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Deakin Frost Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:51:00 - [91] Originally by: Kcel Chim Difference would be that SU was once "one" of your major capital hideouts and any X wasnt. Always hurts if you cant bring it and the forum spin doesnt work. So what if we were to decide to go into BoB space and score some nice kills? It won't count because we weren't killing in S-U? Hey guys, lets stop anything remotely looking like decentralized warfare and instead just get our most expensive ships, unmount the guns and put ourselves up in a row against a wall, because Kcel Chim thinks we aren't allowed to shoot outside S-U. And regarding the spin accusation, I guess only BoB is allowed to do this. ---
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:52:00 - [92] Originally by: Deakin Frost Originally by: Kcel Chim Difference would be that SU was once "one" of your major capital hideouts and any X wasnt. Always hurts if you cant bring it and the forum spin doesnt work. So what if we were to decide to go into BoB space and score some nice kills? It won't count because we weren't killing in S-U? Hey guys, lets stop anything remotely looking like decentralized warfare and instead just get our most expensive ships, unmount the guns and put ourselves up in a row against a wall, because Kcel Chim thinks we aren't allowed to shoot outside S-U. And regarding the spin accusation, I guess only BoB is allowed to do this. Bring it... our carebear alts have too much mining skills and need some practice of skills they rarely use. --------- Torture by ccp: pic
Kari Moltov Amarr The Forsakened Companions GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:53:00 - [93] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/08/2006 10:35:59 Originally by: Kari Moltov My stats are correct if you only look at TFC as a corporation. So you post your corporations kills versus our whole alliance and then complain when I post alliance versus alliance? Sorry, doesn't work like that. This is alliance versus alliance warfare, if you want to post individual corporations vs individual corporations by all means start a new thread. If you want to leave GoonSwarm and not be part of them then you know where the button is. dbp Heh, you're replying so fast we may as well be in the same room. You seem to have missed my point. I'm not talking about the difference of alliance vs alliance, or corporation vs corporation, I only used that to highlight how you can fudge figures to show any result. My issue with your post is that you have taken your kills and losses and noticed that if you only take SU for your data you have no losses. Now I agree that is pretty good given that many Goons live there. However: 1) Many Goons aren't there atm and the one's that are typically are very new and unexperienced. 2) There are many other systems where Goonswarm live and I would hope that BoB have lost ships in more than just 98Q-80. I think the point you wanted to make was that by posting directly that you suffered no losses in SU led, prima facia ,to the fact that potentially GS was struggling everywhere. No-body would know anything about anywhere else. Although not true, you might not have killed anything anywhere else whilst incurring huge losses. I think you should really just post all Goonswarm kills and losses to BoB from the date you invaded, it is much more transparant!
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb Gallente Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:56:00 - [94] You little goonies make me giggle... te-he, te-he-he... Don't forget to ** and moan into the wind... MC Leadership Core** (scary if you ask me)
Ashen Brarn Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:56:00 - [95] My alt rates Goons: Local: very lame 0/10 Corp: lame 2/10 Alliance: lame 2/10 To be honest, mining corps I have been involved in extorting have been funnier/wittier. I can honestly state that while SA/goonfleet may be funny occasionally, it is for the most part a bunch of emo whiners with a superiority complex that can only be found in goth/furry subculture (they don't understand us :(). The poor goonies, they are being picked on by the internet jocks! The whole "we're better than EVERYONE" sub-sub-culture that can be found in support groups is also alive and well in this group. I won't end by saying "i saw great things possible" with GF because I didn't. TBH it's threats such as Bob/d2/mc/eve* which are the only entities that are holding remedial's pet project together. Respect for Remedial internally is about the same as the respect he has by the general EVE population. Yes my kickboxing girlfriend helped me type this because keyboards are far and away too complex for me. I really am enjoying the same jokes being reinforced 30 times a day, corp chat is so fresh. --- Originally by: Won Ton We don't think you have what it takes to roll over us. You don't get it BoB. You're just the next hurdle on the track. Insignificant.
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.08.04 10:59:00 - [96] im surprised the goons havent hit the BOB low sec strangleholds and industrial hangouts and routes that being vehan to and up into the aridia region the syndicate region around ..... kfr-ze and twx-ei (the goons would see that bob travel thro there as well and its still south of d2 space up in outer ring) common goons theres plenty of NPC stations in those sectors to go around so u know what to do pick up the swarm and head a) into aridia b) into the other part of synd c) away from su
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:02:00 - [97] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 04/08/2006 11:04:09 Originally by: Deakin Frost Originally by: Kcel Chim Difference would be that SU was once "one" of your major capital hideouts and any X wasnt. Always hurts if you cant bring it and the forum spin doesnt work. So what if we were to decide to go into BoB space and score some nice kills? It won't count because we weren't killing in S-U? Hey guys, lets stop anything remotely looking like decentralized warfare and instead just get our most expensive ships, unmount the guns and put ourselves up in a row against a wall, because Kcel Chim thinks we aren't allowed to shoot outside S-U. And regarding the spin accusation, I guess only BoB is allowed to do this. The op stated it was about SU -> purpose of this thread. If you wish to discuss other matters you can either try a) to derail this thread with some own numbers in other spots or b) create your own spot. Surfing killboards abit i dont think ull find many huge goonswarm victories to gloat about, however mail me ingame anytime if one slipped through my attention. Syndicate and especially SU was set out to be your capital and homebase from YOUR side not Bobs. I can understand that your old posts now turn sour that you cant back them up anymore ingame. Personally im quiet convinced bob pilots will chain t1 frigs for the next few months if they know you guys keep paying just to lose ships. Afterall they can npc or do other stuff while ur political power diminishes from "a stand alone 0.0 alliance" to "bunch of empire residents". Tho if losing cheap t1 ships is "your thing" in eve i suggest jita or some other 0.5+ system, i hear shooting billboards usually leads to a shiploss and replacements are close by. edit: criminal flagging might be in the way, try selfdestructing velators, you only need 3 minutes to undock, destruct and redock to grab a new one. Have fun !
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:02:00 - [98] Originally by: Kari Moltov I think the point you wanted to make was that by posting directly that you suffered no losses in SU led, prima facia ,to the fact that potentially GS was struggling everywhere. I posted our stats in S-U. It's very clear in my conclusion the reasons for posting in S-U. If you come to your own conclusions then those are your conclusions, not mine. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:08:00 - [99] Originally by: Kcel Chim Tho if losing cheap t1 ships is "your thing" in eve i suggest jita or some other 0.5+ system, i hear shooting billboards usually leads to a shiploss and replacements are close by. The really amusing thing for us is that we get as much pleasure out of killing each and every frigate, noob ship, pod etc as they do out of killing our ships. The only difference is that we are killing hundreds and they are killing like 1 a day if they are lucky. The Isk value of a ship stopped having any real meaning to BoB a loooong time ago. As for profit from this war, everyday they make thousands, tens of thousands of isk in insurance? We make Billions of isk from our infrastructure. Everything is relative. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
tookar	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:10:00 - [100] Go goons ! Looks like your winning to me :) These nabs actually seem to care lol . Bet they are the type who set their alarm clocks for 4am so they can take peoples pos when they are not online . BoB who posted here and that 5 guy are like a black hole sucking all the fun out of anything that comes near them . Having fun camping su- for days lol . Shame eve has turned into who can bore people for the longest to get a kill .
Jacinto Naysmith GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:10:00 - [101] Jokes asside, I honestly don't see why you posted this topic. In your original post, you post kills. Newbie ships, shuttles and frigates. Who honestly cares? There are 14 kills of any note. Those kind of losses aren't even as much as you'd expect to see from a small fleet battle, let alone an entire war. This almost seems more like a GALKO post then anything else, ONE FULLY CHARGED INDUSTRIAL KILLED, GALKO IS VICTORIOUS, LET THE ENTIRE EVE UNIVERSE KNOW!
Deakin Frost Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:11:00 - [102] Originally by: Kcel Chim The op stated it was about SU -> purpose of this thread. No, the only purpose of this thread is huge forum spin. "Hey guys! We're owning Goonswarm so hard, we didn't have any losses at all... ...just in S-U that is... ...where only a small part of them hangs out... ...incidentally those that don't have real experience... ...but we're superstars!" Actually, why do I bother, anyway... ---
Ashen Brarn Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:11:00 - [103] Originally by: Jacinto Naysmith Jokes asside, I honestly don't see why you posted this topic. In your original post, you post kills. Newbie ships, shuttles and frigates. Who honestly cares? There are 14 kills of any note. Those kind of losses aren't even as much as you'd expect to see from a small fleet battle, let alone an entire war. This almost seems more like a GALKO post then anything else, ONE FULLY CHARGED INDUSTRIAL KILLED, GALKO IS VICTORIOUS, LET THE ENTIRE EVE UNIVERSE KNOW! i care ♥ --- Originally by: Won Ton We don't think you have what it takes to roll over us. You don't get it BoB. You're just the next hurdle on the track. Insignificant.
tookar	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:12:00 - [104] Go goons ! Looks like your winning to me :) These nabs actually seem to care lol . Bet they are the type who set their alarm clocks for 4am so they can take peoples pos when they are not online . BoB who posted here and that 5 guy are like a black hole sucking all the fun out of anything that comes near them . Having fun camping su- for days lol . Shame eve has turned into who can bore people for the longest to get a kill . Edit- Good luck taking those npc stations
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:12:00 - [105] Originally by: steveid I cant believe peeps are saying good numbers when they smacktalked UDIE's stats. Goons, get yourself 5 - 10 small roving gangs with frigates and ew cruisers and head on over to BoB and MC space. Make doing anything in there space require a 10 man gang and you'll improve your ratio. You have the numbers - use them. As the great general tacticus once said "if your enemy has in impregnable stronghold - see that they stay there" Worst advice ever. It would only work against an extremely weak alliance who recently lost it's leadership. To any other alliance roaming ganksquads in their home is utterly inefficient and just a means of actually strengthening that alliance when you provide yourself with some entertainment. That's what separates bob from UDIE in this instance. BOB are denying OHGOD of a home by turning their used to be stronghold into their biggest deathtrap while they also hunt them in empire. UDIE would have just skirmished around the edges teaching their noobs how to behave to not get ganked so much. One is called killing them, the other is called helping them. Learn which is which and then give advice from there.
Kari Moltov Amarr The Forsakened Companions GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:15:00 - [106] Edited by: Kari Moltov on 04/08/2006 11:16:42 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Kari Moltov I think the point you wanted to make was that by posting directly that you suffered no losses in SU led, prima facia ,to the fact that potentially GS was struggling everywhere. I posted our stats in S-U. It's very clear in my conclusion the reasons for posting in S-U. If you come to your own conclusions then those are your conclusions, not mine. dbp Indeed they are not your conclusions. You posted this as your conclusion: Quote: The Conclusion GoonSwarm are afraid to engage us in thier own territory. Like so many before them they have gone on the offensive in another territory while we dismantle their homeland. War Fatigue is showing already with a drop in the number of suicide pilots into S-U. They told us they love it but they don't appear to be loving it very much right now. Shortly we will begin the removal of every pos in syndicate. The Goons 0.0 dream is over. dbp Goonswarm's territory encompasses more than just SU. Therefore posting information on SU kills alone doesn't justify this conclusion. What if they were fighting you everywhere else? Goonfleet and Goonwaffe do indeed enjoy flying cheap frigs en masse. Unfortunately most of them are not here atm. I would hope that with their return your kill numbers will again soar. As it is from our point of view (those still permanently residing in the area) we have a relatively massive force of BoB in the area which we as a small / medium sized corporation cannot cope with alone. We are doing our best to pester and harass for the moment. Squads of Bob are picking off those others silly / unexperienced enough to try and engage. This is obviously a biased opinion and therefore should not be relied upon for a neutral point of view, although I believe it to be the truth. As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed.
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:16:00 - [107] People who genuinely don't care don't feel the need to tell other people that they don't care. Why? Because they don't care. Every time a Goon logs in to post "We don't care", they make the alliance as a whole look a little more insecure about itself. IMO.
Annu Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:17:00 - [108] Originally by: Deakin Frost Bumfukistan Thats not very nice, and could be deemed offensive to those persons living along the eastern side of that continet Asia.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:20:00 - [109] The Fear Kari Moltov As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Jacob Majestic ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:20:00 - [110] Edited by: Jacob Majestic on 04/08/2006 11:21:44 Originally by: DB Preacher As for profit from this war, everyday they make thousands, tens of thousands of isk in insurance? We make Billions of isk from our infrastructure. Everything is relative. dbp HAHHAHAHHAH I am so glad I woke up to this thread. Do you have to keep your *** in a harness so it doesn't drag on the ground when you walk? Originally by:** DB Preacher GoonSwarm Losses to BoB in S-U since we arrived. Assault Frigate= 2 Battlecruiser = 2 Battleship = 2 Bomber = 1 Capsule = 664 Covert Ops Frigate = 1 Cruiser = 15 Destroyer = 6 Frigate = 298 Heavy Assault Cruiser = 1 Industrial = 7 Interceptor = 5 Noobie Ship = 171 Shuttle = 273 Originally by: DB Preacher GoonSwarm Losses to BoB in S-U since we arrived. Capsule = 664 Frigate = 298 Noobie Ship = 171 Shuttle = 273 Originally by: DB Preacher Capsule = 664 Frigate = 298 Noobie Ship = 171 Shuttle = 273 I congratulate you on your crushing military victory. Remember to shop at ISS for ammo. By the way, if you want to stomp more sandcastles after you're done, I hear that ISS has been insubordinate as of late. You better go put them in line, seeing as how you run EVE. (Or is that SirMolle?) dbp
Herberge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:27:00 - [111] Originally by: DB Preacher The Fear Kari Moltov As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed. dbp Lawks a mercy. dbp
dorannl	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:30:00 - [112] ok can someone please mail the mods forgot there email. And someone please tell me what the punishment for killboard posting is. Im at work and bored and still i think its a waste of time to read this.
Irimi Nage Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:38:00 - [113] OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there. I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :( ---
Herberge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:44:00 - [114] Originally by: Irimi Nage OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there. I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :( It wouldn't matter whether you were there or not. dbp
Kaemper Gallente Itchy logistics	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:49:00 - [115] Originally by: dorannl ok can someone please mail the mods forgot there email. And someone please tell me what the punishment for killboard posting is. Im at work and bored and still i think its a waste of time to read this. QFT... b00b 80'ies soap episode 7069.. 'b00bie yet again looks in the mirror and goes.. look everyo1.. iiim soooh pueeetiiee!' .. yes u are.. hope the showel didnt hurt itself n sued u.. yawn has to be something better in here then this..
Kari Moltov Amarr The Forsakened Companions GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:51:00 - [116] Edited by: Kari Moltov on 04/08/2006 11:51:36 Originally by: DB Preacher The Fear Kari Moltov As an aside I think many of the POSes have already been taken down (although I'm not sure on this one) given that they have no impact on sovereignty here, and it would be a waste to have the majority destroyed. dbp I would agree with this post (as all of it is mine and you did indeed quote my name correctly) bar "The Fear". I think it makes good economical sense to remove POSes if you are one corporation (with our allies fighting elsewhere) with a few capital ships which knows that a large alliance with a / several fleets of capital ships are going to arrive and destroy them through force of arms. If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you? If we knew you could claim sovereignty off us and kick us out of our home I would indeed by somewhat fearful. As that is not the case I think we made a great business decision!
Herberge GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:54:00 - [117] Edited by: Herberge on 04/08/2006 11:54:15 Originally by: Kari Moltov If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you? Yeah, because you *fear* that ~~BoB~~ god is going to make your clothes smell of mildew.
Kari Moltov Amarr The Forsakened Companions GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 12:00:00 - [118] Originally by: Herberge Edited by: Herberge on 04/08/2006 11:54:15 Originally by: Kari Moltov If it's going to rain you don't leave your washing out now do you? Yeah, because you *fear* that ~~BoB~~ god is going to make your clothes smell of mildew. Well personally, and I hope most of my corp, don't fear that mine, or their, washing is going to get wet. You'd get annoyed that you didn't act sooner and rush out to get the washing in. or worest still, You get more annoyed that are you off having fun and resign yourself that when you get back they'll be soaked through or better still, You make sure you watch the weather report, notice a storm is coming and then get it in before you have to worry.
Twyce Nyetlee GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.04 12:07:00 - [119] Originally by: Irimi Nage OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there. I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :( Ahahaha the sig wasn't enough, you even had to name yourself Irimi Nage. That's so pathetic it's kind of cute.
Dagnis Dark-Rising	Posted - 2006.08.04 12:10:00 - [120] cant belive the amount of smack talk in this tread.......

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