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Jandeera Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.05 19:54:00 - [1] Lynx frontier is setting FLA/IRON to -10 for various reasons. FLA standings change is due primarily for recent acts of open hostilities towards our members resulting in ship losses. Lynx had set FLA corporations standings to + while working through residency issues in deklien. The unwillingness to honor the positive standings has left us little choice in our decision. IRON is being set -10 due to the fact that they have set lynx to -10. We have not changed any standings towards any other dek/fade residents or d2. Our stance of aggression is towards FLA. Those who wish to change there standings to Lynx please contact Jandeera or Van Guard via evemail or personal convo. http://eve.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=Jandeera I have issues. I dont deny them.
splattercat F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:28:00 - [2] Stop helping known Pirates in the area and camping with them then if you dont want other local corps to set -10.. Simple logic realy
Sypher313 VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:33:00 - [3] noted. rgr you're RED to CORE. have fun xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Zlake Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:34:00 - [4] I am pretty sure that we already are.
Kitana Lee	Posted - 2006.08.05 22:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Kitana Lee on 05/08/2006 22:42:04 opps
KateLice	Posted - 2006.08.05 22:47:00 - [6] oh boy ok and signed
Shinoobie E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:38:00 - [7] Edited by: Shinoobie on 05/08/2006 23:39:04 Originally by: Jandeera We have not changed any standings towards any other dek/fade residents or d2. At the time you post this your sig shows your last kill... Stealth 0 rz of DSL on the 05/08/2006 @ 04:02:00 the date of your statement is 05/08/2006 19:54:00. I then quote the post as above.... How do you explain that? DSL are a Dek resident, so as you say you have chnaged no standings to anyone else in Dek I can only deduce that you already had them on -10. FLA and IRON and maybe D2 cannot have you going around killing Dek residents willy nilly. Now maybe you know why you were set -10 and fired upon. Simple really, the answers were all in your OP. EDIT : Apparently the word (h 0 r) is censored so had to space out the DSL guys name. Elite Scouting
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Jandeera We have not changed any standings towards any other dek/fade residents or d2. Our stance of aggression is towards FLA. But we have changed standings, welcome on the RED side of live Lynx. ________ Asgar[D]¦
Jandeera Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.06 01:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: Jandeera We have not changed any standings towards any other dek/fade residents or d2. Our stance of aggression is towards FLA. But we have changed standings, welcome on the RED side of live Lynx. So it takes 3 weeks to get production right wich was part of the agreement for residency but only takes 2 hours to remove station right.. Thanks d2 for such prompt attention. I have issues. I dont deny them.
RaYmEn Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.06 07:34:00 - [10] Thanks for all the lyings in our convos. ...
BurnYaBad Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.06 08:41:00 - [11]
Shinoobie E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.06 08:59:00 - [12] Originally by: BurnYaBad ..... I agree totaly. Nice to see LYNX lost for words after their pirating campaign has been brought to an ubrupt end. Elite Scouting
DANGEROUS Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.06 17:58:00 - [13] i am TERRIBLY saddened to see that this has happened. May i remind u all that when IRON NEEDED lynx they were there. More willing than u can imagine. They mined for IRON for months. They are a realtively new corp to 0.0 and may well need some helpful GUIDANCE from the inner core of people in and around dek. DO NOT FORGET what they have done for you in the past. Shin - - please try and sort something for these guys, deal with katelice. If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs.
KateLice	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:52:00 - [14] OK-- Look at it from OUR point of view. We wanted to stay in Northern Deklein. We put a lot of time and isk into the north. We did what we could, whether it was fighting in the best ships we had, or running fuel and ammo into and through a gate camp on purpose to keep the fight up. We were told we could keep our offices in Northern Dek and then... "2006.07.27 01:51 Your lease on an office at D2 Deklein CZD Art of War Factory will expire on 2006.08.26 01:22:00. You have 30 days to vacate the location. If the location is not empty after that period then your belongings there will be taken as payment." "2006.07.30 16:13 Your lease on an office at D2 Deklein UEJX Mostly Harmless Refinery will expire on 2006.08.29 16:10:00. You have 30 days to vacate the location. If the location is not empty after that period then your belongings there will be taken as payment." This occurred all within hours of being told we could keep our offices. We had to convo people to first dock and then get manufacturing rights, only to have them taken away the next day. We have sent Eve-mails asking what is going on, which have been unanswered for 3 weeks now. What are we supposed to think? A lot of the LYNX membership, who have given alot, get the cold sholder and now have decided to respond the only way they know how. At least now, people know we are still here. I know that we lost the war to D2 and that D2 had every right to kick us out. I also know that alliances take forever to decide anything, but a mail explaining what was going on and why they were saying one thing and doing another would have been nice, even if it was telling us they hadn't made up their minds yet. Remember, the old IRON and G set the bar for us. We've been striving to achieve that goal ever since. In a way, you trained us. We were a major part of the industrial backend and now we're set negative. To our friends left in the north, I'm sure we will maintain strong friendships, even though the overview tells us otherwise. KateLice
KateLice	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Shinoobie Edited by: Shinoobie on 06/08/2006 09:20:02 Originally by: BurnYaBad ..... I agree totaly. Nice to see LYNX lost for words after their pirating campaign has been brought to an ubrupt end. Oh and don't forget who originally set D2 to -10 way back when, I'm sure D2 have every right to take their time (or not as the case may be) over actions that they take against you. It's not that we're lost for words. Lynx has never been hyper-active on the forums. Our main policy is not to feed the trolls, and we only post when we feel it is truly necessary.
Jandeera Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.06 20:47:00 - [16] Originally by: DANGEROUS If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs. I truly wish the leaders of the north thought the same way as you dangerous. /respect I have issues. I dont deny them.
Player One Minmatar Die wilde 13	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Jandeera Originally by: DANGEROUS If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs. I truly wish the leaders of the north thought the same way as you dangerous. /respect problem is... "dont care" 1st rule d2 diplomacy
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:06:00 - [18] Originally by: KateLice OK-- Look at it from OUR point of view. We wanted to stay in Northern Deklein. We put a lot of time and isk into the north. We did what we could, whether it was fighting in the best ships we had, or running fuel and ammo into and through a gate camp on purpose to keep the fight up. We were told we could keep our offices in Northern Dek and then... "2006.07.27 01:51 Your lease on an office at D2 Deklein CZD Art of War Factory will expire on 2006.08.26 01:22:00. You have 30 days to vacate the location. If the location is not empty after that period then your belongings there will be taken as payment." "2006.07.30 16:13 Your lease on an office at D2 Deklein UEJX Mostly Harmless Refinery will expire on 2006.08.29 16:10:00. You have 30 days to vacate the location. If the location is not empty after that period then your belongings there will be taken as payment." This occurred all within hours of being told we could keep our offices. We had to convo people to first dock and then get manufacturing rights, only to have them taken away the next day. We have sent Eve-mails asking what is going on, which have been unanswered for 3 weeks now. What are we supposed to think? A lot of the LYNX membership, who have given alot, get the cold sholder and now have decided to respond the only way they know how. At least now, people know we are still here. I know that we lost the war to D2 and that D2 had every right to kick us out. I also know that alliances take forever to decide anything, but a mail explaining what was going on and why they were saying one thing and doing another would have been nice, even if it was telling us they hadn't made up their minds yet. Remember, the old IRON and G set the bar for us. We've been striving to achieve that goal ever since. In a way, you trained us. We were a major part of the industrial backend and now we're set negative. To our friends left in the north, I'm sure we will maintain strong friendships, even though the overview tells us otherwise. KateLice Uhh Kate, it's not like you were alone in this. We had the exact same problem in CZDJ/UEJX for a time. There's no grand conspiracy against Lynx, D2's just kind of slow at this. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Francis Verdictio BGG Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:14:00 - [19] Aannd, according to your OP, your hostility is towards FLA, not D2. And now you accuse D2 of shutting down your offices, this being the primary reason for you to declare war again. ...What's your beef with FLA now? Did we kill someone of yours? Who? Where? When? Oh well, was nice knowing you. I always considered your corp name cool, but apparently even a good name doesn't pre-empt bad decisions.
Midiana Eternal Rising Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 21:39:00 - [20] I'd like to add whilst I respect the comment from a Fate member above about Lynx and indeed all the collegaues and aquaintances around in the north, I would like to point out FLA have tried to be as helpful as possible to residents of dek that have been displaced or disrupted due to the wars up here. Its only a handful of people that had no interest in trying to work something from the ashes, didn't want to deal with FLA, or were just down right unreasonable that are suffering issues. More reds ftw in my opinion a blue overview is a boring one, but don't whinge about unfair treatment when you started the shooting. Lynx are not that new to 0.0 and nowhere do I see anything that states you must have X amount of 0.0 experiance to know not to gank members of the alliance your supposed to be discussing standings with WHILE your discussing standings. Doesn't go down well.
GuruJ Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.06 22:25:00 - [21] We decided on a different position on which to start diplomacy since the other wasn't working. Peace "Fancy ships, big guns, and expensive things; what about your soul does it Bling Bling?"
KateLice	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Francis Verdictio Aannd, according to your OP, your hostility is towards FLA, not D2. And now you accuse D2 of shutting down your offices, this being the primary reason for you to declare war again. ...What's your beef with FLA now? Did we kill someone of yours? Who? Where? When? Oh well, was nice knowing you. I always considered your corp name cool, but apparently even a good name doesn't pre-empt bad decisions. sorry dont get the OP and my responce to D2 saying we lied to them mixed up the Op has to do with FLA seting us - cause " our time on the nap we had expired" were told we could stay and yet we were agressed wile moveing tho FLA space from upper dek to empire
Heero Yuy Minmatar Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:49:00 - [23] 1. You were set to neutral on expiry of the NAP, as per agreement. Following aggression you were set to negative. Pretty standard really. 2. You're regularly camping out with pirates and yet you're surprised you turn red? Honestly.
Asfa GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:04:00 - [24] Imagine, trouble in Deklein caused by FLA. Tell me it ain't so!
Shinoobie E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:39:00 - [25] Originally by: DANGEROUS i am TERRIBLY saddened to see that this has happened. May i remind u all that when IRON NEEDED lynx they were there. More willing than u can imagine. They mined for IRON for months. They are a realtively new corp to 0.0 and may well need some helpful GUIDANCE from the inner core of people in and around dek. DO NOT FORGET what they have done for you in the past. Shin - - please try and sort something for these guys, deal with katelice. If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs. Dangerous, I will not accept Lynx flying with a known pirate corp in Deklein, heading south to VFK and JU and firing upon Dek residents and IRON members alike. It is not my responsibility to sort this out. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but there are larger things afoot in the North presently, and Lynx frontier is currently not a top priority of mine. However, if Kate is willing to contact me then I of course will make the time. I know there are two sides to every story and I am never one to ignore that fact. Elite Scouting
FotoFlame E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:40:00 - [26] Edited by: FotoFlame on 07/08/2006 08:40:12 Originally by: DANGEROUS They are a realtively new corp to 0.0 and may well need some helpful GUIDANCE from the inner core of people in and around dek. DO NOT FORGET what they have done for you in the past. Shin - - please try and sort something for these guys, deal with katelice. If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs. Dangerous, seeming as you havenÆt been in EVE for the last few months IÆll presume youÆre not aware of how the war with Lynx/Sparta even started. If you were then youÆd realise how that statement of yours makes absolutely no sense whatsoever other than proving your lack of understanding for the current situation in Dek. This being the same Lynx that hired X13 on themselves to make IRON/FLA look bad and the same KateLice that was offered peace but decided to nap Goonswarm and forcefully take VFK and JU stations instead; So yes weÆve not forgotten what they have done for us in the past and IÆll thankyou to not lecture me on how I set standings. To date IRON continues to live up to its word and upholds positive standings with all Ex-NFC/Ex-Sparta corps that have ceased hostilities against the north. In LynxÆs case, we were uncharacteristically lenient with them and yet they still managed to blow it. Whatever happens next is their doing and IÆll not waste any more of my time on the matter. ~Foto
DANGEROUS Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 10:53:00 - [27] Originally by: FotoFlame Edited by: FotoFlame on 07/08/2006 10:08:45 Originally by: DANGEROUS They are a realtively new corp to 0.0 and may well need some helpful GUIDANCE from the inner core of people in and around dek. DO NOT FORGET what they have done for you in the past. Shin - - please try and sort something for these guys, deal with katelice. If we forget the smaller corps who help us when we REALLY need it then what does the future hold for us ffs. Dangerous, seeming as you havenÆt been in EVE for the last few months IÆll presume youÆre not aware of how the war with Lynx/Sparta even started. If you were then youÆd realise how that statement of yours makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and only demonstrates your lack of understanding for the situation. This being the same Lynx that hired X13 on themselves to make IRON/FLA look bad and the same KateLice that was offered peace but decided to nap Goonswarm and forcefully claim the VFK and JU stations instead; So yes weÆve not forgotten what they have done for us in the past and IÆll thankyou to not lecture me on how I set standings. To date IRON continues to live up to its word and upholds positive standings with all Ex-NFC/Ex-Sparta corps that have ceased hostilities against the north. In LynxÆs case, we were uncharacteristically lenient with them and yet they still managed to blow it. Whatever happens next is their doing and IÆll not waste any more of my time on the matter. ~Foto Hands up, i know i am not up to date. i wasnt aware of more recent events clearly. I am not attempting to in anyway be involved in iron standings. i was just saying truthfully that when i was were i was they were our lifeblood. Please take no offense at my commetns either of u. Looking forward to a continuing patching up of our personal relations Dangerous
Mar Drakar Gallente LDK	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:03:00 - [28] what can I say... welcome to the red club of the north :) there are several corps running around dek for quite a while and really having fun, and trust me docking rights are not THAT necesary to live in 0.0 anyway deklein is so deserted these days... you can live and spank whoever you want, and there is noone to stop ya, that is until you hit carearing carrier, but one day those gonna fall too :) IRON and FLA will burn for a long time for what they did. LDK might not be big, but we surely do our best to bite you for good. -- Make your life worth dying. CEO L.D.K.
Shinoobie E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Mar Drakar what can I say... welcome to the red club of the north :) there are several corps running around dek for quite a while and really having fun, and trust me docking rights are not THAT necesary to live in 0.0 anyway deklein is so deserted these days... you can live and spank whoever you want, and there is noone to stop ya, that is until you hit carearing carrier, but one day those gonna fall too :) IRON and FLA will burn for a long time for what they did. LDK might not be big, but we surely do our best to bite you for good. Great fun aint it :) That's what we found down south. At present though IRON is away fighting the bigger boys, we'll see you lot soon tho :) Elite Scouting
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:21:00 - [30] Nothing beats living in a target-rich environment Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Terapie Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 16:03:00 - [31] I don`t usualy post but...oh well. Lemme try shed some light into this whole story... Intel channel: Lynx killed 1 FLA zealot and have been seen flying around with some pirate corp trying to kill people in fade/deklein. Their response on intel channels: We only shoot FLA,we don`t fly with Hydra(the pirate corp)...i try to gather intel from different people and maybe some evidence,i get 2 screenshots of LYNX flying with hydra,mmmmmkaaay...1 h later Lynx say: oh Hydra are killing FLA we`re ok with that,then confirming they fly with Hydra. 30 mins later lynx say: oh...we`re shooting FLA and IRON but we don`t have anything with other friendly corps and stuff (wtf?!) the word UNITY comes into my mind now,we had alot of issues up north in the last months,let`s look at the facts: FLA fights NFC (LYNX is in NFC)... war ends,sparta betrayed D2 helping GOONS (LYNX is in sparta) Someone will allways try to creat havoc and chaos,it`s a good way to destroy the integrity of a big alliance of ppl that try to have a fruitfull "life" (alliance as in multiple alliances/corporations) The fact is: LYNX were feeling left aside (tbh i dunno why they even were allowed to remain up here) so instead of trying to talk it out or just leave...they go killing people,it`s just wrong and they made everyone in the north hate them in one way or another (backstabbing anyone?) Have a problem? Talk it out,don`t force your way in! See you on the battlefield. Cheers My opinions represent myself only,not my corporation or alliance.
Ras Blumin 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.07 16:41:00 - [32] Originally by: FotoFlame This being the same Lynx that hired X13 on themselves to make IRON/FLA look bad I doubt that was the case tbh. Afaik x13 haven't done contracts since the last x13 vs ASCN war (about 3-4 months or so ago).
KateLice	Posted - 2006.08.07 17:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Heero Yuy 1. You were set to neutral on expiry of the NAP, as per agreement. Following aggression you were set to negative. Pretty standard really. 2. You're regularly camping out with pirates and yet you're surprised you turn red? Honestly. getting set neutral and getting set -10 is a diffent way of saying the same thing ether way you get shot at . you ether belong or don't belong this far in to 0.0 as to the D2 post above every one els who coame up were not haveing problems getting station access yet ours were taken away you say talk about it or leave we tryed to talk to the D2 dipomat wall for 3 weeks and gont not so much as a peep back so its leave or .... leave since you cant really live in 0.0 with out stations or POS's This sadends me alot this will be my last post on this Topic , this Post has served its purpose and there is noting left to do but troll and flame
Terapie Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:01:00 - [34] Originally by: KateLice talk about it or leave we tried to talk to the D2 diplomat wall for 3 weeks and got not so much as a peep back so its leave or .... leave since you cant really live in 0.0 with out stations or POS's Means leave without allying with pirates,shooting your former friends and so on...like pack bags and leave My opinions represent myself only,not my corporation or alliance.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:51:00 - [35] This was quite a shock when it went down. FREEE and Lynx lived together in CZD and UEJX for some time while we were members of IRON. We had few other corps around up there at the time. Aus Corp was around, and a few more resident corps. Lynx was a great team player and always up for defense or helping IRON out with our cap ship needs at the time by helping to strip belts. Right now the region is far from stable, civil war has made everyone question who their friends are, and everyone is suspicious of everyone else. The last thing a resident corp should have been doing was flying with a hostile alliance. I get that Lynx had a beef with FLA. I get that Lynx had station access issues with the D2 stations in Dek. That all could have been worked out. What I don't get is Lynx throwing the people that let them stay, as a defeated foe, in the region they were fighting over, under the bus. You were in a defeated alliance. The victors had every right to toss you out. They let you stay and instead of working out a couple minor issues you start ganking residents and flying with goonswarm members. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Zlake Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.07 22:01:00 - [36] I knew Zimi couldn't just post once in this thread. Was just a matter of time. I bow to your forum skills and as always you are right and we are all wrong. Just poking a bit of fun Zimi. You guys were all fun to fly with. From my days in IRON, then Sparta and finally with Lynx. Hope you guys get things fixed in the north......but not to soon. Z
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.07 22:12:00 - [37] Sometimes I have far too much free time :( Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
DANGEROUS Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.08 08:31:00 - [38] Originally by: Terapie I don`t usualy post but...oh well. Lemme try shed some light into this whole story... Intel channel: Lynx killed 1 FLA zealot and have been seen flying around with some pirate corp trying to kill people in fade/deklein. Their response on intel channels: We only shoot FLA,we don`t fly with Hydra(the pirate corp)...i try to gather intel from different people and maybe some evidence,i get 2 screenshots of LYNX flying with hydra,mmmmmkaaay...1 h later Lynx say: oh Hydra are killing FLA we`re ok with that,then confirming they fly with Hydra. 30 mins later lynx say: oh...we`re shooting FLA and IRON but we don`t have anything with other friendly corps and stuff (wtf?!) the word UNITY comes into my mind now,we had alot of issues up north in the last months,let`s look at the facts: FLA fights NFC (LYNX is in NFC)... war ends,sparta betrayed D2 helping GOONS (LYNX is in sparta) Someone will allways try to creat havoc and chaos,it`s a good way to destroy the integrity of a big alliance of ppl that try to have a fruitfull "life" (alliance as in multiple alliances/corporations) The fact is: LYNX were feeling left aside (tbh i dunno why they even were allowed to remain up here) so instead of trying to talk it out or just leave...they go killing people,it`s just wrong and they made everyone in the north hate them in one way or another (backstabbing anyone?) Have a problem? Talk it out,don`t force your way in! See you on the battlefield. Cheers HMMMM seems ALOT has changed since i last had contact with Lynxx. KateLice seems that for one reason or another be it an unlucky streak i dont know, but u seem to hve been backing the wrong horse for some time. I withdraw from this debate.
Lemmy Adam	Posted - 2006.08.08 10:37:00 - [39] Edited by: Lemmy Adam on 08/08/2006 10:39:59 wait, you say we were allowed to stay and then denied station access and thats something we need to work out? that's almost like someone saying "oh yeah those FLA boneheads, they're just a bit touched in the head, just ignore it when they blow up your ships" (AND YES YOU DID FIRE FIRST, nap expired.. indeed.. us too :)) anyway the bottom line is that the aforementioned quote sounds more like "well FLA is a northern alliance and since you're not part of a northern alliance, just shut up and deal with it" well same to you. you guys act like the north is so precious, and you guys have done nothing wrong FLA AND IRON STARTED THE DESTABILIZATION IN THE NORTH D2 DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO ENCOURAGE THIS you guys don't own all the 0.0 space in the game, and backstabbing? don't really see us as the backstabbers when FLA shot first due to "nap expiration"? since this is just a flame, you Freeloading Lowlife Amatuers should be licking my boots etc. etc <insert witty flames here> <insert sig> p.s. I almost forgot the red side of life? enjoying it well, check battleclinic, hope you enjoy losing ships as much as we enjoy destroying them (wink @ MIA GREASY)
Anille Kole Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.08 12:07:00 - [40] Originally by: Lemmy Adam Edited by: Lemmy Adam on 08/08/2006 10:39:59 wait, you say we were allowed to stay and then denied station access and thats something we need to work out? that's almost like someone saying "oh yeah those FLA boneheads, they're just a bit touched in the head, just ignore it when they blow up your ships" (AND YES YOU DID FIRE FIRST, nap expired.. indeed.. us too :)) anyway the bottom line is that the aforementioned quote sounds more like "well FLA is a northern alliance and since you're not part of a northern alliance, just shut up and deal with it" well same to you. you guys act like the north is so precious, and you guys have done nothing wrong FLA AND IRON STARTED THE DESTABILIZATION IN THE NORTH D2 DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO ENCOURAGE THIS you guys don't own all the 0.0 space in the game, and backstabbing? don't really see us as the backstabbers when FLA shot first due to "nap expiration"? since this is just a flame, you Freeloading Lowlife Amatuers should be licking my boots etc. etc <insert witty flames here> <insert sig> p.s. I almost forgot the red side of life? enjoying it well, check battleclinic, hope you enjoy losing ships as much as we enjoy destroying them (wink @ MIA GREASY) I may be jumping into a situation I'm not knowledgeable about.... but the person in the wrong here is pretty obvious. Lynx, why are you declaring on FLA for not being able to dock in D2 stations? Why are you flying with a pirate corp? (That killmail of Mia Greasy is pretty good proof, since half the involved parties were HYDRA, and I'd imagine that pirate alliances don't happen instantaneously.) In fact, why are you declaring that "FLA broke the NAP!", when it's been shown that you've been killing all kinds of pilots in the region? Your members are actively pirating in the region, but you're trying to be the honorable ones in this disagreement? Originally by: Midiana Lynx are not that new to 0.0 and nowhere do I see anything that states you must have X amount of 0.0 experiance to know not to gank members of the alliance your supposed to be discussing standings with WHILE your discussing standings. I'm guessing this could also be a reason for hostility.... I'd try to debunk the entirety of your post, but the combined effects of horrific grammar and the fact that it's been discussed like a gazillion times convinced me to leave it for someone else to answer. ________________________________ Lovable alt. <3
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.08 22:26:00 - [41] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: FotoFlame This being the same Lynx that hired X13 on themselves to make IRON/FLA look bad I doubt that was the case tbh. Afaik x13 haven't done contracts since the last x13 vs ASCN war (about 3-4 months or so ago). Wrong. They made a forum post and everything. Anyhow, Lynx has of course been set to negative, and we look forward to removing you. Having targets right at home really helps motivate the troops, and they have been slacking off pretty badly since Sparta imploded. See you in space.
Lemmy Adam	Posted - 2006.08.08 22:58:00 - [42] Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam Edited by: Lemmy Adam on 08/08/2006 10:39:59 wait, you say we were allowed to stay and then denied station access and thats something we need to work out? that's almost like someone saying "oh yeah those FLA boneheads, they're just a bit touched in the head, just ignore it when they blow up your ships" (AND YES YOU DID FIRE FIRST, nap expired.. indeed.. us too :)) anyway the bottom line is that the aforementioned quote sounds more like "well FLA is a northern alliance and since you're not part of a northern alliance, just shut up and deal with it" well same to you. you guys act like the north is so precious, and you guys have done nothing wrong FLA AND IRON STARTED THE DESTABILIZATION IN THE NORTH D2 DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO ENCOURAGE THIS you guys don't own all the 0.0 space in the game, and backstabbing? don't really see us as the backstabbers when FLA shot first due to "nap expiration"? since this is just a flame, you Freeloading Lowlife Amatuers should be licking my boots etc. etc <insert witty flames here> <insert sig> p.s. I almost forgot the red side of life? enjoying it well, check battleclinic, hope you enjoy losing ships as much as we enjoy destroying them (wink @ MIA GREASY) I may be jumping into a situation I'm not knowledgeable about.... but the person in the wrong here is pretty obvious. Lynx, why are you declaring on FLA for not being able to dock in D2 stations? Why are you flying with a pirate corp? (That killmail of Mia Greasy is pretty good proof, since half the involved parties were HYDRA, and I'd imagine that pirate alliances don't happen instantaneously.) In fact, why are you declaring that "FLA broke the NAP!", when it's been shown that you've been killing all kinds of pilots in the region? Your members are actively pirating in the region, but you're trying to be the honorable ones in this disagreement? Originally by: Midiana Lynx are not that new to 0.0 and nowhere do I see anything that states you must have X amount of 0.0 experiance to know not to gank members of the alliance your supposed to be discussing standings with WHILE your discussing standings. I'm guessing this could also be a reason for hostility.... I'd try to debunk the entirety of your post, but the combined effects of horrific grammar and the fact that it's been discussed like a gazillion times convinced me to leave it for someone else to answer. Anille Kole Gallente University of Caille who are you anyway? what do you know? a big lot of nothing that's what. I'll try to say it real slow for the Freeloading Lowlife Amateurs firing on FLA has very little to do with our failed negotiation with d2. FLA fired on our ships first, claiming their nap with us had expired. during this time d2 had ignored us, to the point of double-talk and foolhardy decision making, not to mention the inability to reply and the impotance of it's diplomats. these are reasons the negotiations with d2 broke down. NOT THE FLA INCIDENT however, the FLA incident was a factor in going to kill FLA, we did not fly with HYDRA until ALL of the north set us negative for DEFENDING ourselves and seeking a certain amount of VINDICATION. you say we've been killing all kinds of pilots in the region. what are we to do while we are being killed by them? say thank you may I have another? my grammar may be a little off but at least my head isn't where the sun don't shine. WE ARE THE MINERS SCORNED. (btw, if your scaners pick up a big long rigid projectile turret in your aft. that's me)
GuruJ Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.08 23:06:00 - [43] Yarrrrr! "Fancy ships, big guns, and expensive things; what about your soul does it Bling Bling?"
Anille Kole Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.09 02:48:00 - [44] Originally by: Lemmy Adam Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam .... ... Originally by: Midiana ... ... ... Oh, Lemmy Adam, of...nothing? I'm guessing that you're more likely to be deleted as an "alt" than my account will be, since it's a requirement to include your corp/alliance information. My views are those of an outsider. I'm looking into this without bias. However, you are acting arrogant in response to me disagreeing with you; not the best way to get people on your side, to be honest. If you really need links on how your corp has been pirating NON-FLA/IRON in the area, have a look here. Odd, isn't it? A single player, in a corp that isn't in an alliance. How likely is it that they'd be attacking a group of neutrals? Oh, wait, that's right, you're pirates. I'm sure I could find more if I looked, even considering that BattleClinic doesn't have most killmails. If FLA fired on you because your NAP expired, that's ok. They had a reason, and they were enforcing their own rules. However, does this justify you backstabbing a member after approaching them in space under the guise of working out a solution? Of course not, and I'm appalled that you STILL are trying to take the high road. If you must know, however, after a few minutes of searching through the killmails on BattleClinic, not only is your corp's first loss several hours AFTER you started this thread, but you started ganking non-FLA corps nearly a full day before you started this, along with several FLA members. Besides, why would the entire north instantly -10 you if you haven't been pirating? They'd set you to 0 at worst, unless you did something to ** them off, like, say....shoot at them? Originally by:** Lemmy Adam (btw, if your scaners pick up a big long rigid projectile turret in your aft. that's me) I don't think it's possible to get scanners strong enough to find something that small. ________________________________ Lovable alt. <3
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.09 03:02:00 - [45] Correction: You were set to -10 to the entire North only after being seen flying with Hydra. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Kibito x13	Posted - 2006.08.09 06:13:00 - [46] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: FotoFlame This being the same Lynx that hired X13 on themselves to make IRON/FLA look bad I doubt that was the case tbh. Afaik x13 haven't done contracts since the last x13 vs ASCN war (about 3-4 months or so ago). Wrong. They made a forum post and everything. Anyhow, Lynx has of course been set to negative, and we look forward to removing you. Having targets right at home really helps motivate the troops, and they have been slacking off pretty badly since Sparta imploded. See you in space. What forum post? why do people still belive we got hired? we dident.. it was only for fun
Mar Drakar Gallente LDK	Posted - 2006.08.09 07:22:00 - [47] Edited by: Mar Drakar on 09/08/2006 07:22:40 Originally by: Anille Kole ... My views are those of an outsider. ... so backstab my rear part of the ship... since every act of just in the dek is justified by earlier backstabs that have taken place... oh and since dek is infested with "pirates" be sure to move freights with more than two frig escort... nice job Beagle , wink wink rzr typos ftl... -- Make your life worth dying. CEO L.D.K.
Lemmy Adam Caldari Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.09 10:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam .... ... Originally by: Midiana ... ... ... Oh, Lemmy Adam, of...nothing? I'm guessing that you're more likely to be deleted as an "alt" than my account will be, since it's a requirement to include your corp/alliance information. My views are those of an outsider. I'm looking into this without bias. However, you are acting arrogant in response to me disagreeing with you; not the best way to get people on your side, to be honest. If you really need links on how your corp has been pirating NON-FLA/IRON in the area, have a look here. Odd, isn't it? A single player, in a corp that isn't in an alliance. How likely is it that they'd be attacking a group of neutrals? Oh, wait, that's right, you're pirates. I'm sure I could find more if I looked, even considering that BattleClinic doesn't have most killmails. If FLA fired on you because your NAP expired, that's ok. They had a reason, and they were enforcing their own rules. However, does this justify you backstabbing a member after approaching them in space under the guise of working out a solution? Of course not, and I'm appalled that you STILL are trying to take the high road. If you must know, however, after a few minutes of searching through the killmails on BattleClinic, not only is your corp's first loss several hours AFTER you started this thread, but you started ganking non-FLA corps nearly a full day before you started this, along with several FLA members. Besides, why would the entire north instantly -10 you if you haven't been pirating? They'd set you to 0 at worst, unless you did something to ** them off, like, say....shoot at them? Originally by:** Lemmy Adam (btw, if your scaners pick up a big long rigid projectile turret in your aft. that's me) I don't think it's possible to get scanners strong enough to find something that small. umm.. you suck? oh and you all wouldn't complain if we weren't causing distress, so keep eating your losses.. another thing battleclinic shows is 1.5bil in enemy losses to our 400mil in losses.. do the math.. I'm not taking the high road and we're not pirates.. we just don't like you.
Varban II Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:25:00 - [49] Originally by: Mar Drakar what can I say... welcome to the red club of the north :) there are several corps running around dek for quite a while and really having fun, and trust me docking rights are not THAT necesary to live in 0.0 anyway deklein is so deserted these days... you can live and spank whoever you want, and there is noone to stop ya, that is until you hit carearing carrier, but one day those gonna fall too :) IRON and FLA will burn for a long time for what they did. LDK might not be big, but we surely do our best to bite you for good. That means you will vacate the office in VFK? Regards, Kind V2 Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some people just abuse that privilege!
Anille Kole Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Lemmy Adam Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam Originally by: Anille Kole Originally by: Lemmy Adam .... ... Originally by: Midiana ... ... ... ... umm.. you suck? oh and you all wouldn't complain if we weren't causing distress, so keep eating your losses.. another thing battleclinic shows is 1.5bil in enemy losses to our 400mil in losses.. do the math.. I'm not taking the high road and we're not pirates.. we just don't like you. Erm, you do realize this isn't affecting me, right? I'm not complaining, and would have no reason to, other than the fact that you're acting like a total ***. You said you aren't trying to take the high road....then why are you saying that you only fired defensively, and that the EBIL FLA!!1! was attacking you first? Additionally, your posts are just furthering your pirate image. Not only are you flying with HYDRA, but you're very likely to be doing gatecamps, catching random people, or in your words "causing distress". Add this together with the fact that they just gained a whole bunch of space only a few weeks ago... Oh, and isn't FLA an industry-based alliance? Great of you to be ganking people that aren't dedicated PvPers, I'm sure that couldn't possibly make you look like pirates; waiting in gatecamps with other pirates. Haha, who am I kidding? Of course you're pirates.* I'd appreciate you shutting up until you actually try to counter my arguments. ________________________________ Lovable alt. <3
Idunyken Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:16:00 - [51] Edited by: Idunyken on 09/08/2006 12:16:23 Go lynx! \o/ @at the people who seem to be arguing with a non-entity: didn't I hear CCP telling us all to ignore the alts and let them be cleaned? @Dangerous: You are very correct that the north would benefiet from corps such as Lynx, GTU etc. I just don't see any benefiet in us staying in the north. Too much hassle for no real benefiet. We've had better morale and more fun than we've had for a long time since leaving the north and I hope Lynx can find the same . "Do not weep for us, or fear the path that we've chosen" Past history is irrelevent to me now. Truthfully. If D-F-C was to stay in the north now we would only stagnate and lose people and morale. The people we would see as blue would only remind us of past greiviences and pointless hostility. I can see others feeling exactly the same way. "What we do now, we do for the survival of our species. We will rescue us from ourselves" See you all in space. (Kudos to CCP for the vid which is the source of the quotes above. And Kudos to the voice actor for putting the feel of it across so well)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:16:00 - [52] Originally by: Lemmy Adam umm.. you suck? oh and you all wouldn't complain if we weren't causing distress, so keep eating your losses.. another thing battleclinic shows is 1.5bil in enemy losses to our 400mil in losses.. do the math.. I'm not taking the high road and we're not pirates.. we just don't like you. It's easy to brag about killratio when the rest of your corp is propping you up. I'm sure you really love ESGATO right now We have no problem spending most of our time fighting you. I just wish you guys used less WCS and safespots. 2 points not bring enough to lock down an arbi is kinda sad. The Tech1 equipped raven I can kind of see, but a cruiser? I do have to give props to Mar Vel, Confessor, and one other guy that I can't remember right now for actually fighting. Damn you, Mar Vel, for stealing my pretties Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Idunyken Past history is irrelevent to me now. Truthfully. If D-F-C was to stay in the north now we would only stagnate and lose people and morale. The people we would see as blue would only remind us of past greiviences and pointless hostility. I can see others feeling exactly the same way. This is 100% true. If you spend too much time doing the same thing, you get morale problems and people getting bored. Ya need something to focus on, something other than a roid because, as they say, isk can't buy happiness. Targets buy happiness. It's really great having local targets while the rest of the corp is in carebear mode. It also increases the chances of us getting a fight as there are only 4-5 of us actually focused on fighting right now so we don't get too blobby. I know a lot of people loathe the fact that the north is so unstable at the moment but there are a few corps that thrive off it, and actually need the instability to keep interested. Everything is much more interesting and fun right now and I'm sure lynx and DFC agree Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Idunyken Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:18:00 - [54] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: Idunyken Past history is irrelevent to me now. Truthfully. If D-F-C was to stay in the north now we would only stagnate and lose people and morale. The people we would see as blue would only remind us of past greiviences and pointless hostility. I can see others feeling exactly the same way. This is 100% true. If you spend too much time doing the same thing, you get morale problems and people getting bored. Ya need something to focus on, something other than a roid because, as they say, isk can't buy happiness. Targets buy happiness. It's really great having local targets while the rest of the corp is in carebear mode. It also increases the chances of us getting a fight as there are only 4-5 of us actually focused on fighting right now so we don't get too blobby. I know a lot of people loathe the fact that the north is so unstable at the moment but there are a few corps that thrive off it, and actually need the instability to keep interested. Everything is much more interesting and fun right now and I'm sure lynx and DFC agree /signed Much respect FREEE. Oh and it's 'D-F-C' btw . 'DFC' is the ticker of 'Discount Furniture Corporation' ¼.¼ ...they will pay one day
Zlake Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:49:00 - [55] Edited by: Zlake on 09/08/2006 14:50:22 @anyone who wants to talk about what is and is not pvp: Not all pvp is staying to die if you are outnumbered or outgunned. Only the stupid fight those battles. Safe spots, WCS, Instas, cloaks....these are all tools of pvp....those that use them all to the best of the current situation will win a fight. Staying to get killed has no meaning at all. Just thought I would point that out since people want to talk themselves up and us down. Maybe you should be re-evaluating how you counter us instead of flaming. Just a thought Z edit: /me waves to Idunyken
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.09 15:55:00 - [56] Oh we know how to counter it, we're just too incredibly lazy to get the equipment together to do so up in Fade. We weren't expecting this many targets so close to home so most of our gear is elsewhere. We'll get around to it eventually Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Jandeera Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.09 21:34:00 - [57] isnt pirating where you go shoot people to steal there cargo and look mods for profit? In that context we arent shooting people for the profit.. we dont need isk... were doing it for fun. And i must say... Its alot of fun. See you all in space Forum moderator please close the topic. This post has served its purpose and will only draw flames from this point on. I have issues. I dont deny them.
Azeroth Uluntil Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.09 21:39:00 - [58] Edited by: Azeroth Uluntil on 09/08/2006 21:39:13 Seeing as most of the military is elsewhere, you guys will have to take a back burner for now. As far as I've been told, Lynx has been set hostile to IRON due to their flying and actions with Hydra corporation. Looks like it's been earned. Thanks for providing more targets when I get home. :-) I miss D-F-C! Where is my beigehornet?
Anille Kole Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.09 22:48:00 - [59] Originally by: Jandeera isnt pirating where you go shoot people to steal there cargo and look mods for profit? In that context we arent shooting people for the profit.. we dont need isk... were doing it for fun. And i must say... Its alot of fun. See you all in space Forum moderator please close the topic. This post has served its purpose and will only draw flames from this point on. I really need to laugh at the statement "We aren't pirates, we just kill people because we want to." ________________________________ Lovable alt. <3
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.08.10 12:20:00 - [60] Originally by: Anille Kole I really need to laugh at the statement "We aren't pirates, we just kill people because we want to." You might as well call us pirates as well since we originally started shooting NFC because we wanted to. As far as I see it, Lynx isnt't pirating. They're having fun in a hostile environment. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Mar Drakar Gallente LDK	Posted - 2006.08.10 13:40:00 - [61] Originally by: Varban II Originally by: Mar Drakar what can I say... welcome to the red club of the north :) there are several corps running around dek for quite a while and really having fun, and trust me docking rights are not THAT necesary to live in 0.0 anyway deklein is so deserted these days... you can live and spank whoever you want, and there is noone to stop ya, that is until you hit carearing carrier, but one day those gonna fall too :) IRON and FLA will burn for a long time for what they did. LDK might not be big, but we surely do our best to bite you for good. That means you will vacate the office in VFK? is it still there? ... it should be dispearing sometime soon , so you can start a war about who gets it ;) btw when is iron coming "home" ? -- Make your life worth dying. CEO L.D.K.
BurnYaBad Lynx Frontier Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.11 00:01:00 - [62] Free has been the best at pvping in the north thus far, My kudos to them and thier skills, and Im having lotsa fun :)
Rytir Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.11 02:48:00 - [63] Originally by: Mar Drakar Originally by: Varban II Originally by: Mar Drakar what can I say... welcome to the red club of the north :) there are several corps running around dek for quite a while and really having fun, and trust me docking rights are not THAT necesary to live in 0.0 anyway deklein is so deserted these days... you can live and spank whoever you want, and there is noone to stop ya, that is until you hit carearing carrier, but one day those gonna fall too :) IRON and FLA will burn for a long time for what they did. LDK might not be big, but we surely do our best to bite you for good. That means you will vacate the office in VFK? is it still there? ... it should be dispearing sometime soon , so you can start a war about who gets it ;) btw when is iron coming "home" ? if you havn't noticed we are home! nice amount of stront in your pos. cya in a couple of days Quote: FotoFlame > just shut up and lead fleets, if i want your opinion i'll give you one :)
Mar Drakar Gallente LDK	Posted - 2006.08.11 05:52:00 - [64] sry about a pos... it had to go sometime... im just amazed it took us to make a refuel run until it got spanked :) anyways our guys did not fancy bringing it out, and I think it was quite a good base of operations... you might find some more posses hidden in deklein... be sure to search for them ;] ant stront... well since we all knew this was coming sooner or later... we didnt sell it... and how we aquired it well an error during mining ... wrong ice at least it gets used as apropriate now I guess our nap for moving out expired eh? (j/k) -- Make your life worth dying. CEO L.D.K.
ArmagedonLT Amarr LDK	Posted - 2006.08.19 11:08:00 - [65] welcome to the party Lynx!
Kiyirari	Posted - 2006.09.01 16:01:00 - [66] Aah the fire's in the north are burning brightly once agian, looks like normal day to day life in Deklien the most cursed region in o.0 Revenge is my god and my guns are her angels
B1uedrag0n Immortalis Silens Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.09.29 06:59:00 - [67] Well, it has been some time since i was in Lynx corp. there a gereat group of guys, so i hope there able reach an understanding soon with the northern alliances. its a shame, the golden age of G and IRON are over, and some are left to pick up the peices. the north has been amess for some time now, but it surprises me that LYNX has joined ascn. No matter, GL Katelice...been a while too..
Francis Verdictio BGG Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:15:00 - [68] This is a thread from the last Deklein war, dated pre-NFC or SPARTA collapse. Don't necro old threads, please.
Turq Minmatar GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:26:00 - [69] ^^ Yes Aug 5th 2006 was before the nfc/sparta, Iron/lacky wars. Atleast try and remember when your alliance backstabs people. -sig-
Zlake Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:39:00 - [70] OMG we are so evil
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.03 04:03:00 - [71] Necroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
DANGEROUS Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.03 09:50:00 - [72] god the necro man at work again!!!! Anyhow, when i was recently down south (a favorite hobby of mine) - i was saddened AND happy to run into a large number of addy book folks in local. Lynx guys to be specific. Then i realised they were now hobbits. Now I say this!! - - I am DELIGHTED that Lynx have joined ascn, clearly the north has been like banging their heads against a brick wall. To get teh support of one of the superpowers (shame it wasnt D2) is a win win for Mr hobbit himself - (aforementioned necro man) Lynx should florish imo with his support and fulfill their potential to become all they can be. Sadly clearly i will have to kill them ofcourse - as they will attempt to do with me - BUT i hope it is with a smile of amicability - as it will be for me - when i send - or go to the clone VAT. I also feel that this post allows me to compliment the hobbits. It seems they have finally sorted out how to defend their space from roaming squads / solo gankers. I can only sumise that a certain pilot i know who is a great tacticin is finally helping the hobbit command deploy their forces better than when we (IRON and G) where in azn. It also reflects imo the pride and confidence that the hobbits have generated from their own hard work - i have a large amount of repsect for many of the hobbits as i spend ALOT of time in their space. They are generally respectful and suitably cautious now adays - FINALLY the guns of the many hunters seem to have educated them on how to conduct military affairs. I trully believe that the hobbits now have the capability to seriously bloody the nose of the forth coming BoB raiders, although all will be red to me in the south i would take a BoB target over a hobbit every day of the week. By the way - as a sub note to any fellow roamers like me - - - LV are a SERIOUSLY easy target off in omist. its like npcing with faction fitted (non pvp hardnerd ) - nublars -p PPS - i have been driven to this new hunting area by the resilience of the hobbits at pursuing me out of their space.
BurnYaBad Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:14:00 - [73] Rise, Rise from the dead!
Idunyken Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:31:00 - [74] o/ Dangernoob come raid BoBspace, we'll show you a good time

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