) the enemy will prolly assume you have gang mods going and you'll be primary.
Almarez	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:43:00 - [47] Why not go with 4 HAM's. I know the bonuses are for turrets but who cares, one is a garbage bonus and the other does nothing for DPS, except maybe you hit a little more often. If you really want to use the Damnation for solo pvp, I would do 4 HAM 3 NOS setup then the meds and lows use whatever you want. Also, if and when CCP does the Khannid Mk II and changes the bonus to a missle rof or missle damage this setup will be even sweeter. Although, I do have to concur, for 1vs1 pvp use an absolution, the DPS on that thing is pretty sweet.
Talen Reaper AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.03.19 01:25:00 - [48] I have been playing around a bit with setups haven't settled on any but was wondering about Riggs ..seems like with 2 slots you could do quite a bit ...also this ship has lots of versatilely ..I put a cloak II on it and freaked out some privateers dock camping in amarr..was funny as hell when I decloaked 5k away ....also 65 mil to 168 mil is 1 reason to find a killer setup hell I can buy 2 and set them up completely different for the Price of 1 ABS
Talia Windheart Minmatar Emerald Empire	Posted - 2007.04.04 23:01:00 - [49] 4x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II 3x Mediun Nos II 1x 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x Fleeting Web 1x Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster 1x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates 1x EAN II 1x DCU II 1x Armor Kinetic Thermic II 2x Medium Armor Repairer II 5x Light ECM Drones 2x Ancillary Current Router I
Blind Man Kemono. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.04 23:44:00 - [50] Edited by: Blind Man on 04/04/2007 23:40:29 just wanted to note that without gang mods this ship is as useless as a warrior that can't hold aggro
Tzesaeia	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:10:00 - [51] Anyone got some rev2 setups the last one with rigs was ok but some more ideas. I thought about about the range bonus? You could use it in a small gang for pulses like this: 4 Heavy Pulse t2 witch scorch crystal command ship lvl4. With scorch M you get slighty out of nos range while dealing nice dmg. So you could spare the high slots from fitting counter nos. Tackler is needed because the idea is to orbit the enemy at 26km to avoid NOS. The Orbit makes it impossible to web/scram the enemy to dictate range. Remote Repair is also needed very likely. Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xParadise Fury Cruise Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xThunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II N-Type Thermic Hardener I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Warrior TP-300 (target painter) Warrior TP-300 Warrior II Warrior II Warrior II 3363 shield, 8.97/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/73/91 6006 armor, E/T/K/Ex=79/82/80/89 2531.25 cap, +9.77/s, -39.82/s 986.0 m/s 125.1 DPS I tried that crazy thing in Quickfit only with a basic char without any skills ( I always pressed set skills to maximum when I installed a module . Those are the skills quickfit applied for this to fit: Heavy Missiles lvl 5 Energy Systems Operation lvl 1 Standard Missiles lvl 3 Missile Launcher Operation lvl 5 Engineering lvl 2 Motion Prediction lvl 4 Science lvl 1 Medium Energy Turret lvl 5 Small Energy Turret lvl 5 Cruise Missile Specialization lvl 1 Heavy Missile Specialization lvl 1 Gunnery lvl 3 Hull Upgrades lvl 5 Repair Systems lvl 1 Mechanic lvl 3 Target Painting lvl 3 Medium Pulse Laser Specialization lvl 1 Small Pulse Laser Specialization lvl 4 Minmatar Drone Specialization lvl 1 Battlecruisers lvl 5 High Speed Maneuvering lvl 1 Jury Rigging lvl 4 Logistics lvl 4 Afterburner lvl 4 Warfare Link Specialist lvl 4 Navigation lvl 4 Leadership lvl 5 Scout Drone Operation lvl 5 Drones lvl 5 Signature Analysis lvl 5 Command Ships lvl 1 Amarr Cruiser lvl 5 Long Range Targeting lvl 5 Electronic Warfare lvl 4 Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing lvl 1 Amarr Frigate lvl 4 Electronics lvl 3 Energy Grid Upgrades lvl 5 Spaceship Command lvl 5 Cruise Missiles lvl 5 Uppermost important are missle skills at lvl4 minimum for missle velocity and flight time. If you don't have those, you can't stay at 26km orbit to hit. *Why don't I use maximum dmg at close range with the conflags in this special case?* 1.Cause Gallente are better at close range than anybody else while their dmg at medium range is slightly worse compared to amarr. Here some figures to that by CCP: DMG Figures 2.Cause I can avoid beeing nosed. 3. I can avoid beeing webbed and scrambed. This setup is just for fun it is nothin serious. Post your rev2 ideas here, serious or not, just what u think about this nicest ship in the universe ever! Plz describe what you use a setup for befor posting since this thread contains all kinf of setups for the damnation: Solo PVP , Small Gangs PVP, PVE, Fleetsetups(with warfare links), Big Gangs (with warfare links)
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:21:00 - [52] I honestly don't see the point of using a damnation over the absolution unless you're gonna use more than 1 warfare link. The absolution is so much better as a general combat ship. DE
Tzesaeia	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:30:00 - [53] A variation with 2 reps and a standart launcher against frigs: Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xParadise Fury Cruise Missile] Heavy Missile Launcher II [40xScourge Fury Heavy Missile] Standard Missile Launcher II [50xBloodclaw Precision Light Missile] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines Reactor Control Unit II N-Type Thermic Hardener I Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Power Diagnostic System II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Warrior TP-300 Warrior TP-300 Warrior II Warrior II Warrior II 3531 shield, 10.29/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/73/91 6006 armor, E/T/K/Ex=74/79/76/87 2657.8123793005943 cap, +11.21/s, -57.598/s 912.0 m/s 114.7 DPS Missle dmg type was choosen randomly.
Tzesaeia	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:31:00 - [54] Quote: I honestly don't see the point of using a damnation over the absolution unless you're gonna use more than 1 warfare link. The absolution is so much better as a general combat ship. Just because the absolution is rose/pink.
Tzesaeia	Posted - 2007.07.11 19:57:00 - [55] And again it's me. Looks like nobody likes the Damnation anymore...well makes it cheaper so I can have more of them. BTW Damnation has a med slot more, it has more cpu, it has more flexible dmg cause of the missile launchers and it has better resistances than the Absolution. Especially the launchers give an advantage. When it comes to fighting a Sleipnir for example since Sleip is heavy em/thermal tanked. Furthermore missiles are immune to tracking disruptors fitted eg. on the curse. Missles don't need cap, missles can be fired even if your beeing jammed. AND it isn't rose/pink. Here another Setup for small gangs with a tackler. It is basically the same idea but with a slight improvement I think. It has less dmg than 4 pulse would have but and thats the point it is more flexible, when it comes to dmg type. And it has only really slightly less dmg than 4 pulse. Tracking disruptors are really nice on this since it keeps your enemy, if he is in a gunboat, from hitting your perfect tank at all. Damnation Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [50xFulmination Javelin Assault Missile] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [50xFulmination Javelin Assault Missile] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [50xFulmination Javelin Assault Missile] Heavy Pulse Laser II [1xScorch M] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II [50xFulmination Javelin Assault Missile] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Sensor Booster II N-Type Thermic Hardener I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Rigs : Bay Loading Accelerator I \ Bay Loading Accelerator I \ Warrior II Warrior II Warrior II Warrior II Warrior II 3363 shield, 6.73/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/69/89 6006 armor, E/T/K/Ex=80/82/81/90 2531.25 cap, +11.03/s, -55.887/s 936.0 m/s 223,925 DPS It is again out of Quickfit without any skills applied but those quickfit suggested when a module was installed. Skills are as follows: Energy Systems Operation lvl 1 Standard Missiles lvl 3 Missile Launcher Operation lvl 5 Weapon Upgrades lvl 4 Engineering lvl 1 Motion Prediction lvl 4 Medium Energy Turret lvl 5 Small Energy Turret lvl 5 Gunnery lvl 3 Heavy Assault Missiles lvl 5 Hull Upgrades lvl 5 Heavy Assault Missile Specialization lvl 1 Repair Systems lvl 4 Mechanic lvl 4 Target Painting lvl 3 Medium Pulse Laser Specialization lvl 1 Small Pulse Laser Specialization lvl 4 Minmatar Drone Specialization lvl 1 Launcher Rigging lvl 4 Battlecruisers lvl 5 High Speed Maneuvering lvl 1 Armor Rigging lvl 1 Jury Rigging lvl 3 Logistics lvl 4 Afterburner lvl 4 Warfare Link Specialist lvl 4 Navigation lvl 4 Leadership lvl 5 Scout Drone Operation lvl 5 Drones lvl 5 Weapon Disruption lvl 2 Signature Analysis lvl 5 Command Ships lvl 1 Amarr Cruiser lvl 5 Long Range Targeting lvl 5 Electronic Warfare lvl 4 Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing lvl 1 Amarr Frigate lvl 4 Electronics lvl 3 Spaceship Command lvl 5 Gonna try replace the heavy pulse with beams since those would make even more dmg.
Tzesaeia	Posted - 2007.07.12 11:27:00 - [56] *NEW REV SETUP THREAD*
Sarah Trouble Destroy Erase Improve	Posted - 2007.09.11 20:35:00 - [57] any ideas now , after khanid pimpin ?
Reverend Void Amarr Explicitex Network The Eclipse Empire	Posted - 2007.10.05 03:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Sarah Trouble any ideas now , after khanid pimpin ? I'd like to know this as well. I'll be up to the Damnation in a few weeks.
Rebel Deity	Posted - 2007.10.08 17:07:00 - [59] looking at all the setups and shakes her head You have used months training for this ship. You bought it. You are fitting it with luxery. And yet you have failed to see that this baby is a blaster boat NOT a laser boat. Treat it like a Brutix with insane resist and base armor, and stop thinking inside the box! You are all whining about dps AND talking about cap usage. Well blasters will boost dps and lower cap usage. Range problem then? Everything got a range problem, especialy snipers
Yoko Lee	Posted - 2008.01.05 13:47:00 - [60] My actual setup for low secure system : 5x Heavy assault Launcher, 2x warfare link armor 1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x TS med cap inj, 1x TS web, 1x TS warp disruptor 1x TS MAR, 1x 1600mm RT, 2x Amarr navy eanm, 1x armor thermic hardener II, 1x DC II 2x nanopump rigs 5x warrior II (i have slave set implant = 30k armor)
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Mercenary Services	Posted - 2008.01.05 19:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Yoko Lee My actual setup for low secure system : 5x Heavy assault Launcher, 2x warfare link armor 1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x TS med cap inj, 1x TS web, 1x TS warp disruptor 1x TS MAR, 1x 1600mm RT, 2x Amarr navy eanm, 1x armor thermic hardener II, 1x DC II 2x nanopump rigs 5x warrior II (i have slave set implant = 30k armor) good setup! ->My Vids<-
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.01.07 12:17:00 - [62] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 07/01/2008 12:18:11 i'll be able to fly this ship in a few months, and was wondering about a setup for small gang PvP. The setup below is what i came up with. 258k hitpoints if ganged. Only a single repper, yes, but as i understood it, PvP is more about endurance than active rep-capacity anyway. [Damnation, PvP Command] [Lows] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Damage Control II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I [Mids] 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Faint Warp Prohibitor I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 [Highs] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defence [Rigs] Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I [Drones] Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Comments are appreciated.
Jessica Molla	Posted - 2008.02.07 13:55:00 - [63] Edited by: Jessica Molla on 07/02/2008 14:01:29 Edited by: Jessica Molla on 07/02/2008 13:57:51 i see a lot of fails here but whatever...this setup is for fleet purposes(preferably in the role of FC) 4x standart missile louncher II or anything else you can fit(its not about damage you know) 3x armor warfare links 1x AB II 2x cap recharger II 1x sensor booster II 2x 1600mm RT plate 1x rep. fleet EANM 1x thermic hardener II 1x rep. fleet MAR 1x DCU/another rep. fleet EANM 2x trimark rig T1/T2 is much better but much more expensive 2x hobgoblin II/warriors II armor mindlink and rep time reduction implant +if you wealthy- slave set(you can replace some T2 modules with faction/officer/deadspace but thats rather risky in a fleet battle) as you can see...the way to go is to passive tank it with massive armor HP buffer and high resists...the mar is there to give you some independence so you dont have to completely rely on logistics to rep every bit of your armor...but they are necessary especially if you got little more expensive fit and slave set in your head...or you are called primary with this setup you can get up to 55k armor with lowest resist of 85%...maybe you can get even higher but thats rather on paper than in reality...it equals to around 450-500k Effective HP...with that much effective hp you can tank whole fleet for couple minutes damage sucks but its not about damage...with light lounchers, range sucks too so you wont get on any KM but who cares when you are FC your role is little different...the bonuses you give are very nice :)

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