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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 04/08/2006 12:12:25 (After my initial sleep-addled-and-now-edited-by-request "contributions" to the thread and early-morning infusion of caffeine to get those extra cylinders firing, I've decided to submit one last brain fart to the fray)
October 25, 1814:
The British enter an relatively unoccupied Washington, D.C. (BoB invading S-U in this case)
They enter the White House to find still warm food on the dining room table, which they graciously help themselves to. (BoB buying out S-U's market, presumably to paralyze supply)
They then loot everything of value (not much, we're humble folk) and burn the house (S-U) to its foundation. Then they sit back in rocking chairs, drinking tea and backslapping about how the war is won since the enemy capital has been routed (this thread). Keeping in mind, it's considered "dishonorable" by the "old school" of warfare at this time to continue to fight after your seat of power has been sieged.
The pillaging and siege of Washington DC was the only major "offensive" action the British successfully pulled off in the War of 1812. Everything after that was stalled, pushed back, or outright defeated.
Foretelling? Maybe. But it'll take about 6-12 months to see for sure. 6-12 months for a player with 10m SP is far more productive than 6-12 months for a player with 25-50m SP (I love how this game works).
Why am I saying things like this - things that really don't have a bearing on the thread at hand? Well, I'm a history major for one, so I have to make use of this useless knowledge *some*how, and I'm ultimately forced to agree with BoB on one thing - EvE does mimic real life in the sense of military history and moreso, military blunders.
Not everyone fights a "war" always on your terms, and not everyone has the same definition for "defeat."
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Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:24:00 -
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Pointless thread if I ever saw one...
BoB is pwning frigs in S-U... surprising-not GS claims it doesn't matter... surprising-not Lots of smack and chestbeating for both sides... surprising-not
Lock...? Yes please.
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Gericault m0id
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:34:00 -
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I don't like BoB or GS but at least I respected the former before I read this thread.
BoB, why bother with the killboard stats? Why argue the numbers? I've been pwned by you more times than I can count and that's more than enough to respect your alliance (respect, but dislike nevertheless). By lowering yourself to a killboard debate you lose a lot of credibility in my eyes.
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Daw Wo
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:41:00 -
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I don't know the two alliances history or happenings that well. But all I see here is Goons (noobs) making a name for them selfÆs and building to become something, yes they may loose a lot of cheap ships, but its noobs vs. older pvp'ers, what do you expect. They where part of BoB and stayed when BoB left to form there own alliance. Now one goon noob makes a mistake toward one BoB member. Goon takes action against that member, but this is not good enough for BoB and BoB attacks there former bothers. Lol, I only think this goes to show that BoB will turn on there own members like the way the backstabbed in Cloud Ring and now backstabbed Goons while goons where taking Cloud Ring that BoB could not do. I think BoB cannot be trusted, they petition for any small thing, poor gm's and a bad show in being a sport by BoB, and brag about killing noobs, anybody can do that...
While in the same topic, yes goons are good sports and will fight like a swarm of bees, but they need to punch members for bad mouthing other players. ItÆs only game and you will learn bad mouthing other players will only get you banned. ItÆs also not good sport.
Sorry if I upset some people, but thatÆs only my 2isks. Im not fighting for BoB and im not fighting for Goons that is just what I see, maybe im not the only one. |
Hellraiza666
Regeneration Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:47:00 -
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Well goons you can smack all you want, you cant ruin your reputation any more its so low.
BoBs objective is to destroy you, and they aint going stop till you disband whether you like it or not.
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localandbitter
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:48:00 -
[126]
Wow, what a toolshed.
All I have to say is, OT + SA ftw.
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Treylis
Gallente GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:49:00 -
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The joke's on BoB, we're actually making money on all those plat-insured shuttles.
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King Fury
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:50:00 -
[128]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/08/2006 10:35:59
Originally by: Kari Moltov My stats are correct if you only look at TFC as a corporation.
So you post your corporations kills versus our whole alliance and then complain when I post alliance versus alliance?
Sorry, doesn't work like that.
This is alliance versus alliance warfare, if you want to post individual corporations vs individual corporations by all means start a new thread.
If you want to leave GoonSwarm and not be part of them then you know where the button is.
dbp
Technically its 2 alliances vs 1 MC & BoB vs Goons, when you have finished whos next? Republic Military School?
Go Goons
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Hellraiza666
Regeneration Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:51:00 -
[129]
Originally by: King Fury
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/08/2006 10:35:59
Originally by: Kari Moltov My stats are correct if you only look at TFC as a corporation.
So you post your corporations kills versus our whole alliance and then complain when I post alliance versus alliance?
Sorry, doesn't work like that.
This is alliance versus alliance warfare, if you want to post individual corporations vs individual corporations by all means start a new thread.
If you want to leave GoonSwarm and not be part of them then you know where the button is.
dbp
Technically its 2 alliances vs 1 MC & BoB vs Goons, when you have finished whos next? Republic Military School?
Go Goons
POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:57:00 -
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They seriously didn't manage to destroy a single ship or pod? How exactly?
BoB explode just like everyone else fgs.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Treylis The joke's on BoB, we're actually making money on all those plat-insured shuttles.
I feel so low now and stupid
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
NZAmoeba
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Irimi Nage OHNOES!!!! someone will attack delve while I'm not there.
I knew I should have installed jump-clones and spare kickboxing girlfriends while I was there :(
Thanks for letting everyone in this thread know, twice, that you have a girlfriend. This was critical information and adds great weight to your posts.
We're all very proud of you.
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Ria Sotori
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 04/08/2006 12:17:12 (After my initial sleep-addled-and-now-edited-by-corp-request "contributions" to the thread and early-morning infusion of caffeine to get those extra cylinders firing, I've decided to submit one last brain fart to the fray)
October 25, 1814:
The British enter an relatively unoccupied Washington, D.C. (BoB invading S-U in this case)
To be honest its more like the US invasion of Panama and Noriega running to hide in a foriegn embassy in his underwear.
On behalf of solely myself, thank you for the practice at sissy undock / dock locking. I think my overall locking time has gone up by 2 seconds gear aside due to it.
less docky docky more shootie shootie k thx bye
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Herberge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard They seriously didn't manage to destroy a single ship or pod? How exactly?
In DBP's imagination, or possibly if you limit the statistics to exactly S-U (meaning not any other system in Eve, including other systems in the JQV constellation). It's seriously the lamest thing any member of BoB has ever posted.
dbp
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Algey
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:09:00 -
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BoB have pulled off a blinder here. They have aced the propaganda war, and utterly flattened the Goonies main isk generating area while they were busy fighting D2.
I actually expected BoB to hammer a weakened D2, but looking at alliance numbers they have probably made the right choice, since the Goons were growing to become far more of a threat to BoB than D2.
I think the main question has to be: Will this make the Goonies disband, or at least lose a large number of their personel? If it does this will have worked for BoB; however if it doesn't it will mean that in the future there will be a significantly more equal sp terms fight, with an enemy that now truly hates BoB.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Algey
I think the main question has to be: Will this make the Goonies disband, or at least lose a large number of their personel? If it does this will have worked for BoB; however if it doesn't it will mean that in the future there will be a significantly more equal sp terms fight, with an enemy that now truly hates BoB.
So...WIN WIN situation?
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
CaptainButts
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: CaptainButts on 04/08/2006 13:23:18
Originally by: Algey BoB have pulled off a blinder here. They have aced the propaganda war, and utterly flattened the Goonies main isk generating area while they were busy fighting D2.
I actually expected BoB to hammer a weakened D2, but looking at alliance numbers they have probably made the right choice, since the Goons were growing to become far more of a threat to BoB than D2.
I think the main question has to be: Will this make the Goonies disband, or at least lose a large number of their personel? If it does this will have worked for BoB; however if it doesn't it will mean that in the future there will be a significantly more equal sp terms fight, with an enemy that now truly hates BoB.
Just an educated guess, probably not.
As an aside this entire thread is really stupid. BoB are great PvP'ers, fine, everyone knows that, it's what they're famous for. They locked down S-U, fine, ok, great. They post a killcount thread with (edit: ok, more like 30-something if you count cruisers and indies) significant kills, well, ok, if you swing that way. Pretty pointless though. Idiotic smack is exchanged from both sides, well that's just EVE-O status quo in this forum I guess. ___________________________________________ if you think what a lil old bee like me posts is any official manifestation of corporate or director policies you're pretty dumb or something |
Ismern
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:26:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that this entire thread was flame bait from the beginning and should just be deleted.
Oh, and we don't care about BoB's ego waiving.
We'll be here.
Goodbye.
----------------------------------------------------------- The winners of EVE have spoken.
Let's all quit GoonSwarm and go to Empire while we still have some ISK left. |
Cosy
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:27:00 -
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after all this once again "the enemy of your enemy is your friend" is true and many ppl forget that
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Delthus
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Please do not post killboard links - Xorus
Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/08/2006 09:00:42
The Conclusion
GoonSwarm are afraid to engage us in thier own territory. Like so many before them they have gone on the offensive in another territory while we dismantle their homeland.
reguarding the above statement i know alot of instances where that wasn't true ;) and where BoB ended up running away after being engaged by a equal force then after being chased 20 odd jumps they finally turned around and fought which was nice but could have saved us the 20 odd jumps where they got killed by out fleet not with ASCN btw a idfferent alliance which doesn't exist anymore for internal reason it broke up
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tookar
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:58:00 -
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OK thats it im coming back to s-u to whup bob's ass! See you in a minute you desperate wannabes for Iraq ministry of propaganda .
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:04:00 -
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Couldnt be arsed reading the 5 pages of goons spamming some nonesense so i skipped them. Dpb's post only shows how incompetant GS is, they throw endles amounts of shuttles and noobie ships at us but talk big on the forums. You had a go at D2, showed you had some balls but they aparently got cut off seeing you cant even muster up a proper fleet to take us on. I always thought BoB had the biggest forum warriors but atleast we bring it ingame and nobody can deny that, GS on the other hand couldnt muster up any resistance what so ever. Makes me wonder if infact it was GS's allies against D2 that had the balls and GS were the cannon fodder. GS has not accomplished anything in this game but **** off the majority of the EvE comunity.
Just and fyi i wont be reading the spam fest were 30 goons keep blabbing nonesense so save it. Better yet how about you sum it all up in one post ... or would that mean someone actually needed to lead your sorry bunch of ....
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
PhannJodoxis
Minmatar H.Y.D.R.A.
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Jon Ominor
Originally by: Nira Li WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST*
Did it ever occur to you that we don't need your advice
Did it ever occur to you that you are crap?
Interesting. Where do you derive your self-worth? ..a computer game or something? That's what I thought.
BoB, all you did was attack an entity when it was in its worst position to in months to defend itself, succeed in your attack on SU (imagine that ), and then proceed to bash GS for not doing more to defend itself. This is why you're the masters of forum propoganda, you some how make out like this proves something.
Let's talk constructively here. BoB's strength as a fighting force is undeniable, it isnt as if you need to wait until people are weak to attack, yet it appears to be your modus operandi. Logically it allows you to not be entrenched in a real war, ensures domination, and thus limits your potential vulnerability while boosting your indominable image. The thing is, Im a reasonable person, and I hate the hypocrisy and lies. You are the one's calling for an exciting fight, but through your actions real fireworks are avoided.
This is the heart of the difference between playing the game for 'fun' and playing to 'win'. Obviously to win the game, as you stated is the goal, you need to control all regions. Therefore, let's say the region Querious would have had to of been a point of interest for some time, right? So for example, BoB could have attacked it while FIX was its powerful owner, the war could have had many fireworks, some FIX neighbors and others may have joined in due to their mutual dislike of BoB, more fireworks. We can all admit that that would be one crazy war, cant we? That was not the action pursued. BoB, you obviously have the right to choose your next move in this game, but please when it happens to be attacking someone when they are Down or weaker than even normal relative to you .. Dont Complain about Not Getting A Decent or Challenging Fight! This seems to be one of your main smacking points.. You are like a ripped martial artist walking up behind some regular athlete and hitting them in the back of the head with a bat. Then gloating over it by thumping your chest etc.. wtf!? It isnt like the ripped martial artist couldnt take the guy easily enough in a face to face fight. If you are going to hit them in the back of the head with the bat, then at least consider not thumping your chest, it's tasteless.
*the above does not reflect anyone's views but my own* I apologize in advance for trying to interject logic into this ego driven computer game. Still, posting this is more enjoyable than doing my actual work piling up infront of me. ______________________________________________
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Dracorimus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 04/08/2006 14:14:48
Originally by: Miss Overlord im surprised the goons havent hit the BOB low sec strangleholds and industrial hangouts and routes that being vehan to and up into the aridia region the syndicate region around ..... kfr-ze and twx-ei (the goons would see that bob travel thro there as well and its still south of d2 space up in outer ring)
common goons theres plenty of NPC stations in those sectors to go around so u know what to do pick up the swarm and head a) into aridia b) into the other part of synd c) away from su
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Thou Shalt Not Log-Off |
Azairen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: tookar OK thats it im coming back to s-u to whup bob's ass! See you in a minute you desperate wannabes for Iraq ministry of propaganda .
And so our answer to the MC reveals itself.
GIVE EM HELL TOOKAR!
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ProphetGuru
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: PhannJodoxis You are like a ripped martial artist walking up behind some regular athlete and hitting them in the back of the head with a bat.
Kickboxers don't need bats.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: PhannJodoxis
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Jon Ominor
Originally by: Nira Li WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!! *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST* *POST*
Did it ever occur to you that we don't need your advice
Did it ever occur to you that you are crap?
Interesting. Where do you derive your self-worth? ..a computer game or something? That's what I thought.
BoB, all you did was attack an entity when it was in its worst position to in months to defend itself, succeed in your attack on SU (imagine that ), and then proceed to bash GS for not doing more to defend itself. This is why you're the masters of forum propoganda, you some how make out like this proves something.
Let's talk constructively here. BoB's strength as a fighting force is undeniable, it isnt as if you need to wait until people are weak to attack, yet it appears to be your modus operandi. Logically it allows you to not be entrenched in a real war, ensures domination, and thus limits your potential vulnerability while boosting your indominable image. The thing is, Im a reasonable person, and I hate the hypocrisy and lies. You are the one's calling for an exciting fight, but through your actions real fireworks are avoided.
This is the heart of the difference between playing the game for 'fun' and playing to 'win'. Obviously to win the game, as you stated is the goal, you need to control all regions. Therefore, let's say the region Querious would have had to of been a point of interest for some time, right? So for example, BoB could have attacked it while FIX was its powerful owner, the war could have had many fireworks, some FIX neighbors and others may have joined in due to their mutual dislike of BoB, more fireworks. We can all admit that that would be one crazy war, cant we? That was not the action pursued. BoB, you obviously have the right to choose your next move in this game, but please when it happens to be attacking someone when they are Down or weaker than even normal relative to you .. Dont Complain about Not Getting A Decent or Challenging Fight! This seems to be one of your main smacking points.. You are like a ripped martial artist walking up behind some regular athlete and hitting them in the back of the head with a bat. Then gloating over it by thumping your chest etc.. wtf!? It isnt like the ripped martial artist couldnt take the guy easily enough in a face to face fight. If you are going to hit them in the back of the head with the bat, then at least consider not thumping your chest, it's tasteless.
*the above does not reflect anyone's views but my own* I apologize in advance for trying to interject logic into this ego driven computer game. Still, posting this is more enjoyable than doing my actual work piling up infront of me.
Good post.
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Native Edited by: Native on 04/08/2006 13:17:51
Originally by: welsh wizard They seriously didn't manage to destroy a single ship or pod? How exactly?
BoB explode just like everyone else fgs.
If you look at kills/losses between 6:38 and 7:38 in the Orvolle system on 8/4 you will see:
BoB Losses: 1 Hac 1 Battleship
GS Losses: 3 frigates
See what I did there? Anyone can spin data to make themselves look invincible.
Spin this!
As of 4/8/06 17.04,
GoonSwarm kills - 73 GoonSwarm losses - 2385
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |
Herberge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Spin this!
As of 4/8/06 17.04,
GoonSwarm kills - 73 GoonSwarm losses - 2385
Holy crap, 73? I would have thought maybe a dozen.
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Treylis
Gallente GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Spin this!
As of 4/8/06 17.04,
GoonSwarm kills - 73 GoonSwarm losses - 2385
No need to spin, in fact, I agree completely and so I'm quoting your post.
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